I agree

But they've only thrown it 24 times the last 2 games. They need to throw it more but to do that they need to run more olays, more first downs.

In short, the qb needs to be better throwing the ball

He had 100 looks last season averaging between 6-7 looks a game. Where was your opinion then?

Typical Pest...

You predict a Chiefs loss every single week then make excuses for your incorrect predictions. When will you learn?

I've actually predicted 5 of the Chiefs 6 games correctly this year.

Missed on the Raiders game.

You see, part of your problem is you think I think the Chiefs are just the worst team ever. They're not. They're just exceedingly mediocre.

And to some of us that is worse. You of course cannot comprehend this because you've "been a Chiefs fan" for about 50 games.

Write down your predictions for the next 10 games

Raiders average 26 PPG and the Saints average 29.

We held them to 10 and 21 points without our best player. GTFO with this mediocre defense bullshit

Saints just didn't hand us turnovers our players made great heads up plays. There was no butt fumble or tebowesque ducks being thrown.

The Chiefs give up 4.5 yards per rush (23rd), 6.7 net yards per pass attempt (21st), and 5.8 yards per play (20th).

Calling them mediocre is being kind. The worst is yet to come because turnovers aren't always going to bail them out and defenses are generally ahead of offenses early in the season.

Also, this isn't being talked about: our third down defense is TERRIBLE. Only two teams have allowed a higher conversion rate.

This might be a bad defense. Keep in mind they're also DEAD LAST in sacks.

@ Colts L
Jaguars W
@ Panthers L
Bucs W
@ Broncos L
@ Falcons L
Oakland L
Titans W
Broncos W
@ Chargers W

9-7 baby...how sweet it is

Remember everyone, being 2nd in the league in turnover differential since 2013 is just luck.

Yeah, fantasy football is why the non-homers realize we're not going anywhere with this embarrassment of an offense. ROFL

http://www.advancedfootballanalytics...-nfl-turnovers

Clay is just trying to make excuses and troll at this point.

While its understandable to be disappointed (I am), it isnt a major issue for me as long as we're winning

I'd bet Jeremy and Travis feel the exact same way as well

A hallmark of the Marty teams. He and Reid are great at winning regular season games.

Although Reid not quite as good. He's kind of like discount Marty. Marty lite. With a worse offense.

Even the Bono/Grbac Chiefs had higher-ranked offenses than this one. :facepalm:

I remind you to stay strong, and true to your word.

We give up a ton of yards which lead to scoring opportunities for the other team.

We tend to do a good job of stiffening up in the red zone and forcing turnovers but those are fickle and can't be counted on.

When Reid finally pulls the trigger on a deep ball slingin, steely eyed shootout artist... no one will be happier than I

Until then... just enjoy the wins, ASS

Agree with this, I just think we have a better chance to win by putting the ball in our best players' hands more often. It's rudimentary really, baseball puts their best players at the top of the lineup, basketball asks their best players to shoot the most, etc. I understand that's easier said than done as the defense can try to take things away, but as we've all discussed repeatedly, sometimes it seems we're trying to be too smart for our own good.

Maclin and Kelce didn't have a problem getting stats with Alex Smith at QB last year.

And post them over at the mane.

Why is it that Alex fans believe that being happy for wins and being concerned about certain underperforming aspects of the team (passing offense) are things that cannot happen simultaneously?

I dont have an argument with this at all, totally agree that its been disappointing thus far and I'd hope they can ramp up our stars production in the next 10 games

Yet I'm not really gonna get the redass about it until it starts costing us games... if we lose to the Colts and Jaguars because Thomas and Wilson are getting too many targets and crapping the bed with those opportunities, THEN its time to get mad

It already cost us a game in Houston, almost cost us the opener, and could have resulted in a loss last week if it wasn't for two turnovers and a game-sealing boneheaded penalty.

This team can only be ranked in the 20s for passing, rushing, passing defense and rushing defense so long before it starts resulting in a lot of ugly Ws.

The passing offense hardly turns over the ball and completes over 2/3 of intended passes. Tell me how that isn't efficient football when paired with a stout running game.

I'll wait.

Dummy. That's 7th place having played one less game than 6 teams ahead of us in the AFC.

You were crowing about points per drive all offseason.

The Chiefs rank 18th in that stat this year.

