Not wise thinking because IF the Chiefs do that, then they'll go out and lose to the Chargers at Arrowhead or something - Because Chiefs!

As Chiefs fans, we KNOW the deal. ANd the deal is that terrible Bears defeat is a separate "Because Chiefs loss", and won't count as any kind of a demoralizing loss to a suck team, that we can say occurred as a "Because Chiefs equalizer" for beating a good team. Nope, IF they beat Denver in Denver, then a totally separate CRUSHING "Because- Chiefs - loss" to another suck ass team will follow as soon as we start to believe...


Because Chiefs

They'll make the playoffs. They've got momentum on their side, and they're gelling. It just took them a few weeks to get into the groove.

It's going to be interesting with 3 of the next 4 on the road.

@ Broncos / @ Chargers / Bills / @ Raiders
then
Chargers / @ Ravens / Browns / Raiders

All against AFC teams ... 5 within the Division and KC is 1 behind Oakland.

Gotta find your way to a 3-2 record in the division, beat two of the Ravens, Bills and Browns.

That gets you to 9 wins and likely in the dance.

It took them a few weeks of losing to teams over .500 (and the Bears) before getting back to playing backup QBs and teams at/under .500.

We've beaten Hoyer, Landry Jones and the shitty Lions. Playoffs here we come!

You mean JJ Watt, Calvin Johnson, and Ben Roethlisberger.

2 out of 3 right isn't bad.

No. Big Ben did not play...

I think 7-9 is pretty realistic, which would put us around 12-14 in the draft.

We would have to trade into the top 5 for a QB, so the price would be steep.

I'd love to buy this story but I disagree with all of it.

We have a fuddle-butt HC, craptastic O line, a defense that only shows up when you roll the dice the right way, and a QB that can save or sink the game on any given play.

Problem with making the playoffs is the Denver game. Win that one, and 5-2 seems possible. Lose that one, and you're looking at needing to go 6-1.

Given our situation and the bye week, I'm sure Reid is treating preparation for the matchup like it is a playoff game. Win that game, and you've hit the reset button on the season.

Reid having the added pressure of it "being" a playoff game scares me even more.

His pants-$3it-tastic game management is the wild card that worries me most...

Yeah, right

Beating the Broncos would save this season for me.

We are a couple of colossal ****ups away from being 5-3.

We should really, REALLY be 6-2 right now.

What a waste of a potentially awesome season.

I agree and we shouldn't want to anyway. We need lose out for the draft not lose again in the playoffs. Denver is a loss and we may split with SD and Oak at best. Buff should beat us as well.

Despite beating Pitt and Detroit this team still has a pathedic offense and Smith at the helm. That's 9 losses we should get and we should hope for more.

30 for 30

The year of the championship in KC.

:facepalm:

You say some of the dumbest shit I've ever seen on this site.

Just for some perspective on how bad the AFC is, the Raiders lost to the Bears too. They're the 5 seed currently.

They won't lose out. 7-9 is the ceiling for this team and I'm guessing they go 6-10. Anyone that has false hope will lose it when they lose by 2 touchdowns to Denver.

He states this losernonsense all the time. Sorta have to consider the source and ignore him.

He probably never played any other sport than kickball in his life.

If they can get past Denver..........

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Shut the hell up asshole. We need loses not wins and all this playoff talk is useless. This teams needs to make the playoffs for what? Another loss?

Never mind just go away.

So, you root for a team to lose so that they have a little better chance to select a good player in the lottery?

That's just plain ****ing stupid.

Also, the Chargers are dead with all of their injuries. They'll be lucky to win another game. The Chiefs beat them 3 out of the last 4 times they played and had it not been for Succop's misses, it would be 4-4.

Buffalo doesn't have a QB and their defense has regressed, yet you think they'll beat the Chiefs at Arrowhead? Based on what, exactly?

Hoping for losses? Yeah, go **** yourself.

PS: I will reiterate once again that anyone with "Daddy" in his user name is most likely a mouth-breathing Mongo.

Idiotic when you consider the think-tank doing our drafting...

Drafting in the Top 15 puts a lot of pressure on the front office and the player.

We've seen over the years how teams draft in the bottom 15 consistently draft well and those teams have great success, whether it's New England, Denver, Green Bay, Baltimore and even Cincinnati.

