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Naptown Chief 12-06-2018 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Pest (Post 13938728)
Hill
Watkins
Conley
Robinson
Benjamin

Works for me. That gives so many ****ing options in the redzone.

In the redzone it'd actually be more like
Kelce
Benjamin
Hill
Watkins
Conley

One minute, need to go fap.

carcosa 12-06-2018 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwwataz (Post 13938734)
In the redzone it'd actually be more like
Kelce
Benjamin
Hill
Watkins
Conley

One minute, need to go fap.

ok now I LIKE this idea!!!!!

SING HIM CRAL!!!!!

Dante84 12-06-2018 12:04 PM

Three TE sets in the red zone with Hill in the backfield flaring out to the opposite side and Ware running behind Harris kelce and Benjamin for a TD.

carcosa 12-06-2018 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 13938745)
Three TE sets in the red zone with Hill in the backfield flaring out to the opposite side and Ware running behind Harris kelce and Benjamin for a TD.

Draw it up, AndY!!!

JakeF 12-06-2018 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwwataz (Post 13938734)
In the redzone it'd actually be more like
Kelce
Benjamin
Hill
Watkins
Conley

One minute, need to go fap.

Hill in the backfield?

In58men 12-06-2018 12:09 PM

I wouldn’t play Hill in the RedZone. Use that boy Sherman as a WR

smithandrew051 12-06-2018 12:09 PM

The more I think about it, the more I like it.

He’s proven that he’s not a number 1, but I like him as our third best wide receiver and fourth best receiving option. I’d like to see him play some sort of hybrid TE-WR position.

Hammock Parties 12-06-2018 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 13938760)
I wouldn’t play Hill in the RedZone.

ROFL

smithandrew051 12-06-2018 12:10 PM

Someone go to Best Buy and be on the lookout.

Anyone know a real estate agent in Leawood?

CoMoChief 12-06-2018 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13938702)
I don’t even think we’d really see him on the field most of the time, especially this late in the season.

Just bring him in for RZ/goal line plays and add the threat of a fade.

can he turn and jump?

MatriculatingHank 12-06-2018 12:17 PM

KB’s physique suggests he eats sticks of butter.

His inability to catch the ball proves the above.

Dante84 12-06-2018 12:17 PM

Cam Erving V2

DaFace 12-06-2018 12:18 PM

I'm not completely opposed to the idea, but his catch rate this year has been 37%. That's on 62 targets, so we're not talking about a limited sample size necessarily. By comparison, Demetrius Harris is at 47% this year. :eek:

If they think he's salvageable, the fine, but he's gotta get that cleaned up before I trust him to waste throws in the red zone.

O.city 12-06-2018 12:18 PM

I don't think Benjamin is any good, but there is definitely something to be said about the locker room culture the chiefs have going.

lcarus 12-06-2018 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13938731)
He did have Nathan Peterman as his starting QB for multiple games. I'd be ****ing miserable too.

Everyones been miserable in Buffalo this season. Vontae Davis retired at halftime earlier this year lol. Maybe we can kick the tires with him too?

smithandrew051 12-06-2018 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 13938776)
can he turn and jump?

He can turn, but every time he turns around completely he gets a year older (that’s a fat joke).

ToxSocks 12-06-2018 12:20 PM

I wouldnt expect him to contribute much. They're just taking a flyer on a talented guy who, in the right environment, may be willing to salvage his career.

htismaqe 12-06-2018 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 13938780)
I'm not completely opposed to the idea, but his catch rate this year has been 37%. That's on 62 targets, so we're not talking about a limited sample size necessarily. By comparison, Demetrius Harris is at 47% this year. :eek:

If they think he's salvageable, the fine, but he's gotta get that cleaned up before I trust him to waste throws in the red zone.

Nathan Peterman. Derek Anderson. Josh Allen.

There isn't another team in the league even CLOSE to having a QB situation like the Bills. Heck, Anderson and Peterman started like 4 games and have a combined 1 TD and 11 interceptions.

RunKC 12-06-2018 12:21 PM

It’s going to be like what the Patriots did with Josh Gordon.

He’ll be used on situational plays since he doesn’t know the playbook, which should help.

He’s not great but hey we currently have Marcus Kemp on the roster and he is a complete waste of space.

TribalElder 12-06-2018 12:21 PM

He only came to KC for the bbq

wazu 12-06-2018 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 13938780)
I'm not completely opposed to the idea, but his catch rate this year has been 37%. That's on 62 targets, so we're not talking about a limited sample size necessarily. By comparison, Demetrius Harris is at 47% this year. :eek:

If they think he's salvageable, the fine, but he's gotta get that cleaned up before I trust him to waste throws in the red zone.

