He & Clay are the opposite sides of the same coin. I don't really care that Clay is banned....or back again....or banned.....or back again....but I'll never understand why Clay gets banned for the crap he does and then Blackbob gets to run around here spouting his nonsense.

This.

really though? You can't understand why one would be banned for wanting KC to lose and their player(s) to be injured? someone who shows up with glee to rub it in when KC struggles or loses?

I get that Tiger or Bob (or whoever he is) can be excessive with his comments... but FFS, at least he is wishing for wins and player health. :shrug:

He's doing the same thing that Clay does.....he's trolling the board and derailing threads.

I would bet TiggerUncleSuck has about 7-8 regular homer dumbshits that continually rep his every post. Much like Clay and his "minions".

POST UR REP LIST TROLLLLL

They both do the exact same thing. Derail threads with their bullshit. I'm sorry that you side with one over the other, doesn't mean that one should be banned while the other gets to stick around.

No. Not the exact same thing.

If they did they exact same thing, you would see Tiger or Bob joyously patting himself on the back when KC loses.

Can you tell me this happens?

You would see Tiger/Bob vocally praying for player injuries and team losses.

Can you tell me this happens?

I hate the playcalling at times. For instance, Hill should have gotten the ball in his hands somehow several more times. Kelce should get more targets. We are way better when we're fully aggressive and not playing the "prevent offense" where we try to eat up 9 minutes and use 3 downs to get a first all the way down the field. We always call a dumb play where we lost 5 yards or get a penalty and it puts our drives to a halt before we even start.

There needs to be some balance brought to CP.

So the problem really is Andy Reid.




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You do realize that none of that is against the TOS, right? Otherwise I would have been banned when I was calling for Smith to tear his ACL.

Cheering after losses isn't against the TOS either. Clay was banned because he's been banned in the past and after that it's up to the Mod's discretion.

Like I said, just because you are feel more closely to the views of one does not mean they are not causing the same sort of issues on the board. I'm not going to sit here and try to explain it to you because you'll never quite understand.

Need to run the Wildcat formation inside the 5 yard line.

Have a mod verify that it's from 40 different people

Because I support my team, am fairly critical of all positions/coaching, and provide stats that show this and last year's team are legit contenders...I should be banned?

Sorry if I provide level headedness to the conversation. If an angry poster doesn't like that I didn't support Daniels/Murray/Foles and comes at me, apparently I'm in the wrong for continuing the opposing view. This is too amusing

I thought that exact same thing when they had 3rd & goal. Why not go wildcat there with Ware faking or handing off to Tyreek?




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Beachtribe is mad. You related to Teicher? I'm nowhere like the other scum on this board calling for personal harm on someone or making awful sexual depictions. So you vote to keep those people around? Cool. Well I have never engaged in any quality discussion with you and don't plan to but thank you for taking five minutes out of your day for the drawn out, angry reply

Go Chiefs

No. Just no. He did NOT "single-handedly" win those games. He actually played like an NFL QB, for a change. Jesus, your standards and expectations of the KC Chiefs quarterback is just so ****ing low that one throw down the field for 20+ yards and everyone has a goddamn celebratory parade.

Never seen a fan base so elated and anxious to celebrate one of their player's mistakes

I don't think it's elation, but more anger driven towards the continued apologists. I don't hate Alex Smith, and genuinely want him to do well. But also want better for our team\franchise than he is capable of bringing.

But you have morons like kcchiefus who literally diminish every win and want us to perform poorly to prove a point... In the midst of another SB contending year. It's too bad Maclin and Houston went down last year, it would have shut the doubters up. The folks who hyped up Murray and Daniels in 2015 after starting 1-5... How have they done?

A vote to keep the doubters/naysayers is essentially a vote to rename this place 'donksplanet 2, where we want to be like them and want everything now because we're all envious and miserable human beings . '

Anything worth waiting for is worth having now.

Dinny

At the same time, you have individuals that refuse to acknowledge or discuss with reason glaring deficiencies on the team (in this case QB), no matter what. It goes both ways, and I think most people want to discuss... it's the few that approach these discussions with political fervor that fuel the heated divide and turn it all into a name-calling contest.

You have diminished the play of virtually every player but one. That's the issue people can't contend with.

Provide proof.

So when we are far below the league average on converting 1st downs, scoring, gaining yards (etc.), why is it never Alex and the offense's fault to you?

No offense but it really says something about your personality when a decent chunk of the board thinks they get along better with people who wish injuries on players or make sexual depictions about whatever than they can with you.

