I think if Andy and Veach didn't have a Plan B as soon as this whole mess started then we're in trouble.

I did a full analysis of all avail. Youtube vids last night on Deebo. I feel like I need to pump the brakes on Deebo a little. He's more of a utility guy; I think it'd make sense if we needed a KR as well. I'm not sure he's not Robinson's upside. I'd like to see us focus on on AJ Brown or Campbell.

I see Deebo as a pure slot Jarvis Landry type. Nothing wrong with that, but no, not a deep threat really by nature.

If we could work a deal to get PP w/ some of next drafts' picks - I'd be perfectly fine w/ Justice Hill in the 3rd. Should he fall (& I think he might)

agreed and I was disillusioned due to his big KR's last season. Back peddling over here.

Sharing again - the CP'ers need to see him


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Sorry, he's a RB. Not interested until tomorrow.

oh that's okay hun!

Do not take Justice Hill!! The last time we selected a RB named Hill who played at Oklahoma State turned out to be a women and child abuser

Isabella and Hardman are interesting but so small and Hardman is anything but. Weak as shit.

I like Isabella I just pause at 5'8. He's very very fast though. I wouldn't hate it.

I think they're high on Pringle...….isn't he a burner?

Did not say it could not happen but the odds are below 20% that a 2nd/ 3rd wr is able to come in a contribute.

I mean last year there was like 8 taken in 2nd and 3rd Michael Gallup could say contributed. Year before 11 Kupp, and Shuster But the complete misses are a lot higher.

He's a real "lunch pail" kinda guy.

Jeez Isabella ran the 100 in 10.5 and had the fastest 60 time in the nation.


Here's a writeup

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I'd be fine with DK, AJ, Parris or this guy. Whichever one they feel best about and also won't punch babies.

Tonight is going to ****ing suck. Be prepared to watch the run on WRs and CBs start....and start early. I have a feeling that Murphy and Greedy are going in the top 5.

Not expecting to get those two at all.

Not seeing Miles Boykin’s speed on tape. He’s been run down a time or two even. Really big though so it’s not a huge issue.

Looks quicker making cuts than he is just straight line fast.

I really like Justin Layne

Parris Campbell has speed to burn. Does a lot of motion stuff too. This could be the guy.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdY5u5WeBM

See? THIS guy( the OP )has an idea or ideas. Was that so ****ing hard? But, you're a follower so I don't expect anything from you anyway.

Parris Campbell is my favorite WR in this draft. I’d trade up a bit even to take him

Gotta keep level of competition in mind but Issabella looks good. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1jyy1oqlu24

Sounds like Campbell is smart asf

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Meet The 2019 WR Class:<br><br>• <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OhioState?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#OhioState</a> Parris Campbell skipped Kindergarten and enrolled at OSU as a 16-year old.<br><br>• <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OhioState?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#OhioState</a> Parris Campbell caught 90 passes in 2018 and his aDOT was just 4.5 yards.<br><br>•<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WVU?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WVU</a> David Sills received a scholarship from USC as a 7th Grade QB.</p>&mdash; Steve Frederick (@_SteveFrederick) <a href="https://twitter.com/_SteveFrederick/status/1119591671828815873?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 20, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The number of "really good receivers" in this draft was limited to begin with, and they aren't going to be available on day 2.

That the Chiefs are/were incapable of keeping an ear to the ground and knowing what was about to transpire with Hill does absolutely nothing to instill any confidence in me going forward in to todays draft proceedings.

They'd be better off sticking to their original board and seeing what shakes out after the draft, and watching who's coming and going on the wire once camp starts.

Sad, but if you don't prepare for the worst, you can't execute a good contingency plan. And these guys completely went to sleep on their watch.

Hardman is my favorite so far. WOW. Some serious speed there and athleticism. Seems to run good routes and tracks the ball fine. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l-vEh0APdVU

1:52 he does the Hill peace sign lol


He's so fast. Isabella is even faster.

Hardman blew me away with his game speed. He looked a bit different than everyone else, a bit more sure of what he was doing. I’m a fan.

