<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Also of note, the Chiefs are somewhat optimistic that Breeland Speaks might return late this season if his rehab goes well. The recovery timetable for Speaks, I&#39;m told, could be around 3 months.</p>&mdash; Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/1166027553901076483?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 26, 2019</a></blockquote>
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IR here...

Pussy

It's not that they're bad. It's that we don't know what they are. Granted you won't know until you find out, but neither have ever taken an NFL regular season snap.

This probably isn't the year to have to find out.

You wouldn't have any 1st or 2nd rounders either. I could see you inadvertently ending up with a 3rd rounder here and there.

You'd also never have any cap space and your team's average age would be 33.

In terms of being a backup, Moore doesn’t really suck that bad at all. This has much more to do with experience than anything.

Speaks reminds me of Dan "Couch Potato" Williams and Ryan "Donut Boy" Sims from years past. He doesn't seem too committed to being all he can be physically. Looks like six months of Golden Corral for his fat ass.

Oh well. Roll with Clark, Okafor, Ogbah, and Kpassagnon.

Wonder why the Chiefs wouldn't take a flyer on Kaepernick? If he demands to be a starter, nobody's gonna sign him. Andy Reid revived Michael Vick's career in Philly. Seems like Kaepernick would be a good fit with this offense. Too much political baggage?

Wow.

Horrible idea

PUP is 6 weeks to start season.

Maybe they do that and leave him inactive for the last 4-6 weeks of his recovery.

Uh.... Yes?

LMAO, UH YEAH! Also waaaaaaaaaaay too much $$.

Yes.

I think Kaepernick is more interested in being an "activist" rather than playing football.

If you had a partial meniscectomy, you might be able to play sports in about 4 to 6 weeks. If you had meniscus repair, it may be 3 to 6 months before you can play sports. This care sheet gives you a general idea about how long it will take for you to recover. But each person recovers at a different pace

Looks like he might have ripped the entire ****ing meniscus. Like I said I was sprinting after 3 weeks. I never made cuts though, as I’m not an athlete and didn’t want to **** it up again.

Speaks is injured....my favorite player....how will we ever recover.

I get it, it is probably best to get a veteran QB behind Mahomes just in case because the other 2 guys probably aren't up to it.

That's no big deal. Speaks never makes cuts either. Just kind of stops then starts up again.

Deep DL already paying dividends

Heh. I guess I'm finally getting what I wanted in 2018:

https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost...55&postcount=9

I remember Moore playing for the Dolphins. He wasn't very good. Well, Henne came from the Dolphins too, so maybe it's just replacing one mediocre QB with another. Wonder if SF would consider a trade for their guy who backed up Jimmy G when we hurt him last year? We could send them Speaks and Carlos Hyde! Maybe we could get Eli from the Giants since he's on the outs there anyway.... Oh well, looks like Moore is the guy. Better get his nose in a playbook asap. We get the Raiders and Vontaze Burfict in week two. I think the Raiders got him specifically to try to kill Mahomie.

He got hurt in a game. I don't think he's eligible for the PUP.

I think you get 2 more weeks to make a decision so they might try that.

Speaks will gain at least 40 lbs during his recovery.

If he needs any repair to the MCL that is basically a year ender...

This is the Patrick Mahomes nightmare scenario.

He will stand in for so long to try to make a play that him taking this kind of hit just terrifies me.

In O.City parlance, I'm concerned that what makes Patrick Mahomes burn so bright may make him burn for not as long...

Please don't let this be a trend for us this year. :grovel::grovel:

It's definitely a worry.

The hope is that he's like Russell Wilson in that he just has an innate sense for when to get down, slide a little one way or another etc and not get squared up.

I posted it in the Luck thread, but you just can't take hits in the NFL and survive. Guys are too big and unreal athletes. Guys like Luck and Cam, who are both built like brick shithouses, are just breaking down.

