WTF!

No shit. I definitely think some kids just need an ass whooping there. No way around it.

The main issue is that, like everything, some people just take it too far.

He kept his meeting for a cat o'nine beating

I have a ton of patience with my son but sometimes he just don’t get it, so he gets it... Once flat handed right on the ass.

I think he went too far with the switch bit I don't really have a problem with the belt. I don't know. He needs to tone down how hard he does it because he's stronger than 90% of people in the world and probably doesn't realize how bad he's really spanking the kid, but I don't think he should have to stop all together just because other people in the world disagree with spankings.
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Damn. A stihl, too. You know there was no chance you were gonna get lucky and have that mother****er not start or something. They're too damn reliable.

If your dad would have just owned a craftsman, you'd be a much shittier person due to lack of weed eater lashings.

This. He took it too far leaving marks and opening skin. That's what the problem is for me. Not that he whooped his kid.
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I got hit with a paddle by my (old school - southern - kinda racist) stepdad. It sucked. The rule was it happened every time I lied, and it went up one whack each time. I think I made it up to 6 or 7. The only one I really remember is when I lied for absolutely no reason, and knew all day I was going to get paddled at 6pm or so when my stepdad got home.

Who the hell knows how that affected me. I would never hit my kid with anything. I even think yelling - which my real dad did constantly to me and my mom - is a form of child abuse.

However we're basically a generation removed from this being insanely common. And somehow civilization still plowed ahead. Although you could argue that's what's wrong with the baby boomers.

Anyway I'm all for shaming AP into stopping. But I think there are degrees of child abuse.

My stepdad kinda sucked - but he was legitimately doing what he thought would make me a better person. He also taught me my love of the outdoors and how to work for what you want - which I am insanely grateful for. If my work habits were anything remotely like my study habits, I would be the biggest loser you ever met. I completely owe that to his influence in my formative years (8-14 or so). He definitely gave out much better than he got (which was as dysfunctional as you can possibly imagine). To me that's the definition of heart.

When I'm not holding court in DC on the weekends, I'm giving my kids the attention they need whooping they ass into men.

I agree with physical punishment it might save the kid's life (maybe) or when the kid is being aggressive themselves (and big enough to do damage). That's the only time.

Have no problem with spanking or even using a belt but those photos of AP's kid is abuse.

Yeah for sure - that's terrible. That's lashing out in anger.

If you don't know how to discipline your child without physical violence, you don't know how to parent, period.

Being a parent is about being a good role model and diplomacy... he is doing neither

Yep. Spared no expense on my learnin'.

My father tied me up in a gunny sack and threw me in the river. I learned a lot ...

Like, for example, never, ever let somebody tie you up in a gunny sack and throw you in a river.

FAX

Those pictures are hard to look at every time they get posted.

I always assumed the switch was a backwoods Missouri hillbilly thing, but judging by the amount of comments on Facebook when the "black women getting the switch" meme pops up it's not as uncommon, even today, as many people probably believe it should be.

Dad had a belt and the principal a fancy oversized ping pong paddle. "When your dad gets home" had meaning. It's a shame that so many kids today aren't even capable of receiving that threat.

I'd like to ask all the middle aged men who like to beat the shit out of their girlfriends/wives if they were beat as a child. Noone should ever use a ****ing belt on their child. Spanking is pretty worthless too.

:rolleyes:

Studies show it makes children more violent. So you're telling me that boys who are beat by their fathers when they are young wouldn't be more likely to beat their wives when they are older?

I'm telling you that you made a presumption that is bogus.

Abused kids turn violent? Water is wet.

Beating your kids ass because they disobey? Nah. They are BEGGING you to set boundaries.

You should never beat a kid's ass. Hitting with a belt is child abuse.

Stopped reading.

Some of you are acting as if every dad out there just goes straight for the belt.
Surely most go through a progression of punishments before the belt.
You know where you have a conversation about the behavior that is going on while grounding and then escalate it as necessary.
There is nothing wrong with a spanking on the butt with a belt. If the parent has lost control of their anger hopefully they will tell the child that they have a whipping coming but that they need to calm down before giving said punishment.

What do you do then when grounding, taking all their "stuff" away, talking hasn't worked and they are continuing on with bad behavior?

Spank that ass. Just because you spank an ass doesn’t mean you give it everything you got. Just enough sting to get your point across. One open hand right on the ass

I have a 4 year old daughter and I can't imagine anything she could ever do to leave cuts on her reproductive organs.

Christ.

I have no problem with parents using a belt, wooden paddle etc to spank children within reason. It's really no ones business unless it crosses that line.

Using an object to hit your kids is ****ed up. Maybe when someone is speeding the cop should just pull you out of your vehicle and hit you with a bat or when you are drunk and acting like an idiot you should be tazed.

