Why? That type doesn't fit in this offense or Alex Smiths capabilities.

You must not know Andy Reid offense very well then...... And Alex Smith does have a deep ball, suggest you watch the touch down to Avery Vs. the Colts in the playoff game.

The defense will not be as good, too. Alex will have to throw more to lead us from behind. He'll have 4000 yards and 30 TDs at LEAST. This will be the year of the glorious Chiefs passing game. The stars are aligned.

this kind of phrasing definitely smells claynusy.

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I think it is you that doesn't know Alex Smith and his completion percentages for deep passes nor do I think you know the percentages of plays that we actually have thrown deep.
This is not the Donovan McNabb, Andy Reid offense that was used in Philly.

Look here to see the actual stats.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/qbs...eep-passing-2/

Alex is definitely improving as a deep ball thrower.

In 2014, he only threw 18 passes that traveled 21 yards in the air or more.

In 2015, that number went all the way up to 32...nearly double.

With the additions at receiver both in FA and the draft, I expect that number to get close to 40 in 2016.

Maybe a little more, depending how how defenses play us when Hill and Robinson get on the field.

Right.... But we haven't had a reliable deep threat either (Hands and Speed)......

Cmon with that nonsense. That's an article from 2014 and Alex was a different player last year.

Look at who he was throwing to in 2014.

Donnie Avery
Dwayne Bowe
AJ Jenkins
Frankie Hammond

I mean the ONLY guy we had at receiver in 2014 that even deserves to be on an NFL roster was Albert Wilson.

Everybody else is washed out, now.

It is not non sense. It is pretty easy to add one year in there. Not to mention that was also meant to show Bleeding that the offense we run here doesn't throw deep since he was telling me I didn't know the offense we have been using.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...S/SmitAl03.htm

You can look at his entire career and tell that he has almost always had a low average per attempt.

Gotta love it.

I am not trying to bash Alex. He is what he is and this is the longest he has ever been with one coach and system. It isn't like the dude has a long way to go to be able to make a bigger difference. If there was ever a true chance for that to happen it is here with Andy Reid.
No we have not had a real deep threat nor has it ever seemed that Reid has been pushing Alex beyond his comfort zone either with the deep pass.

The claim that this offense doesn't throw deep isn't accurate, either.

IN 2008, Donovan McNabb threw 62 passes that traveled 21+ yards in the air.

In 2014, Alex only threw 18 and that number jumped to 32 last year.

Just a shade over half the amount of agressive passes that got attempted when Reid had a QB that made that a part of his game and had the players out wide to get those passes to.

IMO Dorsey made some decent moves to try to improve the WRs the last 2 off seasons ...Conley, Streater, Williams, Hill, Robinson, Maclin...

As that talent learns how to get open more and more, the more you will see that number rise for Alex Smith.

As I said, I expect that number to get to 40 next year.

No excuses.

That's bull, too.

Sorry.

Alex had to learn a new offense every single year he was in SF until Harbaugh got there and most of those coaching staffs got fired because they were total trash. That has a lot to do with it.

Look at his YPA in that second year under Harbaugh...8.1....pretty damn good. Especially when you factor in that he was completing 70% of his throws that year.

Not far off from last years 7.6...

Also notice that Alex's YPA has dramatically increased each year in KC....while his comp% has also gone up.

6.8 at 60% in 2013
7.2 at 64% in 2014
7.6 at 65% in 2015

And his receivers in 2016 will have more explosiveness and ability to get open than in any of those other years in KC.

Also factor in that the offensive line will be vastly improved, as well.

Now.

I understand that most here want to hate Alex because no matter what, he's always gonna be "another backup QB KC traded for" and that he will never be "our guy" in KC because of such, but the guy is gonna have another big jump in productivity and effectiveness in 2016 and some of you should probably try to....

You know....

Enjoy it.

Maybe they morph the offense some more, but up this point Andy Reid has not used the same offense here as he used in Philly. Yes there are multiple reasons but it is not the same offense here yet if ever.

I don't hate Alex never have never will.
YPA does not correlate with passes over 30 yards. This conversation started over the deep pass that starts at 30 yards. You are twisting some stats there.

That's only partly due to Alex, though.

In Philly, the Eagles had a number of WRs there for a fairly long time that knew the system and didn't need to start from square one each year like has been the case in KC.

Just listen to Alex talking about exactly that.

Reid's offense is the same as its been for quite some time and he has the largest playbook in the league...very tough to learn. That's why the continuity Alex talks about in this is so important and why it's silly to dismiss it.

The backs know the offense.
The OL (except Schwartz and the rook) knows the offense
3 of the top WRs know the offense
The QBs know the offense (even Hogan, according to Reid)

Alex and the offense should be able to "hit the ground running" in 2016 and use the new guys as wrinkles in the offense they can add gradually...by years end I expect a really really fun offense to watch.

