One year rental to win it all. To motivate him you tell him to come play your ass off and then next year you're FA and go anywhere you want.

Bingo.

Now that we have Mahomes maybe we'll see quality players knocking on our door willing to take a little discount.

Get it done Veach!

Well it will be interesting for sure to see what happens here. Veach and his scouts know what is coming out this next April's draft and you cross reference that with whatever move he makes now i.e. ET.

Who said anything like that?

no way I give them a 2nd rounder for an expensive player in his last year, no way. Maybe a 4th

What about Ford?

and no way we tie up even more money in the saftey position by giving him a long term contract.

Baseball is a different animal.

I can't remember an NFL team mortgaging it's future this way.

If we trade a 2nd for Earl Thomas for 1 year, why wouldn't we have just kept Marcus Peters?

Players are going want to win Super Bowls with Patrick Mahomes II he is their meal ticket to success.

Rams this year?

Tried to get Mack too, and would have done it for a 1 year rental.

The rams traded for Watkins last year and let him walk didn't they?

As did the Patriots with Brandin Cooks (they did trade him, so maybe that doesn't count).

Snippet from ESPN article

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...ty-earl-thomas

So we inherit the drama from Seattle for a year? The only reason there is drama is because he is pissed about not being given a contract extension. Hard to see that changing at a different location with the same contract situation.

Not sure I'm in.

I think he's a great player with the horses around him, but I don't think we hove the horses.

Start planning that parade down Main Street if this happens

I would guess Mahomes’ performance has far exceeded expectations in the front office.

As cool as this would be on paper, I believe it to be an incredibly stupid move.

Got me there.

He immediately makes Scandrick, Fuller and Nelson better.

This.

Understandable.

If berry were to ever get back on the field we might be lights out for a couple years though

I don’t know enough about the upcoming draft to know if this makes sense.

For the Rams 2 I’d probably be in if we get 3-4 years out of him.

With a new contract though it’d put Berry and Houston on even thinner ice with those contracts.

I really can't agree.

His current contract is for 4 years 40 million.

Surely he isn't expecting a huge raise at almost 30, right?

I can agree with this.

He probably is.

They are almost perfect compliments to each other, imo.

That's why I would be in on it. 3 year deal with a couple throw away years.

If you take out the pro-rated SB, he's making 8.5 this year.

He's looking at a paper raise.

We have to do something if Berry isn't coming back or is going to miss significant time. This Offense is too good to waste. But we can't rely on them to score every drive just to win. Gotta improve the D

So your saying that if Berry comes back the D doesn't improve?

Yep and why would you want that cancerous attitude in the locker room messing with PM2 when you know what you have in this kid who probably burnt Peters all the time in practice as the PS QB. I remember Peters on the NFL Network interview dissing on PM2 insinuating he picked him all the time. That was a big tell on Peters for sure that just the opposite was happening.;)

Absolutely would. I don't see why he wouldn't just stay in Seattle if a raise right now wasn't the priority.

KC hasn’t gotten any impact from 2nders like KPass or Speaks so far and has 2 2nds next season. I’m fine with it if he signs an extension. He’s an impact safety that would help out the backend tremendously. You have a window while Mahomes is cheap. Do it.

Edit: adding Thomas with Berry if he comes back would be legit. That’s scary. The you’d have Parker, Watts and Sorensen who is good as a depth safety more than a starter.

I think he wants to win. Get it done Veach!

He gets nothing next year right now

Didn’t see where Mortensen said KC is a front runner

This

Agree with this.

Yeah, which is why he's dicking off in Seattle. I don't think he gives one single **** where he lands, as long as he gets the financial security and a raise.

KC would have to quickly do a new deal as his current salary would be difficult to eat.

