Next year will be the golden boys first season. There's a lot of eggs in one basket here. And I think people are just worried that a guy coaching RBs for a living with two lackluster seasons at Colorado under his belt might scramble those eggs. We've waited almost 30 years to acquire that ****ing basket and we don't want to wait another 30 years more because of the wrong OC hire.

Everyone is just cautious and for good measure. I'm not a fan of Bieniemy but I trust Reid. He's not going to let his hand picked messiah deteriorate in front of his very own eyes.

Yup.

Did you even read the information on him above?

It reads like he just may have been around offenses for a while and wasn't forced to wear blinders.

Just because he was a RB doesn't mean he was quarantined from the rest of the offense.

Andy Reid.

Al Harris as DC would be a monumental leap for him, but in current circumstances I wouldnt be fired up and pissed off about it... everyone seems to want youngblood guys like Sean McVay these days

Is anyone going to tell me Harris is less qualified than McVay with a straight face?

Its time for some new energy, not only on this team, but in the NFL in general... Bienemy, Harris, and grand wizard Reid overseeing it all

I simply ask... why not?

Maybe I'm wrong, but lets hear the reasons why

Sutton is not going anywhere and if they are not offered enough for Smith he will be here next year as well.

Really don't love this move. Priority 1 is to develop the hell out of Mahomes and this is the first time in Andy Reid's 18 years that his offensive coordinator has no experience coaching QBs. And the guy coaching QBs is young and inexperienced. If they plan to backfill Childress with an experienced QB handler and passing game handler, fine. But if not... ugh, why now to have so little staff experience handling QBs?

I remember him when he played for San Diego and was Natrone Means' backup.

Strewth.

Childress retired yesterday.

To me, this is the equivalent of giving the keys of a Lamborghini to a guy that drives peterbilts for a living.

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Announcement should have read "We have named Eric Bieniemy Andy's hand puppet."

Which is why I said they should backfill him. Childress retiring is even worse because it takes 2 experienced QBs coaches including Nagy out of the equation for us.

Worst case scenario is Reid personally takes control of Mahomes development, and thats going to be ok with me

As long as he gives something up to balance it out

Because Chiefs...

**** it, either fire the whole staff and start over, or it doesn't matter Because Reid, Because Chiefs.

Apparently, and no offense, you don't know much, if anything, about Sean McVay.

Well then tell me what you know about the guy, hotshot

Let me guess, you just knew he was going to be a ****ing stud, amirite?

It won't matter when Mahomes is calling his own plays in real time at the LOS. =P

I'm not sure that Bienemy would be expected to design the offense. That's Andy's strength. What Eric needs to be able to do is to implement that offense on game days. Because as smart as Reid is at designing plays, he just can't seem to figure out which of those plays call based on the defense and the down and distance. I mean, every play that Nagy was calling was out of Reid's playbook. But he knew better than Andy what plays to call when the defense adjusted to the game plan. It was painfully evident midseason and Saturday night that Reid just can't adjust on the fly. Will Bienemy be better, and more importantly, will Reid let him? We can only hope.

I'd coordinate his offense any day. Meee-ow.

I already knew this because I read it on CP.

Apparently you missed Nagy saying he called every play in the second half.

This hiring represents consistency and status quo. Because we haven't won anything, most people are naturally not going to be happy with it.

He's a middle-aged African American coach in the NFL who doesn't fit the profile of exciting.

Had we hired some up-and-comer that looks like Sean McVay or Matt Nagy or Kevin from This is Us, the reaction here would be different.

No one knows what he's capable of with this offense and it's pointless to get too high or low on the decision. Mahomes's abilities will ultimately be a far more important factor in our success next season.

That seetles that....a qb without the necessary pieces

Mahomes will suffer

Okay, you're gonna be a dick?

Sean McVay GREW UP around football his entire life. His grandfather was the GM of the San Francisco 49ers, who drafted and built their dynasty, which included 5 Super Bowl wins. He was exposed to Joe Montana, Steve Young, Bill Walsh, Mike Holmgren, Jerry Rice and others at an early age.

