I’m on record with a breakdown of why I’d be ok with extending Sammy at the current going rate of his role on the team. 10-11m per with a cap of 12m aav

That’s paying him like Keenan Allen.

I think that’s beyond fair, being that Allen has twice the production.

I don’t know. This is one of the deepest WR drafts in years, maybe EVER, according to some scouts. A lot of guys being taken in the second round may be first rounders in other years. If you can get a first round talent in the second on a rookie deal, that sure looks tempting compared to paying Watkins $12-14 mil. per year. And you could invest that extra money back into Jones (if the Chiefs decide to keep him) or a really good FA CB or an elite LB.

I like Watkins too, but the strategy above may be a smarter play. Plus, as others have said, I question his motivation going forward.

JFC, is it really necessary to bump a three year old thread to post updated news?

Start a new thread.

Sammy is a guy that if he gave full effort on every play could be a 1500 yard receiver that score a minimum of 10tds per year.

Go look at his production after week one till the playoffs.

WRs making his kind of Jack don’t disappear for 15 games like that.

I’d love to see this offense with a vet like AJ Green in the WR2 role and Hardman in the slot...and at his age and never having won anything...that’s a real possibility.

DaneMcCloud has anal leakage?

If they strike, they strike. Big deal. It will end like the others. Players get a little bit ,while the owners lose nothing. Over and over again.
Jocks are a dime a dozen. There's not only 35 great QBS in a land of 300 million.

Production or not, Sammy has to be accounted for anytime he's on the field. He's got ultra speed with decent size. Like Dan mentioned, the offensive production of the offense goes down when he's out because his presence alone opens up the field for others.

Even if the Chiefs hit on a great receiver in this class, would you want to rely on a rookie coming in and playing consistently in Reid's offense? The Chiefs could realistically win the SB again next year. I wouldnt want to be counting on a rookie coming in to learn Reid's offense and have that same impact year one that Watkins has when he's in the game.

1) I'm sorry you had to go through that and I hope you're doing good now


2) I have first hand experience with a loved one that used it to help with pain management and not only was it effective but it allowed her to cut back on the prescription medication, and doing that prolonged her life.

Tramadol is actually one of the least potent pain killers out there. To be constipated after just 3 days on an opioid makes it seem like you are overly sensitive to the effects of it. Tramadol is also synthetic and act like an antidepressant. It's trash.

I was given Tramadol at 1 point, it did jack and shit for me after surgery...oxycodone just makes me tired. But Pain meds really don't have much affect on me to be honest.

Strike at your own risk.

he didnt talk about sitting out a year after the SB...

So you confirmed my numbers. Are you proud of yourself?

Same here. Doesn’t matter if it is tramadol, oxy, or Advil it all has the same level of pain relief for me.

Fentanyl is a completely different story. That really works but the relief is short lived.

I hope they do strike. The 17th game I don't like. I don't like 7 teams instead of 6, and I hate hate hate hate hate hate that they are eliminating one of the byes. That means we wouldn't have had a bye this year in the AFC. You rely on that to help propel you to the Super Bowl when you are a top team. Luck can play a part in getting the #1 or #2 or just who you played. In addition to a 17 game schedule, it will allow some teams to have MORE home games than away games. Just a terrible CBA all around.

Instead of the owners just giving more money to the players, they just want them to play more. Which makes sense in most cases, but not when there is a great chance of injury.

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This is where I'm at too. I absolutely hate the playoff expansion. That one is a complete no go for me.<br />
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The 17 game season is OK, but the odd number makes it not work so well with the unequal number of homes and aways...maybe they end up doing 8 home, 8 away, and 1 international game for everyone? If not, I'd rather see something like 18 games with 2 byes and only 1 or 2 preseason game or something.

I have sciatica pain. I've not smoked weed in 30 years. I think it would make a huge difference. But, I have to take work mandated drug tests all the time. Weed is not an option until the scumbags legalize it.

What? You mean you aren't going to just smoke it anyway and then blame your employer if you fail a test, even though you knew the consequences ahead of time? What a genius you are!

This is basically all angled to extend the season and be able to add teams.

If you get to 18 games and expanded playoffs look what you can do...You can add a bye to the regular season, you add a round to the playoffs etc and all of the sudden you've extended the season by a month.

Also an 18 game schedule makes expansion easier, don't be surprised if they end up getting up to 40 teams in the next 20 years.

This is all about money, more teams, more weeks more games more money.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. ;)

It's the CP way!

What 8 cities could support NFL expansion? The list looks very weak. San Antonio and San Diego are possibles. I don't really buy Orlando or Portland. The big ones were Las Vegas and LA which both got teams. Salt Lake seems like a big loser. What pro athlete wants to move to Mormon town?

Uh, there are 35 'great' QBs in the NFL? By all means, name the 35 . . .

Because as far as the rest of us can tell, there aren't more than about 5 'great' QBs in the NFL.

8 cities that can support NFL teams, now remember newer are building smaller stadiums as this is a TV product.

1. Toronto
2. San Antonio/Austin both of these cities are huge so pick one
3. Portland
4. Oklahoma City
5. San Diego
6. St Louis
7. Albuquerque
8. Louisville

Those bottom 2 are longer shots but I left off places like London, Mexico City, Vancouver and even Salt Lake, there are a lot of options. Hell Columbus Ohio is massive but the Buckeyes are there so....

