Let me guess you think that because the Chiefs came back it means the Chargers had to have went with a prevent defense?....

Lol.

I didn't mention the San Diego game at all in my post so I'm not sure what you are rambling on about. If you think the Chargers went into a prevent defense in the third quarter, then I'm not sure you are smart enough to talk about the upcoming game.

Didnt SD just have the Jags down 35-0? KC just had a bad day..it happens.

Do people really expect them to look like this every week? They played like total shit and STILL barely lost on the road... against a division winner last year with a shiny, new $70 million QB.

Relax...

I think this early trend of QBs "picking" on Peters is over.....2 (almost 3) INTs. OCs are going to scale back...he sent notice.

Just lost to the Falcons at home, but still won't shut the **** up.

Jets with 10 days rest will be tough. Bad match up. Too many weapons on offense and and punishing defensive front.

Yep. Especially with no consistent pass rush, Fitz will pick us apart. He's only "Bad Fitz" when pressured. This one could get ugly.

Weather looks like shit.

25% chance thunderstorms on Sunday.

Does this affect Charles return if the field is slick?

Jets probably win and it will look like it was a close one on the board but not on the field.

Line opened at chiefs being a 4 point favorite.

Looks like it slid a point or two and has comeback to settle at the chiefs being a 3 point favorite still.

I wouldn't touch this game with any real money, I don't think.....

I now this much. The Jets are rough riders that play hard and have a mentally tough coach and mind set. They have play makers that will kick our ass if we don't match their intensity.

KC must get better on offense in a big damn hurry or they will wipe us off the planet. Then Pitt will wipe us off the planet and we will be 1-3 and that is horrible in year 4 of this coaching staff and GM.

This a must win game for confidence and needed to go 2-2 and have a shot in the division. If we lose this sucker then we have big problem.

Over/under on Smith fetal position sacks? Gotta be at least 6. That front is going to ****ing sodomize our pathetic protection and QB.

But that might not be the ugliest part of the game. Our embarrassment of a front seven is going to get clowned which will allow a shitty QB like Fitzpatrick to ensure the secondary is raped for the 3rd straight week.

Lotta optimism in here atleast.

KC won't recover if we go 1-3.

You can talk about last year all you want but we're not running into Johnny Manziel, Jimmy Clausen and Landry Jones this year.

The schedule weakens quite a bit after the bye, but they need to win this week. Can't dig yourself a hole like that again.

Exactly. This is the saddest, truly the saddest possible way to realize how this season is gonna go:

After this week, the Chiefs don't face a QB who's worse than Smith until November 27th. And that team? Oh yeah, they have an all-time great defense who will ****ing destroy Smith to a degree we'll be lucky to score 10 points. ROFL

You are such a stupid ****ing shit

The stuff you mentioned have NOTHING to do with anything i said

There are lots of variables to every game but the keys to the game are almost exactly like they were for the Texans game.

Jets have good WRs
Jets have a good Dline
Our offensive and defensive playcalling is always an issue
We didn't have our minds right against the Texans and need to against the Jets

Same keys as the Texans game ... same ****ing keys

I never said what would happen, i said the the keys are same. Can your brain comprehend the situation?

And you're the whiniest ****ing **** in Chiefsplanet history.

You're a ****ing broken record "**** Sutton!", "The Chiefs ****ED UP Houston!" and on and on and on.

Every ****ing thread.

**** off and die, you worthless **** rag. Choke on Claythan's panties.

:clap:

They're edible.

All true and exactly what I'm saying. This is a must win game if there is any hope of a div title. We should have gone 3-1 this month and now there's pretty much no hope of that with a short week trip to Pitt looming.

If it wasn't for a miracle come back we would be 0-2. This team is in real trouble if the offense doesn't wake the hell up this week.

Offensively, I would think the gameplan has to be to get the quick game rolling early. Slants, outs, hitch routes. Bowles is notorious for blitzing and they are obviously stacked up front, so that needs to be slowed down early with your passing game and screens. I would expect Jamaal to play, and hopefully he will be able to make some things happen in the run game with Ware on their own, cause it's going to be tough to open up big lanes this week. The Jets secondary is very much in question and needs to be attacked.

Defensively, will Marshall play? Idk, but regardless the key is going to be stopping the run early to force Fitzpatrick to make big throws. We need better push from Howard, Bailey and Poe in the middle. Hali either needs to play more or Nicolas needs to take snaps from Zombo.

In watching the Jets game from last week, their OL really struggled with Buffalo's front. A lot of New York's offense came on chuck and duck throws that their receivers made plays on.

If our front shows up Sunday, they should be able to have success against them for sure.

I must have slept through almost all of Fitzpatricks stellar HOF career. I guess I've got to get Sunday ticket and see what all this buzz is about.

I would just be happy to see the offense start using the 3 TE set. It's their best formation. It would have helped so much at Houston, yet Most of the game, Kelce was the only TE on the field. I don't think they even ran that formation once did they?

This

Also in watching over the NYJ-BUF game, I think the Jets front is being a little bit overblown right now. I'm guilty of this too.

So talented, but man it looks like they take their share of plays off. On several pass plays Tyrod has all the time in the world to throw. I mean ALL day. Really, I guess you could say they look a lot like us right now up front. Pretty stout in the middle, but not a lot coming off the edge. Their pass rush is completely dependent on their interior beasts on making stuff happen, and they didn't against Buffalo. They stop the run well but aren't consistently getting a pass rush and they are undisciplined in their rush lanes. This could very well be a week we see Alex run for 60 or so yards.

I like our odds A LOT better just going off what I've seen. If the Chiefs show up from snap 1, it's a double digit win.

its up to Andy. Don't call shit plays and get your players ready from the beginning.

He needs to be preaching to the team all week that we need to start the game off strong.

I was at the game and am not the most knowledgeable guy out there but I did notice a 3 TE set at least once early in the game. Wasn't really watching for it though.

I will also note that Kelce seemed like his back hurt or something. He walked gingerly every time I saw him going on or off the field in the second half.

I posted the snap counts in the WTD happened thread. Out of 72 offensive snaps, Kelce had 55, Harris had 19, and Ross had 6. So the maximum number of times that we could have ran it was the 6 times that Ross was out there. That is just crazy. We have all seen how effective that formation is. Yet it obviously wasn't even part of the game plan. I just don't get it. Are they trying to save it back and then surprise the Broncos with it when we play them? Use it for crying out loud. It works!

and once again has nothing to do with the fact that when it comes to football i was correct and you were just a bleeding vag.

Oh look, all the whiny little homers banding together because they don't like reality and can't understand the basics of football.

no surprise

Dr. ****ing Defensive Coordinator Laz

No one understands NFL defenses and ACL surgery, repair and rehab like you.


LMAO

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Looks to me as if Ehinger will be ready to go at LG, with Fulton at RG.

If something happened to Morse, either Fulton would slide over or be replaced with Munyer at some point.

Yet, 4 tight ends.

FWEEEEET!!!!!

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15 YARDS & SINCERELY APOLOGIZE TO DANE ANE ANE

AUTOMATIC FIRST DOWN!!!!

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Jets don't stand a chance, because of Arrowhead and Dane. They're a bad/terrible overrated team.

LMAO

The irony of YOU telling me that I don't understand the basics of football. The same guy that said movie Berry to LB and had us keeping 4 WR's at one point (Plus Jamaal Charles our future slot WR!!).

:rolleyes:

You wanna know what "not liking reality" is? Thinking you know more than the HC, GM, Doctors, and DC of a team that's had 3 consecutive winning seasons, and continuing to bitch about them and feel as though you've been right all along, and they've been doing it ALL wrong. You don't have a ****ing clue dude, and you're completely delusional. Top 5 biggest idiot on this forum.

They've shown so far in two games that they won't.

Well, we now know that Maclin was clearly depressed (the article is in the Star) and most likely, Reid won't see the field again. That's 2 out of 11 players that should perform better on Sunday.

The other stuff a like False Starts, bad snaps and fumble fingers can be fixed. Who knows, maybe Maclin's situation took the air out of the offense?

But if they play like they did against San Diego for 45 minutes and against the Texans, there are bigger problems afoot, mainly, the coaching staff not motivating its players.

and again, not a single rationale football post to be found


Just Dane losing his ****ing mind again.

