I have to hope that there was something much worse because if this is the reason then Clark Hunt is a bigger idiot then I thought.

He's to busy dealing with legal problems to make smart decisions.

Only makes sense if it's purely a PR move handed down from the dipshit owner.

Clark's only qualification for running a football team is that his daddy was rich. This whole country ****ing sucks

You don't think his quality off-field traits wouldn't ooze over to the field? Ya feel me?

So far they've oozed into him having a HOF start to his career.

So you don't think he brings any toxicity with him? You're right it seems all about him. **** him it's a team sport. I'm fittin to get loaded.

The only leverage he had was to not show up until he got a deal that paid him $20+ mil a year. Which I could see him doing. Maybe he already told the Chiefs that’s what awaited them which they’d have to disclose and could be the reason we’re getting a 2nd and a 4th for him.

Still a dumb trade.

It's not like corner backs grow on trees that's the problem. You find one you keep him so teams don't ****ing pass and make ass out of the secondary.

Now without a first round pick we have to take chances on other risk/reward corner back and hope we hit.

I’ll post this in the Peters thread to and I came up with this today. Mahomes needs to be the new leader in this locker room and maybe this was part of it. Move Peters so he can influence nor challenge him. Mahomes needs to be the alpha

That's the stinger. Peters ****ed us right there in the feels.

Have we heard from other Chiefs players yet?

Silence.

Call his bluff then. He'd be destroying his own career. Shop him now, and when they only had two shitty offers, tell Peters "Sorry we tried, now get back to work. We'll try again after next season." You really think Peters would hold out after little to no interest from other teams?

Yeah, sure, let's just ignore the fact that the guy was booted from his college team, played out of control last season, fought with his mom, called her a **** and quit on the team.

All perfectly acceptable behavior.

:facepalm:

And thanks for the response as to why many, many other teams that could have used his services, that could possibly put the team over the top and in the Super Bowl, passed.

Butt****.

I don't even know how to vote.

I'd prefer he be a decent human being that would mature with age. I seriously enjoyed watching him on the field. I didn't mind seeing his frustration. i get that. But I'm a fan, I have no clue what he's like to work with.

Would I have liked to get more compensation? Sure. Of course. Its really a punch in the gut to go from thinking we are going to have Peters, Fuller, and Berry in the backfield to Fuller, Berry and bunch of question marks.

Still I'll say this. For years we have bitched and moaned about being a team that is too set in its ways. Playing things way too conservatiely. Now we have GM in Veach who is very agressive. Making moves early and often. Some huge victories (Smith) others dampen your spirits (Peters). Still I think if we really want to see this team in the Super Bowl you have to get young and stay focused. I think Peters was a focus issue. Think about it, you are trying to build a super bowl contenders in year 2 or 3 of the Mahomes era. But yeah that pro-bowl ball hawking 25 year old CB should be part of path there but you can't trust him. Can't trust him to keep his head on straight, can't trust him to even be an option for the team when you are ready to compete.

In short I get it, I just don't like it.

What? The guy clearly hasn't changed since his college days so why give him a 4th year to change his behavior?

No this is actually detrimental to Tyreek Hill and Patrick Mahomes II because at camp it's competition and that's how they get better so Tyreek won't be challenged near as much in practice. That's going bite us.

I don't ****ing care as long as he's hauling in INTs and shutting down half the field. It's a football team, not an ethics committee.

They still will have to go at Kendall Fuller and whomever we bring in FA (Amerson and maybe a guy like Fuller) plus the draft

Of course you don't care because you don't have to micromanage him 365 days a year.

This is the same kind of attitude I get from a lot of my friends. They'd sign ISIS members if it meant a Super Bowl.

That's just silly.

F- is too generous.

Only thing worse is cutting him. That why I graded D.

It's hardly unreasonable to expect the team to manage a star player with a bad attitude when he's posting up NFL leading stats 3 years running. It's part of their job. You don't build a winning NFL team full of all nice guys.

This is so bad it hurts. It’s probably going to be a LATE 2nd pick at that......

This is my view, I waited so long for this team to draft a QB I have to stick this out but if this was still Alex Smith I doubt I'd even watch next season.

I think there's a huge difference between being aloof or quiet or even a bit angry as opposed to constant meltdowns and distractions.

Peters has been a distraction since college, which is why he's been essentially booted from both teams that initially thought he'd be easier to manage.

Clearly, he brought this upon himself.

You continue with the name calling for no apparent reason. I certainly didn't suggest that was "perfectly acceptable behavior", so I'm not sure why you'd make such a statement; literally no reason for you to lie here.

Perhaps other teams WOULD come calling when their other options didn't turn out the way they hoped they would.

Yeah, I don't buy this. I think this is going to addition by subtraction.

Leave now then because that's just dumb

My thought's exactly, there has to be more to the story. Hopefully someday we will hear it.

Forgot a CHunt role..

You act like this is a bad result for Peters. He makes out like a bandit.

Um, no

How so? To be traded for a 4th round pick?

No contract extension?

No long term stability?

No "Generational" money?

I'd say Peters ****ed himself. And the sad thing is, he probably hasn't learned a damn thing.

Brought this upon himself? What do you mean? You think Peters is upset at this outcome? Dude just made the Chiefs look like fools, and put himself in a pretty nice situation. Peters got exactly what he wanted. He won. Chiefs lost.

