im a charger fan born and raised in san diego.
the move to LA sucks yes....but i still follow them and will root for them..they are my team for life...its sad because we are the laughing stock of the league. and we arent bad, we play good teams well and barely lose and shouldt lose but somehow we do..

in san diego...we had greats fans win we were winning allah 2005-2009...ever since the stadium has been half opposing teams. one reason being that other teams fans plan their vacations around their team games VS San diego.. because its such a nice place...other reason...people in san diego have tons of options for things to do on sundays....beach, snowboarding, hiking ETC....so i mean if we were in say south dakota we would probably have fans because there isnt anything to do in places like that....even KC....what else are you going to do in KC on a winter sunday lol?

as for going back to SD//// maybe in 5 years..its just really a sad thing happening right now for us...the players are getting emotional because of it. fans are getting really petty too...

BOLT UP

****!!!!!!

Lame loser exscuses are lame.

No, they don't.

The Rams broke that record last year.

alot of fans from other teams said they always make sure to go to the SD games, because its the best place to vacation....and all the transplants from all over the USA....SD voted best city to live in the USA

Yeah, I never bought that excuse. There are tons of things to do in CO year round, too. Its been years since I lived in LA but I remember it as a baseball town.

And moving the Chargers back to SD would be even more dumb than the move to LA was. That team needs a total re-branding and new ownership. Name change and all.

denver CO is alot different than KC lol

They will always be the San Diego Chargers/Oakland Raiders to me. I'm grandfathered in on this and I will not be swayed!

Never bought the "We have so many things to do BS. You also have 52 weekends a year to do those things. Furthermore, with weather rarely a deterrent, you go through little hardship sitting in the stands. Despite no ocean and cold weather, people in flyover country believe it or not actually have things that they could enjoy on a winter day as well. Lame Southern Cal excuse IMO.

That's his point.

Denver is a very entertaining city but they still sellout for home games

Maybe the league should contract the Chargers. Just put the whole franchise out of its misery.

Thanks ROFL

I started to respond and said, "Ahh, **** it."

Fargo Dome seats just over 19,000. That's about what the Chargers will get most games anyway

pathetic

https://i.imgur.com/qs3lNDV.gif

They have no fans. Team with no fans will never win nor will it get fa's. Very unattractive destination.

Move them to San Antonio.

Lon-Don-En-gland Sup-er Char-gers

Good. I hate the Chargers. I hope they stay in LA and rot.

I hope that doesn't happen. I can't pronounce 'Chargers' with an English accent.

Mexico City? Shit, more like Tijuana. Or Jaurez. A city more shitty to fit with their record.

I think the Raiders would fit perfectly in Juarez

Juarez, Oakland, same place.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...41ceadd1c0.jpg

They need to go back. LA is Rams territory and they will likely struggle to regain the fan base they once had before moving to Missouri.
There's just no place for the Chargers in Los Angeles.

Chargers might get their chance at a gold mine franchise QB for LA in Darnold or Rosen.

Looking good for either one of them - Los Angeles, the Giants and 49ers. Marquee market and two marquee franchises.

is contraction an option?

Could move them to Richmond, VA but Synder would try and block it. Richmond is a decent size metro area and the Hampton Roads metro area is in easy driving distance.

Owners gonna sell soon, they may end up back in SD

Canada? It would be competing with hockey but I think it would do well there. Better than LA/SD.

They can't sell for ten years or they give up a big chunk of the sale. They need one of the LA college QBs and hope Darnold/Rosen have at least as many fans as Alex Smith that will follow them.

So, you're hoping to seat about 800 capacity, then?

I don't believe that will work for your long term financial needs in this league.

They looked at NY with the giants and jets and thought LA was big enoigh for the same thing to happen there.

The raiders made more since in LA. Hell the rams make good sense too seeing as how they played there before moving to st. Louis.

The chargers are jist unnatural there.i dont see why they left san diego. Maybe itll get better once the stadium is built. But with all thefans of the raiders, 49ers, ect i dont see LLA being that viable for them.

They should either go back or move to a football hungry market. LA barely likes football enough for 1 team.


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agree.

You do know that the Chargers did play in LA before San Diego, so yes just like the Rams they moved back to their original city

For 12 months. In 1960.

I'm sure that huge fan base they cultivated 57 years ago was very loyal and extremely happy to have them back in LA this year.

Instead of sharing a stadium in LA, they should move Vegas and share a stadium with the Faiders.

I mean, as long as you are counting on the other teams fans to fill seats...

The only time it wouldn't sell out is when the Chargers and Faiders played each other.

I don't see why they don't move to St Louis. Does St Louis not curr if they have a team or not? We could have the Governor's Cup twice a year and actually have a rivalry instead of pretend.

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They should definitely consider moving back to San Diego. It would also be cool if they moved to St. Louis and created a divisional in-state rivalry.

Mexico City or Vancouver would be interesting, too.

Just get out of LA, ya dummies!

$400M down to $150M? That's a disaster. Good thing they're not publicly traded.

They are going to make bank on the other team in LA though.

Right, that's the uniqueness of the NFL model. Like I said, if this were a normal, publicly-traded company, they'd be scrambling right now.

:shake:

Who ever did that first revenue projection better be fired! What a cluster****! ROFL

Yep. That kind of a forecast adjustment gets people fired at both ends - the people that made the projection AND the people that failed to meet it.

