Oh I'm not debating that at all. Whatever the reason may be, the end result is that they've been crap in the paint in recent yrs. Hopefully that changes this yr.

It looks like the writing is on the wall that Mitchell Robinson will come to KU, that is if Bill Self lets him.

He's apparently visiting this weekend and LSU is now out.

Mitchell Robinson recently packed his shit up and left Western Kentucky before starting FALL classes. One of his family members resigned from their coaching gig at WKU a few weeks earlier. Robinson is a consensus Top 10 player in the 2017 class. In order to play this season, he would have to get a waiver from the NCAA, which is probably a long shot, but not impossible. If he didn't get a waiver from the NCAA, he would likely just be an Enes Kanter situation. He would probably go pro in 2018 and never play a minute for KU.

But KU has an open scholly for this year that they aren't doing anything with anyway, and there isn't anybody out there since Jack Whitman screwed us in the buttox.
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http://www.chatsports.com/lsu-tigers...land-him-34990

It was late night last Friday. Crickets in here. Shame on you all.

Hey you cord cutters...is it possible to have one source like Sling TV, Amazon Video or whatever and get ALL of the following:
-ESPN
-ESPN2
-ESPNU
-FS1
-CBS
-ABC
-ESPN3 (logging in to use Watch ESPN app)
-Fox Sports Kansas City
-Big 10 Network
-MLB Network
-NBA Network

AND the ability to record the shit.

If I could do that, I would be fine finally getting rid of cable/direct TV.

Playstation Vue meets most of that

Boom Devon Dotson to KU! Finally breaks the streak of not getting top point guards

Oh **** yes, go get Grimes and that's a damn good class.

so the guy is top shelf good but not "elite" so he may stay more than one year?

have a good shot of getting zion, grimes, and langford which would be a damn good class. Langford is high on indiana though since he is from there

yeah, I don't think he will be a one and done but you never know. He will be our starting point guard next year though

Finally Self starts doing his job instead of getting the Frank Masons of the world.

Trollololol

Already a monster class without anybody else.

lmao, love it or hate it we got damn lucky with frank mason

There is a exhibition game tonight. If you have Time Warner Cable or Comcast in the KC area you can watch it. Or if you have someone else just log in to watch espn or espn3 with a VPN or you will be blacked out. Outside of the KC area, well good for you.

I'm ready for this time of year!

Carlton Bragg just quit basketball at Arizona State.

I will be at the game tonight.

he seemed to have a lot of talent just never worked well for him here and evidently there too.

He's apparently "taking a break" but ASU is being cryptic with the details.

Man. That sucks. He has a lot of talent.

As usual, Watch ESPN stream is not working. 7:04 PM, game started at 7:00 PM. Using VPN and everything and just says" Your event is about to begin please stand by".

**** you Zenger.

So in case you guys were wondering, KU won by fitty.

Thanks.

What did you dress up as?

How'd the game go? I'm out of town and couldn't watch.

Tough loss with a lot of teaching moments for Bill.

Should be another exciting year of beating up on big 12 patsies. Then being humiliated in the 2nd round or S16.

It must suck for you to be so miserable all the time.

Still hard to figure why they didn't let Bail go this offfseason with a great guard recruiter like Romar available. There are only so many failed seasons you can take here before you aspire to something more with this program.

There's always next year.

Preston already in the doghouse! Missed curfew and a class!

Won't play tonight!

KU 20 - 4, have not missed a shot yet, 4 behind the arc.

There isn’t a lot to be gleaned from possessions against Tenn St other than they are not playing down to competition.

True, I live here in the Ohio Valley Conf area, they still have enough talent to win it.

But they are no match for KU, it's red meat for the fans.

I was really hoping Lightfoot would come back super ripped this year. He still looks fragile.

So thin down low again.

Kzu is a final 4 team this year

Went to the game last night....
Looked great in the first half.....Not as much in the 2nd.
Vick's left handed jam was sweet.
Graham had nice assists.
I like Garrett....Kid is always around the ball and hustles.
All Starters in Double digits in scoring.
Disappointed that Preston didn't play.
KU is in big trouble if Udoka goes down again. No Lucas to bail them out.

And the Boo Clones got curb stomped by MU?????
LMFAO

Pretty solid opening game. KU put those guys away early and cruised to victory. Graham did a great job running the show, Vick looks like a badass this year, and Garrett gets a double-double right out of the gate.

I don’t think this is Booclones year.

They looked impressive last night. The announcers were selling TSU as being a good team but, I dont know if thats true or they are just tomato cans.

Again, we have some great athletes that can run and go to the basket but, our big men bench is so short. our starter goes down we are screwed. Why didn't self get some inside help this year?

The announcers were saying he is going to be a 3-4 year guy. He plays like that all year he is one and done/

We have help coming in December

Cunliffe

Who ?

Silvio De Sousa, that is if he gets clearance to play by the NCAA. TBH, I don't expect much from him if he does because he will not be acclimated up to speed with the rest of the team not having any practice time with them.

