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Anyong Bluth 10-20-2016 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 12495359)
They did the same thing and referenced this thread. Be aware folks, they're watching!

Then they can take notes.

Reerun_KC 10-20-2016 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth (Post 12495380)
Then they can take notes.

As should we! Even the Saints have won a Superbowl....

Msmith 10-20-2016 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 12495313)
Dude on their site said they'll "probably score at least 35 points"

The Saints won't score 35 here. Unless the Chiefs play like the Chargers.

Halfcan 10-20-2016 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 12495363)
Don't forget Gaines. He's probably only played half the snaps this year.

Hopefully we replace Gaines next year. He can't stay on the field and when he is playing-average at best.

Anyong Bluth 10-20-2016 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 12495385)
As should we! Even the Saints have won a Superbowl....

I wasn't aware that the Saints fans posting on their message boards were credited with directly helping the team win the SB. Were they drawing up & submitting plays to Sean?

Simply Red 10-20-2016 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth (Post 12495441)
I wasn't aware that the Saints fans posting on their message boards were credited with directly helping the team win the SB. Were they drawing up & submitting plays to Sean?

Yes they put the plays on a beverage napkin & give it to the Saints staff w/ a big bowl of cajun Jambalaya.

Best22 10-20-2016 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 12495316)
Brees has to be excited to be playing against our secondary. He might end up breaking the record for yards and TD's in a game.

Chiefs are going to have to keep the Saints D. out on the field and finish drives with TD's and not FG's from the Brazilian Midget to stay in this one.

Just like Derek Carr was gonna kill our defense last week?

RunKC 10-20-2016 10:34 AM

Saints have scored points but look at who they've played:

Oakland-24th in points allowed
SD-23rd in points allowed
Atlanta-26th in points allowed
Panthers-29th in points allowed

Giants are the only semi-good defense they've played (14th in points allowed) and they could only score 13 on them.

Halfcan 10-20-2016 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 12495466)
Just like Derek Carr was gonna kill our defense last week?

Carr is not Brees. Carr was missing wide open receivers in the second half. Don't expect that this week.

Best22 10-20-2016 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 12495575)
Carr is not Brees. Carr was missing wide open receivers in the second half. Don't expect that this week.

It will be a struggle but I'm more of a wait and see guy. I expected to allow like 30+ to the Raiders as did many on this site. I also knew we had lost to SD once it was 21-3...

I'm not calling anything. Nothing would surprise me. Maybe our offense explodes. Maybe the Saints turn it over 6 times.

Maybe we lose 63-7

As for the Raiders win, Carr was missing some receivers but not any for big gainers. The raiders got beat down in Oakland, pure and simple. It was an excellent win

Anyong Bluth 10-20-2016 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 12495575)
Carr is not Brees. Carr was missing wide open receivers in the second half. Don't expect that this week.

Most definitely. Brees will be a lot more to handle, but his road numbers are terrestrial. I won't be shocked if they still get around 24 because of their talent, but I think the Chiefs win by 10 or less.

pugsnotdrugs19 10-20-2016 12:54 PM

Phillip Gaines practiced today.

Halfcan 10-20-2016 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 12495751)
It will be a struggle but I'm more of a wait and see guy. I expected to allow like 30+ to the Raiders as did many on this site. I also knew we had lost to SD once it was 21-3...

I'm not calling anything. Nothing would surprise me. Maybe our offense explodes. Maybe the Saints turn it over 6 times.

Maybe we lose 63-7

As for the Raiders win, Carr was missing some receivers but not any for big gainers. The raiders got beat down in Oakland, pure and simple. It was an excellent win

I really think this game comes down to one thing. Can the Saints stop the Chiefs running game? If not they lose.

If we can ground and pound like we did the second half of the Faders game- Chiefs will win this one. We keep Brees off the field and control the clock. It also means we are finishing drives for TD's-hopefully Ware and JC will run several in.

