So am I, I thought he was going to be released.

Someone will trade up from rd 2 and jump us.


It's happened several times in Dorsey's short time here. One year someone jumped ahead of us for the cornerbacks. Another Year they allegedly jumped ahead of us for a QB. Didn't they jump ahead of us for a group of WRs one year so we took Dee Ford instead?

So 2 or 3 out of the 4 years that Dorsey's been here there are rumors that someone jumped in front of us. LMAO

the team that traded in front of us in 2014 is now actively trying to trade that player off their team.

Don't know why you're blaming Dorsey for last season when Andy took away his draft Capitol by losing our 3rd rd pick talking to Maclin.

Colts fan here.

Not a huge fan of this deal but I can see why Ballard did it. Allen obviously isn't in his plans and is somewhat overpaid, so get something out of him instead of just releasing in preseason.

They didn't get a whole lot, though. Pats basically just dropped about 50 spots to get him.

If they get 2012 DA, they'll be happy. He's been injury prone and inconsistent ever since. Very good run blocker, very physical, but not very fast and inconsistent hands.

Biggest hypocritical sport of any. The combine is where they all go to tamper. It's ****ing silly. Make free agency start at the combine. Do a giant show for the combine and free agency. The fans would eat it up. That simple.

No KC rumors at all. Won't be doing much but I'm praying they surprise us with Brandon Williams or Hightower.

I didn't say that it always worked out bad. I just said that people moved ahead of us.

Change your tampax

Nabbing Brown as an ILB would be a good fit. Played in Ryan's system so he arguably could step right in here. I bet Hightower stays in NE. Cost prohibitive and not really a scheme fit.

If Poe leaves, I think the Chiefs add a cheaper vet like Logan or another run-stuffer type. They will let Bailey, Howard, Jones and Nunez-Roches roll.

With 70 players under contract this year, the Chiefs really don't need to sign anyone. They would have 80 if they use all of their picks, though I suspect a trade up at some point to bring that down to 8 or 9.

The draft is said to be extremely deep. We can fill our depth and holes with it on cheap 4-yr contracts.

We might sign one or two FAs, but they won't happen for probably a few days and they might even wait until closer to Summer.

Tampering will not end until the league starts taking away 2nd or even 1st round picks over it. If they threaten to do that, I doubt you'd hear about it again.

Is it a huge ****ing pipe dream to think that Trubisky won't go until the teens?

If that's the case, I would absolutely trade picks to move up. A couple this year, a couple next year if that's the price. We'll have some comp picks next year, too, though maybe not as many.

First time in my life where I'm ok with any of the main 4 top QBs

We only have 202 K to spend

**** it. I'll go ahead and get my hopes up.

Cleveland (supposedly likes Jeanine Garafalo)

San Fran (supposedly is trading for Cousins?)

NY Jets (unlikely circumstance they pick up Cutler after Chicago jettisons him?)

Buffalo (Tyrod Taylor is sticking around)

If all that stuff actually happens, we only have two enemies to worry about: the Chargers at 7 (would they look to put a timetable on Rivers' exit right now?) and the Saints at 11.

The Saints are our biggest hurdle to cross after all those other hurdles have fallen into place.

After that, we'd also need to cut a deal with Philly, Indy, and Baltimore to move ahead of Washington.

No way around it. KC will HAVE to trade up. They got the ammo. I don't want to see Cousins traded to SF for WAS for the number 2 pick because they'll get a QB there likely

This is the time to do it. Dee Ford's 5th year option is really the only major cost for us next year.

Gaines-nope
Sherman-not paid that much, expendable
Colquitt-extend him, not that much
Foles-nope
Spiller-nope
Fulton-replaceable
Sorenson-replaceable
DAT-nope
Howard-maybe. Not that expensive

It's a deep draft and we have 10 picks, plenty to keep building a mostly set roster. We're getting anther 3rd rd comp for Poe next year, so hell I'd be good with giving up our ordinal 3rd this year and in 2018 if we like a guy that much to want him.

Plus you have Foles and Alex gone clearing up tons of cap room and probably Tamba leaving as well.
It makes all the sense in the world. Get your guy, John.