They obviously want teams in other countries, too.

They want the world football league.

Move one of the struggling franchises like the Chargers, Jags or Bucs to Toronto.

That isn't what they want though, they want more teams because that is more games.

Also the NFLPA is gonna love this because that is a ton more jobs, I expect expanded roster sizes at some point to to help with that too.

NFL already has the most teams in any American League. And at least 10 of those can’t get support. It would severely damage the product adding more teams.
Only 1/3 of the teams now are truly competitive. Lot of boring games nobody will watch.

You don’t need to add teams to get more revenue.

Make the pro bowl a fun skills challenge and have more fan attendance, move a struggling team to Canada, add more games in Europe, add a 2nd combine for lesser prospects in March (people will watch) and for gods sake quit having shit teams in prime time. Move the limit of 6 prime time games per team to 7.

More Cowboys and more Mahomes on primetime=more eyes watching=$$$

You're missing the point, the more games that are on TV the more the tv contracts become worth at that point. The NFL isn't in the game of trying to have some ultra competitive league they are in the business of making money.

More and more sports are about tv not live attendance why do you think stadiums are being built smaller now?

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Mahomes extension is up there. All there waiting on is the new CBA then boom extend his ass

Yeah, just what the league needs! More Cowboys games on national TV!

1: Canadians aren't going to be happy about an American league team even if it's in Canada. Not gonna work.

2 & 4: Jerry Jones isn't going to divvy up his franchise's reach any more than it currently is between the Texans and Saints. Not happening.

3: Someone's gonna pony up a billion for the franchise rights AND self-fund a stadium since an uber-left city like Portland isn't gonna allow for a taxpayer funded football stadium? lol nope.

5: Even in a new, downsized stadium the local populace won't care and it'll be partially filled with fans of the visiting team. But sure if some billionaire wants to do it: go for it.

6: St. Louis is a baseball and hockey town, AND there are three if not four franchises that aren't going to want to cede marketshare. Not happening.

7: See #3, except less lefty.

8: See #6 except that the fact there's no pro competition (beyond AAA baseball) is traded off by the fact it's smaller and much less wealthy than St. Louis. Not gonna happen.

The limit of six games is fine. If the same team or teams are playing in Prime Time 41% of the time, the networks will lose viewers due to sheer boredom, if not hate.

Who wants to see Tom Brady & Bill Belichick seven times in Prime Time along with their allotted national morning and afternoon games?

Also, it's really, really difficult for the league to consistently schedule the "best" teams and games in Prime Time because there's so much movement in Free Agency, along with injuries that just derail seasons.

The Networks don't pay an equal amount for each package, they bid on the rights to broadcast the AFC, NFC, MNF, SNF & TNF. So the last thing that CBS or Fox wants to do is give up that awesome morning or afternoon game to NBC or ESPN due to "flexing" because it affects their bottom line and their revenues as well.

While it seems like there's been a recent rash of bad Prime Time games, I really don't want to see it go back to what it was in the 70's, 80's and most of the 90's, in which we see the same teams every Sunday afternoon or in Prime Time: The NY Giants, Washington Redskins, Philadelphia Eagles, San Francisco 49ers, Miami Dolphins, the Pittsburgh Steelers and Dallas Cowboys, all because they were the "winningest" teams but more importantly to the networks, the cities with the largest population and fan bases.

At least there's Sunday Ticket today but back then, it was either watch the games on broadcast TV or turn off the TV on Sunday afternoon or Monday night.

I don't think anyone wants a repeat of those days.

More Canadians are watching the NFL than the CFL (including me), so I'm not sure I follow on this one.

There's no doubt that such a franchise would be successful with as much money as there is in Toronto right now, but I would think the real reasons that the NFL doesn't want to expand there is because they're not adding a US television market by doing so (incredibly important to the major network network television partners who call the shots) and they've already got a built-in fanbase throughout the city/country with everyone already watching their own respective teams. If international expansion is going to happen any time soon, I think it will be elsewhere.

Monterrey, Mexico is really the only international expansion that makes some sense.

We’re, Portland not worthy of any pro teams besides the basketball.
Heck, the NBA won’t even allow an ALL STAR game here cause they say there’s not enough motels to support, lol.


It’s either at least 3-4 more years of Sammy or he’s gone.
I would have hoped to draft a day 2 wr and then let him play behind Watkins to learn the playbook for a year, then take over the following year?

I had heard of sightings, lol.

What a pleasant surprise to see your posts Mr. McCloud.
I sincerely hope your girls,family and yourself are doing wonderful.

it's called NFL Game Pass you old **** ;)

Wrong, as usual.

NFL Game Pass only airs preseason games in Real Time. Regular season games aren't posted until after the games have ended.

Direct TV's NFL Sunday Ticket is the only legal way to watch Out-of-Market NFL games in Real Time.

God damn do you enjoy being wrong?

Facts.

Dunno what you are on about. I watched all the games I wanted this year on game pass live. :D

If you are in Australia that would make sense. DirectTV is the only way to legally watch live out of market games here.

Well there ya go, I learned something new today :D :thumb:

Good let'm go out on strike/lockout. We have the XFL now. :evil: