Sucks that this year's QB offerings are going to be inflated. Mahomes will be overvalued, and there's no way Dorsey is going to package a deal to reach for him. I wouldn't, and I want a QB more than anything else.
Chiefs are just damned when it comes to QB's.

Using Walter's 1/26/17 mock, I think O.J. Howard, TE Alabama, is the best value available for the Chief's pick. AR loves multiple TE sets and AS11 likes to target his TEs. I believe it would make the Chief's offense more consistently effective if AR and AS11 had 2 really good TEs. I don't think there is any question that the Chief's offense needs to be more consistently effective.

We could have Gronk and Kelce at Tight End and Julio Jones, Dez Bryant, and Antonio Brown as our 3 WR's and our offense wouldn't be consistently effective

Howard is going to explode up boards.

He MIGHT go top 10 by the time it's all said and done. He's an absolute monster.

All of this

I'm guessing that Mahomes could very well fall to KC at #27. In fact, I could see either Mahomes or Deshaun Watson being available when KC picks.

I hope that if it comes down to either Mahomes or Watson... that we pick Mahomes.

Sounds good to me. Hope for the best!

There is absolutely no way Watson is available at #27 and with as much buzz as Mahomes has been receiving lately, it's not even assured that he'll be there at #27.

Watson will be off the charts at the Combines. If Mahomes throws well and checks out, he'll rise as well.

I don't disagree. The lowest I've seen Watson go in a mock draft was 25. Would just take one team passing on him (based on that one draft... I know) for him to be available. That said... I doubt he will be there.

I'm still crossing my fingers for Mahomes at 27 or a small trade up to go get him.

Mahomes would be a major score for KC. "Win now" with Smith has gone as far as it's going to go, the Chiefs need to start thinking of the future.

Mahomes is probably going to end up in Houston, a few spots before KC, because **** us ever getting a QB.

Mahomes to Houston has been rumored.

We know the Chiefs don't have the balls to trade up for a guy they really want.

You mean a guy Chiefs Planet really wants.

Either/or.

I believe Dorsey would make a bold move if the time and player were right. Dorsey doesn't strike me as a draft coward.

I'll believe it when I see it. He already had the chance to sit on his ass and draft Derek Carr and he passes for ****ing Dee Ford. I have no more faith in him to draft a QB than I did in Peterson or Pioli.

They had already committed to Smith with the extension. As others have pointed out, the Chiefs are in a better position to cut ties with Smith now. But yeah, I can understand your frustration.

I think that we are, what... 7mil on the hook for Smith if he gets cut/traded this season?

Yup, this is the first time it has been cap friendly to move away from Smith.

27. Charles Harris, DE/OLB, Missouri

The Chiefs could go in a ton of directions with this pick, and it wouldn't surprise me if they moved down as a result of Quenton Nelson returning to Notre Dame. If the Chiefs stay put, they could consider a talented pass-rusher. Sure, they already have Justin Houston, Tamba Hali and Dee Ford, but Hali won't be around much longer, while Ford is entering his contract year. Ford could command more money on the open market than the Chiefs are willing to pay him, and if so, this new edge rusher will come in handy.

59. Nathan Peterman, QB, Pittsburgh

Andy Reid committed to Alex Smith for next season, but that doesn't mean that he won't spend an early-round selection on a quarterback to eventually take over for his mediocre starter.

91. Montravius Adams, DE/DT, Auburn

Andy Reid loves bolstering the trenches, and I imagine he'll do so after seeing his defense get gashed against the run all year.

122. Duke Riley, LB, LSU

Derrick Johnson is a 34-year-old coming off a torn Achilles that he suffered in December. It's highly unlikely that he'll be ready for the 2017 campaign, so the Chiefs need to find a new inside linebacker to play next to Ramik Wilson.

No to Peterman. Alex v2.0

That mock is like a worst case scenario for us. ****ing Watson and Mahomes go in the 5 picks before ours. Just trade the **** up and take one.

