Shame he can't pop the head of it.

This

Honestly that is the one thing that would actually brighten my mood a bit. Offense would be better, rebuild the D in the draft.

No idea how he's still on this team.

Likewise

They're probably hoping he'll retire with some dignity.

He's dating CHunts daughter

The Chiefs 2003 defense says there is a lot further back you can go.

When they go a whole game and the other team scores a TD on every possession but one (and still get a FG on that), get back to me.

:harumph:

They're giving the fans a breather after releasing DJ and trading Peters.

Hali is a legend in KC and therefore his release should be somewhat special, like DJ's.

Parker is probably our 4th best defensive guy. Peters was 1st or 2nd. How do you expect to get better on defense after this? Both guys were reasonably cheap. What the **** are they doing

Holy ****.....what?

His cap hit was $7 million and he was not the 4th best player on the defense. Do you watch the games?

We may not draft an offensive player in this years draft.

I've been on record numerous times as being against this

With the crux of my argument being 'theres no way we can fill all of the holes this year, he is good enough for now'

But man, if Brett is really feeling froggy, and has a long term vision that makes sense - and I believe he does - then to hell with it, lets revamp this mfer for real... no tweaks, just a full on rebuild of the defense

is gramps gonna be able to effectively coach all the young players on D next year?

This, it maybe got weird toward the end... but Tamba deserves special considerations

Tamba deserves Everglades

Thats bullshit, man... he was a consummate Chief

You're acting like he is Neil Smith, he doesnt deserve that kind of attitude

If you like watching young guys develop under live fire conditions, then the 2018 Kansas City Chiefs are going to be YOUR kind of team.

Offense? Check.
Defense? (Apparently) Check.
Special Teams? MAYBE! Stay tuned!

What was the final ranking of the defense this year? Had to be close to the bottom. It's clear that last season was viewed as the last run with the current roster. The current purge Veach is doing needed to happen. Accumulate picks and cap space so can start building around Mahomes with youth the next couple seasons.

At least there are pieces in place on the offense already so Mahomes has something to work with even though he'll have to score 30+ a game to eek out wins in the near future. Pressure is on Veach now to nail his drafts so hopefully they'll be in a position to spend some money on FA in a year or two to fill remaining holes.

this defense is going to be horrible next year lol

It wasn't real good this year, or last year.

How could we know that yet? Veach has some cash.

Yet Bob Sutton lives

Kansas City Tech Red Raiders Mahomes is use to having shitty defense.

The Chiefs are going to be in a tough spot next year on defense. Even with Berry coming back, it's hard to expect someone who is 30 years old and has now blown an ACL and an Achilles (not to mention chemo) being the same kind of player.

Houston has plainly not been the same since his knee injury, either. Aside from Chris Jones, Ragland, and Kendall Fuller, there aren't really any ascending players on the team with upper echelon talent that have shown much. They're really going to need Kpassagnon to improve and hit on some of their draft picks, because not only have they lost a fair amount of talent, but a ton of leadership.

From what I have been hearing, it's the leadership that they want to change. If that is true, they have more changes coming.

There are way too many holes to fill and not enough talent out there (plus depth) that you can do it all in ONE offseason. This looks like a 2 year plan at least.

Ron Parker wasnt good but it's just another need a starting safety. Where are they going to get it? Draft? FA? I guess that guy could be better by default but very well could be some nobody. It might even be someone on the roster already like Sorensen or Murray. What a shame that would be.

I'm okay with getting new leadership on defense

Meh. The talent they're replacing is bad save Peters.

So they will take a step forward?

I mean, we’ve got to do something. We’re releasing some turds... who cares. Losing Peters will hurt, but Parker, DJ, Tamba, hopefully Zombo, I say good riddance. It’s like drafting Mahomes, he may flop, but at least we tried. Our defense just flat out needs some changes.

the change should have started at DC.

They're gonna try and get young and fast on d.

It's a welcome addition.

I agree, it may be a bit painful next year but shit, it was painful this year.

Yeah, I mean how much worse can it get?

The d got old. It happens.

It's painful most of my tenure as a fan

This year you get growing pains with top 10 drafted Chiefs franchise QB.


Good pain!

Oh l completely agree. He’s the biggest turd of them all, and until he’s gone, it’s probably all a moot point anyway.

Maybe but he sat for a year. It's go time.

Was a good scrap heap singing, but he fell off the cliff last year. Good move.

Well bye

Tre Boston is a very intriguing replacment

We are blowing up the defense and rebuilding around Houston and Berry. Thats great and all, but Sutton is still gonna Sutton.