Part of me actually wants to see Alex Smith have a horrid, pants-shittingly, worst QB performance of all time just to see if that'll shut you up for a week.

It won't. You'll hear about:

1. The offensive line didn't give him long enough.
2. Reid's playcalling set him up for failure.
3. No running game.
4. His playmakers didn't help him out.

Have I said the offensive unit was excellent? I said they would be fine once they got Maclin back into the system. Unfortunately, our running game has taken an absolute nose dive compared to last year's standards. Smith's TD % is at its lowest since he's been a Chief, and a lot of that has to do with Maclin out and Reid's play calling. Look in the GDT, I was critical of Smith (especially mid range throws) and Reid. I was also critical of the defensive stand on the last drive. Blame goes all across the board.

Win as a team, lose a team. What I will NOT do is think like a simple minded gorilla and blame the QB for all of this team's issues.


So...you cherry-picking one comment to fit a narrative proves nothing.

20-4.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamoff

Offense has room for improvement but it's not as gloom and doom as you think it to be. Running was the strength of this team last year, in fact, this board was pimping Ware and crticial of Smith for "holding us back" in 2015. Funny how the narrative changes in 2016 and the offense is still top 12 in efficiency with a 10-4 team record but all people on here want to do is chase Smith out of town when he has clearly played a huge role in every single division game.

He's here to stay for at least another 13 months. Deal with it.

People always point to Smith's record, but he was on a Super Bowl caliber team in San Francisco, and, for the most part, a pretty talented team during his time in KC. It's not like he's been putting a team like the Browns on his shoulders and leading them to respectability.

I'm a huge Chiefs fan, and as such, I really want to like Alex as a player. But I just can't. I watched a replay of the Bears/Packers game last night. Other than 2 throws (his 3rd INT was on a Hail Mary at the end of the 1st half), Matt Barkley threw the ball downfield light-years better than Smith. He also steps up in the pocket better than Smith, who seems to shit himself at the first sign of pressure.

Smith's one redeemable quality as a QB was his ability to avoid the crucial interception. If he's not at least doing that (i.e. the Tampa and Tennessee games), he just doesn't bring anything to the table that some stiff off the scrap heap couldn't bring.

I have not heard a single person say Smith has put the team on his back. Not one. Now is he carrying his weight as a solid game manager getting paid well under the league average at $14 million/year over the course of 5 years? I would say a vast majority of the time.

You don't get to 20-4, win a playoff game, save a season doomed at 1-5 by playing like Cassel.

Yes it is the same thing. Tigeruppercut turns every goddamn thread into an Alex Smith apologist thread. Much in the same way Clay would make every thread an Alex Smith hatred thread.

If one gets banned for derailing threads the other should as well.

Wouldn't it be the shits if TigerUp is actually a Claynus mult? It would be like the ending of one of those movies where characters keep ripping off rubber masks that look like other characters in the film.

Then it turns out we were all Dane McCloud all along.

Dinny

c'mon man.. you really don't process what you read. I can't believe this isn't getting through to you. Anyone else know how to make it more clear?

Clay vocally expresses joy when KC loses or struggles. He vocally prays for injuries to KC players he doesn't like.

TU does nether of these things.

Despite the extreme siding and opinions (call it trolling if you really must) of the two... THE BOLDED ALONE clearly separates them.

Any chance you understand the distinction now?

No chief's fan thinks smith is as bad as cassel but that's not exactly a high bar.

Or if I was actually a Chiefs fan for the last 40 years, and hated the Alex Smith acquisition from day one?

I don't know if it would "be the shits"... whatever that means.. but for some, it would be masterful brilliance. To me, it would just be a pathetic waste of time and effort.

actually i have heard the ol' Alex Smith is the worst QB in history quite a few times

many people around here have repeatedly said that he is the worst QB in the NFL right now

and yet Smith's numbers are in line with the rest of the team

Same people say our defense is dominant and super bowl worthy


offense

23rd in yards
22nd in pass yards
23rd in rush yards
15th in points (imagine they include Defense/ST pts even though they shouldn't)
8th in giveaways

Defense
27th in total net yards
19th in passing yards
28th rush yards per game

8th points given up
1st takeaways
2nd in takeaway/giveaway

Alex Smith
Yards - 25th
Yards per attempt - 19th
Rating - 19th
TD - 28th
Completion % - 8th
interceptions(lowest) - 7th (some guys haven't started all year)

Then they are idiots. He is below average but not at the bottom.

Some around here have declared war on people for saying that Alex Smith is "just" below average.