Same thing happen awhile back before you blew a casket.


What was again that sent you into hibernation?

something about you liking high school girls or something? :hmmm:

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I'm less worried about the defense now though. The young corners look better than I expected and the run d was much better against the Texans.

The problem is the damn offense. It was supposed to be better, but it's been meh.

Tamba Hali only playing a half bothers me.

It sucks, but I'm tired of getting to December and January with banged up pass rushers. So, if this allows them to all be healthy then, fine.

If they had a healthy Houston, it would be a much smaller issue IMO, but it's the cards they've been dealt.

FYI Steve McClendon has been a beast in his first two games as a Jet. The d line has been dominant and just got Richardson back last Thursday. The Chiefs will have to be unpredictable on offense. If they try pounding the running game it's gonna be a long day. Alex smith is going to have to win this game.

Zombo is the bigger issue.

Yeah, the Jets DL is what we wish the Chiefs DL was.

THE CASKET IS ON FIRE THE CASKET'S ON FIRE

Alex Smith without a running game. LMAO

Oh, this'll be a hoot!

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The last 3 years, when we rush for less than 75 yards Alex is...0-5! ROFL

Alex is going to put the team on his back just like Greg Jennings

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I'm pretty sure that stat is pretty consistent across the league. If you can't get at least 75 yards on the ground you lose way more than you win. Even if you're Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady

The Jets DL is nice but again, just take the time to watch last week's Buffalo game over. I did today and honestly came away feeling way better about the matchup.

Wilkerson, Williams and Richardson are hardly ever all on the field at once. They do a nice job against the run but Tyrod Taylor had time to read the entire field of pass options on a large number of dropbacks.

You're 0-34

Little factoid I found interesting....KC has allowed 9 2nd half points. Jets have allowed 31...

Why do people claim Sutton cant make adjustments?

If the Chiefs offense would quit dicking around in the first half....these games would'nt be close.

Aaron Rodgers: 2-5
Tom Brady: 9-5
Philip Rivers: 2-13
Tony Romo: 4-6
Matt Stafford: 6-10
Matt Ryan: 4-12
Andy Dalton: 2-6
Eli Manning: 3-10
Kirk Cousins: 2-7

Looks like several quarterbacks can win more than once a year in this situation. Alex is just a ****ing loser. No excuse for being 0-5.

Looks to me like everyone but Brady loses way more than they win without a running game, which is what I said(except for Brady). Thanks for proving my point.

Yep. We all knew that going into the season, that without a consistent pass rush combined with a few inexperienced DB's in the Secondary, that the defense would take a step backwards - especially early on.

It was also easy to believe that the offence should pick up the slack being that this is year 4, more talent at skilled positions, upgrades to the OL, etc...We were spot on about the defense, but way off with the offense. Except for one qtr and OT period, the offense has been a huge disappointment.

Thanks for proving MINE: Alex is LEAGUE WORST in this statistic. Just like winning against 24+ and throwing the ball down the field.

This game reminds me a lot of the Rams game at Arrowhead in 2014. I hope we use the same gameplan.

You're right as far as their defense goes, but we are facing a much better offense this week and we don't have Justin Houston to take over the game.

You focus a lot on the Jets specifically; what you're missing is that the Browns would be a tough matchup for the Chiefs right now. Shit, they'd struggle with the Crimson Tide.

Even if Smith has time, which I strongly doubt due to inept OL play and the NFL's worst internal clock, he doesn't survey the field and carve up chunk plays like Taylor did. Do you think the Chiefs are throwing an 85-yard TD pass any time this decade? ROFL

With Tyreek Hill, I wouldn't be surprised a bit.

But luckily you don't need 85 yard TDs to win a football game.

