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Mr. Laz 11-20-2016 04:13 PM

I wonder how many tackles our front 7 missed today.

I wouldn't be surprised if it approached 20

MeatRock 11-20-2016 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12567033)
No you stupid mother****er.

We should have scored more than 2 TDs offense, and one those TDs we failed to score was directly on Smith.

We also failed to convert third downs to keep the chains moving until that final TD drive, and much of that failure lies squarely at the feet of Alex Smith.

This was total team loss, including a mediocre performance by Alex Smith.

Two or three plays does not excuse crap for the rest of the game.

The mother****er cannot wrap his brain around any of it. It's unreal.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 11-20-2016 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12567033)
No you stupid mother****er.

We should have scored more than 2 TDs offense, and one those TDs we failed to score was directly on Smith.

We also failed to convert third downs to keep the chains moving until that final TD drive, and much of that failure lies squarely at the feet of Alex Smith.

This was total team loss, including a mediocre performance by Alex Smith.

Two or three plays does not excuse crap for the rest of the game.

So when Reid calls for 3 runs in a row to open up the 2nd series leading to a punt, that's on Smith? Cool. Or how Kelce missed a pass that could've went for a TD... Your dumbshittery needs to be wiped and flushed for eternity

Smith played a game that we can expect from him. The defense was pitiful.

MeatRock 11-20-2016 04:16 PM

If this happened instead of this that happened in the 2nd quarter instead of the 4th quarter bullshit. What in the actual ****? The thing is, is that the Defense was hamstrung by injuries. Smith could have stepped up and delivered and he shat down his ****ing leg at the most crucial time in the game.

Mr. Laz 11-20-2016 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatRock (Post 12567049)
If this happened instead of this that happened in the 2nd quarter instead of the 4th quarter bullshit. What in the actual ****? The thing is, is that the Defense was hamstrung by injuries. Smith could have stepped up and delivered and he shat down his ****ing leg at the most crucial time in the game.

This thread is about defense you stupid mother ****er.

If you want to endlessly bitch about Alex Smith then go to a thread about the offense.

idiotic,reeruned,inbred bitch

:rolleyes:

TigeRRUppeRRcut 11-20-2016 04:19 PM

We scored 3 times (FG, TD, INT, TD) on the 6 drives Reid allowed Smith to throw the ball.
One possession was a 3 and out. The other possession went 39 yards before being stopped which set up Colquitt to land the ball on Tampa Bay's 4, giving us control of field position.

now tell me, what faults did Smith have all day long that was on the level of our defense giving up 19 passing first downs??

Logic beats dumbshittery.

milkman 11-20-2016 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12567046)
So when Reid calls for 3 runs in a row to open up the 2nd series leading to a punt, that's on Smith? Cool. Or how Kelce missed a pass that could've went for a TD... Your dumbshittery needs to be wiped and flushed for eternity

Did I say all of the blame, you dumb son of a bitch?

Quote:

Smith played a game that we can expect from him. The defense was pitiful.
Whether that's true or not, given that this was his second best game this season, the fact that is good enough for you speaks volumes about your intelligence.

MeatRock 11-20-2016 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12567054)
This thread is about defense you stupid mother ****er.

If you want to endlessly bitch about Alex Smith then go to a thread about the offense.

idiotic,reeruned,inbred bitch

:rolleyes:

**** you. The thread spun into the Defense is to blame thread and i disagree, bitch. The offense ****ed up and when the Defense needed offense the most.

New World Order 11-20-2016 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12567056)
We scored 3 times (FG, TD, INT, TD) on the 6 drives Reid allowed Smith to throw the ball.
One possession was a 3 and out. The other possession went 39 yards to set up Colquitt to land the ball on Tampa Bay's 4.

now tell me, what exactly did Smith do to lose all day long that was on the level of our defense giving up 19 passing first downs??

Logic beats dumbshittery.


They gave up 19 points you ****ing moron. 7 of those on a short field.

Alex cost us the game with that awful interception.

Bob Dole 11-20-2016 04:21 PM

Scan anyone, ANYONE, explain the TO at 2nd and 11 before the half?

TigeRRUppeRRcut 11-20-2016 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatRock (Post 12567049)
If this happened instead of this that happened in the 2nd quarter instead of the 4th quarter bullshit. What in the actual ****? The thing is, is that the Defense was hamstrung by injuries. Smith could have stepped up and delivered and he shat down his ****ing leg at the most crucial time in the game.