When we can run it helps our weak ass passing game and opens thing up for Kelce, Conley, and Maclin down the field.

When we can't run the ball-Andy goes into a prevent offense type horizontal attack that chews up the clock and ends in punts.

Run the ball Andy-you have the best studs in the NFL to carry the rock.

Simply Red 10-20-2016 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12495983)
Phillip Gaines practiced today.

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Frosty 10-20-2016 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12495983)
Phillip Gaines practiced today.

Did he practice limping to the sidelines during a game?

Sandy Vagina 10-20-2016 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12495983)
Phillip Gaines practiced today.

thanks for the info.. excellent news. :D

BossChief 10-20-2016 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12495983)
Phillip Gaines practiced today.

That's good news. He needs to experience the level of play going down the stretch so he can help us more in the postseason.

Stryker 10-20-2016 05:53 PM

FYI fact, the Saints have averaged 31 points per game the Chiefs have averaged 22. The defense needs to step up big time Sunday.

NJChiefsFan 10-20-2016 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth (Post 12494315)
Thanks!

I love the transitive logic of one of the posts there:

If Atlanta can win at Denver, we can win in KC.


wut???

If we are gonna play that game, MIA would destroy KC since they destroyed PIT and PIT destroyed us. Or better yet, we will beat the Saints because we beat OAK in OAK and OAK beat the Saints in NO. This league shows every week that you can't take results from other games to determine what team will beat the other.

Coochie liquor 10-21-2016 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 12496311)
Did he practice limping to the sidelines during a game?

Hey man, that's my ****ing adopt a chief 2016. You got a prob with my adopt a chief bro? We can throw down right now cuz NOBODDDDDYYYY talks shit on Mr Glass, I mean Philip Gaines!

We're connected, me and ol Phil you know why?? Because he's my adopt a chief this year. I can feel his every move. When he's grabbing women by the pussy I'm am feeling a solid connection. It's like we're joined at the frontal lobe, and we're best friends of course. So keep my adopt a Chiefs name out yo mouth yo.n nothing but a g thing baby!!

milkman 10-21-2016 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 12495238)
Pretty funny thread they have over there. Their defense would be better without injuries. Really? Good thing Houston, Mauga, March and Bailey don't really impact our defense much. Also, the play-calling from the OAK game is going to be their identity going forward. Much more running and play-action from heavy sets. They finally started using sherman a lot more as a lead blocker/h-back type.

You're assuming that Reid actually has an ability to learn and evolve.

When has he ever shown that?

DaneMcCloud 10-21-2016 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12498531)
You're assuming that Reid actually has an ability to learn and evolve.

When has he ever shown that?

Did the offense against the Raiders look different than in the previous 4 games?

milkman 10-21-2016 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12498536)
Did the offense against the Raiders look different than in the previous 4 games?

And how many times has he gone to that ball control offense when things aren't going well, only to revert to that same sideways passing offense that gets this team behind?

Saccopoo 10-21-2016 09:49 PM

Saints just listed LB Stephone Anthony as Out. He joins LB Dan Ellerbee as OUT vs. the Chiefs on Sunday.

DE Paul Kruger is Questionable with a back problem.

LT Teron Armstead is Questionable with a knee problem.
LG Andrus Peat is Out with a groin problem.


Left side of their offensive line is out and the linebacking crew is in shambles.

PutQuinnIn 10-21-2016 10:03 PM

Chiefs have no excuses not to destroy NO. Saints are the LA Lakers of football, gave Brees a huge contract extension to stay and put butts in seats (Kobe Bryant anyone?) and that's all they are. Patchwork of shotty offense and defensive lines.

Simply Red 10-21-2016 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 12498597)
Saints just listed LB Stephone Anthony as Out. He joins LB Dan Ellerbee as OUT vs. the Chiefs on Sunday.

DE Paul Kruger is Questionable with a back problem.

