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HemiEd 09-28-2016 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 12454291)
You'll find A LOT of that in this area. I've learned in the six years I've been here that hardly anyone is native. The people that grow up here move to big cities and are replaced by people who are retiring from Big cities.

I had forgotten about that part of this thread Mike. That makes a lot of sense as we know very few natives to the area. Are you going to be sticking around?

Since that post, I did spend the money with a lawyer and put him in his place. He came over here blowing and going one day and I finally had enough. I am starting to think he has dementia.

Other than that, it has been a great summer with lots of long boating trips. Our favorite is to go to Coyotes in Kimberling City. :D

Mr. Flopnuts 09-28-2016 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 12454322)
I had forgotten about that part of this thread Mike. That makes a lot of sense as we know very few natives to the area. Are you going to be sticking around?

Since that post, I did spend the money with a lawyer and put him in his place. He came over here blowing and going one day and I finally had enough. I am starting to think he has dementia.

Other than that, it has been a great summer with lots of long boating trips. Our favorite is to go to Coyotes in Kimberling City. :D

It's funny that you mention that. I've actually learned a lot more about the industry I work and have moved into the arena of helping people out of those things, rather than get them in. That said, it requires traveling, and the wife and I are talking about leaving. I'm hesitant to say that we will. I love it here. The cost of living, the beauty of the area. Living right on Table Rock is a tough thing to just say "Welp, don't want this anymore!" too. I think we'll hang out for a while longer, but eventually if the wife keeps pestering me about it, she'll win.

You have regular nights you go to Coyotes? I may have to show up one night if you do.

rtmike 09-28-2016 01:54 PM

Right on, great thread.

Years back my wife would have problems carrying. We lost 4 in 8 years of trying to conceive. It seems the Dad is always forgotten with miscarriages so I was talking to someone about it & they mentioned planting trees for each in rememberance.

So I planted a Hemlock, Douglas & 2 maples in back as my extended family.

In the front yard our neighbor has a good sized Maple that was planted originally. Well on our side I'll get little shoots from the Maple that sprout up. So far one's up to over 6' & there's about 4 other ones in various sizes. It's cool cause when I start them out, they're only about an inch tall.
I plan on planting the biggest Maple up closer by our house since the main area of the house gets full sun in the summer.

A trip out into the private forest can find yourself several of the evergreen variety.
That's where my Hemlock & Douglas came from. I never realized it but those Douglas firs grow fast. Mine's already about 55'-70' tall and it covers the neighbors back yard living area year round view.

Also out in our front yard I found a rock out @ the in laws. It's sort of a center piece in our front yard & I've planted little moss around the north side of it. The moss has spread like crazy. It puts out these little white flowers, look like sunflowers.
I've also put in strawberries all along the walkway.
Last year I germinated some sunflower seeds for the neighbors so they could have a touch of Kansas in their yards, lol.

I really enjoy planting things. It really bums me out if something dies.
Also, the last couple years I've been growing cannabis hydroponically. Nothing currently, I have a couple in 5 gallon buckets of dirt, they're about ready.

We have a deck that's about 4-5' off the ground in back so unfortunately it gives us views of all our neighbors. I've gotten just about all of them out of view though with strategically placed trees.

rtmike 09-28-2016 02:16 PM

Those Japanese beetles played hell on our arborvitae's the past 2 summers before this one.
We had a couple mini heat waves so they're saying the beetles had to burrow deeper to escape the heat basically ruining whatever they were in.



Also, when I planted the Maple in back my neighbor was having some fencework done so I asked him to bribe one of the workers to bore down with their fence post digger where I was planting. I didn't even really dig a hole, just sat the base of it on top of those holes & mounded it.
Up here it's best to mound them since where we're at the soil is full of clay. PUt it this way, when I put in sprinklers I had to use a pic ax to dig the trenches. Broke about 3-4 of the skinny little shovels before giving up.

My wife & I planted 6 of the arbies, short, tall, short, tall..... We built one long ditch (hole) for them thinking we were doing the right thing since there wouldn't be any sitting water with any one treee. Well, there's only one left. Should have have mounded them more. The one left is on the farthest low end.

HemiEd 09-28-2016 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 12454473)
It's funny that you mention that. I've actually learned a lot more about the industry I work and have moved into the arena of helping people out of those things, rather than get them in. That said, it requires traveling, and the wife and I are talking about leaving. I'm hesitant to say that we will. I love it here. The cost of living, the beauty of the area. Living right on Table Rock is a tough thing to just say "Welp, don't want this anymore!" too. I think we'll hang out for a while longer, but eventually if the wife keeps pestering me about it, she'll win.

