Easy.

Have you met PA Squirrel tits?

You wouldn’t even make my top 10 :D

Quoted so JJ can see it after (possibly) blocking you too

Site autocorrected PA queef guy...

We're not getting anyone at the bottom of the 1st round even remotely close to Pat Pete in terms of helping us win a Super Bowl(s) while Mahomes is on his rookie deal.

Give them the 1st, win 2 rings, then let the chips fall where they may.

Someone please ask jj to take me off of ignore. I miss our interesting conversations about the big bang being a liberal hoax or whatever :(

Hurry up Veach! Before we have to fly a ****ing banner!!!

Do teams really trade first round picks for corners that old? Is that really a thing? I know veach is kind of stupid, but I doubt he’s that stupid.

Meh, Talib is still elite.

If it finally gets us over the top then I don't really care what they give up.

This team will be the best in the NFL by far for the next 2 seasons.

After shoving Tyson Jackson out of the way.

God forbid we trade basically a 2nd round coin flip for a guy who makes our defense almost as good as our offense.

Sign us up for a PP please.

:(

Peterson has four good years left for sure. He's 28.

Yep I've been saying it I'd trade him and extend him through age 32

Veach is going to make a trade right around training camp. Listen to his interviews, he flat out says as much.

Link?

His entire injury history is also nothing but a couple strains and sprains and one concussion that he didn't miss one game for.



https://sportsinjurypredictor.com/pl...-peterson/4748

In this case I would certainly hope not. Also, the trading an "early second" bullshit excuse is getting old.

Although I expect our first round pick, hopefully to actually be almost the first pick in second round, I wouldnt give it up for PP. I WOULD trade him our second round pick we obtained from the 49'ers though. He still has probably 4 or more good years left, but he wants a better contract, thats why he's unhappy with Arizona. Depends how we could structure a new contract? I would think he would be more than happy to come to KC, as we sure are closer to a super bowl appearance than Arizona.

1. Trade 1st for PP
2. Trade 2nd for Leonard Fournette
3. Trade 3rd for AJ Green
4. Trade 4th for Random O-Lineman
5. Trade 5th for Chili Dog
6. Save your 6th and 7th round picks - gotta be careful with the picks after all.
7. Win 5 super bowls.
8. Tank for #1 overall and trade Mahomes for a 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5. Have a secret deal when he returns to the Chiefs during free agency.

Rinse, repeat.

Ez being a GM.

Agree. Draft. They have done decent the last few years. Trust the system. Trading 1st for players wanting paid is the wrong way.

Pay your own, qb first, draft well, then add free agents.

We sign this mutha****a yet?

I would do it for a second rounder but if I am giving a first rounder it would have to be for Jalen Ramsey or Xavien Howard who are both 25 and better players and cheaper for this season and they kind of fit into that age bracket with the rest of the players on defense.

The Dolphins would trade Josh Rosen before they trade Xavien Howard



edit: and SECONDS LATER he gets paid

The Cards gave up Rosen for a 2nd so the 49ers second should be enough for PP. Especially if he's making a stink about not getting the new deal he expected. And the way Veach has been doing contracts, I'd expect he'd give himself an out after 3 years of a 5 year new contract for PP.

We shit this sign of piece yet?

Have we acquired that magnificent PP yet?

Plus regardless of what you think will happen with Hill (even I am leaning towards thinking he'll still be with the team) he ain't getting a giant contract this offseason.

Chiefs have money to burn and may as well spend it at the biggest need.

I'm curious, it says 11 mil for 2019 and 12.05 for 2020. When I google cornerback contracts for NFL. Peterson is always coming up with 14 mil, ave, per year? What am I missing?

Probably prorated signing bonus added. If he's traded AZ pays the remainder of the signing bonus.

Can’t imagine PP would want to waste his final years of playing football watching the cardinals first round draft pick bust and the front office get turned over again

I’m so hard right now!!

let's get this deal done!

I have had a THROBBING BONGER all day lorng

Giving up a first in 2019 was acceptable because we knew the state of the draft and also because we were getting a great player who happened to be in the right age group.

