See that's wrong, Houston was declining and Ford is not a fit in this scheme, today Clark is better than both of them.

Veach hates 1st round picks. That must be it.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs have indeed agreed to a deal in principle with Seattle for Frank Clark, I’m told. I expect any new deal the Chiefs agree to with Clark to be similar DeMarcus Lawrence’s with the Cowboys.</p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/status/1120745797728067585?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote>
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No, I would rather use the 1st on a rookie.
Make it a 2nd this year and next and I am ok.

Brett reach is correct. Trust the draft.

I was happy to see the one trick pony go to the 49ers.

I approve

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I can confirm that the deal has been agreed upon. As I told <a href="https://twitter.com/SorenPetro?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SorenPetro</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/KSeaboldt?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@KSeaboldt</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsRadio810?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SportsRadio810</a>, Frank Clark wants a new deal similar to what Demarcus Lawrence received from the Cowboys. <a href="https://t.co/hilCJS5yVL">https://t.co/hilCJS5yVL</a></p>&mdash; Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/1120743939231895552?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

thats too much for him

It means that Veach isn’t confident that he can identify and draft good edge talent.

LMAO

I love it.

This team needs to load up on studs to make a push.

Also, some of you are just LMAO LMAO

****ing celebrate trash signings like Attouchu while lambasting the acquisition of a real impact player.....JFC guys.

Newsflash: Real talent costs real assets.

You essentially gave up Dee Ford and a 1st Rounder for this guy as well as paying him the money that Ford would've gotten. You better hope Clark gets more sacks than Ford this next season and beyond or Veach is gone!

How about we pay our own ****ing guys instead of trading for this ****ing idiot. I bet Tyreek is gone. Veach needs to get ****ed. This ****ing idiots gonna get paid and not do a thing. I bet this completely bites us in the ass

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There is no comparing Frank Clark and Dee Ford so don’t try.</p>&mdash; Louis Riddick (@LRiddickESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/LRiddickESPN/status/1120746357667586048?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Look, I wasn't a fan of the idea of Clark. I'm leery of his off the field issues.

If you take that concern away, there's nothing to dislike here.

He's going to be 26 years old. He's a good all-around DE. He's a stud pass rusher. This isn't a one year fix, he'll be here for 3-4 years, and if we win a Super Bowl or two in that frame, he'll be a big part of that.

We had the cap space to do it. There wasn't going to be a guy at #29 with this sort of impact.

We still have two 2's and a higher 3rd now.

Would you really rather have like...drafted Jaylon Ferguson at #29?

Come on now. I'm worried about the off the field stuff. Nothing else to dislike here.

So that gives you this as your base defensive line.

Speaks - Nnadi - Jones - Clark

Jerry Jones once said something about acquiring elite things or something.

I can't remember what it is though lol.

If you guys didn't notice...the edge talent that will be there at 29 sucks...they'd have to move inside of 20 and they'd have given up at least as much as they gave up for Clark..

So at that point would you rather pay for the proven talent or the have the cheap unproven one?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There is no comparing Frank Clark and Dee Ford so don’t try.</p>&mdash; Louis Riddick (@LRiddickESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/LRiddickESPN/status/1120746357667586048?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Who could blame him? He cant draft worth a shit

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There is no comparing Frank Clark and Dee Ford so don’t try.</p>&mdash; Louis Riddick (@LRiddickESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/LRiddickESPN/status/1120746357667586048?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

FYP.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Getting an elite pro bowl level pass rusher who’s 25 for pick 30 is a bad trade? Don’t listen to the twitter sheep <a href="https://t.co/188eoFIhbM">https://t.co/188eoFIhbM</a></p>&mdash; John Middlekauff (@JohnMiddlekauff) <a href="https://twitter.com/JohnMiddlekauff/status/1120746891275227136?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote>
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We get it, but literally zero other people care about the off field stuff.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> need pass rushers in their switch to a 4-3 that can play the run too! Frank Clark will do that for them better than anyone in this draft can. He is one of the best young DE’s in the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/nfl?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#nfl</a>.</p>&mdash; Louis Riddick (@LRiddickESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/LRiddickESPN/status/1120746154323578885?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

or he doesnt like any that will be around at about 29! its not like we are trading a top 15 pick here.

