I'm guessing teams are playing Cover 2 and Cover 4 in equal amounts, and disguising the corners in Cover 2 so it looks like they are playing Cover 4 at the snap.

Smith doesn't know whether to get ready to load up (since he predetermines deep throws so much) or look for the underneath route.

His little robot QB brain is just sparking and misfiring all over the place.

but the Gigabits

LMAO

And cloud storage.

The gigabits that runs in the middle of the field to get tackled with 8 seconds left and only one timeout. Those gigabits?

Holy ****, that's almost as bad as throwing OOB on the last play of the game - or snapping the ball with 10-15 seconds left in a playoff game where you're shitting the bed and keep putting the defense on the field in the 2nd half.

There's more, but **** it.

Alex Smith:

http://media.giphy.com/media/hvPwjjB7cOyXu/giphy.gif

Cover 2 weakness is the outside "gap" between corner and safety, and the deep middle seams. The first requires a strong arm, the second requires the attitude of "I wanna destroy this defense." Smith has neither. But Mahomes...

Basically this.

Does anyone else remember the play against Seattle during the preseason where Mahomes stuck one on the sideline to Jehu Chesson about 20-25 yards down field? That was cover 2. And that was an arm that can beat it with ease.

To be fair, all the NFL base coverages are used at all levels. Cover 1, Cover 3, quarters, 2 man-under, and Cover 2. The NFL just has a lot more creativity with how they implement it.

Lots of high schools run a 4-3, but they aren't NFL level 4-3 defenses.

Here's the video of Mahomes beating cover 2 with a great ball to Chesson. Go to 2:28.

https://youtu.be/6ilh_Z7NEl8

Throwing to a nobody with nobody blocking blocking.

Not a great play, but it's definitely one Smith doesn't make.

Well to some degree yes but even to a bigger degree is our horrific o-line rush and pass blocking. Pass blocking wasn't bad yesterday but we still can't open up any holes. When you can't run the ball it makes it that much easier to defense us and especially with a QB who has PTSD in pocket who gets happy feet if the primary is covered you can totally put the onus on AS if your the defense to beat you and your seeing the result.

Shut KH down and challenge AS to beat you. We are seeing more gimmick plays because we can't run the ball. You don't need gimmick plays hardly at all IF you are shoving the ball down the defense's throat in the run game.

You are correct about a totally different offense with McNabb/Vick/Garcia/Kolb BUT the reason is because they had very good offensive lines and could run the ball.

A shell shocked QB with a below average o-line is a recipe for losing. When you can't run the ball you are soooooo limited as an offense and become predictable.

This.


All day long this.

Yep. Hope they lose if Smith starts. Totally fed up and I bet the players are too.

Hey guys, life long Chiefs fan. I have lurked these forums for a while but never made an account until now. I have been active on the Chiefs Reddit page, and it turns out advocating for Mahomes is very unpopular over there.. who would have thought? Figured I would make an account here so I can hang out with the cool kids. Some of you on here are pretty brutal tho so be gentle at first or use lube or something.

I've never been a Smith dickrider but tried to give him the benefit of the doubt pretty much the whole time he has been a Chief up until now. With the people who ride or die with him its never his fault and always this, that, or the third excuse that he doesn't get it done. Poor line play, no WRs, the wind, poor play calling, poor coaching, or anything else under the sun to deflect blame. I'm all aboard the Mahomes train now. I was at the game this Sunday and got to witness Smith shit the bed in real time and it was the last straw for me. It was excruciating. Bottom line is a QB is rarely ever going to have a perfect or ideal situation around him, and while Smith is not the worst, he is one of those guys that would literally need everything around him to be absolutely perfect and have a #1 defense on the other side of the ball if he was ever going to win anything, sort of like a Trent Dilfer or Brad Johnson type. Also, I think a lot of the play calling that people harp on is a result of the way the offense is run to live within Smith's limited skill set. We shouldn't HAVE to be running gimmick plays to try and make things happen.

Look, nothing against Smith personally, he seems like a great person and I do appreciate his contributions to helping get us out of the mess we were in prior to 2013, but this is a business and when its time, its time. Everyone always mentions what a "true professional" he is, so he should understand, right? He will likely be a starter somewhere else after KC. He'll get another shot, but we moved up to draft the kid for a reason.