We're not going to give away a first-round pick on a draft that we don't have any kind of read on, that's just not going to happen. We're not going to sit here and assume that it's going to be a loaded draft where first-round talent falls into the second round. We would be idiots to do so.

If the Cards are hell-bent on a first to make this deal happen, it won't be happening with the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Keep holding out Patrick, and we’ll get you here

You may be right that they won't do it, but that's exactly backwards of how teams usually value future picks. Traditionally a 2020 first right now is worth significantly less than a 2019 first would have been.

I suppose that would make sense since you can't really assign any value to it at this point.

Other than the chart itself which means dick.

You gotta think we'll be picking pretty late too, even if we're no better than this year, so we're basically talking a second round value anyway. Ditto if we try to get them to say a 2nd and 4th. Equivalent to a 3rd and 5th. Would you fault them for not taking that?

Although we've had a lot of folks here complaining about us not getting enough back in trades. So maybe we can get another team to do the same.

Take the mother ****er. Get that superbowl NOW.

I have no problem giving up a second and 4th.
The second is correct value and the fourth is practically a throwaway.

That said, one CB doesn't guarantee you a f****** super bowl

I can't speak for them, obviously, but I would guess a bottom-of-the-round 2020 first IS the equivalent of a second round pick from the Cardinal's perspective. Along those lines, I think expecting them to be happy with what to them is a 3rd and a 5th is a pipe dream.

You know what really worries me? We saw Andy Reid go all-in for a couple years with the Eagles, in pretty much the same way they have this year. And we all know how that went. Hopefully Mahomes is enough.

The big problem is getting Andy to get out of his own way.

Absolutely this, as Apollo Creed once said...

THERE IS NO TOMORROW!!!

And veach wasn't drafting a safety, remember?


Might as well just shut up at this point

Which draft trades didn't follow the chart this year?

This is all ancillary stuff. No one in here is confused. We win a Super Bowl its because of Mahomes. Mahomes goes down, so does our Super Bowl hopes.

The NFL CBA is up in 2 years. The cap is going up for sure. But that doesnt really help us because it goes up for everybody.

We are going to have less talent around Mahomes in 2022. Brady pulled it off with having little top tier talent around him. Mahomes is good enough to pull that off too but, thats some future time to consider. Nothing is guaranteed. This time may never come again.

Right now, in a few months, we have a great chance to win a Super Bowl. Peterson on our team increases our chances to win a Super Bowl in the next 2 years. Right now, is the time to go all in. 2 years from now Kelce may be gone or started his inevitable decline due to age. Now is the ****ing time to win a Super Bowl.:harumph:

Agree 100%, BRC. Let’d Do this!

We need to save some all in for next season too guys. And this guy is hardly Deion Sanders at age 30. You say he doesn't have any injuries? Well guess what, that means he's due. And he's not getting any younger.
I was all for it prior to picking up Clark, but that first round pick is gone now. We made our choice and it's time to move on.

I'm pretty sure the Chiefs CB of choice was off of the board this year by the time they were in a position to make a trade up and pick.

Or maybe they really do think Thornhill is all that, I couldn't say. Whatever the case, Patrick Peterson was not their first plan / first choice in the pursuit of a cornerback. If he were, this deal would already be done. How do I know this? Well, ask yourself this question; how long does our GM **** around waiting to pick up talent that he wants? No time at all. Zero. Zip.

Also, thank you to all posters for not quoting SCROATO's ramblings, as they are an affront to God's eyes and make the baby Jesus weep.

what are you talking about dipshit?

they had a deal to move up into the first before the hill audio leaked

No problem giving up a 2nd & 4th for PP, let's do this!

For that price I am all in!

No offense, but eat my ass hole u dumb bich!!!!!!!

Pull down your pants and spread the little f***** fishboy. :)

Be careful, KCLee got hammered for saying this. I have been thinking it for a few months now.

We have Mahomes, though. That’s the difference between 2012 Philly and KC.