3 seasons before we have to make MP22 the highest paid corner

Also, it's not like we're going to draft ten guys that will stay on the roster. I'd rather go get someone you really want and use some extra picks to get them

I don't know that they would have to trade up necessarily for their QB depending on who it is, but I'd prefer that they do just to be safe, and to send a clear message that they believe in said QB.

Draft Trubisky. Start Alex for a year. MAYBE two. Then cut him loose.

There's where our Peters money will come from, not to mention a ton of other deals that will be out by then-- Tamba, DJ, Bailey, Maclin, etc.

If Trubisky takes the fall in the 1st, GO ****ING GET HIM.

Think about this. If the Chiefs nail this draft with a QBOTF and other contributors, they could enter next offseason with around $45 million in cap space just by releasing Smith, Hali, and DJ.

The Hali and DJ cuts by next offseason will most likely have to happen. Maybe you keep DJ if he miraculously returns to form. Either way, there's enough cash to keep who you want and also add some pieces to your offense with the QB in place.

2 things:

1) No guarantee we get a 3rd round comp. pick for Poe - the formula is complex and hinges on UFAs leaving versus UFAs signed and comparable dollar amounts.

2) I am convinced that we will see the Chiefs draft a quarterback early in this upcoming draft, and will not be shocked if they repeat that strategy in 2018 with what promises to be an elite quarterback class. I have said in other posts that we get our future back up quarterback this year, but the true starter will be selected next year at the draft....

Word lately has been that Cleveland might take Trubisky #1. They love him.

Personally, I know he's the 'top guy', but I'm not a huge fan. Would take Mahomes or Watson as I believe their ceilings are higher. I trust that Reid would mold the offense to lead the QB to success no matter who it is though, as he always has.

If Poe only signs for 1 year as has been rumored as possible, we might not get much of anything in terms of compensation. Certainly not a 3rd, but maybe a 6th or 7th.

In 2014 the Saints moved from 27 to 20 only giving up their 3rd rd pick. I'm fine with that, in fact I'm fine with trading that 3rd and a 5th/6th to move up to 17 or 18.

ive read three different articles that watson could fall to the chiefs. not for or against. just think it's a stretch he falls that far. free agency aside, no way he lasts that long, but all the qb FA's could cause some to fall. :D

Hope they're not planning on starting him 2017. I love Trubisky as a pro prospect, but I don't know many spread QBs with only 13 games started who would be able to recover from that huge learning curve. I mean, Ryan freakin Tannehill had more games under his belt in college as a QB than Trubisky.

If he's not in the right system with the right team, he could make Jared Goff look like Kurt Warner.

If they want Watson, they will need to trade up once he slides out of the top 12-15. Very possible really.

But for all we know they may want Mahomes most, or maybe Kizer (I hope not). I can't wait for this draft to see where things are headed.

yeah, i don't watch college any longer. it's tough enough to keep up with the chiefs/jayhawks for me anymore. i miss the days when i watched enough to predict how good adrian, DJ, and Jamaal would become. and how much bradford was overvalued :D

Yeah the truth is that it really doesn't matter how good of a prospect a QB is, if they aren't put in the right situation, they won't be successful. Andrew Luck should have been in the playoffs each of the last 2 years, but the team put around him made their whole product a mess.

Derek Carr would not be what we have seen so far if not for the respectable job that Oakland has done assembling his OL and WR corp. Mariota has been able to lean on his run game without any good WRs, Prescott the same (though he has Dez).

Now is the perfect time for the Chiefs to strike. They have a young ascending OL that will be together long term. Big time playmakers at WR and TE. They need to add some speed at RB and some depth at WR and TE. All around, it's a great spot for a young QB to step into.

the chiefs are actually in a good position to have a rookie qb should the starter go down. and here is where i make a browns reference. any quarterback in their newest existence would have failed miserably in cleveland. :D

Jaguars expected to sign DE Calais Campbell
Tony Jefferson expected to sign with Baltimore Ravens
Woodhead expected to sign with Ravens
Jaguars expected to land safety Barry Church
Stills staying with the Fins

This one was big. There was talk that he was considering Oakland. Would have been a nice addition.

Jags front line has some big boys Flowers,Jackson now him.

I'm still stunned at the notion that Mike Glennon might sign a contract worth $15M per year... holy hell.

