Morse is going to come down to what he can get on the open market. He is a good center. But his injury history is a big concern. I would think that his value would be low due to that. I wouldn't be surprised to see someone offer him top center money, but on a one year prove that you can stay healthy deal. If someone does that, he's gone. But, if his injury history scares everyone off, maybe we can keep him cheap.

If I were Morse, I'd think twice about staying in the game (assuming he can still think). 3 concussions is a lot of concussions. It indicates a potential susceptibility that deserves consideration.

There's dead and then there's brain dead. If I had a choice, I'd go with the former.

FAX

Rodney Hudson is going to be 30 and the Raiders are entering a rebuild.

His cap number for next season is $10 million, too.

I would bet anything they dump him to save money and the Chiefs, who are going to be flush with cash, pick him up.

send them a sixth rounder tomorrow.

His cap number is too high this year for that. But I think they probably cut him in the offseason and he will be a big-ticket FA. The Chiefs would definitely have an inside track.

Your starting offensive line tomorrow:


Eric Fisher, Cam Erving, Austin Reiter, Andrew Wylie and Mitch Schwartz.

Knock on wood, got a good feeling that they will shine.

Nah, brah. Look at the 2018 salary.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/oakland-...y-hudson-7774/

Yes but the Raiders would take a huge cap hit. Not happening or it would have happened already.

That would be fine... Hudson is durable, Morse is not.

Swear Worlds is my favorite theme park!!!

The Brownsification of the Chiefs.

Against the Broncos, Reiter will play alongside guards Cam Erving and Andrew Wylie, both of whom were his teammates in Cleveland.

Don't forget Mitchell Schwartz.

1 guy we drafted and a bunch of brownies.

Sounds a lot like summer camp.

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Here’s why our OL do so well. Teams are so terrified of blitzing us because we destroy them just like Brady and Manning.

Denver did this last time and Mahomes called the protection and rolled out of the pocket LMAO

Interesting that people blitz the **** out of Drew Brees. Desperation?

Clog up passing lanes and try and bat balls?

I forgot about him.

Hey if Reiter is good, can we trade him?

Bronco fans for the next 15yrs will finally know 'exactly' how we felt when Elway rolled out, especially tomorrow.:D

Good riddance IMHO. We can't have a potato chip playing center.:shrug:

At least we have proven guys on either end. I know a lot people hate Fisher but he is a reliable guy. He might not be flashy but he seems to stay healthy and doesn't lose it.

Fisher has missed 2 games in 6 years due to injury.
Fisher was called for 5 penalties in 2017, same as LDT and 1 more than Schwartz



http://www.nflpenalties.com/position...7&view=players

How did this guy do

We won, didn't we?

There were a couple fumbled snaps IIRC but all in all he did ok.

C++

yes - didn't you watch? Genious! shit man

Only way to beat elite qbs is to hit them.

I've changed my mind on Fisher. It took a real QB to really make him shine but he's been stellar this year.

Fish has been subject to some brain fart penalties, but for the most part he just holds his own 1-on-1 against good pass rushers the vast majority of the time.

We have one of the best 5 tackle duos in football probably.

I didn't see anything overtly bad, and I saw one play where he made a good pickup on a blitzer who got by Fisher. I think he also pushed the pile on a play downfield once, which showed hustle.

Erving has too but man he plays mean.

Couple of bad snaps, but that's kind of expected given the situation.

This guy has been solid starting at C. Devey was slow getting out on zone screens and stretches, which made Andy’s wrinkles in his playbook less effective, but this guy has enough speed Make those plays work.

I think the Morse and Devey injuries have been a blessing in disguise. We got a quality player here.

Props to Veach for finding this guy.

I'm not sold on Morse and never really have been. He has been okay but the last 2 seasons he has been off the field as much or more than he has been on the field. I understand it isn't his fault but still. If dude don't play next week that's 4 straight weeks from a concussion. We might need to start thinking about Reiter or someone else being the more longer term solution.

He moved some guys today.

Morse must be complete ass. Running game is always terrible when he plays.

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Morse gets his shit pushed in more than he pushes the pile. He won't be here next year.

We need to keep playing Wylie and Reiter unless they get hurt. Wylie looks like a beast.

I like the fact that Wylie looks like he's ready to beat the shit out of anyone that touches Mahomes. He knows what's up.

QFT, me too.

Funny our line is nearly all former Browns right now.

This! Wylie Coyote rocks!

Both Wylie and Erving will kill someone for Mahomes.

He looked like the real deal at first, but the concussions are starting to bother me. As you said, it's not his fault, stuff happens. There's no way I'd offer him a long-term big money contract. I thought Devey did well and I'm really starting to see some promise in Reiter, a guy that was on the Brown's PS at the start of the season.

You could hear Erving talking shit to Browns Fans and flipping them off on every scoring play.

This OL is as fraternally protective of PMII as the 90's OL was with Montana

DR. WYLIE WILL UNLEASH HIS ROBOT MASTERS UP YOUR ****ING ASS

The entire line is that way. I think all of these guys would kill a guy to protect their QB.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/5ae2...itemid=8169080

Mahomes got knocked to the ground out of bounds against Cleveland and i saw one of our offensive lineman run over and help him up. We haven't seen that much around here since Joe Montana. I liked it a lot.

Reiter was the starting C on PFF's team of the week.

I think the scheme makes being the C pretty damn easy, but that's all the more reason why we shouldn't be overspending to keep Morse.

I hope the dude lands on his feet somewhere and has a long, productive career. But his time here should probably be over.