Consistently drafting in the Top 15, let alone Top 10 or Top 5, is apropos of nothing.

Other than the fact that the franchise and those running it, suck.

The teams we always come back to (the Pitt's and NE's of the world) do everything right.

They take the crumbs in the draft and make them ROTY. They don't **** up hiring coaches. They don't **** up singing the few FA's they do sign.

They only make trades that benefit them.

Why?

Why?

We, as an organization need to be asking those questions...

They have good QB's..

And less than 10% of drafted QB's turn out. There is no parity in the NFL.

If the Chiefs win their next two games at Denver and at San Diego then I'll buy the playoff talk.

The Steelers have won no less than 1 SB every decade for the last 40 years.
(i might be off on the 90's, It's late and I think they won that last one after 2000.)

The franchises with a long history of winning have an idea of what they are and build around that.

Denver, Pitt, NE, GB, etc...

San Diego swept us in 2013.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm thinking they weren't a good team then...

The Chargers went 9-7 and made the playoffs along with the Chiefs that year. SD beat Cincy in the first round and we lost to the Colts.

Ah, I see why I scrubbed my brain of that year altogether...

That's right. My bad.

You guys know as well as anyone that the Chiefs aren't making the playoffs. The Raiders will beat them down 2x.

I do worry about this but you've gotten very bold in your 1st competitive season in 10 years...

True. In SD however a missed FG and a HORRIBLE call against the Chiefs, with several starters out, did them in.

We have to go 6-2. Pretty simple. Probably will lose to Denver so that means 6-1. The schedule is set up for it but that's a tall order. I'm guessing we finish 8-8

You're the worst ****ing troll. 4th & 48er

All of the resident raider trolls have been. It's laughable

They certainly could do better. They've given up a couple fourth quarter leads.

But in the Bears game they only allowed a net of 11 points. The collapse was shit after Jamaal went out and we missed the field goal, but any offense worth two shits will put up 12 points. I just can't put a defense at fault in a game in which it only allowed 11 points.

And against Denver, the offense and special teams gave them the ball in our territory on three separate occasions. 24 points allowed under those circumstances aren't great by any means, but should have been enough to win the game.

And let's be honest, it was really Jamell Fleming that allowed Manning to march down the field late in that game. If Sean Smith plays that week, you have to imagine we get that W easily, no?

We would have still found a way to lose against Manning. We always have and always will.

How does this actually disagree with ANY of what I said?

I'm talking about 1) talented, 2) finally showing a spark lately, 3) easy schedule ahead.

There's an entirely difference in problem solving when your task is getting a team to;

a) 'run faster, be more powerful, have better instincts, stay healthy'
as opposed to
b) 'get your head out of your ass and play up to your capabilities.'

All that you said could easily be just as much true, even more.

I think we have an outside shot. Wouldn't bet on it though.

Yep. A missed FG and an illegal overloaded line by SD on said missed FG - don't forget that part of it. THEN we got the TERRIBLE call that went against us. The league wanted Rivers in that year and he and the Bolts got in on virtually the last play of the last game of the season. Imagine that...:rolleyes:

I can't stand people who root for us to lose..

100% agree and got your back on this issue

"We're barely over .500 for the first time in 12 years! TIME TO TALK SHIT!"

Well we have had good success against KC when we have been terrible. Oakland fans should be happy. We got a great young core and not just a bunch of retread has beens.

Its a shame that injurys are hurting the best teams. K.C. is one of them.

ROFL

Yup. It's that easy to 'rig' a game in the NFL

One shit call, and it's 'well, **** you Pittsburgh - y'all are staying home and we'll just have to take an "our bad, dawg" on this one...ya gnomesaine?? Sorry. Keep your coach off the field.'

Because you KNOW they have people watching every single call in at the 'command center', right??

And you know, that if they REALLY wanted to get calls correct, that the command center could intervene in cases like the SD game (where officials are majorly blowing calls at the end of the game that directly affect who is allowed to participate in the playoffs)

But they don't care about getting calls 'right', just 'right enough-ish'. If they cared, they would actually enforce rules instead of merely interpreting them.

ROFL no shit

There are some STUPID ****ing people in the world.

To paraphrase Jim Morrison...'a bunch of ****ing idiots.'

Absolutely there is almost total parity in the NFL.

What separates an 'average' team from the good ones is almost always coaching and QB play.