Outside of maybe 4 QBs, nobody consistently threw 30 or 40 yards bombs consistently last year.

who knows....with all the firepower at RB and the improved line, maybe those attempts even go up more than I think because of teams respect for the ground game.

Sorry for picking on you CR. I guess I'm just trying to make a point that I see Alex having an equal jump in production and effectiveness in 2016 and am trying to illustrate the signs that back up that assumption with what is going on and what has happened the last 3 years leading up to this point.

Using the 2014 numbers we threw 2.5% of the time which ranked us dead last. While the NFL average was 6.5%. The most was just over 10%. This were all in that 21 to 30 yard range that you were talking about.
If we doubled our throws in 2015 we would be some where around the 5% area. Maybe with the additions we have made and the time in the system we will improve to that average area. That would be absolutely fine with me as well. I do not want one of those offenses that throws deep continually. I favor the defensive game plan. I do wish that Alex had a better mid to deep game. It has been improving. I have always thought and said on here that he is good enough to get us there. He is just not going to be the QB that throws it all over down the field. He is going to play complementary football to the entire team to make the team as successful as he possibly can.

You are not picking on me. We are discussing, nicely, slight differences. You just think I hate Alex because that was the mantra around here for a long time.

If Smith can trust his Oline and his receivers this year it will be a first.

If we have more than 1 WR that can really make things happen it will be the first time since all the way back to Paige and Carson.

just run a smooth offense and the crowd will back you

alex is going to kill it this year

I might be thinking of someone else but doesn't Alex's deeper passes "float" some..it seems they stay in the air longer than normal

Actually Smith has been throwing line drives lately.


maybe it's to compensate for less arm strength or maybe he's not accurate enough to drop it in a bucket.

We probably don't practice it enough either.

Actually he doesn't do a real good job of putting arc or air under the ball.

He throws most of his Deep balls line drive style

I must be thinking of someone else then..I thought I remembered him throwing deep and the receiver had to slow way up

I'm sure he's thrown a few of those , but you might be thinking more of Cassel?

I will admit, I am looking forward to watching Alex Smith as the Chiefs Qb this year.

Really nice to see the change in many CP thoughts over these last three years.

GO CHIEFS :)

Alex has always been a winner I'm surprised there are fans that don't like him.

That might be who I am thinking of

Sarcastic Clay.

i've watched alex more than prob 99% of this board and it's games like he has vs the packers that make him just irritatingly disgusting to watch. But the games where he uses his legs, he pics the right read to beat the blitz, he calls smart audibles to help with the run game.. he strikes intermediate routes smoothly.. that's a very enjoyable alex to watch.i Dont think he'll ever have the long ball accuracy consistency due to his arm injury. if you watch his college tape, he actually has some decent zip on the throws.

I think the install malfunctioned and has a virus.

No. They installed NetZero.

ROFL:clap:
Nailed it!

Nostraclaynus!

How does the offensive strategy look different this year again?

Joel Thorman should re-interview Alex and ask him to elaborate.

We're rarely going to light up the sky with Smith, we all know that

But the biggest problem this year is Reid calling the plays IMO, Smith and the offense in general didnt look HALF this bad last year when Pederson was making the calls

If we were 8 games into the season I would consider hitting the panic button but we are going into a bye week sitting at 2-2 after losing that's right, 2 games to division leaders. And just one of those games was a complete mess that got out of hand because of 2 uncharacteristic turnovers in 3 drives.

We literally have 12 games remaining on the season...

Clay clearly didn't learn anything from last season where we started 1-5 and he proclaimed Smith was done as the starting QB

Sorry, we're not playing a bunch of shit quarterbacks this year.

Smith can't even run anymore. He has 16 rushing yards this year.

He's DONE, skippy. As a player, as the Chiefs pathetically laughable savior, as your lover.

DONE.

http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/im...630&h=420&q=75

how did our O line get worse?

We need Demonpenz to come in and illustrate in MS Paint all the flaws in our current offensive playcalling.

The problem with your glass being half-full all the time, is that it's full of piss and runny shit.

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ROFL

Smith has been a bit tunnel-visioned this year so far. Seeing quite a few plays left on the field with bad reads.

ROFLROFL:clap::clap:

LMAO

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I've always maintained that Alex Smith makes offensive lines worse.

He's been sacked nearly three times a game on average over the last six seasons and nothing much changes year to year, apart from 2013, when he was sacked *only* 39 times.

I've maintained for awhile now 2013 was the best year of his career and he'll never be any better.

The decline in his rushing yards this year has led to a severe uptick in sacks. I think he's physically declining.