And the offense is missing their 11 million dollar receiver and 9 million dollar running back.

Common sense.

rabblerouser 11-20-2016 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MeatRock (Post 12567040)
The mother****er cannot wrap his brain around any of it. It's unreal.

I have him on ignore for a reason - he is literally not worth communicating with on any level.

kcpasco 11-20-2016 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 12567061)
Scan anyone, ANYONE, explain the TO at 2nd and 11 before the half?

Andy must have thought the defense was playing well.

Bob Dole 11-20-2016 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12567059)
They gave up 19 points you ****ing moron. 7 of those on a short field.

Alex cost us the game with that awful interception.

You mean the tipped ball doing what people would be bitching about if he didn't do?

Yeah yeah milkman. Bob Dole read it.

milkman 11-20-2016 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12567056)
We scored 3 times (FG, TD, INT, TD) on the 6 drives Reid allowed Smith to throw the ball.
One possession was a 3 and out. The other possession went 39 yards to set up Colquitt to land the ball on Tampa Bay's 4.

now tell me, what faults did Smith have all day long that was on the level of our defense giving up 19 passing first downs??

Logic beats dumbshittery.

There is no ****ing logic in this stupid ****ing post.

The defense gave up 19 points.

The offense scored 17.

In spite of everything else, the fact remains that the offense failed.

The offense led by a mediocre QB.

rabblerouser 11-20-2016 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 12567061)
Scan anyone, ANYONE, explain the TO at 2nd and 11 before the half?

No.

I was baffled then, and I'm baffled now.

Just more 2 min ineptitude from Reid.

Led directly to TB getting a FG.

Classic Andy.

Mr. Laz 11-20-2016 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 12567066)
Andy must have thought the defense as playing well.

The defense didn't stop the passing of Tampa the entire game.

Occasionally Winston threw some shitty passes which led to punts but we didn't stop shit.

Reid has no idea how to use timeouts.

milkman 11-20-2016 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 12567067)
You mean the tipped ball doing what people would be bitching about if he didn't do?

Yeah yeah milkman. Bob Dole read it.

Nor arguing with a moron of your level.

rabblerouser 11-20-2016 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12567068)
There is no ****ing logic in this stupid ****ing post.

The defense gave up 19 points.

The offense scored 17.

In spite of everything else, the fact remains that the offense failed.

The offense led by a mediocre QB.

He won't understand. He's a ****ing moron.

New World Order 11-20-2016 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 12567067)
You mean the tipped ball doing what people would be bitching about if he didn't do?

Yeah yeah milkman. Bob Dole read it.


Huh?

It's a pick even if the ball isn't tipped.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 11-20-2016 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12567068)
There is no ****ing logic in this stupid ****ing post.

The defense gave up 19 points.

The offense scored 17.

In spite of everything else, the fact remains that the offense failed.

The offense led by a mediocre QB.

How is the offense supposed to score points if they don't have the ball and TB controls time of possession? Like I said Smith only had one possession that was a 3 and out and the other drive he set up colquitt to land the ball at the 4 yard line. He scored on 3 other drives which included 2 touchdowns and a missed TD opportunity by Kelce which resulted in 3. That's more than decent if you ask me.

I am just trying to compare facts, but you are giving me little to work with.

Mr. Laz 11-20-2016 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MeatRock (Post 12567058)
**** you. The thread spun into the Defense is to blame thread and i disagree, bitch. The offense ****ed up and when the Defense needed offense the most.

Only because morons like you just cannot talk about anything but Alex Smith.

Dumbasses know so little about football that you can't comprehend anything beyond "QB misses pass, team loses game, me angry" Meatrock

:shake:

rabblerouser 11-20-2016 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12567073)
The defense didn't stop the passing of Tampa the entire game.

Occasionally Winston threw some shitty passes which led to punts but we didn't stop shit.

Reid has no idea how to use timeouts.

Reid also doesn't know when to run...

He also doesn't know when NOT to run.

Reid is pretty much abysmal. Dorsey has assembled a deep and talented roster...and the offensive coaching is simply subpar.

kcpasco 11-20-2016 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12567073)
The defense didn't stop the passing of Tampa the entire game.