Why does he get to lead the rebuild and development after he flubbed the last 5 years with all the talent he got to work with and rode them into the ground like race horses. He's like the Tom Thibodeau of NFL coaches

These two might not even be here when any of these new players hit their prime. Houston and Berry will be completely wasted Chiefs

DE-Allen Bailey
NT-Bennie Logan
DE-Chris Jones
OLB-Dee Ford
ILB-DJ
ILB-Reggie Ragland
OLB-Justin Houston
CB-Marcus Peters
CB-Phillip Gaines
S-Eric Berry
S-Ron Parker

Opening night lineup in NE. The bold might be players replaced. We might have 7 new starters next year LMAO

Good.

How many new starters did Philly have on defense this year? Quite a few I believe.

This defense needed TNT anyways. **** it. Blow it up. Just hate that Sutton is still here

I figure Ford will be here.

That’s just nuts... but I’m ready for it. If they insist on keeping Sutton, then we have to out-talent his foolishness.

I think Veach is going to take a page from their playbook and be extremely active.

We’ve already been by far the most active team.

Ragland was in the opening night lineup?

Man this secondary is going to look waaaay different next year.

Good.

The whole defense will expect for like 4 players

Well, if you aren’t going to fire Sutton, you have to get rid of a bunch of players. Gotta remove as much stinch as possible from the playoff failure. See if some young blood will buy in.

Sure but in reality, all of those guys should have been replaced after 2015, with more cuts to come.

Its official apparently. Ron Parker has been cut.

but why do they have to pigeon hole themselves to Suttons scheme. If you're going to rebuild, transition, etc with a makeover like this, why not at least consider a change to the 4-3? Something that actually could have a huge impact.

Suttons scheme continuing to be the constant after 5 years is meh. At least Andy has shown in the past (and last season) he is willing to change the offense around the talent at least a little.

Sutton is never going to change. It will be the same crap. (Houston in coverage, CBs 10 yards off the ball, no rotations, no adjustments, etc)

I really really won’t be surprised at who’s cut/traded at this point. Tam a some how still on the team LOL

No we do not. Sorenson has no instinct thus always plays a step behind and this is even in his natural position as if he actually has a natural position in the 2ndary. When he pulled up on AB and did not lay him out in that Pitt game encapsulated who is as a player. He is a back up at best and couldn't break into any other starting line up in the NFL except for us and that is only because he is Mormon.:D

Guy needs to go we need another true headhunter to assist EB, PERIOD !!

Nothing personal Hog.

You are spot on Big Dog !!

Veach emptying the dumpster.

Don't forget to take out the Zombo too, please...

Good move. Parker looked as lost as Eric Murray and was as bad as Peters at tackling.

I don’t understand why people shit on Frank Zombo.

He’s been a Vet Minimum player for years and was only signed to be a Special Teamer.

The fact that Hali, Ford and Kpassognon stepped on their own dicks for years, which pressed Zombo into duty, isn’t his fault.

The guy has been earning barely $1 million per while Ford and Hali earned 8x that and Kpass double.

Sutton's scheme is fine. Shut teams down during the stretch of the regular season was shutting down the Titans before Chris Jones got hurt too.

Meh. If you're gonna scrub the trash can, get ALL of the pieces of toilet paper clinging to the inside as well. :)

People act like decimating the defense is a bad idea. However, I would have much more optimism if our ****ing DC wasn't Bob "Drop Back Houston" Sutton.

I don't see them dumping Sorenson right now.

Tamba, and maybe Dee Ford and/or Bailey will probably be the final touches.

Well, he never let the ball get behind him. He didn't do shit with the ball if it was in front of him, but he didn't let it get behind him.

WGAF? :D

I fixed your post

Why? He's expensive as hell considering he's just a scrub.


I don't think they'll do worse with a cheapo FA or draftee.

If you're willing to cut Parker why not one of the shitty expensive backup dudes?

I'm glad the guy's gone. Nothing against him as a person as I'm sure he's a great guy, but his skills has eroded big time, and PPF did rate him what, 86 out of 89? My eye test confirms the same thing as I seen him miss tackles over, and over, and over, and over, and.... well you get the idea.

Hamas had it right, the Chiefs hit on some UDFA but didn't let them walk when they should have.

Lol. Calm down, bro. It's a joke.

Tamba is extremely well spoken. I don't know if English is his first language or what, but I don't detect a hint of accent. He's a smart guy. I know that. I wasn't implying that he talked like Jamaal Charles

Good move dumping Parker. Our defensive secondary was ASS last year, especially on third and long. And Parker CAN NOT TACKLE. Don't know how many times I saw him totally whiff of a tackle. He was just awful. There's really nowhere to go but up for the defense.