We get a 5th year option on Ford right? So we really control him for two more seasons.

I tend to agree.

Pros: Good pocket presence, athletic, strong runner, above average arm strength.

Cons: Never has had more than 193 completions in a season. Has never been asked to throw a lot at all as he comes from a Power Run offense and we happen to have some ??? at RB. Will need a lot of work on his accuracy if he will become anything in the NFL.

Go through Campbell's mock on that sight, he has Watson falling into the low 50's, the Chiefs taking an undersized slot receiver in the first, and Corey Davis going two picks after us.

Daniel Jeremiah has KC taking Budda Baker in his most recent mock...


http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/mock-d...eremiah/335600

Passing on Kizer or Mahomes? For a safety? **** that.

That won't happen.

I'm inclined to believe at this point that the Chiefs aren't going to trade up for a QB. If one falls to them, however, they'll grab him. The problem is going to be teams like Cleveland at the top of the 1st being willing to move ahead of them. The league has to know that the Chiefs are a landing spot for a QB late in the 1st and if one of them is still sitting there at 25, don't you think the Browns would gladly surrender a 3rd to move up there and snag him?

If Dorsey wants a QB, at some point he's going to have to be more aggressive. His 'wait for the board to come to me' approach has worked out okay thus far but with this particular position, it's not gonna happen.

It's still really early.

But I'm thinking the qbs will be there at 27

Which ones?

I could see the Saints, Browns, Jets, Bears, Giants, and Texans all looking for QB's. The Browns, Bears, and Jets could all probably trade down to the middle of the first and take their QB's there.

If the Chiefs have a QB they like, and he's still there around the 20's, I'd be really scared of the Giants (@23) and the Texans (@25) taking him. Hell, you'd have to worry about teams trying to jump the Giants and Texans too. I don't think it's wise to sit there and wait on a potential franchise QB to fall to you, you gotta make a move to get him.

They may all be looking, but not in the first, I don't think.

The Browns, Bears, and Jets, maybe.

The Texans aren't spending a first on a QB, nor will the Giants.

Bob McNair said they need to get more production out of the QB position next year and that they'll be looking at QB's in the draft.

Eli is 36 years old, if a QB the Giants like falls into their lap they'd be fools not to take him, IMO.

There's no way Houston stands pat with Brock Osweiler and Tom Savage IMO. I think they'll definitely be players for a 1st round QB.

I fully expect NYG and HOU to look at QB. Whether they feel Round 1 is a value or not, can't be sure at this juncture.

I don't know, the Chiefs can't be the only franchise run by reeruns, can they? We've consistently had no succession plan at QB. Surely other franchises would do the same idiotic crap the Chiefs do, wouldn't they?

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27. DeShone Kizer, QB, Notre Dame

Andy Reid selected Kevin Kolb with his initial draft choice back in 2007. Donovan McNabb was entrenched as his starter, but he was about to turn 31, and Reid was thinking of the future. Perhaps Reid will make a similar decision at this juncture, as Alex Smith is a few months away from 33. Smith performed poorly this past season, so the Chiefs need to get better at quarterback anyway. Plus, DeShone Kizer seems like great value at this spot. Kizer has fallen in this mock draft update, but I think this is the right range for him.

59. Montravius Adams, DE/DT, Auburn

Andy Reid loves bolstering the trenches, and I imagine he'll do so after seeing his defense get gashed against the run all year.

91. Jordan Willis, DE/OLB, Kansas State

The Chiefs have Justin Houston, Tamba Hali and Dee Ford, but Hali won't be around much longer, while Ford is entering his contract year. Ford could command more money on the open market than the Chiefs are willing to pay him, and if so, this new edge rusher will come in handy.

122. Duke Riley, LB, LSU

Derrick Johnson is a 34-year-old coming off a torn Achilles that he suffered in December. It's highly unlikely that he'll be ready for the 2017 campaign, so the Chiefs need to find a new inside linebacker to play next to Ramik Wilson.

