He'd better be in there at LG until he shows he can't hack it. Because nobody we've had at LG has had a game like that in years. He was outstanding against Buffalo. Small sample size, yeah, ok-but that spot has sucked balls for several seasons now and nobody has looked that good.

The OL should be:

LT: Fisher
LG: Allegretti
C: Kilgore
RG: Wylie
RT: Schwartz

Remmers should start for Schwartz until he gets healthy.

It shocks me that Wylie did such a solid job against Buffalo.

Nick "Pancake" Allegretti

Yep, me too. Maybe seeing the guys next to him steam-rolling fools lit a fire under his ass.

Yea, maybe.

I saw offensive lineman blocking until the whistle. I saw them finish a guy then go help with another guy.

It was shocking to see, awesome, but shocking.

Our Oline blocking normally seems so lazy. It didn't against Buffalo.

If this is the new norm then keep starting the backups. **** it.

The book on Allegretti coming out of college was that he played with a bit of a mean streak. Wouldn't be at all disappointed if that has started to rub off on the rest of them.

Nicky "Incognito" Allegretti?

Depth chart came out, Kilgore is indeed the #1 Center and Allegretti is still #2 LG behind Remmers

If Schwartz is still hobbled Remmers out to RT and Allegretti will start at LG.

Might happen

Wack. Allegretti is definitely better than Remmers at LG.

Both him and Kilgore were dirty all game. All of our errors last week were addressed and tightened. Fun day it was, yesterday. Great win!

Only if we call his wife MRS PANCAKE




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Not only that, but is Kilgore not the perfect name for an offensive lineman? It just sounds like a guy that's gonna crack some skulls. Nick Allegretti sounds like a guy that comes to your house when you don't pay your bookie and twists your head off and puts it in a bowling ball bag to bring back to his boss as proof.

Kilgore likes the smell of PANCAKES in the morning, and he's gotta WHOLE stack of' em to his left BROTHER

If I'm remembering correctly, the guy didn't give up a single sack in college. Legit.

From what I remember, Wylie struggled with pass pro. Run blocking, he was fine.

Wylie was pancaking fools on screen plays

It was less than a few for sure. I remember seeing that and wondering how the guy lasted so late in the draft.

I know competition and everything, but that’s just really good production no matter what level you’re at.

And then by the time Schwartz is healthy, they won’t move Allegretti out if he’s playing well

Talked to a buddy of mine who played TE for ASU and is from Chicago (Allegretti is from Frankfort) and he said everyone around those parts was shocked Allegretti lasted until the 7th.

He allowed a total of like 3 qb pressures without a sack. Competition? Dude played in the Big 10 against some high 1rst round D lineman.

Good God Fisher

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Eric Fisher moves dudes where he wants them �� <a href="https://twitter.com/Big_Fish79?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Big_Fish79</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/dPprHlxDQe">pic.twitter.com/dPprHlxDQe</a></p>&mdash; The Checkdown (@thecheckdown) <a href="https://twitter.com/thecheckdown/status/1318717500553535488?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Pancakes by 2 different linemen on the same play. :whackit:

Yeah no shit. B10 not good enough???

that and open up his own Italian restaurant called "Gretti's".:thumb:

He should start Gretti's IHOP in KC. Gretti's Italian House of Pancakes. Serve spaghetti and pancakes. Those would sell like....hotcakes.

How about pancakes made of spaghetti?

:bravo::bravo::bravo::bravo:

Welcome first time poster.

Thank you. Great forum

Fisher continues to improve.

Allegretti played with great energy! He was helping guys up after the play and really flashing with his effort. You could sense that he was embracing this opportunity and playing with pure joy. It was really fun to watch the unit work together, very pleasant surprise with the lineup adjustments. The weather conditions and Buffalo coverage allowed the OL to get in a groove. Hopefully adding Kilgore and Allegretti will shake things up and they can stay healthy for the duration. Next man up appears to be Yasir Durant, with Martinas Rankin possibly returning from PUP list at some point this season. Danny Isidora and Darryl Williams on the practice squad could become relevant, maybe depending on Reiter's injury situation.

