I don't necessarily disagree with that, but Verrett, Ingram, and Ramsey would be a really great core on defense. I think they'd have a better chance of being better in the long term with Ramsey, but Tunsil makes them better day 1.

They're not giving up 6 1st and 2d day picks for a LT, especially with no credible QB on the roster.

So my best guess for the top 5 is going to be.....

Rams - Carson Wentz
Browns - Jared Goff
Chargers - Laremy Tunsil
Cowboys - Jalen Ramsey
Jaguars - Myles Jack

Yea that's what I'd say too.

He meant Chargers, not Rams.

Big Ben was picked at #8 and went 15-1 his rookie year. It's not impossible...

That would be stupid. But hey they are the Rams.

You Pats fans. Like there's been any success from these guys when they leave Brady. LMAO

The Rams will receive a 2017 3rd round comp pick for Janoris Jenkins, so this isn't as blight as it might appear on the surface.

If Wentz is Andrew Luck, the Rams win the trade.

1. Wentz
2. Goff
3. Tunsil
4. Elliot/Jalen (leaning Jalen)
5. Jack

BTW Ram's got raped.... Someone call 911

Yea all this talk about the Rams losing this trade is stupid.

If they get themselves a franchise QB to go along with Gurley and a pretty good defense, it'll be worth it.

Lots of talk about Buckner in SD. A former scout just came on the radio (ourlads.com) and claimed that Tunsil isn't even the best LT in the draft and may not be the 1st LT taken.

I think Chargers go defense.

If the QB (presumably, Wentz) becomes a Top Ten QB, it's completely worth the trade.

The Rams needed to make a bold move, especially since they had an extra 2nd round pick this year due to the Bradford trade.

Rams insane trade will only be worth it if the QB they take leads them to to a ring. They must really think that is what will happen.

Agreed.

I think unlike the RG3 trade this one will turn out to be a win for both teams, instead of a loss for both.

It's going to be Goff. Local kid going to new LA team? Shit, the story writes itself.

By local you mean California....right?

Right

The RGIII trade worked ok for the rams, they've apparently built a good defense, but they're starting to lose some guys off it.

I dunno, I'm just not a fan of these deals. The Rams need to rebuild around said qb in 2 years when they have all their picks back

Dude any team that has Jeff Fisher as HC is screwed

Now I don't see where Lynch makes it out of the top 10 picks. I could see either the 49ers or the Eagles taking him for sure now.

It shouldn't have just been "ok". They should've gotten much more with that haul.

They just couldn't get the qb right. Plus the drafting was pretty rams esque so it was pretty meh all round for everyone I suppose.

Same with this, do we really expect Jeff fisher to develop this rookie qb?

And that's the exact problem for teams on the receiving end of "blockbuster" trades: More often than not, the team that traded up is the bigger beneficiary due to talent.

No one ever mentions what the Giants gave up to acquire Eli Manning because they've won 2 Super Bowls. The Chargers received Rivers, Merriman and more and haven't won dick.

Washington's been in the playoffs twice and won the division last years: The Rams haven't had a winning season.

I'm not a Fisher fan but he certainly did well with a young Steve McNair.

That's just a ton of value and cheap players the Rams gave up. The qb they take is gonna have to be pretty good to make up for that and as we've seen, even a guy like rodgers can't carry a roster that far.

Interesting to watch play out

That's exactly why the Rams just traded up. They know they can't do dick with all of those picks.....so they figured they had a better chance of making the right call with just one.

i can easily see some qb needy teams who miss on wentz/goff trying to trade back a bit in the 1st, grab an extra pick or two, and then target lynch, or even cook towards the back end of 1st.

49ers or eagles, maybe jets or bills, or broncos, seize the opportunity to move up a few if they get antsy.

the fact that Jeff Fisher is still there to lead them to mediocrity blows my mind

Loom at this situations though. The talent the skins moved up for, flamed out and the Giants didn't win superbowls until they built a defensive line.

The Chargers haven't win a superbowl with rivers, but they've been pretty successful

That is a pretty rosy assessment of what's happened in DC since the RG3 trade.

Why couldn't this happen in 2013? :(

Because there wasn't a bunch of QBs at the top of the draft.....

In the end, if you can't draft well, it doesn't matter either way.

Uhh, yeah no shit.

So if you're the Rams.....do you take Wentz or Goff?

But floundered with Vince Young.