Worth noting that his QB is barely clearing the 50% completion percent mark.

Marcellus 12-06-2018 12:24 PM

Probably just trying to keep him from ending up in NE and becoming an All Pro.

DaFace 12-06-2018 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13938794)
Nathan Peterman. Derek Anderson. Josh Allen.

There isn't another team in the league even CLOSE to having a QB situation like the Bills. Heck, Anderson and Peterman started like 4 games and have a combined 1 TD and 11 interceptions.

Even so, their team completion percentage has been 55%, so while they may be awful, he's far below average on a below average team.

htismaqe 12-06-2018 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 13938807)
Even so, their team completion percentage has been 55%, so while they may be awful, he's far below average on a below average team.

Mahomes makes Harris look like an actual TE, too.

The guy has physical talent. There's no reason not to sign him, it's not like he's going to get a huge contract.

DaFace 12-06-2018 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 13938799)
Worth noting that his QB is barely clearing the 50% completion percent mark.

Sure, but forgive me if this doesn't give me a lot of confidence.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...tm#all_passing
https://i.imgur.com/XEf58EI.png

Kiimo 12-06-2018 12:30 PM

They probably have a group of plays that they could use Benjamin for. There’s this whole “satellite” group concept play tree centered on one slow-moving object that the running backs and receivers orbit at breakneck speeds as it slowly moves downfield. Defenders won’t know what the **** to do, especially without getting stuck in the orbit as well. Event Horizon Blue 22 Go Route is gonna freak Marcus Peters out big time.

arrowheadnation 12-06-2018 12:31 PM

So you're saying "bring him in for a look" actually happened for once? :ROFL

wazu 12-06-2018 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 13938810)
Sure, but forgive me if this doesn't give me a lot of confidence.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...tm#all_passing
https://i.imgur.com/XEf58EI.png

Not saying it should, it’s still bad. Just worth noting that he has a QB with accuracy that is historically bad.

Easy 6 12-06-2018 12:31 PM

If they can slim him down, and inspire some work ethic in him... :hmmm:

CaliforniaChief 12-06-2018 12:34 PM

This sounds like one of those experiments where Andy was at Denny's last night and drew up some plays on the clean side of his napkin...

I don't understand it, but this staff has more than proven that they know everything about offense, so I'm cool.

In58men 12-06-2018 12:34 PM

Future XFL player, nothing more. Same with Lacy

Fayetteville Fat ****s

JakeF 12-06-2018 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 13938818)
Not saying it should, it’s still bad. Just worth noting that he has a QB with accuracy that is historically bad.

I believe that rating is based on catchable balls though. If the QB throws a crappy pass it doesn't count.

Baldwin caught 37% of the passes that were deemed catchable.

htismaqe 12-06-2018 12:35 PM

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He's got issues with effort. He's been streaky as all get out this year. His average catch rate may be in the high 30's but it's because he's been flat bipolar at times. Some games, he's balled out and some games he's barely showed up. Over his career, he hasn't been all that bad.

Gravedigger 12-06-2018 12:37 PM

Worst case scenario, he stands on the sidelines in red for a few weeks. Sure, why not.

Jerm 12-06-2018 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 13938709)
There aren't enough ribs in KC for both Benjamin and Reid.

ROFLROFL

MMXcalibur 12-06-2018 12:38 PM

Remember when Marcus Peters stripped the ball from Benjamin in the last minute of KC’s 20-17 win at Carolina?

Good times

Beef Supreme 12-06-2018 12:38 PM

The kelvin is the primary unit of temperature measurement in the physical sciences, but is often used in conjunction with the degree Celsius, which has the same magnitude.

In58men 12-06-2018 12:47 PM

We think we think we just saw Kelvin Benjamin leaving the Chiefs training complex. (Via Matt Derrick)


“Uh what are you holding Kelvin”

“Bucket with a 6 piece and two biscuits, want some fam”?

King_Chief_Fan 12-06-2018 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 13938829)
Worst case scenario, he stands on the sidelines in red for a few weeks. Sure, why not.

Keeping Berry company

Hog's Gone Fishin 12-06-2018 12:53 PM

If we sign him does that send a signal Watkins may be done?

htismaqe 12-06-2018 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 13938864)
If we sign him does that send a signal Watkins may be done?

ROFL

FloridaMan88 12-06-2018 12:54 PM

Mikhael Ricks Part II

wazu 12-06-2018 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 13938825)
I believe that rating is based on catchable balls though. If the QB throws a crappy pass it doesn't count.