What I'd like:

Round 2 #29 - Miles Boykin, WR
Round 2 #31 - Sean Bunting, CB
Round 3 #20 - Kahale Warring, TE
[Trade 2020 3rd] Round 4 #15 - Lamont Gaillard, C
[Trade 6th and 5th] Round 5 #5 - Sheldrick Redwine, S
[Trade 7th and 6th] Round 6 #10 - Darwin Thompson, RB

Only players I'd willingly trade up for in the second are Hakeem Butler, Greedy, and AJ Brown.

might have to consider making a trade before the deadline during the season for a WR, unless Robinson or someone else really steps it up. Trades seem to be more common these days.

If they take Boykin when Parris and Isabella and Deebo and DK are gettable then you can cancel any superbowl plans. Gross.

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Some of you mother****ers need to remember Pat had jack shit at Texas Tech and STILL lit up the scoreboard against an LSU defense stacked full of first rd talents.

Yep.

This offense will be fine. Boost the defense and create balance in the force.

I like Parris myself but Boykin is a much more refined receiver. He's already better than Parris at beating press, as a ball carrier, and at the catch point.

Boykin's ability to decelerate is a difference maker. He has the potential to be Josh Gordon without the baggage.

Campbell is not a bad get, I like him. But I have no clue how you can say Boykin is gross. That man has potential to be a HOFer.

Maybe this is unrealistic but I think it would be better for the Chiefs to try to trade for a veteran WR, rather than relying on a rookie WR(s) to make an impact next season.

Obviously there is no realistic scenario to replace Tyreek’s skill set, but maybe a trade for Albert Wilson? He knows the offense and he was signed for Adam Gase’s offense in Miami so maybe he would be available.

Maybe a call to the Bengals to see if AJ Green is available? They look to be in a rebuilding mode so maybe he can be acquired at the right price.

Gross is because he's the #12 rated receiver who doesn't play up to his measurables and is compared to Donte Moncrief and I don't imagine a guy who can never put up 100 yards in a game is the answer.

Miles Boykin never put up 100 yards in a game? Sure about that?

Moncrief. Moncrief doesn't.

So because someone compared Boykin to Moncrief......that means that Boykin will never hit 100 yards in a game. Got it.

Comparisons by anyone are ****ing stupid and pointless.

Well there it is. Case closed.

Boykin = Moncrief = he will never hit 100 yards in a game.

Come on man. You must realize how ridiculous that sounds saying that out loud right? Scouts fluctuate dramatically on their opinions.

If you replace Boykin with Campbell, Mclaurin, Isabella, or Hardman i would love this draft.

I just think we need SPEED to go with Mahomes' arm.

I don't think Hardman is going to cost a 2nd and no thanks to Isabella.

Samuel reminds me of Hill coming out of college

IMO you can get McLaurin and Hardman in the third, they both have some questions marks in key areas for me.

Isabella I have a slight beef with in that I don't think he will be able to translate to the NFL as successfully as others. Tight coverage is going to be a problem for him as I don't think he has the smarts Edelman does.

Campbell is definitely a possibility I'm okay with. Both him and Boykin would be fantastic value in the 2nd.

...Yeah you are right here, it does.

Do we go back to back WRs tonight and a CB or CB WR and Safety

I'm not kidding I'd be okay with two wide receivers and one defensive back.

I doubt 4.3 speed lasts past round two.

Tyrann needs his buddy Greedy

Me too! If all the CBs are gone in the second take back to back WR. A big body receive and a speed threat

If we draft any one of the fast as **** WR's and a CB in round two, I'd like a TE in the 3rd.

If we're going to have to do some different things on offense, let's add the 2 TE wrinkle.

How about

Parris Campbell
Deebo Samuel
Sean Bunting

Or maybe somehow Taylor Rapp falls to us? I'd jump on that so fast.


edit: yeah I'd do TE in place of one WR if there's a good one.

As long as we have Mahomes, we will be in contention for a SB. Irregardless of the level of quality players around him.