I don’t see this as an all in type of scenario. We cut players who were making more than their worth, and didn’t fit the current scheme/culture. It’s been a defensive rebuild on the fly. We haven’t added many known commodities on offense unless you’re counting Hyde. We have no TE2 worth a damn, and Kelce is coming off surgery. The Hill scenario is up in the air, and Watkins can’t be counted on for 16 games. I wish this was an all in deal but it doesn’t seem that way to me.

Mahomes is the difference. all those years we talked about QBs who could take a team and put them on their back and will them to victory, and last season we finally got to see one in action. On our team for a change..

yep, it's just a different type of build other than building straight through the draft.
What LA did last year is what I would consider going all-in.

Difference then vs now is that they went all in with old vets in Philly

The chiefs at least have kept it to young guys

If they trade for Peterson, I would argue they have gone all-in. We're talking two high profile players for two high dollar contracts plus four draft picks, in addition to high dollars for Mattheau, medium dollars for Breeland and Okafor. In addition to the Brink's truck they backed up to bring in all the new defensive coaches. They're spending a ton to try to turn the defense around immediately. Bringing in Peterson would clearly establish this is not a patient, build it slow approach.

Some guy asked what was the first reported offer.

That Twitter guy's reply:

https://twitter.com/Chiefs365Com/sta...914750470?s=19

He also said not long ago that the Cards are not realistic and think the Chiefs are desperate.

I have come to believe that Peterson to the Chiefs is not going to happen. Veach will just have to go with his plan B.

They are crazy if they think the Chiefs will give a 1st & 2nd in '20 and a 3rd in '21 for a CB who is almost 30. Nobody is that dumb.

I mean I'm thinking that's their starting offer but they know they wouldn't get that much. Still, if it's true, it does show that they think he's worth a king's ransom.

The guy wanted to be traded at the trade deadline and it didn't happen.

The draft just passed, the rumors were that he was unhappy and possibly be traded and it did not happen again.

I'm just not sure he will get traded but then you have to see if he will persist in his discontent.

The longer he holds out the more reasonable they will become.

Keep holding out PP

BINGO. Honey Badger, Frank Clark, Mahomes... all mid-20s baybay

There’s that and the fact that we have Mahomes instead of ****ing Vick.

that's right, Veach is picking up premium players who have a lot left in the tank and who are heading to their contract extensions. That is a great way to pick up free agents and trades.

As to those Cardinal demands mentioned above? No way in hell.

Nnamdi Asomugha is a cautionary tale of why this team shouldn't give the farm for Patrick Peterson.

That guy just like Peterson was a multiple probowler and all-pro, he signed with the Eagles in at 30 years old and his play just fell off a cliff.

That's just the reality of CBs approaching 30 years old.

I'd love PP for the right price but no to a 1st round pick.

I'd give our first next year but not a penny more. That first offer is a lot more than we gave for a younger Clark. They are on drugs.

And all I said is that this smells like the "super" team Reid put together. It may not be an apples to apples situation but let's maybe slow the roll here and reduce the asking price for PP.

CBS sports online website article: Patrick Peterson to Chiefs "MAKES SENSE"


Other things that "MAKE SENSE":

Not kicking white girls in hotel hallways
Not breaking 3 yr old arms
Not lining up offsides
Not throwing money at Frank Clark
Not throwing money at Sammy 6 Game Watkins
Cutting Bob Sutton in 2018
Covering Gronk in the AGCCG
Not throwing money at Matt Cassell
Not drafting Breeland The Slug Speaks


TITC---This Is The Chiefs

How long you been a Chiefs fan?..Logic and Reasoning are the enemy of the organization

people are hype right now that Fuller, Ward, Breeland is some savior core based on "they gotta be better than last year." But when its week 12 and they are getting roasted people will turn on them and wish they had Peterson for the stretch run.

FYP

He has also shown great patience at times. He had Watkins on his radar for over a year for example. If Veach really does want PP here he will wait until the price is right. If this does not happen before the season I still would not be surprised if PP is traded at the deadline which could be a great pick up for the stretch run and playoffs!

Petersen is 26? 4 years is a huge difference in football.

Edit:28

im in on rhodes. one down year, clearly a crowded cb room in min.

And a more motivated trading partner in the Vikings with their cap issues. :)