Being below average isn't efficient.

Yea we'll see where they stand 10 games from now kid.

ROFL

You spent all offseason hyping this QB and offense and now you want to wait 10 more games...a few days after they put up 17 against the worst D in football...at home.

When will you sack up and admit it's another wasted year of pedestrian offense under Alex Smith?

Game 8? 10? 12?

4-2 in contention for a first round bye. That's all that matters you imbecile. Twitter still hates you, shouldn't you go defend your reputation over there too

I wont spend much time arguing against that, we squeaked out two wins that easily could've been losses

It HAS to improve, there is no question about it, and yes, the primary catalyst behind that needed improvement is Smith... just because Reid calls a play with a short pass as the primary read, doesnt mean Smith has to go with that first read

At the same time though, you're argument consists mostly of things that didnt happen "well we could've lost", "well we should've lost"... the only problem is we DIDNT lose

Right now, I'm simply counting on the same arc as last year, slowly becoming more and more efficient as the season wears on, Smith gradually surprising us with more and more downfield passing, and hopefully... taking that to a new level

Smith is the QB, like it or not... so why not hope for the best, and use past bests along with the expectation of improvement on those bests, as a reason for optimism?

I'll give you a starting point for optimism...

2 games in a row with a ypc of 10 or more yards, you're always railing about that... well look at the last two weeks and be glad

We are the 6 seed right now. That is not "in contention" for anything.

ROFL we have only played six games so you can't do true playoff standings with teams that have already played 7

So. Ignorant.

Constantly embarrassing yourself.

Clay being clay.

(I've said it before) The success Alex Smith had in San Fran with Harbaugh coaching him was handing off to Gore and he gouged defenses then teams try at might to stop the run and they playaction to TE Vernon Davis. They didn't complicate the offense but it was effective I do believe because Gore was a beast and Vernon Davis made plays.

We could be doing that all day with Ware and Kelce and now with a deep threat #10 to keep defenses honest we should be ****ing teams up.

But no because Alex Smith and Andy Reid


Teams really don't want to face us when we are running the ball effectively but they don't have to worry about it because Andy Reid likes passing on every down with no care of first down marker or to the goal line. We used to run run pas punt now it's pass pass pass punt or kick a field goal.

Troll.

Kelce has been producing.

Are you guys not watching Catching Kelce?

The scary part about this is that the Chiefs have lucked out playing utter trash defenses and still look impotent.

Despite the fortune of playing vs Alex Smith, the opposing defenses rank:

32nd
30th
28th
26th
24th
2nd (ridiculously inflated due to facing Cutler, Smith, Brisset, Mariota, Bradford, Luck and Semen)

...and Smith still looks like a scared, ****ing awful QB. It's genuinely debatable if Smith could imitate a franchise QB vs Alabama, never mind teams like Denver.

ROFL

Fortunately for Alex our schedule is full of terrible defenses.

Here are the best:

9th
13th
3rd
10th
3rd

That's it. Every single other team is below average or worse. Most are in the 20s. ROFL

There are absolutely NO excuses for him not to BLOW UP the rest of the year. AMIRITE

6 seeds win super bowls more often lately.

6 seeds with HOF QBs...

Here's your best-case scenario for the Alex Smith era, based on NFL history of wild-card teams getting to the Super Bowl:

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopo...riots-1986.jpg

He's certainly no Roethlisberger or Rodgers. Or even Eli.

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do not recant

I couldn't agree more. Alex holds our play makers back and will end this teams season most likely when he fails to get us tot eh end zone. Jets defense is trash but we have dog did jack shit against them. Pitt and Saints same story. It's nice to have a winning record but we have big problems on offense.

Great take TuckandTapedaddy you dumbass

You're the dumbass and every other person that thinks Smith is good enough. We don't score worth a shit and it's his fault. If the defense doesn't help us a lot we don't win. He had a great 4th against SD and as had made a few nice plays but he still is the same as ever.

Around here it's the same old bs. Smith doesn't throw picks and has a winning record so we should all be happy. He hasn't won the division and can't lead us to victory against real contenders. We have played 3 horrible defenses, beat two of them but certainly not because Smith just tore it up on the score board.

I don't hate Smith at all but you'd be hard presses to find a starter in the league that scores less. Our offense is towards the bottom in scoring again and we need a change next season at QB.