Occasionally Winston threw some shitty passes which led to punts but we didn't stop shit.

Reid has no idea how to use timeouts.

Yeah that's why I couldn't believe he called a timeout. The secondary without Peters is absolute trash but Andy thought he could force a punt so he could take a knee and run out the clock himself. Andy Reid is his own worst enemy.

TEX 11-20-2016 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12567070)
We scored 3 times (FG, TD, INT, TD) on the 6 drives Reid allowed Smith to throw the ball.
One possession was a 3 and out. The other possession went 39 yards to set up Colquitt to land the ball on Tampa Bay's 4.
So out of 6 drives, Smith had one that harmed the team.

This is all I have to say. If you can't comprehend, call your Mom.

Only one bomb was dropped on Hiroshima...

TigeRRUppeRRcut 11-20-2016 04:27 PM

If you're going to sit and moan about Smith's first red zone interception in almost 30 games, you have serious problems.

Mr. Laz 11-20-2016 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 12567089)
Reid also doesn't know when to run...

He also doesn't know when NOT to run.

Reid is pretty much abysmal. Dorsey has assembled a deep and talented roster...and the coaching is simply subpar.

FYP


(imo the talent on defense is better than our results as well)

MeatRock 11-20-2016 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12567073)
The defense didn't stop the passing of Tampa the entire game.

Occasionally Winston threw some shitty passes which led to punts but we didn't stop shit.

Reid has no idea how to use timeouts.

Could that be because the ****ing Defense had Ford, Peters and Howard out for the game. A rusty Houston. It's always the Defense's fault for not stopping opponents. It can't be Offensive production to help TOP and actually score at critical times in the game w/o turnovers.

New World Order 11-20-2016 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12567081)
How is the offense supposed to score points if they don't have the ball and TB controls time of possession? Like I said Smith only had one possession that was a 3 and out and the other drive he set up colquitt to land the ball at the 4 yard line. He scored on 3 other drives which included 2 touchdowns and a missed TD opportunity by Kelce which resulted in 3. That's more than decent if you ask me.

I am just trying to compare facts, but you are giving me little to work with.


By not throwing it to the other team.

Mother****erJones 11-20-2016 04:28 PM

No Peters, Bailey, Howard and Dee Ford left early. What ya think was going to happen?

petegz28 11-20-2016 04:29 PM

BTW, I love these lurkers that don't ever say shit but will deal out neg reps, etc.

Mr. Laz 11-20-2016 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 12567090)
Yeah that's why I couldn't believe he called a timeout. The secondary without Peters is absolute trash but Andy thought he could force a punt so he could take a knee and run out the clock himself. Andy Reid is his own worst enemy.

It was just beyond stupid.

Our defense was struggling
Our offense can't move the ball quickly even when it's not playing shitty

Yet Reid thought he should call a timeout and try to score quickly.

He is just clueless.

MeatRock 11-20-2016 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12567093)
If you're going to sit and moan about Smith's first red zone interception in almost 30 games, you have serious problems.

How many TD throws does Smith have on the year going into week 11? Exactly!

BryanBusby 11-20-2016 04:30 PM

Are we seriously trying to give Alex a pass on that INT? It was getting picked tipped or not and that target was doubled before he ever threw it. That was stupid.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 11-20-2016 04:30 PM

I love putting the morons in their place. You know you've won an argument when the other guy is going :

"**** you ******** moron. ***** it's so obvious. **** Smith and his stellar ball protection ..... we should have drafted Geno!! "

notorious 11-20-2016 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatRock (Post 12567104)
How many TD throws does Smith have on the year going into week 11? Exactly!

Hidden touchdowns bro.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 11-20-2016 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 12567102)
BTW, I love these lurkers that don't ever say shit but will deal out neg reps, etc.

To hell with those deplorables. You get pos rep from me for using your noggin

New World Order 11-20-2016 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12567108)
I love putting the morons in their place. You know you've won an argument when the other guy is going :

"**** you ******** moron. ***** it's so obvious. **** Smith and his stellar ball protection ..... we should have drafted Geno!! "


The defense gave up 19. 7 of those points was on a short field because of Alex's costly interception.