His first coaching gig was at age 21 under John Gruden and he coached Wide Receivers, Tight Ends and QB's before becoming the Redskins offensive coordinator.

And yes, I had a feeling that he was a good hire, especially since he hired Wade Phillips to run his defense.

Very good points - all of them.

Mahomes had a **** ton of tutelage in his redshirt year, guys. He had Reid, Nagy, Kafka, and Childress. And as much as I hate that miserable prick, Alex Smith definitely mentored him along.

He doesn't need a ****ing village to survive being our starting QB. He has a QB coach (or he will, anyway... probably Kafka). His head coach is offensive-minded and has decades of experience working with QBs. That's plenty. It's more than a lot of young QBs get who end up having success in the NFL.

Mahomes had a lot of support that first year. That was the most important year to get that support. He's going to be ****ing fine.

Reid's issues are clock management and going into a conservative shell with his play calling.

By all accounts, Reid got almost all the credit for turning Favre into a hall of famer from the meh dude with a great arm that came out of college.

McNabb had all kinds of holes in his game. Everyone credits Reid with turning McNabb into a perennial Pro Bowler.

That's a good enough track record to trust Reid to bring Mahomes to his full potential.

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That's reeruned plenty of people got hyped when that fat **** that looked like Jabba the Hutt Charlie Weis was hired.

Most people aren't excited for the most logical reason: It's our new QB's first year and we're worried a RB coach turned OC might affect his development negatively.

Good...Reid is now the qb coach
Who do we get for head coach

he is also damn good at designing offenses that confuse and make defenses account for more things than most coaches.

Hiring an OC from the outside would require some kind of assurance that the new guy would have the playcalling duties and Andy Reid isn't giving that up. Bieniemy is just another partial OC who gets to listen to Andy make the calls during the games. He is an OC trainee who can use this to get a real OC job somewhere else.

We will never have a real OC while Andy Reid is here.

Sadly, this is how I’m leaning on the whole deal.

Andy’s ego is bigger than his compression socks.

No, you're a ****ing dick with you're newly acquired 'passive' aggressive bullshit... LMAO 'dont you dare disagree with me The Great Dane!'

Get a grip on yourself

We were cool for a veeery long time, but you've been after me hard since the age of Trump, so bite me... I know what this all boils down to

Lets be clear... Sean McVay doesnt have a goddamn thing on Al Harris football-wise, I dont care if Sean suckled on Joe Montanas tit as a toddler

If Sean can be a head coach at such a young age, Al freaking Harris is likely capable of being a DC... and who knows if that even happens, and I never claimed it would, but you're clearly just being a dick for the sake of stroking your own ego

ROFL

Charlie Weis had been the OC with the gold standard team of the NFL only to be followed by a head coaching position at one of the top college programs. Plenty of reason why people would have been more hyped about him than a journeyman position coach in the NFL.

I'm just saying no one has any ****ing idea. These flashy young guys have no more success than others - you just tend to remember them more when they do (ohhhh, Sean McVay......). Survivorship bias at its best.

Bieniemy has consistently gotten a lot out of RBs. No one typically starts out as an OC. You gotta have success somewhere.

Bienemy has done a fine job with the running backs and I like him just fine but this is about Andy wanting to have fun playing with the offense. Reid will continue to avoid hiring a fulltime offensive coordinator so he doesn't have to relinquish control.

He won't hire a QB coach either

HC,OC and QB coach is too much for any single person and our team is suffering from it.

Sunshine Planet.

I take a contrarian view on the Bieniemy hire and get ripped. Don’t you fools see what is happening here? More status quo, more subservience to Andy. Our best offensive mind and qb groomer left for Chicago. You think Bieniemy is going to get the best out of Mahomes? Kafka? Lol - he barely has a coaching pedigree yet. Bieniemy might be a good voice for the team, a great motivator and a coach who preaches accountability. I highly doubt he was promoted for innovation or play-calling acumen. Andy’s fetish for playcalling will continue to not be threatened.