Can someone please e-mail this dipshit to tell him that Andy Reid isn't making the selections?

PFF's most recent mock...


https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...m_campaign=nfl

Not sure if Lewis fits as a starting CB on the outside in Sutton's D. Agree with the Senior Bowl assessment that Lewis will excel as a nickel CB covering inside receivers. Don't think that that is worth their #1 when Nelson was solid in that role last season.

Man, Kizer and Cunningham are still available in that scenario. I would hate that.

THIS would be incredible!!

ROFL I was thinking the same thing.

Yeah, I'm not sure if Lewis would fall to us in the 2nd, but the late 1st is too early for him.

I like him well enough, but he's not a first round talent, IMO.

Nah - if Kizer, Trubisky or Mahomes are still there for us, I won't really care who else is on the board.

Something's gotta give. I really like Cunningham but if the QB is there, take the QB and be happy.

I agree completely, my only point was if they take a nickel corner with one of the QB's or Cunningham still on the board, that wouldn't be cool.

I hope we trade up and get Watson

I think Kizer's stock has been dropping like a rock and people are starting to catch on. McShay and Kiper both had him out of the first round

What's causing it to drop? Nothing has changed since the season ended.

The 4-8 season at ND didn't help him. And honestly....he's probably got 2 years before I'd start him. But dude has a sky high ****ing ceiling.

More film study would be my guess.

The initial impressions are usually based on a guys measureables and best plays. When you just look at his height/weight/arm and then see the things he's capable of doing, you are drooling over him.

Then when you look at how often he actually does those things as opposed to some of the erratic throws and silly decisions, you start to take pause. You can only get a real feel for that when you start to do deeper digging on each prospect.

I've seen a little more of Kizer than most as a ND fan, but I've also seen it as a fan so I'm not entirely objective I'm sure. And many others just see a big, broad dude with plus athleticism that shows the ability to throw it through a wall but as they see those times that he actually tries to throw it through a wall of defenders, they get a little skittish.

There are warts but the guy has physical ability on par with the best in the NFL right now.

It annoys me when the talking heads bring up the fact that he got pulled twice last year late in games. Kelly royally ****ed up the QB situation. I don't think any of that was on Kizer. That was all Kelly.

I'd damn sure take that over a guy who's physical ability is diminishing and is so risk averse he won't throw to a single covered receiver no matter how bad the mismatch!

Having seen DeShone Kizer in Toledo, Oh in 2011 in HS, I'd be very happy with this pick. I'm from Toledo, so I'm definitely biased when it comes to Kizer. I'd love to see KC get him or Mahomes II.

Mayock has Kizer as his #1 qb prospect for the 2017 draft.

I agree with him.
A lot of hype around Watson and Mahomes, but when you look into the reasons why maybe some are skittish about Kizerr, you circle back to the fact that he really had no receiving weapons and a very inexperienced, talent-deficient offensive line in front of him. He was surrounded by far superior talent in 2015, and the results speak for themselves. He also didn't get the vote of confidence from Kelly at season start which may have rattled him somewhat when there was a QB controversy to begin the season.

I think he has outstanding measurables, above average athleticism, he can make all the throws, and played in a respectable system with regards to having to make field reads. I will also say though that he was under-coached at Notre Dame and this may have stunted his progression, and that is why pundits are saying he may take a little while to develop.

If he for whatever reason is available at 27, you sprint to the podium and welcome him to Chiefs kingdom.

I swear if kc if KC passes on Kizer or Mahomes, I'll boycott this shit. Grow a pair of ****ing nuts and draft "your" guy.

DJ and Bucky Brooks did a mock on their podcast and gave KC Deshaun Watson (Trebisky went to Chi, Kizer to AZ, and Mahomes didn't get drafted in the first)

KC's pick is around the 39:20 mark.
http://www.nfl.com/podcasts?id=238c8...4db05d38748ddd


They gave Denver OJ Howard who's the guy I want Denver to take.