You haven't put anyone in their place.

petegz28 11-20-2016 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 12567100)
No Peters, Bailey, Howard and Dee Ford left early. What ya think was going to happen?

Dude we saw similar the last couple weeks. The Jags ran all over us and if it weren't for Bortels being Bortels we lose that game.

Last week we stiffened against the run but Cam lit us up early. We finally got pressure on him and won but still...

The defense has feasted on turnovers more than anything. They aren't "stopping" people in the classic sense. We needed a stop or two today and they couldn't do it.

3rd & long, didn't matter. TB converted 3rd downs at an alarming rate.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 11-20-2016 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12567086)
Only because morons like you just cannot talk about anything but Alex Smith.

Dumbasses know so little about football that you can't comprehend anything beyond "QB misses pass, team loses game, me angry" Meatrock

:shake:

ROFL

TEX 11-20-2016 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 12567100)
No Peters, Bailey, Howard and Dee Ford left early. What ya think was going to happen?

Good point. And still the defense only gave up one TD. This is year 4 with the same QB and offensive system. Offense should be better. Its not. There's a reason for that...

KevB 11-20-2016 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12567093)
If you're going to sit and moan about Smith's first red zone interception in almost 30 games, you have serious problems.

Considering how conservative we are throwing in the red zone, I'm not sure that's terribly impressive

TigeRRUppeRRcut 11-20-2016 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 12567115)

3rd & long, didn't matter. TB converted 3rd downs at an alarming rate.

Yep. Chiefs were 50% on third down, Tampa Bay was 69%. The NFL average is 39%

Bucs only had to punt twice all day long. That is ridiculous.

stevieray 11-20-2016 04:35 PM

both squads sucked on third downs.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 11-20-2016 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevB (Post 12567125)
Considering how conservative we are throwing in the red zone, I'm not sure that's terribly impressive

And over that time span we have one of the best records in the league despite being in one of the most competitive divisions in all of football. Reid/Smith must be doing something right. That's why they get the millions...

MeatRock 11-20-2016 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12567086)
Only because morons like you just cannot talk about anything but Alex Smith.

Dumbasses know so little about football that you can't comprehend anything beyond "QB misses pass, team loses game, me angry" Meatrock

:shake:

Wrong again. I know so little about football, yet i understand when a defense is ****ed up with injuries and an offense needs to win some games and take some TOP away from the opponent by being better on third downs.
Jesus christ. Laz telling people about football when the dude has the worst takes on football. :rolleyes:

petegz28 11-20-2016 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatRock (Post 12567134)
Wrong again. I know so little about football, yet i understand when a defense is ****ed up with injuries and an offense needs to win some games and take some TOP away from the opponent by being better on third downs.
Jesus christ. Laz telling people about football when the dude has the worst takes on football. :rolleyes:

Injuries or not, dude we missed a shitload of tackles today.

kcpasco 11-20-2016 04:39 PM

The offense is also missing their starting guard, number 1 wr and rb.

MeatRock 11-20-2016 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 12567140)
Injuries or not, dude we missed a shitload of tackles today.

I agree, but the defense can't play lights out every game. It's just not going to happen. When is our offense going to put a game on its back? When?

Discuss Thrower 11-20-2016 04:40 PM

It's the defense's fault they couldn't keep the other team under 10 points.

KevB 11-20-2016 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 12567117)
Good point. And still the defense only gave up one TD. This is year 4 with the same QB and offensive system. Offense should be better. Its not. There's a reason for that...

Exactly, with the defense hurting, the offense needed to step up. Alex isn't that guy if he isn't going to be a threat with his legs. Otoh, our running game should also be criticized. We haven't run well since the Oakland game.

petegz28 11-20-2016 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatRock (Post 12567147)
I agree, but the defense can't play lights out every game. It's just not going to happen. When is our offense going to put a game on its back? When?

I am more pissed about the BS call on 1st & Goal and to a lesser extent, the dropped pass by Kelce more than I am the Smith INT. Smith throws so few INT's I am not going to be mad at him for trying to make something happen.

Though he bares some blame for the loss because of it.

oaklandhater 11-20-2016 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 12567141)
The offense is also missing their starting guard, number 1 wr and rb.