This whole mess is caused by the Raiders fan base being complete ****ing morons. Raiders in Los Angeles and they are near Cowboy level in worth. But their fans are morons and the NFL can't have that. Las Vegas is a good spot for the Raiders and it works out for them there, but Vegas would have been good a spot for the Chargers as well. Chargers would have made bank there. But it all goes back to the fan base of the Raiders.

This clearly needs to happen. Nobody in LA gives a shit about them, and a team not even being able to fill a ****ing joke of a soccer stadium gives the league a perpetual black eye.

Of course, even if they go back, at this point, how much damage have they done to their old San Diego base?

This was dumb as **** from the outset. Spanos should be shot out of a cannon into a brick wall.

If they're Spanos-less, they will be welcomed back with open arms. As long as they pay for their own stadium. They better hurry though, that land is about to be used for other stuff.

San Diego is not going to pay for Spanos' stadium. SD fans would welcome the Chargers back without Spanos. They'd even welcome them back WITH Spanos if he paid for a new stadium next to Qualcomm with his own money.

He doesn't have enough, though. What they are NOT going to do is pay for it themselves, as they shouldn't.

I can't believe how many cities are so eager and willing to pay for a stadium.

I don't think cities should pay for a stadium.

But fans want a home team. Some don't mind the subsidy. Some go along with the accounting BS that having a team will some how raise more revenue than the city loans cost.

I'm a little surprised that San Antonio isn't in the discussion for the Chargers. Texas appears willing to support football at all levels. I don't think Jones has the clout to veto like he once did.

If you move to San Antonio and it doesn't work out, you can always move again.

Heck, the Chargers would probably get better attendance sharing a stadium in Arlington than they will get sharing a stadium in LA.

can the nfl force a sale????

Not going to happen. Where the **** you gonna put them?

There's nowhere for them to play here as the Qualcomm site is as good as gone. You'd have to develop a whole new stadium on a new site somewhere else within the county. The city of San Diego itself isn't teeming with land viable enough to build a stadium on.

The people will vote what happens with the current Qualcomm site in November. Two initiatives are on the table right now: An FS Investors "Soccer City" vision and SDSU's new Aztec stadium/extended campus.

Qualcomm will be torn down in favor of either a 20k or a 35k seat stadium and a bunch of retail or living facilities.

That ship sailed, NFL. San Diego is moving on with out you.

Last I read (which was a while ago), both plans included a way to accommodate an NFL stadium. Soccer City was leaving an open area suitable for an NFL stadium, while SDSU's stadium would have an expansion option.

Shiiiiiit...if they thought a new stadium in SD was expensive then, then good luck. Because any new stadium here will need to be 100% privately funded. The Tax payers didn't want to pay for Dean's shit BEFORE he moved, they sure as **** won't be volunteering any money to bring him back.

"Expansion" would be gimmicky. The SDSU stadium would expand to something like, what, 55K at the most and would probably look rather cheap and gimmicky. I can't see an NFL team biting on a psuedo football stadium.

San Diego
Oakland
Salt Lake City
Sacramento
Portland
St Louis

They'll be the subway shop inside of the Rams gas station.

How about an island?

The Catalina Chargers has a ring to it. Send them out there.

FAX

Good comparison. LMAO :clap:

How about the Butte Butts?

Totonto Football MapleLeafs

Spokane Meth Mouths

Yes. Yes it is....it truly is a dump.

“Bugtussle Chargers”

Bugtussle could use a team.

They're still playing football with live pigs.

They're good and all, but it's damn hard to throw a live pig ... and equally difficult to tuck one high and tight.

FAX

Even if they were a privately held company there would be firings abound.

Even if they were homeless bums, they would be unhappy.

FAX

How about the Salt Lake Floaters

Can we just get rid of the chargers and raiders. Or new england.

Looks like the Chargers aren't going anywhere for a long time.


https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/c...east-20-years/


Stan Kronke outmaneuvers Spanos yet again.

No going back to San Diego with their old stadium now demolished.

I’d say this image perfectly symbolizes the Chargers franchise...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvrgzvzV...jpg&name=large

how much sewage is in that hole?

Bye murph

So long Arrowhead West.....

Looks like the last shot from Dusk till Dawn

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DMlmDGtWsAAT_PA.jpg

I don't know about sewage, but I believe there was a concern of soil contamination of MTBE from the fuel tank farm a stones throw north of the stadium.

i drove by a few weekends ago, and it still looked like that pic..

Had some good times there for sure (and some bad: Merriman's cheap shot on Holmes stands out).

But that place HAD to be the worst dump of a stadium in the NFL for it's last 5-7 years of existence.

I saw a couple aztecs games and a US soccer match there within the past 3 years, and it was sooooo bad. Had to walk forever to find vendors, and if you wanted a cocktail (not beer), there was only 1 place in the whole stadium serving liquor).

Excited to see something new go in its place.

I know the voters didn’t want a new stadium.

But it feels like a missed opportunity. A new modern, billion dollar stadium in San Diego, with that weather....would seem highly attractive for all kinds of events.

what are the plans? Homes/condo/shopping/amazon fulfillment center?

I would not want to invest in shopping right now.

Maybe they can force them to move to St. Louis.

st. louis does not deserve another football team. They have lost 2.