You have regular nights you go to Coyotes? I may have to show up one night if you do.

All of those things are very nice and we have a tendency to take them for granted. When we have visitors, they constantly remind us of the beauty.

Glad to hear you have switched to helping people out of the time shares. I am sure that is a great opportunity. As you know, we tried like heck to get my Dad out of his and dying turned out to be the only way.

We usually just go to Coyotes when we take a boat ride down there. I am not sure if they are on reduced hours since labor day, but will check. It is about a 45 minute boat ride, which makes for a nice trip. We also go to Cape Fair Marina, that now has a satellite branch of Flat Creek restaurant in it and is also pretty good. On occasion we go to the main Flat Creek, but I don't like taking the boat in there as it is pretty shallow. Their food is great as long as you like fried food!


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Originally Posted by rtmike (Post 12454542)
Right on, great thread.

Years back my wife would have problems carrying. We lost 4 in 8 years of trying to conceive. It seems the Dad is always forgotten with miscarriages so I was talking to someone about it & they mentioned planting trees for each in rememberance.

So I planted a Hemlock, Douglas & 2 maples in back as my extended family.

In the front yard our neighbor has a good sized Maple that was planted originally. Well on our side I'll get little shoots from the Maple that sprout up. So far one's up to over 6' & there's about 4 other ones in various sizes. It's cool cause when I start them out, they're only about an inch tall.
I plan on planting the biggest Maple up closer by our house since the main area of the house gets full sun in the summer.

A trip out into the private forest can find yourself several of the evergreen variety.
That's where my Hemlock & Douglas came from. I never realized it but those Douglas firs grow fast. Mine's already about 55'-70' tall and it covers the neighbors back yard living area year round view.

Also out in our front yard I found a rock out @ the in laws. It's sort of a center piece in our front yard & I've planted little moss around the north side of it. The moss has spread like crazy. It puts out these little white flowers, look like sunflowers.
I've also put in strawberries all along the walkway.
Last year I germinated some sunflower seeds for the neighbors so they could have a touch of Kansas in their yards, lol.

I really enjoy planting things. It really bums me out if something dies.
Also, the last couple years I've been growing cannabis hydroponically. Nothing currently, I have a couple in 5 gallon buckets of dirt, they're about ready.

We have a deck that's about 4-5' off the ground in back so unfortunately it gives us views of all our neighbors. I've gotten just about all of them out of view though with strategically placed trees.

Wow, I am so sorry to hear about the miscarriages, damn.

Sounds like you have really done a great job of planting though!

Where are you located? It really is a bummer when something dies, especially when you have worked on it for a couple of years!

Mr. Flopnuts 09-28-2016 03:08 PM

Did your Dad pass? Getting people out legally has only come about in the last few years. I didn't even know it existed until 2-3 years ago. I'm sorry to hear if he's passed.

I really didn't know how bad the things were until recently. They didn't use to be. Corporate greed changed that in the last decade or so.

SAUTO 09-28-2016 04:56 PM

It would damn near kill me to actually live in a bigger city anymore.

And I was hood as hood gets when I got here.

A weekend or week at the most and I'm ready to be back in the country. I can hit gravel and drive over a hundred miles and only even drive on blacktop a couple times. It's awesome, we will just start driving and see where we can end up by seeing a turn and taking it. I buy tons of cars and other stuff that way. Plus the cell phones don't work most of the time, it's a great way to spend time with your kids talking and being silly and stuff with no distractions. We stop and look at interesting stuff, talk to old farmers running their equipment places on the road, trees, animals.

Wouldn't trade that for anything

lewdog 09-28-2016 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 12454282)
I lost the apple tree and two of the Colorado Blue Spruce. Second apple that died, so I am done with them. Replaced the apple with a Pear tree and put in three large Austrian pines and two pretty good sized Crepe Myrtle trees. :D

Crepe Myrtle trees are beautiful! I want one but have no where to put it. :D

When that thing starts blooming, show us some pictures.

SAUTO 09-28-2016 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12454896)
Crepe Myrtle trees are beautiful! I want one but have no where to put it. :D

When that thing starts blooming, show us some pictures.

I've got two little ones my mom planted last year. Thought they had croaked but they are coming back

lewdog 09-28-2016 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12454904)
I've got two little ones my mom planted last year. Thought they had croaked but they are coming back

I think they can grow as a bush or a tree if trained properly?

This one could go either way.

http://www.whatgrowsthere.com/grow/w...8/IMG_8166.jpg

2112 09-28-2016 05:39 PM

If you're looking for privacy lol I bought these Lombardi poplars bare rooted from a catalog about 12-18 inches high. In about 5 years they were 45-50 ft high lol they don't grow out, just up. They drop their leaves in the winter though

cosmo20002 09-28-2016 05:56 PM

Didn't plant it, but I have one, and it can **** off.
http://m1.i.pbase.com/u47/hjsteed/la....040922009.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IZ0Se6kaM8...w%2Blocust.jpg

Sorter 09-28-2016 06:18 PM

Anyone ever have any luck with Aspen trees in MO?

2112 09-28-2016 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 12454959)

Honey locust seed pods. Sucks to be you. Cut it down.

HemiEd 09-29-2016 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 12454722)
Did your Dad pass? Getting people out legally has only come about in the last few years. I didn't even know it existed until 2-3 years ago. I'm sorry to hear if he's passed.

I really didn't know how bad the things were until recently. They didn't use to be. Corporate greed changed that in the last decade or so.

Yeah, June 1 of 2014 a month before I retired. I guess the time share got him for close to 100k before it was all said and done. I kept trying to get him to just tell them to go **** themselves and quit paying them like I did on the one my wife got roped into for 10 years, but he wouldn't do it.

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12454896)
Crepe Myrtle trees are beautiful! I want one but have no where to put it. :D

When that thing starts blooming, show us some pictures.

Will do. The Crepe Myrtle bushes were attacked by the Japanese beetles as well, but at the end of the summer once the beetles were done they were very pretty. My wife is from Virginia Beach and they are very common back there.

HemiEd 09-29-2016 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by D2112 (Post 12454938)
If you're looking for privacy lol I bought these Lombardi poplars bare rooted from a catalog about 12-18 inches high. In about 5 years they were 45-50 ft high lol they don't grow out, just up. They drop their leaves in the winter though

That is exactly what I planted. i am going to order some more as only about half survived the summer. My weedeater is responsible for several of their demise.

Mr. Flopnuts 09-29-2016 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 12456061)
Yeah, June 1 of 2014 a month before I retired. I guess the time share got him for close to 100k before it was all said and done. I kept trying to get him to just tell them to go **** themselves and quit paying them like I did on the one my wife got roped into for 10 years, but he wouldn't do it.

A good salesman can make 6 figures selling a lot of different things. I was ready to transition out of the industry. Honestly, I think I could make more money selling other things, but helping people get out of those things is kind of soul soothing for me. For the reason you just listed about your Dad. That's an insane amount of money. I'm sorry to hear he passed. Losing a parent is one of the worst things I've ever gone through.

Nickhead 09-29-2016 02:42 PM

Bumble Bee Set to Become Officially Endangered

http://www.seeker.com/bumble-bee-set...021384898.html

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The rusty patched bumble bee - the workers of which can be identified by a small rust-colored mark on the middle of their second abdominal segment - was historically widespread along the east coast of North America, from Quebec down to Georgia, and across much of the midwest as far west as the Dakotas. However, says USFWS, since the late 1990s, the species' numbers have decreased precipitously, and its range is now a mere 8 percent of its historical extent.

2112 09-29-2016 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 12456061)
Yeah, June 1 of 2014 a month before I retired. I guess the time share got him for close to 100k before it was all said and done. I kept trying to get him to just tell them to go **** themselves and quit paying them like I did on the one my wife got roped into for 10 years, but he wouldn't do it.


Will do. The Crepe Myrtle bushes were attacked by the Japanese beetles as well, but at the end of the summer once the beetles were done they were very pretty. My wife is from Virginia Beach and they are very common back there.

The jap beetles will eat the Lombardi poplars too. You can do root injection with merit on them in April. It's got a 4 month residual. And whatever you do don't use that bag a bug shit. You'll be attracting jap beetles from all over the place, and it only attracts the males. The females are the ones that do the damage.

HemiEd 09-29-2016 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by D2112 (Post 12456129)
The jap beetles will eat the Lombardi poplars too. You can do root injection with merit on them in April. It's got a 4 month residual. And whatever you do don't use that bag a bug shit. You'll be attracting jap beetles from all over the place, and it only attracts the males. The females are the ones that do the damage.

There is so much stuff around here that they didn't bother the poplars.:D

I was out there smashing those bugs between my fingers, they had me so pissed off.

Nothing that I tried touched them, fruit tree spray, Miathilion, seven, etc.