Well....there goes my dream of Tillery or Adderley. At this rate....we'll draft a WR and RB in the 2nd round.

810 reporting rumors that it will be a mega-deal in the $100M+ neighborhood. No injury history and low tread on the tires (snapcount) are pluses. But he's going to have to be a STUD to justify everything the Chiefs are giving up. If he and Jones stay healthy, they're going to be a nightmare for opposing o-lines.

Mixed feelings.

Seems high. However, there is no argument Clark is a big upgrade over Ford and Houston. It seems doubtful the Chiefs would be able to draft the same production with what they are giving up.

The price just seems high.

Lawrence was 5 years 105 million. 65 guaranteed. Good Lord.

We’re trading a second as well that could be used to move up.

Also... Keep in mind, we could have traded up well into the top 20 by giving up a second round pick. And spent $20-25m less. This guy needs to be a dpoy.

:hmmm:

We also picked up the first pick in the 3rd round this year. Which is only a few picks away from what our 2nd would have been. I don't think this is as bad as you're making it out to be. I still say they make a play at Patrick Peterson as well. All we need is a defense ranked in the teens and we are going to steamroll to the title.

Reason I don’t like this:

Seahawks have a great gm and coaching staff and they need pass rushers badly.

Why would they move on from this guy if he’s good? They have more info on him than we do.

5 years 105 Million?

Good grief, no he doesn't.

My lord.

POS better average 12-15 sacks

Clark is twice the player Ford is.

Watch Veach trade up into the first round

With no guarantee that guy would be half as good as Clark...

If you DON'T care about the off the field stuff, and think this is a bad move, then you're a stupid mother****er.

Clark as a player is so much better than Dee Ford it's not even funny.

Clark is an elite all-around DE.

Clark is a better 4-3 DE than Clowney.

If Louis is in, I'm in.

well obviously Veach has made the decision that he is a better choice than whoever we would get in the 1st round anyway. We just cut Ford’s and Houston’s money off the cap. We can afford a good Edge player.

R. Wilson contract is why the Seahags did this.

See? When you say it out loud, it gets real reeruned real fast.

QFMFT

I wonder what chris Jones must be thinking right now? I bet he doesn’t re sign now. He sees Vlark get a mega deal but Veach won’t re sign one of his own

HWSTPOSY?

It's not just about sacks. He plays the run well and stays on the field healthy.

Dude...you are beyond reeruned.

I wonder what chris Jones must be thinking right now? I bet he doesn’t re sign now. He sees Vlark get a mega deal but Veach won’t re sign one of his own

Well if everything goes as planned, that will be pick 64....

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Frank Clark and Chiefs still are working out final details on what will be a massive contract extension and once it is agreed to, Clark will fly to Kansas City to take physical and finalize trade, per sources.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1120746142206181377?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

penbrook bro

Ummmm....no we didn't.

Too many other players to pay.

The issue is what we got for Ford, not what we spent for Clark.

I don't like the 1st round pick being gone either, but the Chiefs landed a premier player.

All of a sudden that Dline is a unit of strength, just like that.

We need playmakers and we don't have 2-3 years to wait for a rookie Edge rusher to grow up.

They paid Wilson and couldn't pay Clark?

Chiefs didn’t like what they saw in the 1st round. I like this trade a lot.

Chiefs will continue to prove us wrong when he balls out.

we’ve known for weeks that 29 is a barren wasteland with 2nd rd talent available. I get not liking the compensation bc I don’t either, but Frank Clark is GOOD.

I don't really care about the contract. But with that trade comp, we could have easily traded up and we could spend our $25m elsewhere. I can't understand for the life of me why we had to give up a second. We got fleeced.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Frank Clark has put forth three consecutive seasons with at least 56 pressures in Seattle and finished last season with a career-high overall grade of 77.4. <a href="https://t.co/HUyyZsl7RS">https://t.co/HUyyZsl7RS</a></p>&mdash; Pro Football Focus (@PFF) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1120742664029310978?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

And other teams won't be targeting Clark with the run like they did Ford.

Bullshit.

Yeah well, at this rate that's not the worst idea in the world.

