Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 12717135)

The screams more that they couldn't find anybody else. Nobody else qualified wanted the job.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12716920)

It's ****ing football. The guy has spent his entire life in football.

Good grief. He hasn't been hired to design the first hyperspace craft.

Originally Posted by Bigdaddy (Post 12717212)

Anything is better than Baalke.

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12717158)

Dude won't last a month with the new mod squad. Meanwhile, 12 years of Mule Tool ownership and counting...

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 12716584)

No ****ing way. Like. Not at all. ROFL. Thank god that isn't us.

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 12717537)

Do the worms in your brain coordinate or do they all dance to a different song?

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12717931)

They aren't pathetic enough to post on an opposing message board. Damn, that's pretty sad dude..

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12717975)

Doesn't change your patheticness, sorry.

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 12717994)

LOL. You wanted a Grbac autograph? ROFL

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 12717984)

John Lynch is a good dude and i wish him the best. Back when i was a kid John Lynch took my Chiefs Grbac jersey and sent it to Baltimore just to get it autographed for me.

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12718010)

Why did you get John Lynch to do it?

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 12717980)

Nah. It should be fairly obvious why I post here. It's a really good board and it's moderated well. I just like to screw with you occasionally because you're a homertarded ****wit.

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 12718017)

Because i was a homeless kid and John Lynch is somehow related to a Spanos, so he resided in San Diego and did a lot of charity work in the area. I met John through the Group home i was in and he saw me wearing my Chiefs Jersey. He told me he was close with the owners of the Ravens and he sent it off for me to get it autographed. Couple weeks later my Jersey showed up, signed and all.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12716920)

It's ****ing football. The guy has spent his entire life in football.

Good grief. He hasn't been hired to design the first hyperspace craft.

Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 12718453)

Every year GMs fail. Even very experienced GMs fail, like Pioli. It is a harder job than you make it out to be. Matt Millen was everything John Lynch is - spent his life playing football, then took a TV job, no FO experience. He is very possibly the worst GM in football history.

Name a GM with no scouting, coaching or FO experience that turned out good.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12718463)

John Elway

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12718463)

John Elway

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12718486)

John Elway is 17-15 without Peyton Manning.

Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 12718485)

Not true. He owned an arena team, was chairman of the AFL's executive committee, and was executive vice president of football operations for the Broncos before he became GM. John Lynch has done none of those things.

Try again.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12718502)

Arena League owner?

That's like being a sponsor for Youth Football.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12718486)

John Elway is 17-15 without Peyton Manning.

Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 12718579)

He ran an organization. What organization has John Lynch run? I notice you ignored that he was executive vice president of football operations before he was GM.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12718600)

For exactly one year in which he was the de facto GM.

Again, football isn't rocket science.

It's ****ing football.

Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 12718616)

If Dorsey leaves you would be ok with John Lynch running the Chiefs?

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12718627)

John Lynch has zero affiliation with the Chiefs.

The Chiefs haven't been a laughing stock for the past two seasons.

The Chiefs ownership is in far better standing than the 49ers.

Your analogy isn't sound.

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 12717146)

Elway had a football coach for a dad. He went to Stanford, majored in Economics. You're all familiar with his NFL career. He had his name on some car dealerships as a player but I don't think he had much of anything to do with actually running them at that point. He did terminate that contract eventually in order to open dealerships in is own name later that he would, presumably, have more to do with. He was fairly active in the Arena Football League as a co-owner and an executive for the life of the league. When he came back to the Broncos it was as VP of football operations, at the request of the owner after Josh McDouche destroyed the franchise. Over time he got rid of the previous GM and absorbed his job. He has continued to tinker with the organizational structure of the franchise. He attempts to surround himself with people who cover his weaknesses and get rid of people who don't perform. He was nowhere near as raw as Lynch is now and he still has had to learn as he goes. So...yeah. I don't think Lynch compares very well to Elway. We'll see what happens.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 12718682)

It's also worth mentioning that Elway wasn't just running the Colorado Crush. Pat Bowlen was mentoring him for 8 years or so. Undoubtedly teaching him the Broncos Way.

Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 12718686)

?

Cheat to win?

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 12718682)

It's also worth mentioning that Elway wasn't just running the Colorado Crush. Pat Bowlen was mentoring him for 8 years or so. Undoubtedly teaching him the Broncos Way.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12718694)

LMAO

John Elway IS the "Broncos Way".

Good grief.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 12718715)

You're claiming he had no experience and that the AFL job meant nothing. I would say learning how to run an AFL team under mentorship from the Broncos owner for 8 years really important experience. And running a business operation, whether it's the NFL or the AFL, is not easy work. I am sure Elway learned a ton about how Bowlen conducts business during those 8 years.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12718595)

The goalposts have been moved

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12718758)

No Dane I'm siting the facts. More facts:

-Elway signed all of the amazing FA's when Manning was in town
-Elway has been god awful in FA in in the 2 seasons Manning wasn't with the team
-Their C is the only above average offensive starter on the roster that was kdrafted by the team.
-Elway lost a great player bc of a FAX machine
-Elway had a complete meltdown with Von Miller bc he wanted to shortchange him
-He had a falling out with the QB he drafted
-his front office has had problems with moral character

Peyton Manning literally made everything easier for Elway. It's been night and day since in the years with and without him.

Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 12718746)

Dane said something stupid, and is now stubbornly sticking to it to the point of looking foolish, as Dane does. Dane is a good guy, but admitting he might be wrong is not something he does.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12718739)

I disagree with every post you've made since the day you joined

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 12718777)

You're the only person in this thread who thinks his lack of experience is no big deal. The only person.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12718784)

I couldn't care less what you all think.

Hasn't that been made clear over the last 16+ years?

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12719526)

Weakening the Broncos. I like it.

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...r-adam-peters/

49ers hire Broncos scouting director Adam Peters

The 49ers are wasting no time building a staff around new General Manager John Lynch.

According to Matt Maiocco of CSNBayArea.com, the 49ers have hired former Broncos personnel man Adam Peters as their vice president of player personnel.

Word emerged yesterday that Peters would interview with the 49ers, and that the Broncos college scouting director would not be blocked from making a move that did not include final say over the roster.

Peters is respected in the business, and it’s a good sign that Lynch is layering in people with the experience on the job that he lacks. There have been rumblings that former Buccaneers G.M. Mark Dominik could also be on the way, which should add more depth to their bench as they try to rebuild.

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 12719539)

I dunno. Looking at the last few years, I might want to keep the Broncos' drafting machinery in place. Is there a single guy on this list who would start for the Chiefs?

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12719546)

Peters was their top scout but any personnel decision began and ended with John Elway.

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 12719682)

Which players in those last four drafts would be a starter in Kansas City?

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12719690)

Matt Paradis, Bradley Roby, Corey Nelson, Shane Ray, Trevor Siemian, Max Garcia.

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12719690)

Matt Paradis, Bradley Roby, Corey Nelson, Shane Ray, Trevor Siemian, Max Garcia.

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 12719539)

I dunno. Looking at the last few years, I might want to keep the Broncos' drafting machinery in place. Is there a single guy on this list who would start for the Chiefs?

http://www.pro-football-reference.co.../den/draft.htm

2016
Rnd
1 Paxton Lynch
2 Adam Gotsis
3 Justin Simmons
4 Devontae Booker
5 Connor McGovern
6 Andy Janovich
6 Will Parks
7 Riley Dixon

2015
Rnd Player
1 Shane Ray
2 Ty Sambrailo
3 Jeff Heuerman
4 Max Garcia
5 Lorenzo Doss
6 Darius Kilgo
7 Trevor Siemian
7 Taurean Nixon
7 Josh Furman

2014
Rnd Player
1 Bradley Roby
2 Cody Latimer
3 Michael Schofield
5 Lamin Barrow
6 Matt Paradis
7 Corey Nelson

2013
Rnd Player
1 Sylvester Williams
2 Montee Ball
3 Kayvon Webster
5 Quanterus Smith
5 Tavarres King
6 Vinston Painter
7 Zac Dysert

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 12719682)

Well, then let's keep him in Denver.

