The tapes we just heard would either be heard by the Chiefs, the NFL, or the public eventually. I'm not sure what bullet you think we are dodging that we are hearing them now.

Didn’t see that. Hill has two options here. Basically leave crystal behind and probably never have a relationship with your kids but still have a chance to play football or continue being with her and try to change but ultimately it will cost you your football career

ROFL
LMAO

Also I'm convinced God is NOT a Chiefs fan. LOL

Very possible, but it could also be a lack of a father figure growing up. We saw the video of his mom& him..she seemed pretty nice.

THIS.

This thread already corrupted by ****ing idiots.

A 3 year-old. Beaten. “Whooped”. Bones broken.

Cheetah can’t outrun this one.

We are a god damn Super Bowl contender.

God really does hate the ****ing Chiefs.

So ... I'm still unclear on this audio tape situation.

If the Popo hadn't yet heard the tape, they certainly have now. This likely means they'll subpoena the original device and any additional devices that could have been used to record this and other private conversations, yes?

Once that's been done, the odds just increased (astronomically) that Tyreek would be charged with abuse, correct? Perhaps, I mean. Some of the things he states in the recording could well be interpreted as potential abuse by an objective, reasonable observer. That's enough to charge, right?

And, based on her statements in the recording, there's also the potential that Baby Mama could be charged with lying to the Popo and/or some similar obstruction charge, correct?

That's pretty much where we are?

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Pretty obvious those 2 should have absolutely nothing to do with each other or the kids. He punched and choked her while she was pregnant. She recorded him without his knowledge saying some pretty bad shit and now it's out to the public. It's ****ing toxic.

Oh, so you know more about this than Johnson County DFS?

I'm saying she set him up...then released it to the media. Who does that when you are pregnant with his twins?...and just got a "no charges" verdict. They were in the clear to rebuild their lives..

Think about it...it's ****ing insane. What was gained here? Best case scenario is he loses his job and $80 million dollars..worst is their father goes to jail and you have three kids and no income.

that's another level crazy..

Just stop.

Yes

I do now.

Definitely know that she's a liar who should be charged with obstruction and/or outright perjury, that much is certain.

Based on that, I don't believe anything she's ever said.

Apparently the video phone recording is admissible in court in the state of Kansas

We also don't know if she has more tapes......If she was willing to do one - she may have more damaging to try and leverage something.

They most certainly are.
Probably trying to verify that the audio isn't faked, which might take a day or two. Once it's been sourced and confirmed legit, you have both of the parents obstructing a child welfare case. He's out of the league. He beats his three year old son, with a belt, punches him for crying. That's very serious child abuse.
If they don't cut him it's going to cost them a lot of fans.

Wouldn't be surprised if Hill got charged with obstruction as well.

You know **** all, friend.

Maybe they don't have due process in the Great White North, but that's not how we do things in the US and A, eh.

And these days if you talk to Adrian Peterson about child-rearing, all that therapy had zero effect on him.

He probably still uses the belt on any of the kids with any of the women he's ****ed. Maybe he avoids the scrotum now, though.

Such a huge ****ing improvement, right?

Tyreek is probably the same way. Guy was so close to getting a huge payday and he knew it, and he partook in this sort of pattern of behavior despite attending all of his mandatory counseling sessions in that entire span of being an NFL player.

He just couldn't ****ing resist it. The kid needed a severe ass-beating THAT badly, huh? In his mind he was probably doing the right thing, too, like he was being responsible.

That's just ****ed up.

The belt thing is fine. I got beat with a belt. Pretty sure a lot of people did growing up

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Don’t be a reerun.

You know the undeniable truth of this ugly relationship will come out eventually.

Pro-tip: it does not end well for Tyreek Hill and Crystal Espinal.

I got the belt all the time when I was a kid.

My dad loves the shit out of me.

And those of us who thought maybe it was risky to do that got a lot of grief for saying that.

You draw the line at asking questions? Sincere attempts to establish current clarity and a possible range of future alternatives?

What inferences are you drawing from my post? I'm authentically curious.

And, BTW, I'm not Mr. Donger, dude.

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He might be facing a laundry list of charges.

Obstruction
Conspiracy
Child Endangerment
Aggravated Assault

That DA can't be happy that this whole situation made him look like an incompetent buffoon. He's going to be coming after them ruthlessly now.

Jesus ...

This just got worse and I didn't think that was even remotely possible.

FAX

Oh shit.

fahhh

Crystal could also be facing charges as well

Great. When it rains it pours.

Looks like he may not have been home...

It did occur to me after the audio came out that Tyreek could take out his anger on Crystal. I hope he stays away instead.

Man, this situation is such a ****ing nightmare. I wanted so badly to believe that Tyreek had really reformed. ****.

Of course. She admitted to obstruction and it sounds like she was conspiring with Hill about it.

The football deity sure doesn't want the state of Missouri to enjoy football at any level.

He gave us Mahomes and then kicked us out of the garden of Eden.

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Tyreek please whatever you do just leave. Do not make this worse. Best thing you can do is stay away right now. NFL, Chiefs, DA, CPS are all involved. It’s a shit show

That's a fair trade.

Well..you cant think Hill is too happy about his GF giving the news a recording of a conversation where she was setting him up....and ruining his life.

