Ok, buddy.

What the **** do you know? You can’t evaluate talent to save your life.

I think that Eligwe, KPL and Ragland have a chance.

The OLB position is a disaster. Houston will never justify his contract,

Hali is done, Ford is a weeping willow and Zombo, while he plays his ass off for next to nothing in NFL terms, just doesn’t have it.

The entire group needs an upgrade.

No doubt about it. I just have a really good feeling about Eligwe. He has by far the most upside of any LB we’ve drafted since DJ, and he flashed the same things you get excited about on tape in the preseason, while earning some really high praise from the coaching staff.

I can’t remember who we played, but that game where he got a pick and racked up several tackles he looked really ****ing good.

Hali and Ford, combined are 11.3m in cap space. Houston is 22.1m.

33.4 million.

That’s a lot of cap space tied up in a pass rush that’s not too good.

Who the **** are you to be making guarantees about a player's future?

Well, he doesn’t watch NFL games on his Garmin Vivofit for one

Lol I've never even heard of half the tech shit you reference, you rich bastard.

I thought you’d like that reference.

:D

Hey, it’s been 2 years since I referenced your TV.

Long overdue.

LMAO

J/K of course. You’re my broheim.

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Not a single ****able person in sight. Kansas city is garbage.

ROFL

Not sure what you mean. Everybody in that picture got ****ed that night!

How is Hali hurt? Seriously lol

I'd kind of like to see us come out of the bye in a 4-3. Logan and Jones at the DT's. Houston and K-Pass with their hands on the dirt on the ends rushing the passer. Ragland in the MLB spot plugging the run between the tackles. SLB and WLB could be plug and plays, even from the secondary.

This is just a second bye week, really.

The only thing that matters are the playoff games.

The same guy that pounded the table on CP for guys like Kelce, Jones, Hill, and Hunt before they played a down in the regular season.

The better question is, when have you EVER had any foresight on a young prospect that the Chiefs drafted?

Yea I have my misses just like anybody else, but at least I’m not scared to call my shot. You are scared to be wrong so you play it safe and never really try to project anything. Which is fine because you probably don’t do your homework on those guys, but don’t pretend like I’m just talking out of my ass. I’ve done mine, and contrary to the narrative that I’m a blind homer, I don’t hype up every single young player on the roster.

To be clear, being optimistic, which I do admit I am with most of the young talent we drafted under Dorsey, isn’t the same as pounding the table. I only do that when I’m legitimately confident and I’m right much more often than I’m wrong when I do that.

I will probably be epic pissed in the moment. But if we lose to the Giants I will laugh.

I totally agree. Put your best foot forward and let it be what it is.

Because he’s broken. Has been for years.

So you have no right to be making guarantees.

End of story.

This exactly, and I won't be surprised.

Utterly fed up with the injury situations of Hali and Ford, year in and out.

Sorry for my conviction, but I could’ve guaranteed you that Bortles wasn’t a top 50 player and a Tyreek was going to have a significant impact before 2016. You wouldn’t have listened then either.

Houston can tear it up with better production around him.

Houston needs to be the game changer. He needs to elevate the production around him. Not the other way around.

Hali can suck a bag of dicks.

Goes on Twitter rampage calling out teammates who miss voluntary workouts, misses the first NINE weeks "hurt" and then plays ONE ****ing game before getting sand in his vag again.

Pack your shit.

I guess the Chiefs think they can just throw anyone out there and win tomorrow.

THIS would be excellent. Mix in Nicolas with KPass.. mix in RNR to spell inside as needed.

... and the CBs have to press more, if ever the pass rush would have a chance.

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They've been really cautious with injuries for a while

I get it, but at some point guys are just hurt and there no motive to it.

Tamba was likely done coming into the year. They couldn't cut him due to the cap, so this is what we get.

But after this year all these old guys need to go

Veach/Reid are staring right in the face at a potential $30-40+ million in cap space with Mahomes, Hunt, Kelce, Hill, the entire OL, Jones, Houston, Peters, Berry and more set to return...

Not a bad situation by any means I don't think. They just have to pick the right places to use their resources. I'd love to see a few of those savvy Sean Smith esque signings. Not the flashiest name, but a guy who can really play in their schemes. Veach needs to get ahead on some extensions too if possible.

Look at Mack and Von Miller. Getting paid big money and both underperforming this year. Why? Lack of talent surrounding them.

The coverage hasn't helped the pass rush this year at all. How often do we see QBs patting the ball looking for someone to throw to against our defense? It hasn't been common outside of the first 2-3 weeks.

Von in chiefs red opposite of Houston would be awesome.

Like old spice awesomeness

Hindsight but Denver could have had both if they hadn't passed on Houston...

