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Rasputin 11-26-2017 05:35 AM

I find the excuse that Mahomes has to learn the playbook as bunk. Andy Reid had to change the offense up for Alex Smith what he did in College as a Ute to his best abilities and that includes the shovel pass. So the offense needs to change to the quarterback not the quarterback change to system. Of course Patrick needs to learn the terminology but he has proved to be smart he should have everything down by now.


This offense can open up the playbook with Patrick than it can with Alex Smith. Patrick just has talent that Alex could only dream of.

Chiefs Moon 11-26-2017 06:03 AM

Alex Smith has been terrible the past several games. Mahomes couldn't be any worse. The Chiefs are currently in first place. Reid may not want to put in Mahomes and see the Chargers overtake them. This may happen with Alex Smith, but I get why they wouldn't want to start Mahomes for a few more games. That sucks.

Rasputin 11-26-2017 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Moon (Post 13237216)
Alex Smith has been terrible the past several games. Mahomes couldn't be any worse. The Chiefs are currently in first place. Reid may not want to put in Mahomes and see the Chargers overtake them. This may happen with Alex Smith, but I get why they wouldn't want to start Mahomes for a few more games. That sucks.

The thing is what if Patrick ****ing blows the doors off with this offense? I mean Jesus H Merican Christ here. His talent and smarts makes him the quarterback that gives us the best chance of winning meaningful games this year. In preseason he made guys like DAT into super stud. He elevates players around him the offense line will look like maulers. They will have a guy that doens't abandon the play but extends it out to give his playmakers opportunities to make plays. That's simply what Alex Smith doesn't do.

ARROW2 11-26-2017 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 13237218)
The thing is what if Patrick ****ing blows the doors off with this offense? I mean Jesus H Merican Christ here. His talent and smarts makes him the quarterback that gives us the best chance of winning meaningful games this year. In preseason he made guys like DAT into super stud. He elevates players around him the offense line will look like maulers. They will have a guy that doens't abandon the play but extends it out to give his playmakers opportunities to make plays. That's simply what Alex Smith doesn't do.

Sad we have to watch lame duck ass

Rasputin 11-26-2017 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 13237228)
Sad we have to watch lame duck ass

I know **sigh**

BlackHelicopters 11-26-2017 07:22 AM

No

Rasputin 11-26-2017 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 13237238)
No

You misspelled Yes.

In58men 11-26-2017 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13236729)
Moron

No reason to start him. Starting or sitting 6 MEANINGLESS games won’t make or break his career. Keep him on the bench and healthy for 2018.

Rausch 11-26-2017 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 13237228)
Sad we have to watch lame duck ass

It's awesome that we actually have a lame duck.

It means we finally have a QBOTF...

Rausch 11-26-2017 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 13237279)
No reason to start him. Starting or sitting 6 MEANINGLESS games won’t make or break his career. Keep him on the bench and healthy for 2018.

This...

oldman 11-26-2017 08:40 AM

There's no reason to start him today. He's had limited snaps with the 1s this week and you have an instant QB controversy. While that's what many here want, the kid is unproven and may lay an egg, driving a couple of members into such deep depression that they leave CP forever. Gosh, who'd want that?
No, the best case scenario would be somewhere in the 2nd, Chiefs up 14-0, Smith gets nicked on his non-throwing hand/shoulder. Mahomes comes in. lights it up, Chiefs win 40-7. Bills score on a late pick-6 thrown into triple coverage, just a rookie mistake that he learns from. Smith's injury isn't serious, but lingers next week and plays the backup role. No QB controversy. Next best would be the kid doesn't light it up, but gets valuable playing time while Smith is available if needed.

Rasputin 11-26-2017 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by oldman (Post 13237299)
There's no reason to start him today. He's had limited snaps with the 1s this week and you have an instant QB controversy. While that's what many here want, the kid is unproven and may lay an egg, driving a couple of members into such deep depression that they leave CP forever. Gosh, who'd want that?
No, the best case scenario would be somewhere in the 2nd, Chiefs up 14-0, Smith gets nicked on his non-throwing hand/shoulder. Mahomes comes in. lights it up, Chiefs win 40-7. Bills score on a late pick-6 thrown into triple coverage, just a rookie mistake that he learns from. Smith's injury isn't serious, but lingers next week and plays the backup role. No QB controversy. Next best would be the kid doesn't light it up, but gets valuable playing time while Smith is available if needed.


Yet he would be thrust right in the game if Alex Smith got his brains concussed once again.


I swear what a bunch of pussy ****ing cowards a bunch is.

Play the kid and watch him take over this offense like a general.

Rasputin 11-26-2017 08:46 AM

Who cares about the controversy. If you didn't want controversy then watch another sport. OH wait good luck finding a sport without controversy.