Can we stop saying we are missing our number 1 rb Jc is done ware is number 1 now and for the foreseeable future

MeatRock 11-20-2016 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 12567155)
I am more pissed about the BS call on 1st & Goal and to a lesser extent, the dropped pass by Kelce more than I am the Smith INT. Smith throws so few INT's I am not going to be mad at him for trying to make something happen.

Though he bares some blame for the loss because of it.

Yet Smith doesn't score enough touchdowns to warrant the terrible Interceptions he throws at crucial times either.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 11-20-2016 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 12567155)
I am more pissed about the BS call on 1st & Goal and to a lesser extent, the dropped pass by Kelce more than I am the Smith INT. Smith throws so few INT's I am not going to be mad at him for trying to make something happen.

Though he bares some blame for the loss because of it.

Ditto.

Buns 11-20-2016 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12567081)
Like I said Smith only had one possession that was a 3 and out and the other drive he set up colquitt to land the ball at the 4 yard line.

What the **** does this mean??? QB setting up the punter?

Reerun_KC 11-20-2016 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Virtua Chief (Post 12567179)
What the **** does this mean??? QB setting up the punter?

Wait what?

New World Order 11-20-2016 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Virtua Chief (Post 12567179)
What the **** does this mean??? QB setting up the punter?


LMAO

Tigerbob thinks the job of a quarterback is to set the punter up so he can give the defense good field position.

notorious 11-20-2016 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Virtua Chief (Post 12567179)
What the **** does this mean??? QB setting up the punter?

ROFL

MeatRock 11-20-2016 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Virtua Chief (Post 12567179)
What the **** does this mean??? QB setting up the punter?

ROFL

TigeRRUppeRRcut 11-20-2016 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatRock (Post 12567134)
Wrong again. I know so little about football, yet i understand when a defense is ****ed up with injuries and an offense needs to win some games and take some TOP away from the opponent by being better on third downs.
Jesus christ. Laz telling people about football when the dude has the worst takes on football. :rolleyes:

Yet we still have parker, berry, Poe, Houston (fwiw), Ford (half game) and guys who have made big plays this season in Nelson and Sorenson. It's not like we were up against the Saints or Falcons.

Tell me how that isn't enough to at least keep the Bucs to a league average on 3rd down percentage?


Please explain

Mr. Laz 11-20-2016 04:53 PM

The only thing that makes blackbob annoying is the stupid ****ers who can't stop arguing with him.

He is just another homer until the obsessed guys go nuts about him.

Just use ignore instead and make the board better for everyone ...... please.

KevB 11-20-2016 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12567131)
And over that time span we have one of the best records in the league despite being in one of the most competitive divisions in all of football. Reid/Smith must be doing something right. That's why they get the millions...

We can without question be a competitive team with this formula. We're not winning a Super Bowl this way though. And most people know it.

oaklandhater 11-20-2016 04:53 PM

Holy shit defending Alex by saying he set up the punter you're such a joke tiger. LMAO

notorious 11-20-2016 04:54 PM

Brady sucks at setting up the punter.

FringeNC 11-20-2016 04:54 PM

We almost stole another one despite getting outplayed. Third down conversion differential was the story of the game. Some of that is luck, but not all of it.

This is one of the VERY few losses of the Reid era where the O-line didn't get dominated. (Unfortunately, the defense did.) It's weird losing games when Alex isn't running for his life.

It's now going to be harder to get the #2 seed, unfortunately, which is a pretty big ****ing deal.

MeatRock 11-20-2016 04:54 PM

****ing bizzaro land. That's what we get though, a QB setting up a punter. Holy mother of christ.

mcaj22 11-20-2016 04:54 PM

you're really grasping at straws if your defense of Alex Smith is some invisible stat where he sets up the punter.

10 weeks in and that's the type of excuses we are getting. I can't wait for next weeks creative out for Alex Smith

MeatRock 11-20-2016 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12567200)
Yet we still have parker, berry, Poe, Houston (fwiw), Ford (half game) and guys who have made big plays this season in Nelson and Sorenson. It's not like we were up against the Saints or Falcons.

Tell me how that isn't enough to at least keep the Bucs to a league average on 3rd down percentage?


Please explain

How long was the Defense on the field today? How many 3 and outs did the offense have including a turnover taken to the 50 yard line? Get bent.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 11-20-2016 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevB (Post 12567203)
We can without question be a competitive team with this formula. We're not winning a Super Bowl this way though. And most people know it.