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2017/n...eking-ncaa-ap/

De Sousa is a stud though, I think by february if he can play he will be up to speed just fine.

He is only going to get minimal practice time during the conference season, KU's coaches focus will be on the conference games, not so much teaching. He is going to have to get the extra time one on one with coaches after practice, even then they have to minimize it because of classes and studies.

Right now the only thing he knows, what a basketball is. The college game is going to be an adjustment of speed and learning the system. Other freshmen have had the whole summer, you have to have talent to crack the roster and get playing time as a freshman in Self's system. Several have, but the off season was the time to learn. Getting playing time during the conference will be difficult, Bill has never compromised playing time over taking care of business of winning the conference title.

Devon Dotson

Class of 2018 point guard Devon Dotson officially a Jayhawk

The Kansas men’s basketball team officially has its point guard of the near future.

With Frank Mason III now playing in the NBA and Devonté Graham playing his final season as a Jayhawk, KU coach Bill Self knew he needed a lead guard to replace them and zeroed in on Devon Dotson, a five-star point guard from Charlotte, N.C.

The 6-foot-2, 175-pound Dotson orally committed to Kansas during a ceremony at his school on Oct. 13. On Saturday, he made that commitment official by signing his national letter of intent to join the Jayhawks.

“We recruited three or four lead guards in the country this past year, knowing all the perimeter players that we’ll be losing,” Self said in a press release. “We felt like Devon had the highest ceiling of the guys that we were recruiting.”

Ranked No. 17 in the 2018 class by Rivals.com, Dotson becomes the first official KU signee in a recruiting class that is ranked No. 2 in the nation by Rivals. Big men Silvio De Sousa, who is exploring the possibility of coming to KU early, and David McCormack also are expected to send their letters to KU before the end of the early signing period next Wednesday.

While he waits for those letters, Self elaborated on what he liked about Dotson.

“He’s an explosive athlete,” Self said. “He’s very unselfish. He can make plays for others, but he also has plenty of explosiveness that he can make plays for himself. And even though they are different type players, in some ways he will remind people of Frank because of his ability to get into the lane.”

Self called Dotson “one of the most explosive guards we’ve had since I have been here at Kansas” and credited assistant coach Norm Roberts for his role in Dotson’s recruitment.

As a junior, Dotson averaged 24.4 points, 6.8 rebounds and 5.1 assists per game at Providence Day School for coach Brian Field.

As a sophomore, Dotson helped guide Providence Day to the 3A state championship and, this past summer, he averaged 19 points, 5.2 rebounds, 3.4 assists and 2.5 steals per game for Team Charlotte AAU.

David McCormack

Five-star big man David McCormack inks with Kansas

A few hours after the Kansas basketball program announced the signing of Class of 2018 point guard Devon Dotson on Saturday, a second letter of intent arrived in the KU basketball offices.

David McCormack, a 6-foot-10, 285-pound center from Oak Hill Academy, ranked as the No. 4 center in the 2018 class, made his commitment to Kansas official by signing the letter at a ceremony with his family.

Two of KU's three commitments in 2018 recruiting class that is ranked second in the country by Rivals.com, now have signed their letters.

"David is guy who caught our eye early on," Self said of McCormack, who was a teammate of current Jayhawk Billy Preston at Oak Hill last year. "There are many things that impressed us about him and the more we watched, the more we liked. As he got older, we fell in love with his effort, his attitude and his discipline. David is a guy, on his own, that has lost 50 pounds by eating right, changing his diet and doing proper exercise. He's transformed his game and his body into something that I feel like will be one of the more prepared bodies that anyone can recruit in college basketball."

McCormack, who said his relationship with KU assistant coach Jerrance Howard played a huge role in him picking Kansas, averaged 10.6 points and 8.6 rebounds per game during his junior season at Oak Hill and 14.8 and 9.8 for Team Loaded AAU this summer.

“He's 6-10 and can play both big spots, the power forward or center type position," Self said. "He's got good skills and we think the sky is the limit on what he can become as well. When you look at big bodies that we've had, David has a body like Thomas (Robinson) but he reminds me of a Darnell Jackson early in his career in that he can definitely shoot, he can pass but he'll do most of his work near the basket.”

KU’s other known commitment in the 2018 class is 6-9 forward Silvio De Sousa, who is exploring the idea of coming to KU in time for the second semester this season.

Self and company also remain in the hunt for a few other elite 2018 prospects, including five-star prospects Quentin Grimes, Zion Williamson and Romeo Langford, who narrowed his list to Kansas, Indiana and Vanderbilt this weekend.

The end of the early signing period, which opened last Wednesday, runs through next Wednesday. The regular signing period is set for April 2018.

Who are you talking about?

The only thing I've seen is the D'sousa and that seems iffy for this year. He's not even officially committed. Hasn't practiced with team etc. Looks like a good addition for next year but not this year.

Again, we have one big man who sit out most of last year with an injury. He goes down, Lightfoot? We are going no where in the tournament with Lightfoot as our main big guy in the middle.