Alex Smith needs to feel the heat its the only time he plays well if he thinks his job is on the line. He got complacent and all of a sudden not doing the things he was doing start of the season or something isn't right with him. Take him out give the kid opportunity to shine.

Rausch 11-26-2017 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 13237305)
I swear what a bunch of pussy ****ing cowards a bunch is.

Play the kid and watch him take over this offense like a general.

You don't rush a roast.

Now that we finally have what we've always wanted why would we WILLINGLY do anything that would **** it up?

I have ADD.

You have QB-ADD...

Rasputin 11-26-2017 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 13237316)
You don't rush a roast.

Now that we finally have what we've always wanted why would we WILLINGLY do anything that would **** it up?

I have ADD.

You have QB-ADD...

So you like your steak burnt? How about nice juicy medium rare steak sound good to me.


He has had half the season already that's been plenty of time for him to learn.


Get him some playing time this year so he can be that much better next year. Who knows maybe he can propel us in the playoffs this year. He can outplay Alex Smith as it is today.

Coogs 11-26-2017 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 13237316)
You don't rush a roast.

Now that we finally have what we've always wanted why would we WILLINGLY do anything that would **** it up?

I have ADD.

You have QB-ADD...

I'm not sure playing him now would qualify as rushing it. He has had 3 months to learn more.

If you look at Philadelphia, Wentz is proving you don't need 6 years to command this offense. Send him out there with what he knows, and get some on the job training.

Rasputin 11-26-2017 08:54 AM

Patrick Mahomes II is use to passing 60+ a game it's not going to "ruin" him if he plays today.

Rausch 11-26-2017 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 13237320)
So you like your steak burnt? How about nice juicy medium rare steak sound good to me.


He has had half the season already that's been plenty of time for him to learn.

For some QB's, yes.

For him - no.

Clearly no. Unless you choose to only look at the positives and have somehow purged the negatives in some strange "Eternal Sunshine" way.

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 13237320)
He can outplay Alex Smith as it is today.

Alex is still a top 10 rated QB by any metric.

This statement is ****ing stupid...

oldman 11-26-2017 08:54 AM

I'm not saying don't play him, it's just not going to be an instant SB run if he's on the field as many here feel. I'd like to see what the kid has before we anoint him savior of the franchise.

Rasputin 11-26-2017 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 13237324)
For some QB's, yes.

For him - no.

Clearly no. Unless you choose to only look at the positives and have somehow purged the negatives in some strange "Eternal Sunshine" way.



Alex is still a top 10 rated QB by any metric.

This statement is ****ing stupid...

Bullshit and you don't know he can't I'd just like to find out because I believe he can.

Alex is lame quarterback that doesn't have "IT"

Patrick brings "IT" factor. He will shine with opportunity.

He can play anyways if Alex Smith goes down so I don't see the difference than making the switch now.

Rasputin 11-26-2017 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by oldman (Post 13237325)
I'm not saying don't play him, it's just not going to be an instant SB run if he's on the field as many here feel. I'd like to see what the kid has before we anoint him savior of the franchise.

It's not about winning a Super Bowl this year we all can agree we wont' smiff the Super Bowl with Alex Smith so why not give the offense a jolt of Patrick Mahomes II lighting and give him experience and Veeche an idea of what the needs will be to help build a team around him.

Rausch 11-26-2017 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 13237322)
I'm not sure playing him now would qualify as rushing it. He has had 3 months to learn more.

If you look at Philadelphia, Wentz is proving you don't need 6 years to command this offense.

He's not Wentz, he's PM.

Rausch 11-26-2017 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 13237331)
Bullshit and you don't know he can't I'd just like to find out because I believe he can.

I don't know what this means.

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 13237331)
Alex is lame quarterback that doesn't have "IT"

Patrick brings "IT" factor. He will shine with opportunity.

He can play anyways if Alex Smith goes down so I don't see the difference than making the switch now.

Starting PM might be more exciting but is it the best move for his future?

I don't care about this season. I don't think we have what we need this season with any QB.

Rausch 11-26-2017 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 13237337)
...and Veeche an idea of what the needs will be to help build a team around him.

It should pretty clear to Veeche already what this team needs...

oldman 11-26-2017 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 13237305)
Yet he would be thrust right in the game if Alex Smith got his brains concussed once again.

Again, I'm not saying don't play the kid, what I am saying is don't throw him to the wolves unless it's necessary or he's had some prep time. He'll be the man soon enough. Even you admitted that we're not going on a SB run.

Rausch 11-26-2017 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by oldman (Post 13237355)
Again, I'm not saying don't play the kid, what I am saying is don't throw him to the wolves unless it's necessary or he's had some prep time. He'll be the man soon enough. Even you admitted that we're not going on a SB run.

This...


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