What did they think was going to happen...with those two in the same room?

That's some toxic ass shit...depressing.

In this case we welcome Tyreek back to the team. Florio can get ****ed

There is a reason guys get taken off draft boards for beating and choking their pregnant girlfriend.

Shocking to hear, but high probability you deal with their bullshit in the future too.

Don't worry. No doubt he is meditating on next steps and building a comeback plan based on peace, truth, and wisdom.

You may have a legal argument, and 90% would agree she is as you describe.

The Genie is out of the bottle and it is too late to wish it back.
They are both whack. the whole deal is whack and the Chiefs have no other choice. The NFL will follow suit. The DA will be back on both of them sooner rather than later.

I am pissed and Reek is a dumbass. I mean a genuine 20 pt IQ idiot.
Rule #1 for NFL players wanting a new $100,000,000 contract-
Wake up and stay away from Cray Cray every day and all would be OK.
She must be a succubus.

Give me a ****ing break, PFT.

The amount of virtue signaling over this crap is annoying.

Where's all the hand-wringing for abused children of non-famous people? REPORT ON THAT SHIT YOU FAT MEDIA WHORES!!!

Your parents ever get CPS called on them?

Jussie Smolett beat his rap

It can be done.

And you guys thought you'd have nothing to talk about on day one of the draft.

I hope everyone is okay.

I should've went to bed when I had the chance...

It's dispiriting to see so many people say "my parents kicked my ass and I'm fine." You might think you are, but I guarantee that you're repressing a LOT of shit that needs to be unpacked.

Trauma is really ****ing complicated.

Tyreek needs to hire Smolletts lawyer

Nah actually it taught me discipline and to never make the same mistake again. It’s a life lesson. However I never got punched in the chest let alone when I was 3

Hunt was in line for an enormous payday, as well.

It's as if some guys self-sabotage.

What an absolute shit bomb this turned out to be.

FAX

I laughed.

We were never gonna pay Hunt tho

This?

Bring back Tyreek, just so we can stop having to endure the shittiness that is Florio's "reporting".

Him and Brooke Pryor can go cover professional ping-pong championships.

Think about this....

She was smart enough to make a tape (possibly more) - then give it to a friend. She knows Tyreek isn't afraid to put his hands on her. So in all likelihood - after news of the tape broke, she probably went to a police station for protection. If she has half a brain, she would know that she could have perjured herself - so she may have more tapes and say something like "for immunity, I will give you these"

She needs to read a book on blackmail. She was premature in her release

I can’t think of anyone who was so close to $100,000,000 and then they flushed it all down the shitter so fast. It is really something to behold.

Not if she has more.

I got the belt a couple of times but I didn't get spanked very much.

My dad hit me in the chest when I was in high school, but I was acting like a complete asshole to my mom.

That’s high school. That’s different. Not when you 3 years old!!

heh

I doubt that stupid bitch can read Fun with Dick and Jane or the old Cowboy Bill books, much less comprehend a book on blackmail.

Still trying to figure out what a 3 year old could do that would warrant being whipped by a belt.

He can hire OJ's lawyers. Isn't going to change the fact that he went from being an inch away form a $100 million contract to most likely nothing. That's done. Isn't going to be undone. If he does play again it'll be on trial basis contracts, trying to earn his way back, type of stuff. He'll age a bit and lose a step and disappear. And that's his best case.

Blackmail and extortion. She may be as dumb as Tyreek. Dumb and dumber three featuring Crystal and Tyreek

I agree

Silver lining: This is really going to make your salary cap management a lot easier in the next few years than it would have been.

he has no guaranteed cash yet. should have waited a year

Abuse is abuse. Stop putting levels of abuse on a power ranking like you're trying to determine if getting whacked in the balls should be above or below Ohio State.

Remember when Kelce has maturity issues now you don’t hear a peep because he has grown up on the field. Hill needs to follow whatever Kelce did to get it turned around.

No doubt...we automatically assume the male is at fault..Women, generally, are the life givers and nurturers...nobody suspects they could possibly play a role...or straight up evil.

That was some bone-chilling, cold-ass shit she just pulled...takes two to tango...or kill a promising career.

This is insanity...you are just watching this like passing a 20 car pile up.

I'm glad they took that kid away...neither is fit to raise a child....but that woman is ****ing crazy.

Congratulations...those two just burnt everything to ground. Now they can get the **** out of each others lives for good..

LOLLER

The league really doesn’t care about this shit. Look what our old friend Dorsey tried to trade up for tonight.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...three-players/

Pointed this out earlier. If this had all come to light a few months later the Chiefs would be screwed. As it is it sucks to lose an incredible WR, but he was a fifth round rookie on his first contract.

Dorsey doesn’t give a shit. If we released Hill, He would be a Brown tomorrow morning

This sort of rationalization is a common and totally understandable coping mechanism.

I'm telling you, there's no justification for hitting a kid. There is nothing to be learned from it.

The cognitive dissonance of believing your parents love you while knowing they mistreated you is ****ing hard to deal with.

The thing is, they probably did love you. But that doesn't mean they didn't mistreat you. Being able to acknowledge that fact is when the real personal growth begins. But it's a tough ****ing process.

I really hope Tyreek's kid gets set up with a great therapist who knows how to handle early childhood trauma. He's going to need it.