Baldwin caught 37% of the passes that were deemed catchable.

No, that number is just targets divided by catches.

Naptown Chief 12-06-2018 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 13938864)
If we sign him does that send a signal Watkins may be done?

No. It means we're interested in a big receiver/redzone target. Maybe a conversion to TE?

Sassy Squatch 12-06-2018 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 13938864)
If we sign him does that send a signal Watkins may be done?

He's currently practicing, so no. It's just another Veach reclamation project if he signs.

ToxSocks 12-06-2018 12:57 PM

I'm guessing he'd slide into Harris' role on certain passing plays as a big body WR/TE Tweener. That's basically what Harris is. We use our TE's to catch far more often than block.

Or im completely wrong and they think he's a legit parameter WR that can beat press.

tooge 12-06-2018 12:58 PM

He will be signed. Then he will be released when they find out he lied about eating a salad instead of pizza

BryanBusby 12-06-2018 12:58 PM

Chicken potpie
Turkey potpie
Chicken potpie
Turkey potpie
Chicken potpie
Turkey potpie

Mmmmmm pie

Sassy Squatch 12-06-2018 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tooge (Post 13938887)
He will be signed. Then he will be released when they find out he lied about eating a salad instead of pizza

LMAO

Sofa King 12-06-2018 12:58 PM

Jesus. Have you guys not watching this shit butt play recently? Dude ****ing sucks. Noone should be clamoring for this guy. He shouldn't be in the league.

Shoes 12-06-2018 01:01 PM

Buy low candidate- I honestly think this is what great teams do. Acquire talented players that are struggling and give them a chance. Could be Watkins insurance, or he is cut in 2-3 weeks after you see him up close in practice if he isn't up to snuff.

This is a no lose situation, Veach and the KC Chiefs have shown we can get more out of players than other organizations (Erving, Reiter, Ragland, Scandrick etc.).

htismaqe 12-06-2018 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 13938895)
Jesus. Have you guys not watching this shit butt play recently? Dude ****ing sucks. Noone should be clamoring for this guy. He shouldn't be in the league.

If every player in a bad situation never got another sniff, there'd be several good players today that don't have jobs.

It doesn't hurt to give him a look, especially if he's cheap.

htismaqe 12-06-2018 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoes (Post 13938902)
Buy low candidate- I honestly think this is what great teams do. Acquire talented players that are struggling and give them a chance. Could be Watkins insurance, or he is cut in 2-3 weeks after you see him up close in practice if he isn't up to snuff.

This is a no lose situation, Veach and the KC Chiefs have shown we can get more out of players than other organizations (Erving, Reiter, Ragland, Scandrick etc.).

Exactly.

Sassy Squatch 12-06-2018 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 13938895)
Jesus. Have you guys not watching this shit butt play recently? Dude ****ing sucks. Noone should be clamoring for this guy. He shouldn't be in the league.

Well, yeah, but it's clearly an effort thing.

Naptown Chief 12-06-2018 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13938904)
If every player in a bad situation never got another sniff, there'd be several good players today that don't have jobs.

It doesn't hurt to give him a look, especially if he's cheap.

:clap:

JakeF 12-06-2018 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 13938864)
If we sign him does that send a signal Watkins may be done?

That's what worries me. Injuries to the feet are so unpredictable.

FloridaMan88 12-06-2018 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoes (Post 13938902)
Buy low candidate- I honestly think this is what great teams do. Acquire talented players that are struggling and give them a chance.

Fat Kelvin doesn't just struggle with on the field performance, he's also a bad team mate... see the incident in October when he refused to do warm up passes with Josh Allen in Buffalo.

JakeF 12-06-2018 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 13938875)
No, that number is just targets divided by catches.

Wow, then that is a crappy stat that doesn't mean much.

loochy 12-06-2018 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoes (Post 13938902)
Buy low candidate- I honestly think this is what great teams do. Acquire talented players that are struggling and give them a chance.

<br /><br />
Yup. Just like the Pats with Gordon or Moss. Grab em for cheap at their low point.

Baby Lee 12-06-2018 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arrowheadnation (Post 13938817)
So you're saying "bring him in for a look" actually happened for once? :ROFL

Nah, they saw him from space.

htismaqe 12-06-2018 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 13938916)
Fat Kelvin doesn't just struggle with on the field performance, he's also a bad team mate... see the incident in October when he refused to do warm up passes with Josh Allen in Buffalo.

It's Buffalo and it's Josh Allen, and then Nathan Peterman and Derek Anderson.