LT Teron Armstead is Questionable with a knee problem.
LG Andrus Peat is Out with a groin problem.


Left side of their offensive line is out and the linebacking crew is in shambles.



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Easy 6 10-21-2016 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 12498621)

LMAO that is creeping me out, but in a good way

Squalor2 10-21-2016 10:20 PM

when you get to it, the way beat the saints is to make them run

Saccopoo 10-21-2016 10:53 PM

The Saints run game sucks. Only Mark Ingram is seeing action and does have 272 yards on the season. They will run Cooks on end arounds, but rarely.

But they are passing the ball all over the place. (As usual.)

I'm a little worried about the Brandon Cooks matchup on our defensive backs to be honest.

I guess this is really the game that the Chris Jones fans are looking forward to as the left side of the Saints offensive line is either out or hobbled.

Saints haven't really been able to put pressure on an opposing QB other than by right defensive tackle Nick Fairly (3.5 sacks in 2016) and right defensive end Cameron Jordan (2.5 sacks in 2016). Other than LB Craig Robertson (33 tackles on the season), they aren't really stopping anyone.

Fisher will have to play strong and whoever starts at RG is going to have to be stout.

As Easy said, I'd like to see the Chiefs run it down their throats right from the start. That would put pressure on Fairly and Jordan and work their depleted LB corps. I'm also looking for a lot of screens to the right to move the ball away from their interior and take advantage of their weak edge defense. This should play in favor of our OL strengths in Schwartz and LDT as well as being able to use the strong side and get the ball out to Kelce.

The Saints are #2 in the NFL in scoring offense, but also #32 in points allowed. #31 in yards per game allowed. They are #4 in passing yards per game but #31 in passing yards allowed per game. #30 in rush yards per game and #26 rush yards allowed per game. They aren't stopping much of anyone at this point.

Ball control TOP will be key in keeping Brees/Cooks off the field for as long as possible but the Chiefs have to get TDs when they have red zone opportunities to do so. The Saints can score in a hurry and we don't have a team that excels in playing catchup (despite the San Diego game).


I'd also like to see Sutton unleash DJ and/or Sorensen on some blitzes.
They aren't running anyone over and it would be nice to see the Chiefs defense pressure Brees from the middle every once and a while.

RINGLEADER 10-22-2016 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 12493145)
They're the Raiders with a shittier offensive line and defense but better QB.

Cooks will be a problem. None of our guys have the speed to match him. I hope the safeties are on point for this game..

Well if Hopkins, Cooper, and all the other good receivers we've faced this season are any indication we will give up 250 yards in the first half and less than 100 in the second. Not sure why Sutton takes until the half to adjust but at least he does.

Really Brees throwing it to Cooks is the only real concern - I would think we can shut that chit down but we'll see. A few fun facts going into the game:

Chiefs have not lost at Arrowhead since October 18th last year. That's 8 home games in a row and they're 13-2 overall in the last 15 games.

So far this season the Chiefs have surrendered 6 points in the second half of games at Arrowhead and 26 points in the second halves of all five games played so far (with more than half of those coming in the Pittsburgh debacle).

KC is tied for first with the most interceptions in the NFL and fourth in turnover differential at +5.

Drew Brees has a 3TD to 2INT ratio and a 82.8 passer rating on the road (compared to 11TD and 2INT and a 114.3 passer rating at home).

When behind by more than one score Drew Brees has a 58.8 completion percentage and a passer rating of 62.7.

On grass Drew Brees has a passer rating of 74.7 with 2TD and 2INT.

Spencer Ware is fourth in yards-from-scrimmage with an average of 129.2.

Tyreek Hill is second in the NFL in punt return yardage and tied for 7th in kickoff returns.

SAUTO 10-22-2016 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 12496658)
If we are gonna play that game, MIA would destroy KC since they destroyed PIT and PIT destroyed us. Or better yet, we will beat the Saints because we beat OAK in OAK and OAK beat the Saints in NO. This league shows every week that you can't take results from other games to determine what team will beat the other.