I understand the distinction. What i am getting at is the derailing of threads to constantly state your opinions whether it is one extreme or the other. Derailing threads into Alex Smith threads.
Constantly starting Alex Smith threads for attention whoring purposes.

Unless you're going to draw it out in crayon, he's not going to understand

How do you derail a thread about Alex Smith if you're talking about Alex Smith.

Buehler??

I think just about even the most loyal homers are ready to move on from Alex or at least prepare to with a draft pick.

:facepalm:

Yes. About 10 per game and we got this.

Exactly.

...complaining about it now is a complete waste of time.

Agreed.

....white knighting him now is also a complete waste of time.

Also agreed on drafting an early QB for the near future.

redundant defending of him is equally as pointless as the redundant criticism though...

In terms of:

Which QB in Chiefs history has single-handedly ruined the Chiefs' otherwise strong potential?

It's Alex Whiff. And it's not even close.

Of course his fans would prefer to be more literal. He's definitely better than Tyler Thigpen, I'll give you that. He's not literally the worst. Hell yeah!

Playoffs 3 out of 4 years.
Ended playoff win drought.

...it could be a helluva lot worse, and has been...for a LONG time.

Any given Sunday....:)

"you dance with who you brung"


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ya, because all the other Chiefs QB's on the list have been something..whoo boy!

...all those great years of___________________

stevieray was a yuge Cassel fan four years ago, too.

You're nuts.

He scored 21 points in 5 quarters. He played like dog shit the majority of the game.

Winningest QB in Chiefs' Franchise History.. top 3 QB in win % the last 5 years. First time since the 90's that KC has four winning seasons consecutively.

18th ranked OL in both pass and run blocking.
13th in offensive pass dvoa.
21st in offensive rush dvoa.
7th worst team in drops.

25th in run D dvoa.
4th worst team D in stopping 3rd downs
5th worst team defense in yards (for those that judge the O by yards, you can't have it both ways)

1 blowout loss to Pitt and the other 3 losses all by an avr. of 3.6 points.

" This QB has single handedly wrecked this Franchise!!!!" :deevee:


HOLY SHIT! :facepalm:

nope...I'm a fan of the Chiefs.

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Great, so you've confirmed that KC could still be trotting out Cassel and you would still be defending that decision. Because Chiefs.


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No, I wouldn't praise/expect anything. Cassel had his shot.

...you really think this means something?


LMAO

Can we just delete every Alex smith thread and start over

I would not cry if Tigger fell head-first in to a vat of boiling piss and sulfuric acid.

And far more entertaining. Clay is actually funny, even hilarious at times. Black Bob just sucks Uncle dick.

I would bet you are correct.

"Alex Smith doesn't lose you games"

Until he starts throwing multiple picks in the endzone...

It was the defense's fault.

Well yeah they should have just stopped the Titans from scoring the field goal!!!!111

Look, the whole team is suspect after that Titans game. But, there is no denying that Smith has lost a step this year. Guys his age don't get better. He's not a fine wine, he's a NFL quarterback. He's turning to vinegar. Need a change at the position. I hope he can go out on a good note this year, play the way we have seen him play when he's on his game. If he plays AT HIS BEST, we have a shot. But if he plays the way he has all too often this year, we're one and done in the playoffs.

I like the guy, I really do. I think he's a quality individual, he knows the game and doesn't *typically* make mistakes. But he's prone to it, more this year than any year since he's been a Chief. I don't care about stats, I'm talking about the eye test. He's not the guy he was last season. Guys his age don't improve.

Dump the vinegar and get another QB...

Prove it

I am disappointed in reid because I thought smith was just a stop gap to respectability while he would draft a qb. They haven't invested serious draft picks on a qb yet .

they made it look easy.

....the cherry on top was the last lunge.

curious, how many times in four seasons?

Holy shit you people are delusional.

So the offense has no culpability for the loss considering they couldn't pick up 10 yards after the Titans failed on a 2 point conversion?

Then again they were only in the redzone because Smith threw a 44 year old bomb to Kelce to get there. Fact.

Some 3 and outs are worse than others. That may have been one of the worst ever for the chiefs.

The admins of this joint agree with Tiger's opinions, so they're not going to ban him.

But they do need a safe space from Clay it seems. Cause words hurt and what not.

It's not even opinions. It's having an ounce of common sense.

Or one of them is Uppercut, and is using the account for their own pleasure of pissing people off and troll.

boring.

...both units failed.

...it happens.

...you'll pout.