But I just heard this week exactly what you said. Both about the bag and systemic additive to the soil. I want to investigate further if the soil additive will foul the fruit.

I can't tell you how much I have enjoyed the figs and look forward to peaches, pears and plums next year!

2112 09-29-2016 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 12456381)
There is so much stuff around here that they didn't bother the poplars.:D

I was out there smashing those bugs between my fingers, they had me so pissed off.

Nothing that I tried touched them, fruit tree spray, Miathilion, seven, etc.

But I just heard this week exactly what you said. Both about the bag and systemic additive to the soil. I want to investigate further if the soil additive will foul the fruit.

I can't tell you how much I have enjoyed the figs and look forward to peaches, pears and plums next year!

Jap beetles are the adult larvae of grubs. So if you have grub damage in your lawn that's next years crop of jap beetles. If you apply merit to the lawn in early June it will kill them. They usually fly out of the ground around 4th of July. You have to break the cycle, the beetles lay their eggs in the grass in the same spot they came out of. They burrow down and come up to feed in august September. Which is when you see grub damage.

HemiEd 09-29-2016 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by D2112 (Post 12456392)
Jap beetles are the adult larvae of grubs. So if you have grub damage in your lawn that's next years crop of jap beetles. If you apply merit to the lawn in early June it will kill them. They usually fly out of the ground around 4th of July. You have to break the cycle, the beetles lay their eggs in the grass in the same spot they came out of. They burrow down and come up to feed in august September. Which is when you see grub damage.

Wow, ok, thanks. The timing may be a little different here, possibly? The beetles hit in the late spring/early summer and were gone by late summer.

I know we have grubs as I have dug a few up when planting, plus the skunks have caused some serious damage looking for grubs as well.

That is one reason I am battling with my neighbor as I want to clean up the dam area where the skunks make a home.

In Illinois, I would put down a product that I believe was called Grubx in August, is that the same thing?

2112 09-30-2016 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 12456419)
Wow, ok, thanks. The timing may be a little different here, possibly? The beetles hit in the late spring/early summer and were gone by late summer.

I know we have grubs as I have dug a few up when planting, plus the skunks have caused some serious damage looking for grubs as well.

That is one reason I am battling with my neighbor as I want to clean up the dam area where the skunks make a home.

In Illinois, I would put down a product that I believe was called Grubx in August, is that the same thing?

Yeah I'm not sure about the timeline there it might be a month earlier then here. Grubx is probably a short term fix for an existing problem that has to be watered in immediately and loses toxicity within a day or two without being activated with water. Merit is a great product, it has a 4 month residual and is more of a preventative measure, so if you apply it in April it doesn't lose its burst until august. Merit is the actual chemical name, not the product name. Do a google search of merit insecticide and you'll see it. It's used in a product called termidor for termites (the best one on the market right now) among others.

HemiEd 09-30-2016 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by D2112 (Post 12456767)
Yeah I'm not sure about the timeline there it might be a month earlier then here. Grubx is probably a short term fix for an existing problem that has to be watered in immediately and loses toxicity within a day or two without being activated with water. Merit is a great product, it has a 4 month residual and is more of a preventative measure, so if you apply it in April it doesn't lose its burst until august. Merit is the actual chemical name, not the product name. Do a google search of merit insecticide and you'll see it. It's used in a product called termidor for termites (the best one on the market right now) among others.

Wow, thanks so much! I can't even begin to tell you how much I appreciate this help!

Looks like I might need to order a couple of these. https://www.amazon.com/Merit-Granula.../dp/B0053S5ATU

2112 09-30-2016 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 12456808)
Wow, thanks so much! I can't even begin to tell you how much I appreciate this help!

Looks like I might need to order a couple of these. https://www.amazon.com/Merit-Granula.../dp/B0053S5ATU

No problem! It works best when it's watered in after application if you use the granular. So just look at the weather, read the label and try and apply it before rainfall is predicted. Good luck!

HemiEd 09-30-2016 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by D2112 (Post 12457701)
No problem! It works best when it's watered in after application if you use the granular. So just look at the weather, read the label and try and apply it before rainfall is predicted. Good luck!

Maybe I should look at spraying a liquid since we live on the side of an Ozark "Mountain" so it don't "warsh" down the gully.

HonestChieffan 09-30-2016 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by D2112 (Post 12456767)
Yeah I'm not sure about the timeline there it might be a month earlier then here. Grubx is probably a short term fix for an existing problem that has to be watered in immediately and loses toxicity within a day or two without being activated with water. Merit is a great product, it has a 4 month residual and is more of a preventative measure, so if you apply it in April it doesn't lose its burst until august. Merit is the actual chemical name, not the product name. Do a google search of merit insecticide and you'll see it. It's used in a product called termidor for termites (the best one on the market right now) among others.