Then again we went into Foxboro last season without a healthy Houston, Ware, Maclin, and Charles and made it a competitive game.

Reid and Dorsey put the pieces there but there is only so much in their control. Injuries have hampered us but unlike the Chargers, we sit at 7-3 competing for a first round bye.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 11-20-2016 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatRock (Post 12567213)
How long was the Defense on the field today? How many 3 and outs did the offense have including a turnover taken to the 50 yard line? Get bent.

You're late to the party. Go home scrub.

rabblerouser 11-20-2016 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12567099)
By not throwing it to the other team.

Yeah, especially in the end zone, when even a FG can be enough to win...you try to throw to the guys on your team. Not the guys on the other team.

That's the most obvious way.

Bob Dole 11-20-2016 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12567200)
Yet we still have parker, berry, Poe, Houston (fwiw), Ford (half game) and guys who have made big plays this season in Nelson and Sorenson. It's not like we were up against the Saints or Falcons.

Tell me how that isn't enough to at least keep the Bucs to a league average on 3rd down percentage?


Please explain

Let's see... Nelson got pushed off the entire game, and when he tried to stand up to it, he got flagged. And Evans got a pass on a 2-hand shove on Parker, who had position, which would have moved them back on the Andy Reid field goal at the end of the half.

MeatRock 11-20-2016 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12567216)
You're late to the party. Go home scrub.

Get ****ed one who sucks the penis.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 11-20-2016 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 12567211)
you're really grasping at straws if your defense of Alex Smith is some invisible stat where he sets up the punter.

10 weeks in and that's the type of excuses we are getting. I can't wait for next weeks creative out for Alex Smith

If the offense moves the ball 39 yards but is held to 4th down, regardless of starting position, you have the opportunity to control field position and/or kick a field goal depending on where you start the drive. Is this hard to comprehend?

You realize football is a game of strategy that doesn't play under the rules of fantasy football, yea?

rabblerouser 11-20-2016 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 12567155)
I am more pissed about the BS call on 1st & Goal and to a lesser extent, the dropped pass by Kelce more than I am the Smith INT. Smith throws so few INT's I am not going to be mad at him for trying to make something happen.

Though he bares some blame for the loss because of it.

Andy Reid called a terrible game, encapsulated in that one particular play.

rabblerouser 11-20-2016 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 12567220)
Let's see... Nelson got pushed off the entire game, and when he tried to stand up to it, he got flagged. And Evans got a pass on a 2-hand shove on Parker, who had position, which would have moved them back on the Andy Reid field goal at the end of the half.

They picked the flag on Evans up, even though the foul was flagrant.

Mr. Laz 11-20-2016 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MeatRock (Post 12567134)
Wrong again. I know so little about football, yet i understand when a defense is ****ed up with injuries and an offense needs to win some games and take some TOP away from the opponent by being better on third downs.
Jesus christ. Laz telling people about football when the dude has the worst takes on football. :rolleyes:

Bitch, i've forgotten more than you'll ever know about football.

I know that the game of football is about more than just the QB.

People were talking about great Winston was today and yet change 2 plays and Alex Smith's numbers were almost exactly the same as his.

Passing _ Cmp Att Yds TDs Int
J. Winston 24 39 331 _ 1 _ 0
A. Smith _ 24 31 261 _ 1 _ 1

If the difference between great and 'shittiest ever' is only a tipped pass and a dropped ball then something else is wrong.

MeatRock 11-20-2016 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12567223)
If the offense moves the ball 39 yards but is held to 4th down, regardless of starting position, you have the opportunity to control field position and/or kick a field goal depending on where you start the drive. Is this hard to comprehend?

You realize football is a game of strategy that doesn't play under the rules of fantasy football, yea?

I'm glad we have a Quarterback that can set up our punter. Brilliant take on the game there tigerbob.:clap:

TigeRRUppeRRcut 11-20-2016 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 12567220)
Let's see... Nelson got pushed off the entire game, and when he tried to stand up to it, he got flagged. And Evans got a pass on a 2-hand shove on Parker, who had position, which would have moved them back on the Andy Reid field goal at the end of the half.

The officiating was easily the worst of the year. I usually go back and re-watch games to evaluate players but I just know the excessive no calls will tick me off.


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