The center is considered the extra guy in this scheme. He pulls or goes after the 2nd level unless he has a NT right over him. If there is a NT then he gets help from one of the guards. Our scheme is hard on our guards but easy on the center.

yip - kudos to Reiter - I noticed he played awfully well and forgot to chime-in. Additionally he danced In the Kelce celebration! Welcome to KC, Austin!

Reiter can’t pull like Morse, but he can move people.

They need to let Morse walk. C is the easiest position to replace on the line. Chiefs need to focus their cash on more important players going forward (Hill, Jones, Ford).

Problem is..I doubt that happens.

Reid likes Morse a lot, and I think Reid will take care of his fat guys. It's a bad decision IMO, he has a problem staying healthy. His concussions are a concern, but every boss has their favorites.

But the backup OL guys have been impressive. And w/ Erving playing a lot better, I no longer think this team needs 2-3 OL..Chiefs could probably get by drafting just 1 fatty in next year's draft...focus everything else on defense.

ALL levels of the defense need help bad. So IMO, its defensive BPA w/ picks 1, 2, 2, 3, and then perhaps maybe a OL in the 5th. (no 4th due to Ragland IIRC)

I was under the impression Reiter was faster quicker and stronger than Morse. His combine numbers say as much

Reiter Rooter and Wylie Coyote are looking great. When the Canadian Doc comes back we could have one of the best lines in the NFL.

Andy Heck deserves a huge ass Christmas bonus.

Todd Haley thought he would be getting one but instead received a Pink Slip. ROFL

https://sports.yahoo.com/ex-browns-c...150350588.html

With Wylie being decent, can we get out of LDT's contract?

Yeah, let's just get rid of a starter and eliminate any depth we have on the line.

That LDT money could go elsewhere

Not until after next season.

Compared to other signings since then LDT isn't that bad. It doesn't seem like they're spending that much on OL. Haven't looked up the #'s but I'd bet the Chiefs are bottom half of the NFL on contract money tied up in the O line.

A fleet killah'.

It's certainly interesting how the following guys have ALL pretty much been average or better at C in this offense:

Hudson
Morse
Fulton
Devey
Reiter

Either someone in the FO is really great at finding credible centers or yes, it's the scheme.

I disagree. I think Andy Heck is a pretty mediocre offensive line coach. Our fundamentals have sucked for a long time. We have always been pretty sketchy at picking up blitzes. Mahomes is doing a great job at avoiding blitzes and using his quick release to avoid sacks.

I don't like Andy Heck much at all. jmo

He’s rehabbed mega-bust Cam Erving*, and the line is playing well with 2 backups.

Both he and Mahomes deserve credit.

*That contract extension everyone thought sucked ass is looking shrewd right now. Hopefully Veach inks a few more deals with ascendant starters on the cheap.

He wanted a salad, but got a rat.

I've repeatedly ripped Heck up one side and down the other, but I'm now willing to eat a nice plate of humble pie... the other Andy has done an excellent job of juggling his way through injuries

And as Cave noted, whatever voodoo spell he has placed on Cam Erving has been nothing short of remarkable... the guy was 100% ass, yet he has somehow turned my biggest O line worry into something I feel soooooo much better about now

That former 1st round bust may well be the long term answer at LG

I'm not surprised at all that we have a good culture for O-line here considering Reid's past.
I AM surprised however that we don't have an all-world O-line by now though, considering Reid's past.


Not that we actually need one, just sayin'.

According to Von Miller we have the best tackle combo in the league.

Admittedly I don't pay that much attention to the fatty unit, but I'll take that.

If you watch him play he has been absolutely great and he's always there to push the pile. LG is solid now as long as he stays healthy.

Agreed about the general culture

The head coach and overall system (gm mostly, scouting, ownership) is now in its 5th plus year, there is much to be said about institutional consistency... they've had all of that time to sniff out and groom the Deveys and Wileys etc etc etc

Its no all world group for sure, but they do seem to function pretty well together no matter who is in there this year... I'm giving Mahomes 70% credit for how things look, personnel/coaching 30%

Mahomes makes his line look better, just like all the other greats

It's similar to NE now. They never have any well known names on the OL but Brady just always has forever to throw.

When Cam wrapped that blitzing Steeler LB up with only his right arm and almost choke slammed him to the ground, that definitely got my attention

And he has only gotten more consistent and better looking since then

Weird looking dude for guard, not much fat on him at all, he is a little light in the bucket but that probably helps with the athleticism Reid covets... yet he still has the torso strength to really maul people at times

It's not coincidental, either, that our offensive line magically became Top Ten when Mahomes started.

Mahomes stretches the field, keeps defenses honest, and lightens the pressure on the OL.

That's only going to get better as he gets more experience, and figures how to navigate a pocket even better.

If it were me, I think you trade LDT. I wonder if a team would offer you a conditional 2020 2nd for him based on his health for 2019. If he was healthy right now he'd be a Pro Bowl candidate and easily worth a 2nd to many teams in the league. If you're impatient, you could just net a 3rd for him right now in 20 seconds.

And, yeah, you definitely let Morse walk. He's probably going to retire anyway, after this concussion.

I MIGHT consider that deal as LDT's extension wears on, similar to how the Patriots traded Logan Mankins.

But definitely not next year. If it's because Andrew Wylie is doing well, then also consider that Wylie will need a new deal after 2019. And well... he's a starting guard, and guards make...

You get the point.

Let’s all take time to appreciate the fact that Dorsey cut Reiter, Ballard cut Wylie and Veach found them so Andy could make these guys quality starters.

He’d know.

Reiter was interviewed by SJS and Bukatey this morning.

Very well spoken guy and sounds like he has a great understanding of the offense. I think his intellect has helped us avoid any major letdown along the line. He understands the offense so well that we’re able to avoid the miscommunications that typical come with changes at center.