So I ask again, what happened? Did we miss on many big guys? Self thought we were fine? Anyone know?

Quentin Grimes, #6 ranked HS player likely to commit to be a Jayhawk this week!!

Next year is the year, remember?

Where is ole Rusty at? Haven't seen him in a bit.

What are you ****ing people talking about? de Sousa was our first commit and he signed this morning.

He's a five star PF with a midrange shot, and fills the exact hole in the roster.

Additionally, he would be able to join mid-December, and all reports are that it looks really good to happen.

This is ****ing HUGE.

He was a top 5 prospect before not playing in summer games. He's dropped to 18 now, and Self says he thinks he's top 5 players in the class.

Fill me in on this because I don't follow recruiting. He's a 2018 commit, but pushing to play this year?

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Apparently this has happened before in basketball but is more common in football, just so a player can practice. Kentucky had a guy do it last year (Diallo, #1 shooting guard recruit), and he could have played, but never did. From what I saw, he enrolled early with the expectation of not playing.

On the downside, this could allow for a "none-and-done" - the Kentucky guy could have entered the draft after last season.

no one is questioning his top shelf bonafides.

He's not been practicing with the team. Self is just going to put a kid who should still be high school on the court for meaningful minutes? Since when has Self ever put a kid in like that?

Nice. Thanks for the info. Good to see you around - haven't sent you a random drunk text in awhile.

That is exactly what will happen.

Self has never had this situation so you can't ask when it happened. This will be huge for a myriad of reasons but initially at the very very least it is 5 fouls and some rebounding.

Having him be a backup big this year will help considerably. And to whomever asked who Cunliffe is and whoever said what happened with the bigs can you do us all a favor and actually follow the Jayhawks if you want to post here?

Self had two bigs leave the program over the summer after realizing they won't play much. Cunliffe is a 6-5 wing who can jump out of the arena.

If you seriously don't know then please look at his picture here:

https://inkphy.com/user/hannahmc5/42203839?hl=en

Whats with this BS only "real" fans are allowed to post in this thread shit?:shake:

Self knew those people who left were not going to get on the floor. He wasn't counting on them. This new guy who enrolled today may or may not help us. As far as I know there is no more help on the way. We all knew we needed inside help. I'm sure Self knew this too. So..... I dont think that asking the group in this thread why are inside bench is so thin is an off the wall, thats a stupid question to ask.

He signed two guys to help with bench depth and they both left. So now Silvio will try to graduate early and help with bench depth. I am not sure why this is hard to understand.

don't get mad because you just found out what people knew for months. You don't have to be a real fan or whatever to at least pay attention before the UK game.

By the way even if Silvio can't sign on KU will be fine with the 3 bigs. Most teams don't have the depth Duke has.

Self's quote today was that Silvio "could help any program the day he steps on the court".

He's not one to play guys who can't understand basketball (Diallo), but the kid could be brought along during the season and be ready to help in March.

This move is so rare that it's tough to know what will happen, and that's even before you consider that every recruit steps onto campus as a complete unknown.

Just no dicks, please.

I don't think we've had a KU watch party in the last 2 years.

Never. I know you get enough of those already.

I don't think so either. Sounds like we are trying to do the opening day of the tournament at Twin Peaks again this year. I think you usually take that off anyway, so I'll throw out the invite.

thanks for the civil and still informative post. I trust Self. He doesnt usually BS about a kids talent. He says he can play and help right away, I'm positive that's the way it will be.

Eh, sometimes. He was either way wrong, or BSed us about Selby.

EDIT: I mean that through playing time. I don't recall him saying anything about his talent, but he kept rolling him the **** out there. And the kid couldn't play.

I've got a small group that watches here every year, but it's getting smaller as people have kids and become lame. And where I live now (downtown) you would think the tournament didn't even exist - one place we went and asked if they were going to show tournament games said "what tournament? like basketball?" Another place said she was too busy to worry about changing the TV, granted that was on St Pats. But that is Mizzou country, so I guess I can understand them not knowing basketball exists.

Sounds like Quentin Grimes is a KU lean -- this kid looks smooth.

Announcing this Wednesday at 630 pm CT.

Next year's team could be absolutely filthy.

Connor Frankamp is still with WSU (I thought he graduated). He still can’t move his feet to save his ass.

Well he is like 24 and his hair is like 64 years old.

In before banning from bearcat.


Play some damn perimeter defense dammit!

ROFL

They recruited a female track star from the University of Oregon? I gotta say, she is better looking than any of the other guys on the team. :D

I can't remember a year with so many early commits.

Fallout from the FBI investigation (less competition)?

Our empty roster is why.

Is next year gonna be like 2009?

LMAO

https://deadspin.com/joel-embiid-pac...nto-1820438101

Gotta text from a buddy saying Preston is out tonight and suspended indefinitely.

Take it for what it’s worth.

Grayson Allen is such a douche. KCC approved.

Preston?

This.