Welcome to CP, iDeal

You're probably going to absolutely love and hate this place simultaneously for a long time.

I agree with the Brit Chief!

https://youtu.be/PG9GtSpBuNY

Everyone thinks that starting Mahomes means we are mailing it in. I think keeping Smith at QB is doing the same. Andy will not change QBs. He respects Smith and will let him play out his last KC season
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Welcome to the board. You'll like it here sometimes.

Exactly. I view it more as a Smith/Kaepernick situation.

Those guys are dumb homers.

Welcome to THE place on the internet for Chiefs talk that actually tells it like it is.

My body is ready for Mahomes. We all know how this ends with Alex in the playoffs.
I've sat through enough of those offensive shitshows for a lifetime.

Sometimes is good enough for me. Reminds me of how I like being a Chiefs fan sometimes.

I would be willing to bet that those very same people would forget all about Smith if PMII came in and lit it up.. Then they would say they were for it the whole time.. ROFL

Reddit sucks anyways. JMO.

Playoffs? You talking about playoffs? I just hope we can win a game.

It's time.

Welcome to the forum. **** Smith. Go Mahomes!

Also, since you're a n00b, please consider sucking 20 AIDS dicks and drinking a gallon of antifreeze!

I’ll gladly lose to the Bills if it’s the last Alex Smith start.


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I'll see your anti-freeze and raise you sulfuric acid.

Hindsight is 50/50, but this genious looks like he's off to a pretty good start here.

Lots of brutal honesty there, but it is kinda weird to see Chris Simms going so hard in the paint. He doesn't really have any room to talk considering his career.

But both of them are correct that Mahomes has special talent. Everyone knows it. He can make plays that very few QB's in the league can make. If Alex can't succeed while playing within the offense, maybe they should shake it up with some freestyle Mahomes action.

“Be careful what you wish for, lest it come true.”

Chiefs could easily lose this game. Wonder how far up or down they'd have to be (or how bad Smith would have to play) before Andy put Mahomes in the game. Not wishing for an injury though. Doing that would be sickening and disgusting ...
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Good OLs early in McNabbs career. Below average after that. Eagles had lots if OL problems. Those issues go away when you have a qb who is either lightning quick getting rid of the ball or who know how to create. Mahomes is definitely in that latter category. Maybe to a fault. I suspect that with this same OL, people will be shocked at how much better they look with a different qb. I personally hope mahomes matures to the point where he can both read the defense and create which is why I'm good with him learning from the bench early on.

Sign me up

"Not producing to the level of Jared Goff, Russell Wilson or even Philip Rivers isn't a crime. Not being able to play as well as Trevor Siemian or C.J. Beathard is a travesty."

This all day long :shake:

Mahomes had terrible protection at Texas Tech. He can handle a little extra pressure.

He definitely can, but he won't have to... this offensive line is actually pretty damn good in pass protection. Probably a top 12 unit, if not top 10. Alex just makes them look way, way worse with his pocket presence.

I don't like that the KC media is automatically going to the "he'd be a senior in college right now" bullshit. "He just graduated high school 3 years ago!".

Mitch Trubisky only played 13 games in college.
Last year at this time, Jared Goff was younger than Pat Mahomes and he played.

Pat has been here for 7 months now. He should be ready to play.

correct again.

This is pissing me off! I thought Terez knew what he is talking about. I respect his takes. I am surprised.

Yeah I thought that whole deal was pretty ignorant myself. He's 22. What's the difference next year when he's still 22 to start the season?

He told you he doesn't like you like that...

We have lost 4 out of 5 with SD and Oakland with easy games coming up and people are like "Well, if this continues....then you bench him....." I'M GONNA BLOW A GASKET!!!!!


I'll be back, I have to go cool off. The stupidity is mystifying to me..

Reid wont play him because it would mean he couldn't call all of his bull shit plays.

Well, bye

I'm sure Andy would be soooooo upset that he would have to go back and call a regular ****ing offense.

Which brings up a good point?

Maybe Reid won't bench Smith because he's already installed this gimmick college offense and doesn't want the rest of the offense to have to switch courses in the middle of the season. Thoughts?

If you're hypothesizing about that, i would say it's a touch more likely that he's keeping it uber vanilla to try and coast through as many games as possible to keep certain set pieces in his pocket for the playoffs.

Bullshit. You mean like last year's 13 point explosion against pitt? Stack the line, play zone. Check mate.

It really does piss me off that there's not very many passing plays under center. They telegraph running plays because practically all of the Chiefs passing plays are in the shotgun

Based on the way Paylor and co are acting about this, it would seem like they were told in one way or another that if they pushed controversy and division... their access would be severely limited

Reid will be damned if he has to deal with a bunch of Sal Paolantonios in KC, IMO

He will still call plenty of bullshit plays.

But one way out of bullshit plays is a guy who knows how to create. First of all, actually throwing to your receivers instead of the checkdown. Secondly, getting creative by throwing on the run.

McNabb was a big time freelancer. Anyone who thinks Andy's style doesn't mesh with mahomes needs to look at what made McNabb and Favre successful. They will be very similar qbs.

My point was that I am confident Alex knows more of the offense at this point. He would have to slow down for a Rookie.

I agree that Mahomes suits Reid.

Knowing the offense means jack when a cover 2 mystifies yo ass. Bench the robot. **** the chiefs, they are more concerned about not having a QB controversy than winning.

I think the argument would be if we're not going anywhere this year with Smith, we'd rather get that learning curve out of the way this year vs next year. But overall I'm not opposed to waiting until next year even if I think Alex takes us nowhere. Gives mahomes a better chance to be immediately successful and boosts Alex smith's trade value, which I think will be pretty high.

Really? Based on what? If you keep him in there, they will not win another game

I would like to get a stat of outdoor games that Alex has started in, where the wind gusts above 20 mph, and give me his win loss record. That'd be an interesting statistic.

Boosts our draft position?

Keep playing him and see what his value is when we miss the playoffs because he won't throw against a cover two.

We should have traded Alex Smith before the trade deadline but now each week Alex Smith plays he loses value.

The Chiefs aren't paying for a $16.5m backup qb. If mahomes is guaranteed the starting job, then teams know Alex Smith will be cut. So why trade? If we walk into next season with a qb controversy there's no guarantee we cut Alex. I wouldn't be surprised if we see the Chiefs continue to undermine mahomes' development until Alex is traded. Maybe that's what they're doing right now.

The other thing I think about is if mahomes isnt successful right away, will the team reconsider keeping Alex next year. I don't want that. I want Alex gone next year with no controversy whatsoever (assuming he doesn't somehow pull a 180 in the playoffs, which I doubt he will)

Much as I cringe to think about watching Alex the rest of the year, I think it sets up a nice long game for next year

Alex is gone after 2017

Let me sum it up for you, his record would be ass. Straight, unfiltered, unadulterated, ass.

I agree. Problem is, he picked a really shitty time to play like an MVP the first month of the season. That would have been a really hard trade to sell.

I would have traded him before the season, brought in a veteran backup, done.

I hope and I think so. But they can still bullshit other teams into thinking they don't plan to cut him. Especially if they sell the story that mahomes isn't ready yet.

**** ALEX. They are stupid as ****. **** whatever pick we get for him. The future success of the franchise doesn't ride on that shit. I don't give a **** what we get or don't get for this pussy, I just want his ass gone.

Do you ever shut the **** up or at least find something new to spew?

Reid benched McNabb who he drafted and who took them to a SB.

WTH do people think he wouldn't bench Smith? Thats ridiculous.

No he doesn't.

I think the time is Perfect for Mahomes, Chiefs should win the division too so he'll likely get to play a first Play-off game.

Smith and Reid have been lucky the last 2 games have been on the road with a Bye week thrown in too. If they pull that shit at Arrowhead look out.

100,000 views and 1,000 shares on the Mahomes video. 230,000 people reached. My god.

Because Chiefs

and a lot of plays that look like Smith....but against the 2nd stringers

Which video?

No, and I won't until he is no longer starting. Deal with it!

Hey, every village needs an idiot. Congrats on the promotion.</br></br> Enjoy standing on the corner rambling like an idiot with your "The End Is Near" sign while people continue to learn you're nothing more than the village idiot.