He's still won more games than just about every quarterback in the league the last 3 years. I'll take that statistic any day of the week. I couldn't care leass if he's lost 5 games when the team has ran for less than 75 yards. So has every quarterback on the list. So what if the others have managed to pull out a couple of wins in that situation. Those wins are clearly an anomaly. He is our quarterback. That is the choice made by our coach and GM. All the hating that you do is not going to change that. You can act like a 6 year old and continue to pout about it until he's gone, or you can enjoy watching him and this team win 10 games a year average and win in the playoffs. I choose to enjoy the wins. And just so you know. I also want to develop a quarterback. I wanted Geno Smith, Johnny Manziel and Jimmy Clausen. I'm glad that I didn't get what I wanted there. I wanted Derek Carr. I also wanted Paxton Lunch this year and was upset when Dungver jumped in front of us and got him. I REALLY hope that I was wrong again there. But the fact of the matter is, that Alex Smith is our quarterback. Nothing that you or Dagnabit, or me, or any of us can do about it. Besides, we could do worse. Alex Smith is not a bad quarterback. No, he's not ever going to be Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers. But those guys are rare. So I'm going to watch the Chiefs win with Alex Smith at quarterback. I'm going to enjoy watching them play, and you're going to whine and cry like a 6 year old because you didn't get your way.

And "those wins" could be the difference between going 9-7 and making the playoffs, which is exactly what happened to this team in 2014 and will probably happen this year.

Thanks for quoting that moron. Stupid posts like this are why I have him on ignore. He probably really believes what he's saying. That the Chiefs would struggle with Alabama and Cleveland. What a moron. ROFL

Well, IF we miss the playoffs this year(not likely), then you can say I told you so. But I doubt that you get that opportunity. It's also not likely that the team rushes for less than 75 yards in a game anyway. That 0-5 number. Is that since he was a Chief or for his career? I'm assuming as a Chief. Either way, the Chiefs are a strong running team and a sub 75 yard game is such an anomaly, that I really have no concerns over how Smith does when we have one of those rare games. Bad games happen. Last week was one of those games.

This is a easy victory. We laid a huge egg against a crap Texan team. Jets will not be so lucky. They are total crap.

Gotta disagree with him on his Bama take. That was kinda dumb. But the Chiefs DID struggle with Cleveland at home last season. :shrug: Course that was last season...

Smith's history is that he doesn't throw td passes. End of story. In today's NFL that is not good enough. We have seen him do everything he is capable of and it's not good enough. There is a lot I like about Smith, he's smart, takes responsibility for the offense, can run well and has made numerous plays with his legs when needed and doesn't turn the ball over much.

With all that being said he still just hasn't put enough points on the board to even win the division yet. We would have lost last season to Buff, Browns SD, Balt and the Raiders if not for the defense bailing us out. He is easier to defend than most other QB's because he is not a down field shot taker most of the time. Even at the 15 yard line he's hesitant to throw it towards the end zone.

Just saying he limits this teams success going forward because of points.

The Broncos struggled with Cleveland last year too.

It's the NFL.

Not at home they didn't.

The Broncos beat the Browns in OT, 26-23, in Cleveland.

I agree with much of what you said, however, I don't think we can pin all of our offensive woes on Smith. To me, our WR corps looks weak. Not sure if it's worst in the league, but it's close. Also, again this year our offensive line struggles to remain healthy -- missing BOTH guards in game #2 does not engender good OL continuity.

Then we also have Andy Reid's game plan"......which for the life of me I couldn't figure out. That poor effort also leads to offensive woe.

Nope, as poorly as Alex has played, he isn't alone in inducing poor offensive performance. Bottom line is that we need a whole lot of offensive performers to step up their games....Big Time.

This

I'm not saying it's all on Smith and I'm not talking just about the just Houston game, Andy's plan was all over the place and several players were crap. I am talking about him as a QB in general. We certainly don't have the greatest WR's but too many times he's so conservative you can't win with him on a regular basis. In year 4 he should be able to sling it better than he has in this offense. Maclin, Connely, Wilson (who I hate) Kelce know the offense and where to be. One good quarter from him in two games is not good going forward.

Every year we same the same thing it seems with him and every year we can't score worth a shit. We have to get TD's this season or next year we should replace him. Probably won't happen but it should. He is who he is and nothing has changed for the better.

LDT is practicing today

I think Andy's biggest issue is scripting. He sticks with his script for far too long, even if it's not working.

Once he's realized it's a failure and starts getting into the game itself, the offense generally improves.