How fast is this K-State guy Pringle? I keep forgetting about him.

Fanspeak completes the 1st round for you now and lets you mock 2-7. This is what I came up with.

2A. Amani Oruwariye, CB, Penn State
2B. Jace Sternberger, TE, Texas A&M
3. Mecole Hardman, WR, Georgia

Chiefs need a speedy WR, at least 5' 10" with decent hands. Good route running would be icing on the cake. Then a decent CB, with good tackling fundamentals. After that, I like a TE, provided he has decent blocking skills.

That's Parris Campbell, Sean Bunting and Jace Sternberger.

i could live with that. two tight end threats and the ability to line up that way would be hellanice. but i dont know that we have the run game to sell that we may run may pass. id like a decent running back tomorrow. im a huge justice hill fan but cant convince myself hes worth it today if he falls. but a two tight end set with two backs that can burn like justice hill and damien williams would be nasty.

If the Chiefs are going with more JAG-like WRs, particularly when Watkins gets hurt, I think they need to beef up the interior o-line, particularly at C, to give Pat more time. Also another TE to act as an outlet receiver. I'm mostly hoping they can come away with WR, TE, C and S in this draft and anything else will be gravy.

I think that's killer.

We are going to have to trade down with a 2nd rounders. I mean we have 2-2 1-3 and no 4's so not seeing how we come away with that many starters. You really can't count on the 5th- 7th if any work out it is gravy. Guess CB is also top of the list.

Get two WRs tonight. One TE. Trade for Patrick Peterson. Win the Super Bowl.

There are none.

Yes!

Yeah I'm sure Moe and Larry WR along with Shemp the TE are going to get it turned around and back on track.

This franchise is so stupid it literally hurts.

If Veach goes and blows his wad on 2 second round WR's, then he's worse at drafting then I could have ever possibly imagined.

Stick to the initial board, or just die already.

So what should they do, not pick up anyone?

They’re not finding another Tyreek. But that doesn’t mean you just stop adding receivers. There is depth there right now. They would be stupid if they didn’t take at least one wide out.

I like the wr from Iowa state too

That’s the point though. WR and CB specifically might be the two positions with the most 2nd round level players. They didn’t have many if any 1st round level, but they are deep with day 2 players.

Two rookie WRs isn't going to do a ton for this offense. Draft one and if you still don't think it's enough....go find a veteran.

Im in. Where do i sign?

Looking at the current roster of WRs, bottom line, we have to draft a WR that can take the top off the defense. I like Metcalf but I doubt he'll be available by the time we pick.

If there any fast WRs with decent hands by the time we pick, we should take him, period.

Metcalf, IMO, would be ideal because although he lacks explosion, his size, verticality, and athleticism make him a match-up nightmare in the redzone, where separation is less of an issue. And while he is very raw and doesn't have good fundamentals w/route running (his footwork is just not good), I believe he could be taught, and Ried would be the best teacher he could have in all respects.

Ried would just have to get PM to orchestrate drives into the opponents' redzone consistently, instead of scoring from our own 14-yard line. This I think would be the most difficult aspect of the whole thing. Pat loves firing rockets 50+ yards downfield, and hasn't really gotten comfortable (though he has been wildly successful anyway) inside the 15 yet. Yet. But I think he'll be better this year.

Lance Zierlein has has taking the following two players in the second


Trayvon Mullen
Oshane Ximines

I'm sorry but drafting two WR's in day 2 would be an extremely egregious use of resources. Throwing more bodies at the problem isn't taking us to the SB. You simply need to identify the right guy as there's already too many needs and not enough picks to fill them currently.

Tonight is where Veach needs to earn his keep.

Change in ownership

Change in fanship

Evan Silva from Rotoworld has us drafting Parris Campbell and Hakeem Butler in the 2nd round.

I am hard now

Jesus. I don't feel like drafting two is the way to go but I'm not going to deny that would be ****ing insane.

After listening to Frank Clark’s press conference I actually feel like Veach is the one making the moves not Reid