If they can get over the 7-9 hump, the trade will be well worth it.

While I believe that the draft is an important component to building a roster, the Rams have been drafting well since Snead & Fisher took over and all it's gotten them is 7-9.

Wentz. Love him.

That was because Vince Young sucked

Losing Long and Laurinaitis will hurt their defense some.

Vince Young was forced on Fisher by the owner. Vince had ability but couldn't keep his shit together. I never thought Fisher gave it his all with Young since he didn't want him to begin with.

I take Wentz. 6'5, 235, Plus arm, great mobility, led his team to two straight FCS Championships, while begin a part of five straight championship teams.

The guy is a winner.

Plus I think, for lack of a better term, he's "small town" enough to not get over his head in LA.

I meant Chargers (hence my quote to Staylor).

My bad, yo.

So if they've drafted well, what's the problem there?

BTW Does anyone still think Paxton Lynch is going to make it to 28? The first two quarterbacks will almost certainly be gone by the 3rd pick. Lynch always seemed like a pipe dream.

Chris Long has been injured for years. He's only started 11 games in the past two seasons. The guy is just beat up and worn out. The Rams didn't lose much of anything by releasing him.

They cut Laurinaitis because he's slowed down over the years. His numbers have really dropped off and he's 29 years old. I don't think it'll be much of a loss.

Uh, QB :D

Tennesee can use this opportunity to surround Mariota with a lot of high end talent to ensure his continued success...while also bolstering the defense.

If used correctly, that haul should set them up BIGTIME.

Titans have 6 picks in the top 76 and already have their qb. Good place to be.

If I'm the Titans.....I take one of those 2nd round picks and use my #15 to trade up into the top 10 to get Ronnie Stanley.

If I'm Wentz, I'm getting a place in Manhattan Beach and chillin'. If he wants to get out, he could ride a bike or Uber to Pier Avenue and have a drink now and then.

But he should definitely stay away from Hollywood or Beverly Hills.

Nothing really matters but the QB, though.

If they take Wentz or Goff and that guy is the next star NFL QB, then they could give up 5 years worth of 1st rounders and it's probably still a worthwhile deal.

The Redskins trade wasn't bad because they gave up so much, it was bad because RGIII sucked balls. RGIII controlled the narrative on that trade, not the guys the Rams drafted.

It'll be the same thing here; all that matters is how good their chosen QB is. If he's good, nobody's going to give a shit what the Titans did with their ammo. At worst, it'll be seen as a massive win/win for both squads. And if he sucks, well who gives a shit, the Rams weren't going to win much mired in mediocrity for the next 5 years anyway. Those picks made their team just good enough to not suck and thus not bad enough to ever dig out of the middle.

This is a nice time for a homerun swing from LA, IMO.

Do people in LA really give a shit about someone from the Bay Area? If it were UCLA or USC, I could see the "local" storyline but I doubt people in LA care about a QB from Berkley.

Using my premise that the top 100 picks make most NFL team.

The Rams traded away 6 guys who would probably make the team for one guy?

Bad trade Stan

Keep in mind, the 2012 Rams thought the same thing. QB (Bradford) and lots of picks.

It didn't quite work out.

May need to go top 5.

He just looks like a no-doubter to Baltimore to me. And that's if he doesn't end up passing Tunsill by draft time.

The only problem is that they've invested in Taylor Lewan, who's never played anything but left tackle.

If they go with an LT, I'll bet they move Lewan to another team.

If it works out and they have their QB locked up for the next decade, it's worth every penny.

Yeah but without that 1 guy, you know a quality QB, those other 6 players would be mediocre in terms of team success.

Fisher won't be around long I'm hearing...

Stan is sold on someone. Wentz I'm hearing

I expect him to be gone before moving to Inglewood in 2019 but surely, it's too late into the league year to fire him now...?

The titans already have some good pieces on offense for mariota. The Rams never did dick on that side of the ball.

It's why I'm not using the Rams as an indicator this won't work out. They've been ****ing awful at just about everything

Because we really wanted that franchise left tackle!

The qb just has to be so good to make up for the loss of talent. Look at the best qbs around the league. You just can't do it alone.

Nah, just a philosophy shift. He's pushing his chips in and it's probably a good idea.

That team, as presently constructed, is going stale quickly. And sure, those 6 guys might even yield a couple of pretty significant contributors ('make the team' ain't exactly a high bar). But they'd probably still be capped at a 10 win team and a one and done with their QB situation.