The OL seems to have responded to that ass kicking they got from Oakland by re-focusing and the coaches made some changes. The line that whooped buffalo needs to be the OL the rest of the year.

I think this guy might just be a long term starter on the IOL.

all about it.

He's played well. I think he, and others, make the argument that the Chiefs don't necessarily need to invest high picks on IOL. The Chiefs know how to identify and develop these guys.

Haven't paid much attention to Allegretti, but I'll take everyone's word that he's been solid. But besides him, who else are these "others" that prove you don't need to use a high pick on the IOL?

Hudson
Morse
LDT
Schwartz

and so on. Reuter and Wiley aren't great, but they've been fine.

Hudson and Morse were 2nd round picks, I'd call that a high draft pick. I agree we don't need to use a first, but I also think the 2-4 range is the sweet spot for IOL talent.

I also don't agree that Reiter and Wylie have been fine. We need an upgrade on the inside.

We need a big center

We won a SB with them and are 9-1 this year with the #1 offense in the NFL. What is your definition of fine? I certainly agree we could/should upgrade as soon as possible, but unlike you I understand that we have other needs and they just likely don’t value the position enough to pass up on a WR, DE, or LB if it comes down to it.

You think it’s Madden and you can have studs that you’re 100% happy with at every position. It’s not.

What you said doesn't necessarily negate what I said. I said the sweet spot is rds 2-4. With an extra pick likely in rounds 3 & 4 it should be easy to fit a C/G in there while still using our 1st on a DE and more help at WR, DE, CB, etc. early on.

I'm not even asking for a stud on the interior, just some guys who aren't pushovers like Reiter and Wylie are. I'm also of the opinion that Schwartz probably isn't around much longer, and while hopefully Niang steps in for him, he's probably not going to play at the same level as Schwartz in his prime. We're going need improvement elsewhere on the OL to make up for the dropoff there.

Luckily Reid shits out OL like the Shanahan's shit out RB's.

I'm coming around to the idea. Earlier in the season I was a bit worried and starting to think we needed to invest heavily in the OL, but Mahomes and Reid are great deodorants. We've been one of the best offenses of all time for the last three seasons while rotating a bunch of replacement level guys on the interior.

With Watkins potentially leaving, DRob needing to be replaced/improved, Keizer needing to be euthanized, we can pretty much just go BPA.

Patrick Mahomes has been sacked 12 times in 10 games yet if you only get your information from Chiefsplanet, you'd think the Chiefs lead the league in sacks taken.

The Chiefs also lead the league in scoring and are 2 yards behind Arizona for #1 in total offensive yardage.

The development of Allegretti goes a long way in fixing the line. And I love the fact that Fisher has played so well next to him. And while the Chiefs have a knack of drafting guys in the mid and lower rounds and getting solid players. Let's be honest, those players sit and learn for a year before earning their spots. And as a resident O-Line homer, I don't want the Chiefs to go crazy and spend a bunch of high draft picks on the line. But as mentioned above, we need a Center badly. And it would make go a LONG way in improving the entire line play. I think Niang is a great prospect. And hell, I'm high on Darryl Williams too. Regardless, I'd spend a 2nd or third rounder on an offensive linemen if there was a guy I wanted at a position of need.

Look, we can debate this all we want, but if Veach is sold on Niang, Williams, and we get LDT back for a year, then all you defensive homers will probably get your wish.

Exactly.

Yeah, but that's mostly because Mahomes is a wizard. Alex Smith or probably 20 other starting QBs behind this same OL would have taken 25-30 sacks by now.

When Rankin and Schwartz return, an Oline of Fisher, Rankin, Allegretti, Remmers, and Schwartz would protect Mahomes better and produce better results on interior runs, imo. Allegretti was drafted for the center position because Veatch liked how he performed at the position in the East/West Shrine game. It would be helpful in draft prep if he could lock down the position in the remaining regular season games.

But that’s kind of the point. Mahomes is our QB, not Alex Smith. We don’t need to invest high picks on the OL as long as he’s our QB.