What will be sold as a loyalty hire is actually a disguise for Andy in keeping things in check. For those saying “Well now Bieniemy can be the voice for bringing balance to the playcalling...” - Well where the **** was his voice Saturday?
Why not interview externally to pick the brains of the up and coming great offensive minds regarding Mahomes? The roster in general? Scheme?
WHY NOT SEND A MESSAGE TO YOUR FRANCHISE/CURRENT STAFF THAT STATUS QUO IS NO LONGER ACCEPTABLE AND ACCOUNTABILITY WILL BE DEMANDED?

Instead we get more of the same.

Don’t get me started on Sutton....

Figured this was the way it would go.

Wouldn’t be surprised to see Bienemy end up a head coach sooner than later

More bullshit from the chiefs.

Live from Arrowhead; "Starring Eric Bieniemy in The Foot-Shuffling Porter".

The understudy for the starring role will be played by Gunther Cunningham.

Not exciting.

Forgive me all knowing precognitive grammar police asshat.

You’re ****ing stupid.

You don’t know dick. You didn’t know damn thing about McVay yet you’re offended that I did.

That makes you a butt****ing moron.

Also, you bald dickface, do you have ANY idea of what’s kind of coaching prodigy he must be securing a job as a WR coach on an NFL team at age 21?

Of course you don’t because you don’t know shit. You’re just another uninformed butt**** that posts on a football forum.

His voice was buried under the title of running backs coach

Give the guy a chance, he is a running back and will surely push balance every chance he gets

Thats a definite plus

Let Reid worry about the passing game

Reid has a pretty damn good track record with his coaching staff. Be nice if he put a future HC in at DC. And some future DC’s on the defensive staff.

Hopefully our new OC puts some nasty on our offense. Pushes some teams around.

Says the butt****ing moron that said Eric Berry is a liability against the run.

Yes, I did miss that. I thought that it came out that Reid called the second half?

I think Al Harris would do fine. But if the Mike Lombardi rumors are true, the Chiefs will look outside the Ryan system. And I'm very cool with that. So I'd rather look outside. Especially since Andy seems cool delegating to the DC, unlike what he does at OC.

This is right.

You got ripped for your dumbshit take of, "Waaaahhh! An in-house hire who's not a QB! Mahomes is going to refuse to stay in KC!"

You know what Mahomes ****ing cares about right now? Setting the NFL on fire. That's going to take time. Bieniemy isn't even going to call plays (at least I assume this to be the case). Why the hell would he have a beef with him?

Newsflash: Alex Smith, this dude with supposed "standards for winning" that people are talking about, never gave a shit if Andy Reid derped around with the playcalling, even if it was in the playoffs. He signed a goddamn longterm extension with us.

You can hate the hire. I'm not exactly thrilled with it either, but I'm also not cutting off my own dick to spite my face.

You're going to have to show me where I said that. I'm not suckling EB's testicles any more because he missed over 40 games in his 8 year career and after knees, Achilles, and cancer I'm not sure he will still be the Savior everyone makes him out. I didn't say he was a liability against the run. I'm more afraid of Berry losing a step against the pass when he's covering /making up for CB mistakes and lack of ability other than Peters.

Given the circumstances, I think promoting Eric Bieniemy was fair. Not exciting, but he's done good enough work with the RBs to deserve a shot.

Dick

Stupid

Baldface butt****ing moron

Lick my butthole you butt****ing moron

Seriously man, you're a legit manchild, why some people here constantly defer to, and kiss your emotionally stunted ass, is well beyond me... you're the biggest damn baby here and you have been for at least 10 years LMAO

I'll tell you this, I've never let some part time Raider troll send me packing for a year or so... it seriously eats into your soul to have some stranger disagree with you on a message board, to the point that you have to go into this shopworn, name calling fit

Your act is tired, and if I end up on the short end of this little laugher so be it... I still win, because you're still a big fat manchild with a skin made out of crepe paper

Your name calling will never, ever drive me away... so keep on raging on at anyone who dares to disagree with Mighty Dane!

So Andy Reid is the OC....gotcha...