So Stan's essentially saying - "fine, we're going all in on Wentz/Goff and if it doesn't work, we'll suck for 4 years, probably be drafting top 3 again and start over."

It's a hell of a lot better than spinning your wheels for 4 years and sitting there in 2020 with your brand new stadium being 1/2 full wondering what the hell you're going to do drafting 14 again.

This draft sucks ass on offense for the most part after the first 10 picks. The Rams wouldn't have had any great prospects at 15 anyway.

Their entire OL is 2nd and 3rd year guys that they already drafted and are high on. They have an elite pass rush and a good defense overall.

They needed this so bad and I think this will get them in the playoffs.

The league is in transition from the great qb play of the past decade. Look around the league. I think we're seeing these teams figure out or start to understand the likelihood of having a HoF guy under center is really tough to get.

Even with a great qb, you've gotta build a great roster around him. That's gonna be tough with that few picks in the sort term but if it works, they can rebuild ut in 2 years around him.

Eh, it took Ryan Grigson being shitty at his job for 5 years to drive the Colts this far down. When it was just a year or two of him not giving Luck anything to work with, Luck was still able to win games.

If the Rams use their remaining picks well over the next couple of years, it won't cripple them going forward. And when they get their full allotment back it'll be right about the time the rook QB is ready to really hit the accelerator anyway. They'll be fine if this kid is good. The lack of draft picks won't be what hurts them; missing on the QB will be what does it.

It just makes the margins tougher. Gotta pay miney for players instead of the cheap picks.

For the rams at this point it makes sense though I guess.

Also gotta think once said qb really hits his stride and is ready to go, it'll be time to pay him and that's when they'll be getting picks back and loaded.

I'm just not a fan of ever trading up that much. Just my preference.

Yeah, I mean, they had to fear the Chargers fan base, right ?

Exactly.

And as I mentioned earlier, look at the division: The 49ers don't have a QB and the Rams just jumped them in order to get the best guy in the draft. The Cards are hanging on by a string with a 36 year old Carson Palmer and at #31, there's no chance they get a blue chip QB.

Also, the Rams defense has gotten the better of the Seahawks in the past few seasons, which puts the Rams in a position to be the best team in the division for years to come if Wentz is who they think he is.

Well, the thing to keep in mind is that not every 1st, 2nd or 3rd round pick is going to be "money". There's a 50% or more bust rate with players chosen in those rounds so if they give up 3 legit starters to get a Franchise QB, it's well worth it.

Again, I'm all for building a team in the draft but without the QB, it becomes a negative return at some point, which the Rams have reached, IMO.

If the Chiefs were a perpetual 7-9 team without a Franchise QB, who here wouldn't give up Dee Ford, Philip Gaines and De'Anthony Thomas (2014 picks) along with Marcus Peters, Mitch Morse and Chris Conley (2015) for a Franchise QB?

I'd do it in a heartbeat.

It's a big boy league.

Sure, we'd all love to get HoFers in the 5th round but that doesn't really happen. Everything in this league comes at some sacrifice and the Rams have chosen to make theirs to give themselves their best shot at securing the thing that has held them back since Warner left.

"Making things harder" isn't really an argument I buy - this league is hard to win in, period. This doesn't make it harder at all if Wentz/Goff turns out the be the force multiplier at QB that the Rams think he'll be.

And if he isn't, they just blow it up and start over, which is probably easier than trying to slowly drag yourself out of the middle of the pack.

But are they gonna get the next Peyton Manning?
Or are they gonna get the next Ryan Leaf?

No pressure

LMAO!!! This shit is crazy... Look I think Wentz is going to be good. But, NOW because this trade went down I have seen a few stories pop up about how this kids is going to be the next Tom Brady/Andrew Luck......

FFS 3 months ago no one knew he existed....

I don't know why you'd give up that much for those QB prospects, and with as much as they gave up, they're going to play the guy immediately. Neither one is ready.

Whomever they take (and I think it'll be Wentz) will spend the season handing off the ball to Gurley while throwing some play action passes now and then.

They'll be a team similar to the Chiefs and last year's Broncos: Conservative QB play with a strong running game and defense.

Keep in mind, the Rams had the #32 passing game and #29 overall offense and still went 7-9.

They needed to make this move.