Mahomes out of the first? I can't believe both the Texans and the Chiefs would pass him up....

And I hope OJ Howard gets drafted by an NFC team.

Walters latest update:
Kizer
Tim Williams
Montravious dams
Duke Riley

That would be a good ass draft.

Miller's most recent mock, Mahomes was picked by Houston...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...ce=twitter.com

Read his stock his sinking like a rock due to off the field concerns. I would love the pick though

What are his off field issues? Did he Joe Mixon some ho? Or Laramie Tunsil it?

I've read he's had shoulder problems since high school and that could be another reason he could fall.

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Chiefs are not taking a ****ing RB in round 1. There is no way under God that Dorsey could be that stupid.

Updated after the combine.

27. Deshaun Watson, QB, Clemson

Andy Reid selected Kevin Kolb with his initial draft choice back in 2007. Donovan McNabb was entrenched as his starter, but he was about to turn 31, and Reid was thinking of the future. Perhaps Reid will make a similar decision at this juncture, as Alex Smith is a few months away from 33. Smith performed poorly this past season, so the Chiefs need to get better at quarterback anyway.

I should note that no team we've spoken to has Deshaun Watson as a first-round prospect. One high-ranking personnel man in the NFC told me he has Watson as a third-round prospect. It's so much like the Teddy Bridgewater draft, when the media had Bridgewater in the first round, and yet NFL franchises considered him to be a second-day prospect, even before his woeful pro day. However, this was prior to the national championship, so I have to believe some team will trade up into the back end of the opening frame to take Watson, much like the Vikings did with Bridgewater. In this case, Kansas City is simply taking Watson with its own pick, and I think it's a very logical selection.

59. Tim Williams, DE/OLB, Alabama

With Tamba Hali nearing retirement and Dee Ford hitting free agency soon, the Chiefs could be in the market for a new edge rusher. Tim Williams has Randy Gregory-type off-the-field concerns, but Andy Reid has taken chances on troubled players.

91. Joe Mixon, RB, Oklahoma

The Chiefs cut Jamaal Charles, so they'll need to spend an early-round selection on a new running back.

Joe Mixon is an ultra-talented running back, but will slip in the draft because he punched a woman a couple of years ago. However, Andy Reid has given second chances to players, so perhaps he'll give Mixon a shot to redeem himself, just as he did with Tyreek Hill.

103. Jake Butt, TE, Michigan

Andy Reid loves using multiple tight ends, so this is an option despite Travis Kelce being on the roster. This is some major value, as Jake Butt getting hurt caused him to drop two rounds.

132. Damore'ea Stringefellow, WR, Ole Miss

Jeremy Maclin likely won't be around in Kansas City much longer because of his salary. The Chiefs could use a mid-round selection on a receiver.


Let's just draft all the players with issues!!!

So is this Walter's thing now? He's moved on from giving us 5 linemen in 7 rounds to giving us every player that has any character issue because we took Tyreek Hill?

That said, in a vacuum, that is a lot of potential talent right there.

Charlie's latest. Keep in mind that Trubisky, Kizer and Mahomes went before our pick and we passed on Watson (who was taken at 33).

27. Corey Davis, WR, Western Michigan

The Chiefs grab a third play-maker to pair with Jeremy Maclin and Tyreek Hill.

As a senior, Davis amassed 97 receptions for 1,500 yards and 19 touchdowns. Sources say the 6-foot-3, 209-pounder is long and athletic. He has impressed evaluators with good route-running, hands and deceptive speed. They like his run-after-the-catch skills and size.

Davis was banged up somewhat in 2015, but still produced, totaling 90 receptions for 1,436 yards with 12 touchdowns. In 2014, Davis was excellent with 78 catches for 1,408 yards and 15 touchdowns. He had quality production as a freshman as well (67-941-6).

59. Fabian Moreau, CB, UCLA

The Chiefs could use more corner talent around Marcus Peters.