Thomas - past his prime and disgruntled

Berry - past his prime and broke

Fuller - in prime but limited by Sutton:D

Veach must be careful here for sure.:hmmm:

Money next year is a raise

So do we give Seahawks two 2nd round picks for Thomas ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

let's throw out the trade and pick. If Earl Thomas hits FA this off-season youd be stoked about the Chiefs paying him money through his likely age 33/34 season?

The only difference is the draft pick and we'd get him this season. Id be excited about it now but I don't think it's a smart move

No.

I'n saying that Thomas, alone. doesn't significantly improve this defense.

The Seahawks did it with Percy Harvin, Jimmy Graham and Sheldon Richardson and now they suck because of that.

We better not trade a 1st or either 2nd for this guy.

And you’re wrong.

wow if we get earl thomas and get rid of fisher, while having a franchise QB we will have come full circle and somehow won the game

Would you people stop reminding that senility is setting.

Aw....screw it.
I'll probably forget this conversation later today.

It may not be smart...but it may be smart. Being safe hasn’t gotten this team a damn thing. Being bold does. Trading up 17 spots got them Mahomes.

No. They suck because their drafting has been terrible. No commitment to the oline. None.

I’d trade a midrounder, but no more.

He’s aging.

Neat.

This. We have a young offense. No need to mortgage the future on an old defense.

Yes but trading a 2nd rd pick for Sheldon Richard and getting only 1 year from him is a horrific move.

Big resource to waste

If it comes with an extension, I'd be down for this - he was on my list of interest for FA acquisition in the coming off season. I'd probably give up a second, but no more.

The Eagles are paying big bucks to both of their safeties, they follow an expensive safety cheap corner model and it got them a ring.

Offer a third and Lucas

That's my concern. I don't want to give up our first and second for Thomas.

Apples and oranges bro.

Team needs a safety. ....maybe Eric will take a pay cut. ...he hasnt earned his salary for a while now

Exactly my concerns as well. We have one that hasn't played in a while, and another that is due for a like hood big contract.

You are literally saying that giving up a high 3rd round pick is mortgaging the future. The only way that is a real argument is if you expect the Chiefs to collapse and that 2nd is at the top of the round.

No it’s not. The concept is a bold trade.

The problem is, Seattle rejected Dallas's 2nd rounder. I'm under the impression that Seattle wants more than what they should be asking, for a guy who's only on a 1 year contract and is nearing age 30.

If Thomas was on a 2-3 year contract, then I'd consider a 2nd and a late round, but that's not the case.

He absolutely is. Thomas is light years ahead of any safety we have not named Berry.

Eagles are paying 12 million this year for both their safties. We are paying Berry 13 million and Sorenson another 5 million, and you guys want to spend more on the position?

Who?

think maybe it has something to do with Dallas being in the same conference? I'm trying to think of any big player trades that were traded in conference.

No we will play without safeties ....if this team has to rely on Berry and Sorenson

You can dump Sorenson and save money.

Someone else replied with my thought as well. I would only give up a mid round pick (I would consider our second rounder a mid round pick since we’ve been picking so late in the draft).

I don’t want to see us give up a first rounder for someone that we might lose quickly.

It's probably Seattle trying to bait Dallas.

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It's possible that they're worried about Dallas, and it makes sense. You could make an argument that Josh Gordon to New England is a big player that was traded in conference. Gordon is very talented, no doubt, but he just needs to lay off the substance issues that plagued his career.

But if Seattle rejected Dallas' 2nd rounder (which is pretty good for a guy who's 30 and is likely commanding a big contract), then I have no idea what they're asking for.

Seattle dropped the ball there for a good high pick for this guy, in my opinion.

That's actually a really great point

Bills acquire WR Kelvin Benjamin in trade with Panthers.
49ers trade CB Rashard Robinson to Jets, release QB Brian Hoyer.
Dolphins trade RB Jay Ajayi to Eagles for fourth-round pick.
Patriots deal QB Jimmy Garoppolo to 49ers for 2018 second-round pick.
Seahawks get Duane Brown from Texans for picks.

All cross conference.