I don't think it'll be an issue for this weekend it's looking like he's not going to make the cut.

YE Yang strikes again.

Yet he shouldn't get coverage.

If he makes the cut and at this point he will.... If he's not playing well they won't cover him.

He'll get coverage if he's playing. You can count on that. Shit, they talk about him when he isn't playing. They seem too think tiger is the end all be all of the sport.

Well he sorta is. Not many people usually watch golf, but when Tiger plays all kinds of people watch golf.

The boss flew out this morning for The Masters. His family has had tickets for a LONG time. Lucky bastard!

Well if you want to watch golf at the bottom of the board be my guest. You know Tiger hasnt been in contention in a long time now right. But you keep being a dumb ass and dont watch these kids now who are damn good and have real competition every week. Something by the way Tiger in his prime never really had to worry about.

I enjoy watching golf, mostly the majors. I've been to PGA events. It'll watch all day Sunday, no matter who is at the top. But the fact is this, for every person who thinks Tiger gets to much coverage or shouldn't be focused on unless he's in contention, there's a hundred people(at least)who wouldn't watch at all if Tiger wasn't involved. I garuntee you, all the executives at CBS are celebrating tonight since Tiger made the cut. That's the way it goes. Tiger moves the needle, period.

I’ve never really been a fan of Tiger and used to get a bit annoyed when the coverage on a final Sunday would cut to him out of contention. Easy to forget that overkill by the media was all driven by just how great he was. Dude was basically the Michael Jordan of golf for a long stretch. Also got a lot of people into the game and watching tournament golf.

His media attention was because of his race, let’s face facts. Never before has someone that was his race dominated golf. The media loves that crap. It’s because he is half Asian. If he wasn’t half Asian they would never be so obsessed.

Can’t quite tell if you are trying to be sarcastic.

ROFL

It certainly didn't hurt his cause.

thats not why I was laughing. I found the post genuinely funny.

Ok.

I’d say he was far more dominant relative to his competition than MJ.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk

Says the obvious casual golf fan.

Today will be a great test of what Tiger has left. He starts fairly early. Won't be on tv. But could make a charge to make some money. He won't win unless the rest of the players are killed in a meteor storm. But he is the one (and Speith) that can make a big move.

I doubt they play much today. I live 2 miles from Augusta National and it’s been raining all morning.

He needs to go out early and shoot 64 to have a punchers chanfe

It never rains on the golf course! Some days, there is a rather heavy dew.

As long as there is no lightning, rain doesn't present much of a problem for these guys. Plenty of towels, dry gloves and a caddie carrying an umbrella.

Other than Phil, Vijay Singh and Ernie Els, his competition was a joke. I mean, they were hyping up David Duval and Sergio Garcia as competition for Tiger.

He wouldn't be nearly as dominant if he came up in this current era.

I guess he'd only be winning tournaments by 5 shots instead of 10 then.

:rolleyes:....

Thanks. That was what I was going for. Let’s not be blind to the fact a half Asian half black man kicked the crap out of the entire field of white dudes in a white dominated sport. I grew up watching Tiger and it was awesome to watch. My dad bought a new set of clubs around 89’ and took his old set, the whole damn thing and hacksaw’d them in half and had grips put on. I was out there with a full bag of real clubs playing when I was 8. It was a blast.

This is my second year living 2 miles away from Augusta National and I really wanted to fly my dad down for the masters. I make pretty good money but a single day ticket is $2,500 with my discount through work. So that’s 5 grand for the both of us for one day. He knows that, and if I spent that much he would knock my ass out as soon as I picked him up from the airport.

Golf has been around longer than any of the other major sports in the United States...why is it that he made golf 'relevant'? The game pre dates Tiger. Its curious why he had such an impact on the game and the revenue of the game. Why did he bring so much media coverage to the point it double revenues to the game and the prize purses.

Its an interesting phenomenon...there are great players now that have met or are approaching some of his records, but they dont get the same level of coverage and its interesting to me why.

Woods brings a level of mass-appeal that golf has never had, nor will experience again once he hangs 'em up.

It's a fairly simple equation.

But the question is why...Speith matched his best round at Augusta a couple of years ago, but he doesnt 'bring the crowds'...I dare say that there will be some in this younger generation that will match or exceed Tiger. Why dont they bring the mass appeal?

If its a simple equation, then what is it?

Spieth has already missed more cuts in his career than tiger did

Tiger had a flare for the drama and similar to lebron was dubbed th next thing from a young age and actually lived up to it.

The elements:

1) An exceptional golfer.