Merit and Termidor are different chemicals. Merit is Imidacloprid . Termidor is fipronil.

2112 09-30-2016 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by HonestChieffan (Post 12458041)
Merit and Termidor are different chemicals. Merit is Imidacloprid . Termidor is fipronil.

I stand corrected, you're right. Termidor is a great product too. Low toxicity and long residual so it gets back to the colony and destroys everybody.

HonestChieffan 10-01-2016 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by D2112 (Post 12458125)
I stand corrected, you're right. Termidor is a great product too. Low toxicity and long residual so it gets back to the colony and destroys everybody.

Best ant killer ever

lewdog 12-05-2016 06:43 PM

Using this as the landscape thread. My Hibiscus are loving the daily highs of 60-70 here in December. Nice sunset tonight as well. I am gonna plant some roses this winter, just trying to find some Mr. Lincoln roses as my wife has her heart on those.

http://i.imgur.com/KPCRIjQ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/uAGNWjs.jpg

MTG#10 05-24-2018 06:05 PM

Anyone ordered trees online? If so how was your experience? The back yard at my new house is completely empty. I have a privacy fence but I want more privacy from my neighbors so I was thinking about ordering about 20 of these and planting them 5 feet apart.

srvy 05-24-2018 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 13568647)
Anyone ordered trees online? If so how was your experience? The back yard at my new house is completely empty. I have a privacy fence but I want more privacy from my neighbors so I was thinking about ordering about 20 of these and planting them 5 feet apart.

I did redbud and dogwood its took a few returns to get 2 that took off they were guaranteed for it seems 6 months. They are thriving and I could have gotten them at home depot with same sorta guarantee but was a gift of some supposedly special strain.

Fire Me Boy! 05-24-2018 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 13568647)
Anyone ordered trees online? If so how was your experience? The back yard at my new house is completely empty. I have a privacy fence but I want more privacy from my neighbors so I was thinking about ordering about 20 of these and planting them 5 feet apart.



I’ve ordered several things from that same company. A weeping willow, couple of figs, some camellias. They’re good, I’ve been impressed with their stuff. I order the guarantee, too, and had to use it on a Meyer lemon that didn’t survive winter. No problems, fast, good products.

HemiEd 05-24-2018 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 13568647)
Anyone ordered trees online? If so how was your experience? The back yard at my new house is completely empty. I have a privacy fence but I want more privacy from my neighbors so I was thinking about ordering about 20 of these and planting them 5 feet apart.

That should look great in a few years.

We ordered 30 Lombardi Poplars and quite a few other things on line a few years ago.

11 of the poplars are pretty nice now as one neighbor sprayed some with round up (****ing one who sucks the penis) and another neighbor unintentionally mowed a few over when they were small.
little twig azaleas didn't make it and almost nothing else survived but four burning bushes.

lewdog 05-24-2018 08:09 PM

My citrus trees are really looking good this year. Much less work than years past and much healthier after I almost killed them one summer. Oops! Lesson learned.

Planted a Barbados Cherry tree seedling directly in the ground in April. Was worried it was a bit too late here but she's starting to put out some new leaves! Unbelievably small seedling but I heard they grow fast. My grapevine is covered in grape bundles. I had to wrap them in a cloth material so the birds wouldn't eat them before they get ripe. Heard they are ready about Mid June here.

Might try to snap a few pictures sometime soon.

Happy planting!

HemiEd 05-25-2018 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 13568755)
My citrus trees are really looking good this year. Much less work than years past and much healthier after I almost killed them one summer. Oops! Lesson learned.

Planted a Barbados Cherry tree seedling directly in the ground in April. Was worried it was a bit too late here but she's starting to put out some new leaves! Unbelievably small seedling but I heard they grow fast. My grapevine is covered in grape bundles. I had to wrap them in a cloth material so the birds wouldn't eat them before they get ripe. Heard they are ready about Mid June here.

Might try to snap a few pictures sometime soon.

Happy planting!

Citrus trees would be really nice to have! What year is this for your grapes?

I have my grape vines in these huge pots and moved them this last fall to my parking area. Only one survived and is well behind the progress of yours.

Doubt if we have any fruit from the Peach, plum, pear and cherry trees this year since we had multiple freezes after they had bloomed out.


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