Actually the scenario you are talking about makes much more sense then the one in the post you quoted.at least the teams played each other.

pugsnotdrugs19 10-22-2016 11:31 AM

As the game creeps closer, I get the feeling that the Chiefs are going to rape ass.

31-13, or so.

NJChiefsFan 10-22-2016 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12498903)
Actually the scenario you are talking about makes much more sense then the one in the post you quoted.at least the teams played each other.

Yes at least there is some cross over. It's a league of matchups for the most part. Some teams matchup better against certain teams. On paper, you would think KC has enough to slow down NO the way they play on the road. Especially with this being a very difficult road game for anyone. Add the poor Saints D and KC should win. Never know though.

SAUTO 10-22-2016 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 12498922)
Yes at least there is some cross over. It's a league of matchups for the most part. Some teams matchup better against certain teams. On paper, you would think KC has enough to slow down NO the way they play on the road. Especially with this being a very difficult road game for anyone. Add the poor Saints D and KC should win. Never know though.

Nothing would surprise me.

Rasputin 10-22-2016 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Squalor2 (Post 12498635)
when you get to it, the way beat the saints is to make them run

Yeah lets just not get into a shootout where Drew Breezy remembers he is Drew Breese and his mole puts up a bunch of points on us.

Solid defense and run down their throats can win us the game but getting into a shootout I believe is a bad idea.

crazycoffey 10-22-2016 09:14 PM

Going to the game now, what time does the stadium let you in to watch warm ups? We have no tailgate plans and I haven't been in early in for-ever.

Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan 10-22-2016 09:48 PM

Just looking at the injury report for the game. Saints are already down six players before the game even starts.


New Orleans Saints Injuries
Nicholas Fairley DT -- Did Not Participate In Practice --
Stephone Anthony LB Hamstring Did Not Participate In Practice Out
Delvin Breaux CB Fibula Did Not Participate In Practice Out
Daniel Lasco RB Hamstring Did Not Participate In Practice Out
Sterling Moore CB Abdomen Did Not Participate In Practice Out
Andrus Peat T Groin Did Not Participate In Practice Out
Dannell Ellerbe LB Quadricep Limited Participation in Practice Out
Terron Armstead T Knee Limited Participation in Practice Questionable
Paul Kruger DE Back Limited Participation in Practice Questionable

Kansas City Chiefs Injuries
Tamba Hali LB -- Did Not Participate In Practice --
Kenneth Acker CB -- Full Participation in Practice --
Jordan Devey G -- Full Participation in Practice --
Mitchell Schwartz T -- Full Participation in Practice --
Jamaal Charles RB Knee Limited Participation in Practice Questionable
Phillip Gaines CB Knee Limited Participation in Practice Questionable

hometeam 10-22-2016 09:50 PM

Ill be there, so we should win.

crazycoffey 10-22-2016 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by crazycoffey (Post 12499742)
Going to the game now, what time does the stadium let you in to watch warm ups? We have no tailgate plans and I haven't been in early in for-ever.

This is a good question; does anyone know?

CapsLockKey 10-22-2016 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by crazycoffey (Post 12499809)
This is a good question; does anyone know?

All Gates open at 10:30, Club level gates 9:30

Pointer19 10-22-2016 10:48 PM

This thread has me energized for this game. Give 'em hell!

KChiefs1 10-22-2016 10:50 PM

Let's talk about the Saints.
 
Weather is going to be perfect tomorrow.

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crazycoffey 10-22-2016 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CapsLockKey (Post 12499840)
All Gates open at 10:30, Club level gates 9:30

Thanks. I saw that on the website and wasn't sure if they meant it or not......

When do the players warm up?

Rausch 10-23-2016 08:45 AM

I see this game as being very similar to last week.

Hold the ball. Pound the rock. Spread the ball out to everyone in the passing game...


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