I'm not saying what he did is right by any means but I think there's plenty of evidence that his problems were in Buffalo and won't necessarily come with him to KC.

Shoes 12-06-2018 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 13938916)
Fat Kelvin doesn't just struggle with on the field performance, he's also a bad team mate... see the incident in October when he refused to do warm up passes with Josh Allen in Buffalo.

How many times over the years have the Patriots scooped up a player with "personality issues" or some red flag and have turned them into a useful player? Every time the Patriots are hailed as geniuses for it.

I'm glad the Chiefs are taking chances and are always looking to improve.

FloridaMan88 12-06-2018 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 13938921)
Yup. Just like the Pats with Gordon or Moss.
Posted via Mobile Device

At least Gordon and Moss provided explosive play making abilities so they were worth taking a risk on their off the field baggage.

Fat Kelvin is only explosive at the buffet line and is otherwise a failure on the field, a failure in the locker room and a failure in life.

Pass.

mikeyis4dcats. 12-06-2018 01:07 PM

Per the guys on 810- we have signed him.


Their take - 1st round talent at bargain basement price worth a try, and he's a type of WR we don't already have.

FloridaMan88 12-06-2018 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13938925)
It's Buffalo and it's Josh Allen, and then Nathan Peterman and Derek Anderson.

I'm not saying what he did is right by any means but I think there's plenty of evidence that his problems were in Buffalo and won't necessarily come with him to KC.

He had the same issues in Carolina.

RunKC 12-06-2018 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 13938930)
Fat Kelvin is only explosive at the buffet line.

Damn. No wonder Andy wants this guy

Sassy Squatch 12-06-2018 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats. (Post 13938931)
Per the guys on 810- we have signed him.


Their take - 1st round talent at bargain basement price worth a try, and he's a type of WR we don't already have.

Pretty much. Low risk, high reward flier on a guy who had 1st round talent and showed it at the start of his career. Its not like we're relying on him.

T-post Tom 12-06-2018 01:13 PM

Good red zone compliment to Kelce. Watkins was supposed to help there, but it's hard to do from the bench.

Kiimo 12-06-2018 01:14 PM

Everybody thought the Cowboys were idiotic to trade a first for Cooper and he looks like their best receiver now.

This cost the Chiefs like...nothing. Conley is gone next year. Maybe the idea of a Superbowl will motivate him moving forward.

TribalElder 12-06-2018 01:15 PM

who goes if he comes in

west got hunts open spot

TribalElder 12-06-2018 01:16 PM

Also, free agent WR probably come into the practice facility, see mahomes throw a pass or two, and ask where they should sign.

A WR isn't shit without a good QB

The Franchise 12-06-2018 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 13938951)
who goes if he comes in

west got hunts open spot

Dieter or Kemp preferably.

farmerchief 12-06-2018 01:17 PM

Mahomes will quit looking his way, after he only catches 25% of the balls he’s thrown to him. Strange signing.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 12-06-2018 01:19 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We think we think we just saw Kelvin Benjamin leaving the Chiefs training complex.</p>&mdash; Matt Derrick (@mattderrick) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattderrick/status/1070750843450875904?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 6, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Easy 6 12-06-2018 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats. (Post 13938931)
Per the guys on 810- we have signed him.


Their take - 1st round talent at bargain basement price worth a try, and he's a type of WR we don't already have.

I'm down with it, we're a far cry from Buffalo

Sassy Squatch 12-06-2018 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 13938962)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We think we think we just saw Kelvin Benjamin leaving the Chiefs training complex.</p>&mdash; Matt Derrick (@mattderrick) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattderrick/status/1070750843450875904?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 6, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

**** that. Get your lazy ass out on that field with Mahomes and do some work.

The Franchise 12-06-2018 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13938966)
**** that. Get your lazy ass out on that field with Mahomes and do some work.

Gotta get some BBQ first man. Maybe he's picking up a quick order for Reid.

TribalElder 12-06-2018 01:24 PM

might have failed the physical

or he had to run down the street to L.C.'s real quick for lunch first

TwistedChief 12-06-2018 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Pest (Post 13938955)
Dieter or Kemp preferably.

Have to think Dieter returns to the PS. Kemp has too much value on special teams as the guy who misjudges everything and waives at the ball as it bounces into the end zone for a touchback. You can’t teach that.

If we sign him, I like it. Big, physical receiver that gives us something different from what we have. I’ll take him as a red zone option over Harris, and I’m sure Reid can get something out of him.

Frosty 12-06-2018 01:25 PM

I must have been living under a rock recently. When did Dieter join the active roster and whose place did he take?


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