I agree. Going back a few years, our offensive line looked horrible with Cassel. Cassel goes down, Orton comes in, and the same O-line suddenly looked like a real NFL O-line.

Alex rolls out into the arc the OTs are trying to ride defenders around the pocket in, and gets sacked as a result, more than any QB I've ever seen outside of David Carr.

The guy lacks the ability to step up into the pocket while keeping his eyes downfield.

I have to say :clap: ROFL

Alex Hates Pocket.

Would be a pretty cool shirt, no?

God dammit. I hadn't even seen this play until now. This sack is 100% on the QB.

http://i.imgur.com/okV2Wqu.gif

LMAO hadn't seen the next snap either....chance to get a first down on a free play and he blows it LMAO

http://i.imgur.com/C5LcL1E.gif

Best part is if he steps up into that pocket, Maclin has a 1v1 over the top probably for a TD.

Explain yourself. It was a poorly designed play. Who was he supposed to throw the ball to? I guess he could have thrown it OOB, but there wasn't a play to be made there.

LMAO I missed the entire first possession basically and wow, run out of what would have been a perfectly good pocket you scared pussy

http://i.imgur.com/kFf9nsb.gif

And looking at the all 22, Conley was wide open. Hysterical.

http://i.imgur.com/MOafs9X.jpg

Gee, ya think?

Ever wonder why he's been sacked nearly 3 times a game on average over the last six years no matter the OL?

Now look what a real QB does. None of these receivers are Alex Smith open and yet he's firing away.

http://i.imgur.com/j7DJxa9.jpg

I hope Dane and all the other people flaming on Schwartz look at that gif and realize that it's Alex causing most of the sacks/pressures.

He just runs right into a pressure when Schwartz keeps the DL out of he pocket.

Maclin wide open at the 40, abandon pocket, shit pants, abandon hope all ye who enter here.

http://i.imgur.com/7pzIcIy.gif

Leave it to Alex to attempt the more difficult throw to Ware when Kelce is wide open. LMAO Good try buddy. LMAO

http://i.imgur.com/qyD6bJG.jpg

What the hell is this guy doing. Faux Tony Gonzalez is WIDE OPEN and he checks it down to Reek for a yard. ****'s sake.

http://i.imgur.com/aELcTGr.gif

Remember THIS play.

http://i.imgur.com/zef2Vyf.gif

LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO

http://i.imgur.com/PjdrE7c.jpg

That makes me sad, and angry. Why the **** is this guy still starting?

Some of those you are exaggerating on how open they were. That last picture is bad though.

Love the gifs. Really exposes this mediocre QB for what he is. He leaves so many points on the field it is ridiculous. Tired of being fooled by his occasional ballsy game. The only hope is that D and special teams carries his ass. Other than that, we are stuck on the treadmill with this QB. Same old shit for the last 47 years. Montana is the only QB I had confidence in since I have been watching the Chiefs and he was past his prime. The only other time was when Vermeil was here but that team wasn't even close to being balanced. Just a little D and we win SB that year. That's it, all other QBs in KC have been shit and this is why we always fall short. Marty era had mediocre QBs sans Montana. We are going to waste an explosive offense with this BUM and miss a SB window...............AGAIN!


**** the Walrus is he doesn't have the balls to bench Alexis yet once benched McNabb, who was BETTER BY FAR than Alexis. Bullshit! How can you sit back and watch this offense not score points and NOT make a change to see if we can get a spark. You don't run your offense to protect your QBs FEELINGS. **** HIS FEELINGS!!!!!

No, he's really not. In every gif there is at least one guy, if not two running wide open.

Not NFL open, where you might have to throw the WR open, - but wide ****ing open.

Was anyone "open" on that still shot of the bomb to Coates?

Chiefs are 23rd in yds/play (5.1) and 29th in yds/pass (6.4).

During last year of Cassel era, we were 27th (5.0) and 30th (6.2).

LMAO

Jesus thats truly sad...

Pathetic. **** this bullshit. Why was he even in the game in a 42 point blowout? I don't want to hear that the offense needed the reps. This is ****ING YEAR FOUR of being in the Walrus's system. They are so ****ing scared of a QB controversy. Why the **** did you even pick up Foles then? A player who had a lot of success and made a pro bowl playing for the Walrus? Hey Walrus, shove your "It's on me, I need to do better" speeches up your fat ass. You picked up Foles for a reason, USE HIM!!!


At least I have seen the D play better more than I have seen Alex. Those gigs prove that you can't just blindly blame the line. **** ALEX AND THE WALRUS until he grows the BALLS to make a change. Its not fair to all of the explosive talent we have on offense. **** YOU ALEXIS!!! and **** YOU REID for not benching this scrub oh, but you had the balls to bench McNabb.

So we are better.




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Nice rant. Would read again