That doesn’t mean you don’t ever do it, just that you don’t have to. If Creed Humphrey is there at 29-32, he might be BPA. If Wyatt Davis somehow fell to our pick, I’d probably be the first to pound the table for him.

At the same time, I fully expect the Chiefs to value WR, DE, or LB more.

I already agreed with the overall point, but I recognize that pointing to sack totals isn't necessarily indicative of OL play. Mahomes masks a lot of their issues.

It would be helpful, but now's not the time to **** around with that shit.

The Chiefs know what he can and can't do. If they decide to look to him as the starting C next year, they can probably make that move with confidence. And if it doesn't work out (or if Allegretti gets hurt), it's not like they're not going to have backup options.

We'll be fine.

I'm a fan and hope he can lock in a spot be it center or guard

I'll gladly trade a little pass pro ability for some brutish nastiness, and this big mob muscle looking mfer seems to have that in spades

I find it amazing how plug and play the Oline has been. We out rushed the Raiders last night. Haven't really noticed a drop off since Osemele went down. Guess we should just trust that Reid and Bert probably know what they're doing.

That doesn’t take everything into context. Last night we ran the Alex Smith gameplan bc our original gameplan did not work as well against the controlled rush.

We did a ton of quick passes, RPO’s, runs and some screens.

OL will always look better that way, however our long drives drained the Raider defense by the 4th quarter which is why Pat had forever to throw the ball on that last drive.

That's complete and utter speculation.

This team went 12-4 to the AFC Championship and lost, then 12-4 and won the Super Bowl, then 9-1 to start the 2020 season, which is completely ****ed by COVID from any perspective, yet this forum is STILL PACKED with defeatists and people that constantly complain about the Chiefs.

Whataboutism is ****ing bullshit as well.

You mother****ers are just flat out mother****ing miserable.

Yeah, no shit lol

But I can take a look at the sack numbers Alex Smith took behind similar lines under the same scheme while comparing it to the number of sacks Mahomes takes and determine that he’s a ****ing wizard. QBs like Roethlisberger, Flacco, Carr, Ryan etc wouldn’t do much better.

Absolutely agree on the tired defense. It's really the same idea the Titans use to just wear out the defenses with Henry. He just trucks people in the 4th quarter.

I think mid round picks would be fine.

I'd rather see DE, LB, or CB early. But that's just me.

You should be able to find good OG's and C's with those two #4's, for example next year.

Anyway, I think Alegretti's been doing a great job.

I don't necessarily agree that late round and UDFA is the way to build a good line, though. It's real hit or miss.

I think it'll be time to use some mid round picks to restock this offseason.

I do hate Reiter. And Wylie.

But it's not like I'm not aware that we're WORLD CHAMPIONS or anything.

Just keep stock piling talent

The ol is playing fine.

Illini Brings it..

Next man up, and our next man manned up and played himself a damn nice ballgame against the SECOND best D in the league.

Can't ask any more from a backup than what Allegretti gave us today. :bravo:

He was very emotional on the field after the game

Coin Guy!

Got whooped on some plays but showed true grit

The biggest tragedy of Thuney being out was they couldn't bring in Allegretti as an eligible 6th lineman to catch a fat guy TD

Gave up a sack but moved some dudes in the running game.

Dude he was really bad in the second half.

Thuney being out showed though

He was fine.. That defense upped their game in the second half..

Thuney was supposed to be a huge glaring weakness for us.

Thankfully, we have this beautiful Italian bastard. He did just enough.

Hope Thuney is ready for the SB.

I was glad to see the Chiefs be able to bring him back this year. I thought sure that someone would sign him. I bet that after his game today he will get some looks next off-season.

Look at what it means to him. He's so appreciative of all the support we gave him. Good ****ing job Nick!

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he's obviously no Thuney but he did a good job filling in when he had to. I like the guy

Allegretti is one of my favorite non-starters. Each year we get him back I celebrate a little.

You'd think that the Baltimore game + 2 more weeks of practice should help integrate the new guy into the line.

Whenever he's been called upon he's always "showed up". To see what it means to him is incredible. Fan me! Keep this guy around Breach!

If you don’t like this guy, go **** yourself