Hit them with a brick

All I know is that that the guy has the meanest outside cut I've seen since 2000, Charles, Tomlinson, Holmes, etc included

LOL that makes you a POS neg rep to OP forever.

It's a part of the ****ing culture down South. Peterson probably believes in that shit more than he believes 2 + 2 = 4.

Somebody should take him out back and beat that parenting belief out of him. He needs to be tamed because he's just an unruly parent. And when you think he's learned his lesson, give him a few more good hits with the hope that he'll have some sense knocked into him!

My father had a paddle that he personally crafted, named Leroy (no idea why) with a scary, cartoonish face drawn on it.

My sister and my names were written on the board, and every spanking we received (always 1-3 swats, and it didn't count if we tried to block it or moved), counted as our tally, and whoever got to 5 first had to pay it off in extra chores.

My sister always "won."

Outlandish, perhaps, but it established clear-cut boundaries, set by functional adults, that surely helped us avoid long-term psychological dysfunction.

Adrian's case is definitely extreme by modern standards, but by the standards that my father lived through (1960-present), it's fairly normal.

How do you discipline your kids?
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That's your opinion and you are welcomed to it. I completely disagree though and it's been an acceptable form of punishment throughout history. As long as it is infrequent and used correctly, it is a very healthy way of properly raising a child. If you go to far and too often then that's where problems begin. On the other side, if you don't discipline your children then that can be just as damaging for them.

I also would like to see corporal punishment become a part of our legal system like Singapore. For some offenses, I'd much rather have the justice system cane someone a few times instead of sentencing them to a jail for 6 months for some charges. Do it in a public setting and the crime rate will go down. It will also save a lot of tax payer money since we aren't jailing as many people. (Just caning, not cutting off hands like a few 3rd world countries)

Not sure why Peterson answered the question? He could have just said no comment

its not a big deal. i still fight dogs.

/mike vick

No one said he was smart.

And it's time for AP to grow the **** up and understand that what he learned as a child perhaps ISN'T the best way to do things, especially when it nearly cost him his multi-million earnings job.

I like how CP thinks of itself as a becon of mental health.

Like, shoving leaves in your kid's mouth and hitting him with a ****ing tree root obviously didn't work. Because he still beats his goddamn kid with a belt. Using his logic, "The more my correction hurts, the more well-behaved and likely my kid won't do stupid shit in the future."

It ain't working, dude.

They still swat kids with a wooden paddle at my child's elementary school. Alot of schools in Texas still use the paddle and I'm perfectly fine with it.

Does he even have kids?

How about a serious answer?

Can't use foreign objects in combat sports, but it's totally cool to use them on toddlers.

he's just stupid is all

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Best post you've ever had.

It's lazy ****ing parenting is all it is. It's quicker to just hit your kid to instill fear, so they become terrified of you and start to learn at a young age that physical violence is the solution to your problems. It's alot less work than having a discussion with your child, rewarding good behavior, taking the things they like as punishment.

I just don't get how a parent could sleep at night after they hit their kid with an object. It's completely ****ed. So I think if someone is late to work or underperforms they need to bend over their managers knee and take the paddeling or belt. After all they need to learn their lesson.

How many kids have you raised?

11 kids from 5 different women, from 4 different trailer parks in 3 different counties in 2 different states.

ROFL

2 kids, 1 Mom

God I wish I had that that type of sexual prowess lol.

I think Adrian Peterson and Tom Brady are pieces of shit for what they do to their children.

false narrative.

You instill the fear of the CONSEQUENCES for their actions.

Same reason YOU play by the rules. A healthy fear of judgment/punishment is beneficial.

He swallows them

Everyone is just winging it and are full of shit. So for them to be some sort of all mighty judgement for their kids is laughable. I am fine with obvious stupid shit like breaking stuff or hitting another.

Some try to install ethical and moral principals instead of just fear. YMMV.

Spanking or grounding or timeout is all better than nothing at all. Which seems to be the norm

I give my kids a AA spinebuster on a bed of barbed wire when they leave their bedroom door ajar.

I don't think it's just fear. To me, up until a certain age, reason and logic don't work. You can't explain to a kid why he shouldn't do something because they just can't comprehend the reason. Spanking them works in that situation. Because they learn that if they do X, there's an immediate consequence for it. Then when they're of age, they get to learn why they shouldn't do it.

And there's a difference between spanking and just beating/abusing your child to me.
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There is a huge difference between spanking and beating.

I doubt Peterson understands the difference...

She seemed like a nice enough lady in Rocky :shrug:

I understand, agree, and do spank my kids. However, I don't do so to instill fear. You're right that at an early age, operant conditioning is a substitute for logic.

It's not an either/or proposition.

Spanking is the last resort to outright defiance. YMMV

I used to tell my kids if they acted up @ School, I'd show up as FDE to pick them up.

hahahaha get the principle to announce that elvis has left the building

LMAO

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