Can you imagine?

Jesus.....

what you described is what they run in sub-packages anyway, sans ragland/dj interchangeable. I would like to just see kpass in instead of zombo.

they need to sign or draft at least one or two actual decent proven NFL LBers for next season between ILB and OLB

no clue how, maybe by trade? Dont think theres anyone in FA worth a crap and I dont trust them without a first rounder cause they will just draft another 3 year project in the second.

Kevin Minter or Zach Brown at ILB
Mingo at OLB

Zach brown would be nice

They've gotta get more athletic in the front 7

I liked KPL playing against Dallas. I'd like to see him and Ragland play together more

This is why Alex is starting this entire year. This is the last shot for the old guys to get it done, then a purge will happen in 2018.

Yep. Maybe part of an Alex Smith trade with JVille.

Alex for a LB and picks. I’m game.

Wow. Lol. Awful idea.

You have to love the use of the apostrophe, though. :)

Yep. They also have some good DL's and CB's. They're a defensively - loaded team. Makes sense for KC to deal with them. They're the latest, "QB Away " Team. We have one. Makes sense for both teams to listen. :shrug:

LMAO

I don't see Jacksonville giving us any of their players on defense for Smith... certainly none that we would want.

We'll be aiming for that 1st rounder.

That’s fine also. Get a 1st and a 4th for alex


Or 2 2nds.

Doubtful that we get a first for Alex IMO.

Alex and a 2 for Ramsey would be amazing

We will get more than that

We don’t know how Veach will draft yet

Lol

Seriously doubt a team will pay a first round pick for 34 year old Alex Smith.

Browns were willing to trade a 2nd and 3rd for AJ McCarron. All it takes is one dumb team.

Apology accepted.

Jacksonville's defense is Super Bowl ready right now. And sure they're pretty young, but not all of their defenders are. That team will be ready to make the leap this offseason after getting a taste of success this year and they likely aren't going to be in position to draft a QB that's worth a damn, if any are.

If I'm Veach, I demand their 1st. They will bite.

They're not going to give up on a 25-year old QB that easily IMO.

Oh I think they will. They know what he is. He is a turnover machine and he almost blew another game last week until the Chargers did their thing. Not to mention he has a massive 5th year option in 2018 pending.

Jacksonville 'needs' an Alex Smith. It's the perfect set up. He gets to lean on their defense and Leonard Fournette, and they have a really good set of WRs. They will want a QB who just takes care of the ball and lets their defense win games.

It's a marriage made in Heaven, but it will come at a cost.

AJ McCarron isn't 34 years old.

He's also never established himself as even a decent starter.

Oh.

Yeah, they can cut him and save 20 million ****ing dollars.

https://overthecap.com/player/blake-bortles/2942

Yeah...I can see it now.

Problem is there will be other, cheaper veteran QB options for Jax to pick from then paying a high price for Alex Smith. Alex maybe be the best of the crop but he will also be the most expensive salary wise and what they would have to give up to get him.

Well, that's why we really need him to get back on track and avoid any more of these pumpkin Smith games. If he finishes the year strong and truly does look like a MVP candidate, his value will match the price.

Not to mention, Bortles' 2018 option is near $20M anyways, so Jacksonville was already theoretically planning on having to pay a QB that much money.

yea but if Jax is looking at a 1st for Smith or a 4th for Eli to get them to the same place next year which is like 10-6, 11-5 and a playoff loss, then the cheaper option is a no brainer, they can use the 1st to keep stacking their defense.

this is only if you look at the assets as more valuable then a 34 year old QB on a 18 million cap hit which maybe NFL GMs have finally started to learn their lesson?

Surely NYG will want more than a 4th for Manning... if that's all they are willing to give, then yeah, we'd need to look for alternatives

All of this is true, its ideal for all sides involved

Not so sure they pony up a #1 though, getting back the two seconds we gave up would be perfect though

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One of the reasons the Chiefs are at year 47, they don't know when to cut ties with players.

That and 49er reject QBs.

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Hammock came on some nice blonde tits last night. Chiefs are 0-0 when he's done that before

Do you have to be so vulgar?

What did the Chiefs give up for Trent Green? Wasn't he about 34?

He was 30 or 31 I think

That's why I would like to see the switch. Keep Houston and K-pass rushing the passer. Stronger between the tackles vs the run.

Not shocked by Hali or Wilson but what's Ford's problem?

He seems to have been banged up all year...

Back injury.

I rest my ****ing case

I would like Boss and Pugs to tell me who in the **** would be dumb enough to give a first rd pick for Alex Smith.

At this point you sit him. The worst we get from it is a 3rd rd comp, and I'll take it.

****ing do it, Veach.