Just get on the ground. Those times back in Mannings career where he would just give up in the pocket and lay down, people used to get pissed, I understand it. I hope Mahomes does it.

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I hope this injury doesn't cause Speaks to lose his elite burst. LMAO

Stop bagging on Speaks. Don't freak out people.

Throw him on the PUP and bring him back for the second half. It could be helpful.

And for the love of god, don't freak out about Henne, put I'm on the IL and go with Schumer. We will be fine. I'm not trading for a BU QB, **** that

Speaks sucks

LMAO

He will get plenty of time to hone his true talent of destroying buffets with this downtime.

Damn George , I belive that’s the dumbest thing you have ever posted. I enjoy reading your posts other than the political ones

Dudes best highlight play was falling down on a fumble in college.

What in the **** were the Chiefs thinking when they drafted this guy?

Ok they can't go on PUP, they practiced, it's IR or on the roster but inactive.

Considering how not valuable they are likely considered it's gonna be IR.

So now we're gonna open the year with an IR list that probably looks like this.

Henne
Speaks
Kemp
Lovett
Dieter
Reaser

And it's questionable if Yelder goes there.

Those of you talking shit on Speaks better watch out. When he comes back and makes 1 tackle for a loss, staylor is gonna let you know about it. You've been warned.

Let’s just start with 1 tackle and go from there.

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Moore is the guy I was hoping they would sign in 2013 to be a bridge quarterback to Geno Smith. Oooo the memories.

I’m kinda surprised people are this shocked about Speaks and his injury timetable. I figured that was a given.

I love when all the fat ****s on here get indignant about a player’s weight.


Good news for Tanoh.

on the bright side injuries allow us to stash some young developing talent a little easier...

I'm bummed about Speaks, but the rest of it doesn't really move the needle with me.

Henne will get an injury settlement for the estimated amount of games he would be healthy for after rehab.

Welp still over reaction planet.
Speaks doesn't suck. Not every player drafted is going to be a superstar HOF player.
Ogbah probably makes the roster now as a DE and allows them to keep both X. Williams and J Hamilton.
Henne meh whatever. We aren't going to win anything with him or Moore or Shurmur or Litton.

He could be usually vet players just go on IR.

Counterpoint: Speaks does in fact suck.

We can only have 2 with the designation to return.

Just because I don’t write players off before year 2 it doesn’t mean I’m a fan. ****ing moron.

Speaks is good rotational depth.
Not his fault where he was drafted.

Reaser's on a 1-yr deal with no chance to return this season; no reason to IR him at all. Dieter is also on a 1-yr deal with little/no value to this team right now and extremely long odds to be picked up by anyone.

You keep Reaser and Dieter on the IR, you're burning $1.15 million or so in cap space to do it - why? Just cut both of them. You should probably consider cutting Henne as well; you could save $1.5 million of his base salary doing that.

Kemp and Lovett have genuine 'stash' value so they're worth the headache, but people forget that if you IR a dude you gotta pay him like an NFL player. Cut some of that dead weight.

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Only 2 of them can. You don't have to 'pre-designate' who those 2 are, though.

The only caveat is that you have to have them on the 53 for day 1 of the season. So anyone that's put on the IR before the season starts cannot return (likely to happen with Kemp if it hasn't already). But if a player is injured, kept on the roster and then IR'd after the 53 man cut-down, they can be one of your 2 players that returns.

Just another reason why putting the IR tag on Dieter is useless. You don't want to clear a 53 man spot for the guy and if you don't at cut-down deadline, he can't come back anyway. Just cut him loose.

You're way too easy to troll LMAO

You should write off Breeland Speaks.