This. I forgot he was actually still in the league.
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Actually started 13 games in 2013 (rookie), went 4-9. In 2014, he went 1-4... missed 2015 and threw it 11 times in 2016.

5 wins 13 losses - 4,100 yards - 30 TDs and 15 INTs
6 feet 7 inches tall...

And, rumored to be getting a deal for $15M a year on average.

Dunno what the appeal is, but this is why the Hoyers and McCowns play for 12 seasons and 13 different teams.

Bears to sign Mike Glennon to three year deal worth 43.5 million

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-million-deal/

Crazy.

For Mike Glennon?

Wouldn't they rather have a guy like Nick Foles?

What am I missing here?

Desean Jackson signs with the Bucs.

Stephon Gilmore expected to sign with the Patriots according to Schefter

The Bears are always the stupidest team out there that ruins the market for other teams. First the Jay Cutler horrific deal and now this?

Do these mother****ers not learn anything?!

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

Is Romo getting 20+ then?

No way. Speculation is he has to accept an incentive heavy deal, similar to what PM signed, but less $. If he wants big money, he won't be in Denver.

Falcons releasing Tyson Jackson

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...tyson-jackson/

****

good signing

Jamaal Charles, Seahawks have 'mutual interest

Packers retaining pass rusher Nick Perry.

Rapoport said the deal will eclipse $14 million per season.

Damn.

Rams signed LT Andrew Whitworth, formerly of the Bengals, to a three-year, $36 million contract.

According to ESPN's Jeff Dickerson, the Bears have made a "strong offer" to free agent CB A.J. Bouye.

Panthers agreed to terms with LT Matt Kalil, formerly of the Vikings.

Chiefs officially decline Foles option.

Eagles release Connor Barwin

Browns agreed to terms with WR Kenny Britt, formerly of the Rams, on a four-year, $32.5 million contract.

Dumb.

Kenny Britt, the Matt Cassel of receivers. How this dude keeps pulling down this type of money is beyond me.

This market is out of control for average and sub average players. Best to stay away this year.

Ricky Wagner is getting over $9 million average in his deal. Mitchell Schwartz isn't making $9 million in any year of his deal.

We got a major steal getting this guy last season.

Money is nuts

Or wait until Day 3...

So it begins. QBOTF in the coming weeks. :grovel:

Saints are considering sending Brandin Cooks to the Patriots for Malcolm Butler

So the Patriots have a bit of an issue. They will lose Logan Ryan, more of a slot guy, and still have Butler and Rowe, who are also boundary guys along with Gilmore.

Butler, meanwhile, will be annoyed he is making $4M while the other guy makes more than double that. Will Belichick pay two CBs APY $28MM combined next year? Yeah, no.

So now the other shoe drops. Patriots in discussions to trade Butler to the Saints for Brandin Cooks. We'll see where it goes.

We've drafted 5th or 6th round QBOTF's for 40 years

No1curr

Beat me by a second, but only because my post was longer, bastard! :cuss:

:D

I heard the other day that the Saints turned down a mid/late (high teens I think) first round pick for Cooks. Might take more than Butler. Someone suggested Cooks and the Saints 2 (like 42) to Pats for Butler and Pats 1 (32).

Interesting stuff.

The Saints would be ****ing reeruned to make this trade.

The Saints? Yeah it's gonna happen.

Aren't you in the hunt to win the AFC? Aren't the Patriots a likely concern on the way to that goal? Isn't this a generic NFL-wide free agency thread?

:shrug:

Saints are chronically terrible on defense, derailing their hopes of doing anything. Gotta move offensive assets to defense.

Then there's this.

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Malcolm Butler has 36 combined interceptions and pass breakups over the last 2 years. Only Marcus Peters has more.

Okay neat, but it's still terrible value.

Not with Alex Smith my friend...

Per Terez Paylor

Interesting tidbit at QB: The #Chiefs expressed interest in retaining Foles, I'm told. Money would have to work for both sides, though

The Patriots with Cooks? **** I hate the NFL.

Chiefs hate this QB draft class.

Please god let them bring back Foles, draft a QB and then cut Smith after the draft.

If we bring back foles...we aren't drafting a QB in the first 4 rounds.

That, and I hate that I root for a team that doesn't pull off moves and trades like the Patriots do.

Why do you say that?