I'm actually serious with this question. Which players in those last four drafts would be a starter in Kansas City? I don't see a single one who would be a clearcut choice.

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12719690)

Matt Paradis, Bradley Roby, Corey Nelson, Shane Ray, Trevor Siemian, Max Garcia.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12719705)

Shane Ray and Ty Sambraillo would definitely be starters. Sylvester Williams might be a starter but he'd definitely be in heavy rotation along the defensive line.

Bradley Roby would certainly be in the mix at CB and I'd take Heuerman over O'Shags, Ross Travis and Demetrious Harris, he off crucial drop fame.

So there's 4 guys and of course, Trevor Siemien, who would likely be sitting behind Alex Smith but he's a guy with serious upside.

Shaq Barrett was undrafted but I'd take him in a heartbeat.

But if you take a look around the league, the Chiefs are most certainly one of the better drafting teams in the NFL, which is why they've had 4 straight winning seasons.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12719712)

Ty Sambraillo? Did you watch the KC-DEN game?

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12719711)

There's no way that Paradis or Garcia would start in favor of Mitch Morse or hell, even Zach Fulton.

Roby wouldn't be a starter but he'd likely be a dime guy.

Who the **** is Corey Nelson?

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12719728)

Paradis really came on this year, he'd definitely start over Morse...

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12719728)

You guys severely underrate Roby because he had his worst game as a pro against you guys. But Roby would start for nearly every team in the league.

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12719728)

Corey Nelson is our nickle LB. He's not great, but neither are any of the Chiefs ILB's outside of DJ.

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12719881)

If that's the best he can do, Elway is a disaster. Manning brought in the team that won games. First off-season without him...train wreck.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12719913)

I'd hardly call it a trainwreck. They went 9-7 after the loss of their HoF QB.

Trainwreck is the Browns.

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 12719539)

I dunno. Looking at the last few years, I might want to keep the Broncos' drafting machinery in place. Is there a single guy on this list who would start for the Chiefs?

http://www.pro-football-reference.co.../den/draft.htm

2016
Rnd
1 Paxton Lynch
2 Adam Gotsis
3 Justin Simmons
4 Devontae Booker
5 Connor McGovern
6 Andy Janovich
6 Will Parks
7 Riley Dixon
Good punter and cheap. Would take over Colquitt's salary.
2015
Rnd Player
1 Shane Ray
Would have to say he would have started this year opposite Ford without question.
2 Ty Sambrailo
3 Jeff Heuerman
4 Max Garcia
5 Lorenzo Doss
6 Darius Kilgo
7 Trevor Siemian
7 Taurean Nixon
7 Josh Furman

2014
Rnd Player
1 Bradley Roby
Easily would have been the #2 CB this season for KC
2 Cody Latimer
3 Michael Schofield
5 Lamin Barrow
6 Matt Paradis
Becoming one of the best in the NFL.
7 Corey Nelson

2013
Rnd Player
1 Sylvester Williams
2 Montee Ball
3 Kayvon Webster
5 Quanterus Smith
5 Tavarres King
6 Vinston Painter
7 Zac Dysert

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 12722551)

That's literally all I got...

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12722566)

ROFL huge reach and even then none of those guys start in kc.

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 12722632)

You're starting to compete for 2nd place to Tigger as one of the top resident idiots.

That's homerism on an insane level.

Paradis is very good, better than Morse.
What CB you going to pick out of the Chiefs grab bag to beat out Roby?
You'd rather Zombo and the crap Hali was this year over Ray?

Gimme a ****ing break. Now I know why Dane and milkman are so cranky all the time.

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12722764)

So out of all the Chiefs drafted since 2013, only three would start for Denver. Had we kept Malik Jackson it would've only been two. Some of you might argue that one of your guards would start for us and I'd tell you to keep them, I don't want them.

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12722764)

So out of all the Chiefs drafted since 2013, only three would start for Denver. Had we kept Malik Jackson it would've only been two. Some of you might argue that one of your guards would start for us and I'd tell you to keep them, I don't want them.