Ahhh "Dane I KNOW EVERYTHING" my personal favorite moment is when he PMed me and asked me if I wanted to start a war with him.

Just realize he is the type of guy who is very unstable...

That mfer is well into his 50s and is still acting like this

You want me to fly you here to LA so I can beat your ass?

Laugh

Out

Loud

I used to like the guy for many reasons, but this tired ass tough guy shtick needs to go

Disagreeing with him about ANYTHING is asking for some kind of endless intraweb war... **** that shit, its childish as it could be

I still wonder if Andy will fill Childress' spot. I would be very cool with the Bienemy hire if they did. Andy did an underrated job innovating the offense with spread concepts. He's gotta be looking at the Jets WCO with Air Raid and wondering how we incorporate more of that into our offense. Would be really cool if we replaced Childress with a college coach who's seen a lot of innovative college looks.

Well.....do you?

If he's looking for where I supposedly said Eric Berry was a liability against the run he'll be gone a while. I said Dee Ford was a liability against the run but apparently grammar is his specialty, not reading comprehension.

He has the big money, he can come to us

Yeah, sure.

ROFL

You know, you’re a ****ing loser.

Washed out of Hollywood, washed out of marriages and relationships, washed out any career.

In my initial post, I said “No Offense”

Instead, you took offense, even though it involved your own shortcomings.

Also, you ****ing hypocrite, I told you EXACTLY why I removed myself from Chiefsplanet over on Eric’s Chiefshub. You were selling used cars at the time and said that “The Count”, one of the shows I write music for each week, “taught you so much”.

You’re a phony, a hypocrite and a loser.

You won the trifecta.

All the pieces will be in place when Alex signs

Mike Leach LMAO

Its pretty comical watching people flip out over this pick for OC.

Reid's last 2 OC's are now head coaches, you can criticize Andy on a lot of things, picking good offensive assistants and teaching them to be good coaches isn't one of them.

Hell there is an article in the Star right now talking about how 25% of the head coaches in the league are former Reid assistants or Reid.

Thats 7 other teams have Reid coaching assistants as head coaches people. A few years ago everyone was sure Sutton and Toub would be HC in the league.

LMAO you only know what I've told your dumbass

You dont know real people from a Hollywood high colonic, fact is people like you hate your own families, and would like to assume you didnt even come from them... your consistent opinions on the midwest make that very clear

Its a good thing you're out there now, because you'd be a stranger in a strange land back home, you'd basically be an alien

'No offense, but you dont know shit!'

Yeah thanks for that, its appreciated

Ok so now that he's been named the OC, which I am more than cool with, I want to hear from Andy Reid that Bieniemy will be calling the plays.

If that's not the case, then it's clear that CHunt needs to intervene.

Andy is accountable to the owner. The owner needs to make certain that Andy is still learning.

He’s a 48 year old man that’s spent all but 2 of the last 18 as a running back coach.

His only stint as an OC was a disaster in college.

There’s ample reason to believe that Reid, armed with another five years under contract, is not as concerned about the future of the Chiefs as are fans.

Don't you dare put this conversation back on topic. Let the meltdown commence!

Nagy and Pederson were former quarterbacks and had extensive knowledge of the passing game. What the hell does a god damn runningback know about the passing game in the NFL? This offense is going to be dog shit.

And who the hell is going to mentor Mahomes?

Mostly agree with this. Our house is rotting from within, and the fact it was decided so quickly doesn't inspire confidence anyone reflected long on the situation.

I am cautiously optimistic.

Maybe.. just MAYBE Reid has learned to let the OC call plays. Eric Bienemy does not abandon the run. No ****ing way.

I dont see Bienemy as the QB guy.. we have a QB Coach and Andy Reid for that.

I'll have to see it to believe it

I guess we know who will be leaving for a head coaching job after next year... at best.

At worst this represents Reid taking back the offense, which means a lot more of the second-half-of-the-Titans-game Reid offense we've come to know and loathe

Probably the guy who has built a reputation for developing QBs..

Only hope we have really.

Built a reputation on nothing, essentially