I'd like a CB, personally, but We certainly filled a major hole with a sure thing stud pass rusher.

Can't wait to see how many of you ****ers are wearing Clark jerseys by October.

Last year he had 41 tackles, 10 tackles for loss, 13 sacks and three forced fumbles.

Making a big splash
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This x 1000.

We just added a 25 year old Uber stud and all people care about is “OMG VEACH SUCKS AT TRADES”.

Guess what: we still have two seconds in a good second round. The chances that 29 becomes a guy as half as good as Clark are slim to none, and we’re trying to win now, so....

The worst part about this is have we really improved as a defense all that much? If we're doing a scheme transition, and if that causes confusion problems in the first year for many of the players, what's the point of moving heaven and earth to get a guy right now to fill a hole?

Why don't we ****ing draft somebody and let them develop while the other guys on defense make the transition?

For ****'s sake. The defense is going to suck. With or without Clark. It's still going to ****ing suck this year.

Clark is there... we suck. We draft some guys... we suck. The difference is in one situation we get the benefit of cheap players 3-4 years down the line in the initial stages of the Mahomes extension. In the other situation we're paying $20 million each year to one guy over the course of that time.

I'm pretty pissed. We eventually have to stop this revolving door of GMs, but at this point I really ****ing hate Veach. He's goddamn clueless.

Carl, Pioli, and even Dorsey to some extent at least were able to put up the veil of walking away from a deal. They weren't afraid of inaction, because inaction is the only goddamn bargaining chip a team often has. Veach has none of that. "Buy low, sell high" means nothing to this loser. For as vocal as he is about certain players, he clearly doesn't trust his own ability to navigate a draft board or trust his scouting when Plan A doesn't go the way he planned.

He's horrible. He might be the weakest GM we've had since before Carl.

Other GMs clearly have him pegged as the douche who will give you anything you want.

The draft picks don't bother me so much -- I won't pretend to have watched a ton of Clark like apparently everyone here, and he's CLEARLY regarded in a tier closer to Mack than Ford -- but the money worries me when Jones, Hill and Mahomes are coming. We've just got so many big contracts.

Other than that, my main concern is ending up with yet another guy who doesn't live up to his contract. It's one thing manipulating the cap with guys who are actually worth $15-35m/year but another with a bunch of Houstons and Berrys.

BTW, people would've been happier about this 2 months ago just because the draft is 2 days away. Same for me. That excitement is gone now.

Everyone PaNiC!!!!

The Kansas City Chiefs will win the Super Bowl this season!

You are completely ignoring opportunity cost. We lost the ability to draft cheap talent at #29 that gives us a 5th year option. We lost an additional 2020 round pick that had value both this year for a trade up and next year as a pick. We lost cap flexibility. And lastly, we also most likely lost one of four players that need to be re-signed in the coming two years.

We lost more than we gained. It's a bad trade no matter what you guys want to make yourselves believe. If your plan is to run a franchise for one season it's wonderful, but long term it was stupid as **** and very short sighted.

same issue we are going to facing in 2 years.

Weren't people just complaining after we traded Ford and cut Houston that we didn't have any pass rushers?

Well we have a proven pass rusher and overall stud DE now.

Louis sucking the Chiefs dick because he knows he'll be a GM candidate for the job in a few years

He'll have to be to make the deal plausible. You have Chris Jones, Patrick Mahomes, Kendall Fuller, Tyreek Hill coming up so you essentially said goodbye today to two of these guys, if not three. When you pay Mahomes, Clark and Jones big money, you better hope that stable of thoroughbreds holds up. If Clark does his best Justin Houston impression then Veach is gone.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In reporting on the Frank Clark trade to KC over the weekend, I asked a lot of folks on whether he was THAT big an upgrade over Dee Ford.<br><br>The universal answer: Yes. Without question.</p>&mdash; Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/1120749101308612615?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Money. Seattle's got people to pay just like the Chiefs. Clark is definitely a win now move. How many edge/de guys have impacted for their team in their rookies season in the past decade? A handful at most. Chiefs still have 3 picks in the top 100 this year and next. Would have liked to gotten him cheaper but you got to pay for talent.

yep