Why not because of just Andy Reid?

By your own words, we could do it if our OC would just call the play to do it. Alex Smith has already done it in San Fran.


Andy Reid is overrated all to ****, he's an average OC who hasn't develop shit at QB in KC. He doesn't have any kind of feel for what to call in a game. There's a reason why our offense got better when Pederson took over partial playcalling last year.

The sooner Reid drops the OC from his title the better.

It's not the play calling dude. I can start posting video's from the Saints game where Alex left big play potential on the field.

Don't post anything critical of the team or else Bob Dole will ban you.

I'd assume this has already been covered but most rushes are given to Ware, and in the passing tame there is no "hard target." We distribute the ball to everyone from Baby-Gronk to Maclin to DAT to West to Black-Jedi to Hill...

stalker alert

I've seen your ****ing gifs (which really aren't all-22 btw)


Alex Smith has done it before
We have talent to do it here
Insert some make-believe reason why we aren't doing it now

Alex Smith doing it sparingly isn't the same as doing it before. Yeah, he's done it once before. We need him to do it consistently now.

And it is the all 22. There are a couple all 22 views IIRC, the high view and the high endzone view.

But also, as a positive, it is awesome that they're atleast pushing it down field now, completions or not. That will only help open up the under game and such and make it better later.

Alex can and needs to do better.

I'm not expecting 300 yrds a game - I expect him to make the most of his opportunities...

Have you considered that maybe our running game is effective because Reid uses a lot of mis-direction, cut backs, reverses/Fake reverses as well as mixing in the passing game?

And that maybe our running game wouldn't be as effective w/o those elements? When you watch the Chiefs run compared to how other teams run you'll probably see that the Chiefs employ a very creative running game based on deception. They're not a team that just lines up and plays smash mouth football. Their goal is to confuse the LB's which opens up holes on the 2nd level. Short passes and screens are a big part of that. Keeping the defense honest matters.

Stalker alert? Do you plan on stalking me?

If you've seen the gifs, then you've seen the missed reads at times.


edit: beat me to it..

You will have to adequately prove where Smith is looking at each point of a play. Clearly identify the order of each target progression. Note how much time Smith could have had in pass protection to locate and hit each target. Note whether each route was run crisply, or whether a target was rerouted/hindered in any way. You will have to document this in second by second frames.

Now go. Let us see what you have.

... oh, and almost forgot... for comparison's sake, you are tasked with showing the other QBs in the same manner.. and note how often they miss their opportunities.

carry on... sounds like a lot of work.

It's post like that that make things bad for you. It's a dumb post. good job.

Piece of cake.. :D

Does Alex pay your bills? Do you have a child by him or are you trying to?
You are one strange Smith stalker.

Once you've complied those numbers can you calculate how they relate to not throwing a single WR touchdown for an entire NFL season?

Hey look- Hill getting 8 yards of cushion, kelce iso'd with no safety help. Kelce breaks his man's ankles and is wide open. Passes to Hill for TD. :D

Didn't even look towards kelce post snap, just stared at safety and threw blindly to Hill.

Not nitpicking.. just sayin'

Probably Andy Reid. Most of our games the first half of the season are against lower-half-of-the-league teams. So we dial back the offense in order to not put a whole lot on tape prior to November 27. At which point we may be 7-3 or 8-2 and legitimately in contention for home field. I think that's also why we've seen them take their foot off the gas so early in games.

I don't agree with that, but it's what I suspect. They're doing just enough to win while hiding as much as they can. Which is why there hasn't been a lot of focus on either Maclin or Kelce.

Although there is a good side to that, too: it means a lot of work for Conley, Hill, Wilson, Harris, etc. Almost like extended training camp.

I just question whether they'll actually be able to "dial it up" so to speak later on.

If you're talking about the guy at the bottom of the screen it was Kelce, but you are correct. That's certainly the better matchup.

Hill told reporters that Alex told him to run as fast as he could in the huddle. He was going to throw that pass to him regardless.

Then you go do the same for his good plays.

Thanks for the correction- need to put my old man glasses on :)

reporters confirmed for us that he is not making reads :D

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Clay has been muted again :clap::clap:ROFLROFLROFLROFL

Keep celebrating the injuries of our players you classless piece of scum