Look at Indy - they were in the AFC Championship Game last year and they have a terrible team.

That's not parity.

In the league today, there are a few really, really, really good teams. And there are a bunch of below average teams. The parity is the worst there's ever been. There could be 3 or 4 teams in the playoffs that are terrible.

Because Chiefs.

What's the difference between the few 'really, really, really good teams' and say, KC??

Coaching and QB play.

We have a really deep roster. We just don't have any way of making that any type of advantage.

I like your style.

I would laugh at this prospect but it isn't worth the effort.

But...you'll post about it??

DAmn right I will.

In this league, you need to be either dominant on defense and efficient on offense (Russell Wilson, Eli), have a QB capable of stringing together a surprise run behind a solid team (Flacco, Kaepernick), or have an elite QB. Alex Smith could be B, but it's not likely.

I'm not rooting for the Chiefs to lose. However, I'm not going to lose draft picks so we can have an outside shot at a playoff game.

You have to view this thing in digestible chunks. Chiefs have 3 wins and with 8 left, you want to find a way to 9 wins.. so you can lose 2 of your remaining 8.

All remaining games AFC games (big with the tiebreakers) and 5 within the division, so you want to go 3-2 in those games worst case. Problem is, of the divisional games 3 are on the road.

KC has to protect their house, means you have to beat the Bills, Chargers, Browns and Raiders - not impossible by any means.

Go 4-0 at home and that means you can give up 2 at either Broncos, Chargers, Raiders or Ravens.

@ Broncos / @ Chargers

Bills / @ Raiders

then
Chargers / @ Ravens

Browns / Raiders

All against AFC teams ... 5 within the Division and KC is 1 behind Oakland.

Gotta find your way to a 3-2 record in the division, beat two of the Ravens, Bills and Browns. I think KC goes 2-2 in the next 4, meaning they will have to win out in the final 4 games. It's a tall task, not sure they can do it, but that's how it lays out.

9 wins isn't going to be good enough this year, IMO

It wasn't last year..,

Usually, that's correct. Chiefs made it on 9-7 in 06.

Shit, in 05 they missed the playoffs at 10-6.

Do you remember what had to happen in order for them to make it in at 9-7 in 06??

Oh, they basically backed in, but they did win to get in and that is all that they could control.

Maybe. Essentially, you need the Colts to fix things and just win their division - reducing the Texans (tied with KC at 3-5) to nothing. You don't need a WC threat coming from this division. Looking at the Jets, Raiders and Steelers - they are the teams keeping you out right now, forget the rest. They each have a slew of tough games, so it's not impossible, but if you are a KC fan hoping for them to rally - you're going to need to follow 4 teams incredibly closely down the stretch, while hoping the Dolphins and Texans flounder.

The Jets and Raiders are both 4-3 and sitting in those final two (non div winner) spots right now.

Then, you have

Steelers, 4-4
Bills, 3-4
Dolphins, 3-4
Chiefs, 4-5
Texans, 3-5

Jets have Jaguars, Bills, @ Texans, Dolphins, @ Giants, Titans, @ Cowboys, Patriots and @ Bills.

Raiders have @ Steelers, Vikings, @ Lions, @ Titans, Chiefs, @ Broncos, Packers, Chargers, @ Chiefs

Steelers have Raiders, Browns, @ Seahawks, Colts, @ Bengals, Broncos, @ Ravens, @ Browns

Raiders are going to get in

Backed in??

They slipped, tripped, stumbled backwards, and fell sideways into that one.

Bernard Pollard doesn't block that punt, and Jax goes to Indy.

They have some big games coming up.

They still did what they had to do to get in, they won. Spin it however you like.

Doesn't matter because they did nothing the following week. I can't even remember who they lost to.

Indy

Trent Green got old the same freaking day as Herm decided to not give LJ his usual 30 carries...

95 - Indy
97 - Den
03 - Indy
06 - Indy
11 - Balt
13 - Indy

Actually, if the pattern holds, then we should actually either back in this year or next year, lose to Indy again, then win the division in 2017 and lose to Buffalo in the AFC title game.

Yeah, and Manning even tried to give us the game early on.

They do but they are a good team this year.

Hell they had Denver on the ropes and that's with 2 missed FG's from Janikowski.

Yeah, that was an ugly game.