What Peters did here will have no bearing on what he could potentially earn in LA.

Pattern of behavior.

Booted off his college team, booted off his professional team.

Why would anyone believe that his third team would be any different?

Agree to disagree.

Wow a reasonable level headed take- rare sight.

They feel otherwise because they traded for him and if he assembles into their lockerroom and plays like he should, he's about to be the richest CB in the NFL.

I guarantee you he loves this. He’s back in Cali and in LA. Not too far from Oakland.

I really am not sure about this

why not let him play for his life one more season????? If he keeps NOT tackling and taking every other snap off, and being an idiot....then his own value drops...we still get nothing...

at least if we kept him one more year MAYBE he ****ign tries hard to finish strong and get paid...

I dont understand how people see this as the best we can do...but mayube I am wrong and just blinded by emotion right now

set me straight ya'll

the worst 2nd round pick two drafts from now?????

i guess at least that is SOMETHING...

i dunno

We should draft a pass rusher from the sun belt with it

If Albert Wilson goes away next I'm on suicide watch

Having dealt with insufferable ****s as peers and subordinates I gotta roll with Dane on this one.

Sometimes addition by subtraction is a real thing.

It just ****ing sucks because he is so productive.

All that being said, I’ve dealt with the insufferable ****s in my workplaces for far far less money than these guys are, but that doesn’t make the situation any less untenable.

That's a Grade A trade Chiefs fan. For the rest of the division!

Albert Wilson sucks

I heard Peters is so happy he's going to sing the National Anthem at the first Rams home game.

Veach gets a C-. Everyone else involved gets an F, including CHunt.

Interesting that Dorsey is getting higher ratings than Veach with this. Seems to me that he's as much to blame as anyone, while Veach just inherited the mess.

No u do

Apparently we are going to rebuild and start a rookie QB at the same time.

I love the move to go young. This trade is terrible.

I voted C for everything...

Because 'C'hiefs...?

Not sure why I should be upset. It's just a game. Everything is just a C to me now. The Royals are a C, don't care about basketball, soccer, hockey, etc.

Whatever, I just don't care anymore... C for Clark... they took a chance on a player that had major issues, from tantrums on the field, humping the coach's leg, yelling at the coaches, getting burned and whining to the referees. He was getting worse each year and finding another team that would take him probably wasn't easy.

Thank you Clark, Andy and Company.

Had to happen now. Not before the storm or after. During. We also agreed to protect the league from finding out how little we would take which I'd assume is wise in negotiations...

Least amount of blame here goes to veach. Only one I didn't give a d or lower. My grade for Brett would drop if he wasn't being forced to trade him now. With reports the locker room wasn't all against him it seems there was time but who knows. Maybe Peters was that nuts at this point. Maybe Clark or Andy gave him no choice. I'm giving Brett the benefit of the doubt but nothing about this from the timing to waiting until Peters rotted out completely looks good.

Again, anyway way you slice it, whether kc holds some responsibility or none, this is a major blow to our roster with little compensation to fix it. Resources meant to go elsewhere will now go here. The roof will continue to leak because we need to buy a new water system we just sold for scraps.

I gave everyone an F and Peters a C.

Dorsey gets a F because he drafted him and he apparently didn't know about a salary cap when handing out contracts.

Reid gets a F because it's his ****ing job to work with a player that produces on the field but doesn't read from your bible and he dumped him.

Veach gets a F because did you really have to throw in a ****ing pick as well?

Peters gets a C because we all knew when he was drafted he didn't want to be in KC his whole career and he would leave when he controlled the situation, but he still put up a historic start to a career for the Chiefs.

I am starting to really hate Andy Reid as the coach of this football team.

If Peters wasn't a problem player, then KC would have gotten more in compensation for him

He is clearly a problem

We'd be talking about an extension that makes him the highest paid CB in the NFL.

I'm pretty much here. If Alice was still QB I'd not spend another moment of time watching rebuild 12.0 take place.

Well, we are discussing the trade, and Dorsey didn't sign off or negotiate this.

I don't blame Veach. Only a mouth breathing moron would make this move without being forced, and his other moves indicate that's not the case.

Straight A across the board, except for Peters who gets an F-

Teams in liberal bastion cities who desperately need secondary talent like San Francisco and Seattle said NO WAY! But yeah this is all some kind of conservative railroad job LMAO

Clark Hunt - F

He pretty much pounded the table for this to happen and that's why we got such shitty return. We were desperate to get rid of the guy.

Leave it to Hunt to want a potential future HOFer off the team because it hurts his image. Go Chiefs!

Then why was there only one team seriously interested?

Use your head man. That’s why we got a shitty return. A potential future HOFer and there’s only one team interested.

Theres no point in talking to some of these guys about it, even some guys who are otherwise quite sharp

They can scream racism this and conservative that til the cows come home, yet every one of them is steadfastly avoiding the question you and everyone else has raised... why did NO ONE want this ****ing guy?!!

That's not the point lol. If you have an asset you're selling and the market didn't materialize for whatever reason why would you keep shopping it even after 3 weeks of no one biting? You look desperate and you lose essentially all leverage. This is why the Chiefs got a shitty return, because Clark made it clear we had to move him regardless.

You don't think if we keep him for another year and he cleans up his act with Berry back he doesn't garner a better market? Absolutely he does.