Moreau (6-0, 202) was one of the stars of the East-West Shrine throughout the week as he impressed teams with his size, physicality, and coverage skills. Moreau is a tough corner who is capable of running the route to prevent separation. As a senior, he totaled 31 tackles with two interceptions and 10 passes broken up.

91. Joe Mixon, RB, Oklahoma

The Chiefs grab their heir apparent to Jamaal Charles. They have taken character risks in recent years - see Marcus Peters and Tyreek Hill -, so it wouldn't be surprising if they were willing to give Mixon a chance.

Mixon is an electric runner with excellent speed and the ability to rip off a long run on any carry. He became Oklahoma's featured runner as a redshirt sophomore with an average of seven yards per carry (168 carries) for 1,183 yards with eight touchdowns while sharing carries with Samaje Perine. Mixon also was a receiving weapon with 32 receptions for 449 yards with five touchdowns.

Sources have said that they think Mixon is a serious talent with three-down starting potential in the NFL. Some teams, however, already have ruled him out because of the incident from 2014 in which he punched a woman after she declined Mixon's advances. After video of the incident was released two years later, Mixon issued a tearful apology. Some teams have already removed him from their draft boards because of the character concerns.

104. Duke Riley, ILB, LSU

The Chiefs could use more linebacker depth and a potential replacement for Derrick Johnson.

Riley (6-0, 232) was a backup before coming on as a senior. He had an impressive game against Alabama in 2016 and got better as the year progressed. Riley totaled 93 tackles with nine for a loss, 1.5 sacks, one pass batted and one interception for the season.

Riley is a fast and physical linebacker who would fit as a Will (weakside) linebacker in a 4-3 defense.

132. Davis Webb, QB, California

The Chiefs grab a big-armed quarterback to develop behind Alex Smith.

In 2016, Webb completed 62 percent of his passes for 4,295 yards with 37 touchdowns and 12 interceptions. The graduate transfer has a strong arm and can make some well-placed passes downfield. He also has good size and stands tall in the pocket. Webb shows some field vision to work through his progressions, but he doesn't have mobility for the NFL. In terms of the critical characteristic of accuracy, Webb has potential. Sources say Webb (6-4, 229) can be erratic, but that they like him enough to think of him as a potential second-day pick. California's offense does a poor job of preparing quarterbacks for the NFL - see Jared Goff -, so Webb will have to learn calling plays in the huddle, working under center, traditional footwork for a pro quarterback, and running NFL plays instead of California's Bear Raid college plays.

That would give us some real fire power on offense, outside the quarterback that is.

Yay! Another receiver who will get no looks!

Well done!

Daniel Jeremiah's mock... Surprised he has Trubisky falling to 32.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...-qb-successors

CBS Rob Rang has Mike Williams falling to us and Kizer out of the 1st.

27. Kansas City Chiefs
Mike Williams, WR, Clemson: The Chiefs’ receiving corps is full of savvy route runners and speed demons but lacks bulk and physicality, which is precisely where the 6-3, 218 pound Williams excels. This would be an ideal landing spot for Williams, whose ability to win contested passes could make him a perfect red zone threat for an offense built around Alex Smith’s accuracy in the short to intermediate levels.

Aaaaaaaaaaand the mocks now go full-reerun.

Know how I know this is bullshit?

If the Chiefs take an RB with Trubiski sitting there, Reid and Dorsey need to be taken to the parking lot and flayed with cat o' nine tails.

Prisco's mock. He has Trubisky falling to 25.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/pr...ips-to-texans/

Prisco has Awuzie as the second corner off the board. I don't think he's better than most of the guys who Prisco had going after him in the first and Teez Tabor isn't in there at all.

McShay has KC taking Kamara, and Trubisky falling to 25...

http://imgur.com/a/MQsny

Its ridiculous. The qb with what many consider the highest potential not going until 27. Not in our reality will that happen so don't fret about that stupid mock.

he also has Watson and Trubisky as the only QB's to be drafted in round 1. No chance that happens.