2) An African-American Asian beating the piss out of ol' "Cracker Ass Whitey" at his own game, and at a consistent level was a HUGE media wet dream that all but guaranteed that Woods was going to be covered like a yogurt raisin 24/7.

3) The drama. As much as they built him up, the media were there to tear him down post-haste, and create a situation whereby Woods would either sink or swim. If he got it back together and made a comeback, the media wins.

Someone is going to match what Tiger Woods did? In our lifetimes? Maybe you go need to look at what Tiger Woods actually did if you think that.

His level of dominance over that 10+ year period was absolutely absurd.

The guy was going to crush every single golf record, but had that big fallout. Tiger made golf watchable because he was kicking ass and had several really exciting moments.

This. Oh yeah so much this.

Remember when bets were Tiger vs the field? And Tiger was the best bet.

It was exceptional, but still not at the same level as Jack Nicklaus....and Nicklaus had MUCH tougher competition.

He was always going to be hyped because of his amateur success, but that first Masters sent him into the stratosphere. Here you have this phenom who comes in and doesn't just compete, he annihilated the field on the biggest stage, and set a bunch of records on the way. Yeah Spieth later matched the record score but he only won by 4 strokes. Tiger came in and demolished the entire field by double digits. Who else has done that?

It'd be like a rookie QB coming in and winning a Super Bowl by 50 points and throwing for 700 yards. The hype would be off the charts.

I don't want to diminish Jack Nicklaus' level of dominance which was similar, but the competition in Nicklaus' era wasn't even close to as good as it was in Tiger's. Nowhere near the same kind of depth/talent pool.

ROFL Surely you were drunk when you posted this:rolleyes:

The shortlist of greats of the game Nicklaus played with Gary Player (nine majors), Tom Watson (eight), Arnold Palmer (seven), Lee Trevino (six) and Seve Ballesteros (five).

It was nice to see Tiger play well the last rd.

When Tiger golfs, the world watches. Plain n simple.

what?...okay.

Yep, put Woods in with that group and he wouldn't have won so easily. I'm not saying he isn't great, but no one matches Jack.

It would be interesting to see Tiger and Jack play each other in their prime using the same equipment... either with today’s technology or yesterday’s...

Yep and I didnt even include Raymond Floyd, Hale Irwin and Johhny Miller trying to show a little Mercy.

Another thing not mentioned here that needs noted Jack played the prime of his career without the aid of technological advance in clubs and balls. The huge metal woods and graphite drivers and fairway woods were in his twilight years. Yet as a young phenom he was driving 300 yards and hitting mid irons on his second to par 5's. Tiger was the greatist of his generation and and one of the greatest ever but Jack is the GOAT far and away.

JFC, just stop

How is this in any way controversial? The sport and its talent pool have evolved immensely since the Nicklaus era. It continues to. Many more countries play the sport and develop elite athletes than they used to in the 60s/70s.

That’s true but how good was the 20th ranked golfer then? The 40th? The 100th?

That’s where the difference in the eras lies. There are always great golfers in any era, but the standard to even play at this level has risen significantly as more countries/athletes have begun playing the sport.

Tiger in his prime did not ever face the consistent great talent Jack had to face.

Look both guys had incredible careers, but if TW is a 10 then Jack is a 10.2.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/08/jac...n-bubba-watson

I wonder how todays pros would have done with Jack's equipment...340 yard drive with a persimmon head and wound ball...1963

I'd argue that neither of them did. Tiger created a whole new talent pool to golf. He increased popularity by at least 2x. Those kids Tiger brought to golf? Well they are in their prime now.

Tiger doesn't have to beat Mark O'Meara, Fuzzy Zoeller and David Duval anymore. He has to beat Dustin Johnson, Jordan Speith, Rory McIlroy, Ricky Fowler, Bubba Watson etc. That is the best talent pool in golf's history probably. It's just math. How many people played golf 60 years ago? How many played golf 30 years ago? How many play now? As the amount of people that play golf increases, the competition gets much more difficult.

A lot of these young golfers nowdays are ripped. They look like premier league soccer players. Better athletes than the old pudgy guys from the 60s, 70s and 80s.

Tiger brought that ripped conditioning to the game.

Tiger had no competition. I think if he was in his prime right now he wouldnt win as many tournaments as he did. Or if he was in jacks era I dont think so either. He is easily a top 3 golfer of all time though and I would not argue with someone saying he is the greatest of all time either. Hes also fantastic for golf, on the course, off the course hes a pos but thats a different argument lol

I really dont think being in peak shape really matters for golf. Reed probably cant even run a mile or bench press his own weight but hes still piping 340yard drives and hitting 9i's 170 yards. And physical shape doesnt matter at all for chipping or putting. I mean I doubt jordon or rickie can bp their own weight either, or squat

The fitness has brought a new dimension to the game but its not that important. In the end the players who win consistently can putt and good around the greens plus keep it in the short grass. None of that had anything to do with fitness.

It's more about core strength and flexibility. Not necessarily big bulky muscles.

I failed to mention that I think Tiger was the best putter I ever seen. This is why Tiger dominated his generation. He could consistently drop putts under pressure. Drive for show putt for dough as the saying goes. Golf will never change in that aspect if your consistent on or around the green you will win. Sure every now and then a guy is so on with the irons he knocks it stiff through a tournament but that doesnt last gotta putt to be consistent.

I do agree. While being fit helps, it doesn't help as much in golf as it does in any other sport. There are plenty of fat asses around your local muni or country club that are great sticks.

My whole point is, Tiger Woods influenced tons of young kids to start playing the game. Me included. Now all of these kids are 28-36, and in their prime. And there are more people playing golf than ever before. Combine that with the population being larger of the country, clearly there are more talented golfers than ever before.

The USA population in 1962 was 186 million.
It's 325 million today.

World population in 1962 was 3 billion.
World population is 7.6 billion today.

Much more of a talent pool.

This is why Tiger will have trouble competing now. He has competition. In his prime, how many players did Tiger face that had won more than two majors each? On any given weekend, Nicklaus likely had to face at least two or more. BTW, Mark O'Meara, Fuzzy Zoeller, and David Duvall are nowhere near the talent level of guys like Gary Player, Arnold Palmer, Tom Watson, or Lee Trevino...if they were, they would have won more majors, or even beat Tiger to win a few, but they did not.

The argument about more people playing increasing the talent pool has some merit....BUT only to explain why Tiger will have a tougher time competing now.

Those days are over in the context of the Majors.

It's possible he could win another British (aka The Open), or a Masters.

He has no shot of ever winning another US Open or PGA.

his best shot is a course that doesn't require driver to narrow fairways

he's played what 5 tournaments this year after a 2 year layoff.

already has a second and a 5th

finished 30th or so in the masters

already in the top 100 for the fedex cup with 1/2 the torunaments everybody else has

I wouldn't count him out of anything

While Tiger still has moments where he looks like the 'old' Tiger, there is no escape from the ravages of time and injury.

It's hard to say how much difference technology has brought however I remember reading something about Adam Scott playing with old equipment and his drives were in the 240 range with that equipment.

I played with the old persimmon woods and non-cavity backed irons. Just for fun, I tried to play with the old set I played with in the 1980s. Very discouraging... almost every iron shot hurt and the woods seemed impossible to hit. So, for the average duffer, the equipment is drastically different now and allows us to ingrain our bad habits more than ever. For the tour player, I'm not sure that cavity backed irons and graphite shafts are what they play.

The old clubs were much heavier in the head than the new ones, too.

Choke Woods at it again. Ties for the lead (when wind conditions are picking up for the field behind him) and then crumbles. Misses a birdie putt on 15, and then an easy par putt on 16. Bogey-Bogey-Bogey finish ahead.

Misses another 50/50 putt and then yanks his 18th tee shot an inch away from out of bounds . Headcase

Got to admit, it’s hard to argue with you on this one. We’ll see if he can save par and give himself a shot tomorrow. Bogey or worse and the leaderboard ahead of him starts to get real thick

Before every tournament ESPN and all sports talk: "Tiger is back!!"

ROFL

Shoots a five under 66 with one bogey the entire round.

Rudy: “Choke Woods at it again.”

Is there any subject/conversation that you’re not a complete dumb**** in?

Why are we giving a **** about Tiger again?

Because he still has the potential to be one of the top golfers in the world and he appears to be healthy again. :shrug:

Because he's ****ing awesome.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk

He'll never be the same.

Ever.

It's amazing how dumb people can be about this. Tiger is the only thing golf has going for it and people want to ask why Tiger is so important.

I dont understand why people like Tiger Woods so much. Hes an asshole. Hes an adulterer. And he shoves kids out of the way without any dialogue who are trying to get an autograph.

My guys are Speith, Fowler, Rory and Jason Day

past tense.

time marches on.

No he won't. But I really don't care, the man is/was a class act and that makes me interested in knowing how he's doing. Like Phil...

Not really. He was pretending to be something that he wasn't because he thought that was what he was supposed to do. But he gets credit for that. Now we know who he really was. And now we're all jealous of all of the sweet ass he was bangin' when he wasn't gambling. Because hypercompetitive people can't shut it down