He sucks.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Full details on the injuries to Speaks and Henne, per <a href="https://twitter.com/proatc?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@proatc</a>: <a href="https://t.co/oIhQZLIydm">pic.twitter.com/oIhQZLIydm</a></p>&mdash; TOM MARTIN (@TomKCTV5) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomKCTV5/status/1166041266964107265?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 26, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Forgive me if I’m not going to take the guys word for it who swore Jones and Hunt wouldn’t be good :shrug:

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The only silver lining should be that I don't have to watch Speaks every snap praying he shows some good reason to have traded up for him.

BTW, this is why you have depth. If there is one player in one position group that we could stand to lose for a chunk of time, it's Speaks on the DL. He was less of a DE and more of a DT at this point, and I'd rather role with Jones, Nnadi, Saunders, and KPass rotating in the middle.

Oh believe me I know you’re trolling. That’s all you do on here. You’ve never once provided any kind of insight or an interesting take.

I’m pretty sure you’re a Billay mult.

Breeland Speaks sucks.

And it's cute how badly you have to overplay your hand on both Hunt AND Jones to get even an inkling of a win there.

You know I said Jones was a mid-2nd round pick (hardly said he 'wouldn't be good'; said he was very talented with motor and pad level issues) and I had Hunt at/near 1,000 All-Purpose yards as a rookie but said I like Kamara better and would've taken him.

So even your Hunt 'win' is a loss.

In closing -- Breeland Speaks sucks.

Wait dieter hurt what happened?

Had a back injury early.

He actually might be PUP eligible; not sure he ever practiced. I just don't see the point.

LMAO

You’re so full of shit. First you claimed you just didn’t like the Jones pick because we should’ve taken him in the 1st (5th year option), then when I quoted your post from Terez’s 1st round mock claiming Jones was an “awful” choice, you were nowhere to be found. Now your story has changed again.

And you didn’t like the Hunt pick AT ALL. You said he was slow and you thought he was a dime a dozen RB.

I’m just busting your balls but your inability to own it makes me have to keep bringing it up.

Can someone revisit the rules on placing players on IR before the season starts and how many can be brought back.

The player that does that to Patrick Mahomes is the player that leaves the stadium in a body bag. Clark Hunt will call up TRUMP and order a drone strike on said player. They'll be picking up the pieces for days.

If it keeps Mahomes happy, make it happen.

I had a three quarter tear on the upper I wasn't out of rehab in a month - but I did go back to work in 5 days although it was on crutches

Kamara wasn't available when the Chiefs picked Hunt.

Speaks was taken in the 2nd round after trading up. He's contributed nothing so far and likely won't contribute at all in year 2 either. This team has a problem with taking extremely raw DL in the 2nd or 3rd who aren't ready to contribute. At that point they end up having maybe a year or 2 of production, if any at all, before you have to pay them a veteran contract or cut bait.

Saunders is less of a concern because he was taken lower than Speaks and Kpass, but he still looks to be in the same category of player that likely won't contribute in their first year. I see a direct correlation between our subpar defense and our failed draft picks on defense the past 2-3 years.

But, back to the original point, Breeland Speaks ****ing sucks.

No but we took Kpass over him...think about that.

I'm gonna strive to be more like you.

If plays for Chiefs = future Hall of Famer

If plays for someone else = sucks

He’s talking about our 2nd rounder. KPass was the choice. And he’s 100% right. That’s who most of us wanted at that spot.

But in typical DJ draft day fashion, he didn’t get the Christmas gift he wanted, so he bitched and moaned about the Hunt pick.

The worst part about Speaks is he could be good. His 3 cone and 40 time at the combine was great for an interior rusher. He worked hard in college, never quit on plays.

I fear that Speaks got his first major paycheck and got lazy. Him showing up out of shape and admitting to being a lazy prick was the end for me.

That guy needed to be doing what Chris Jones did, but nope.

Now I KNOW you’re Billay. That’s his dumb ass narrative.

We got KPass AND Hunt with those picks. Kamara is great, but so is Hunt.

Well, he was right, today if you could trade Hunt and Kpass together for Kamara you would.

Who cares about our backup QB? If Mahomes goes down for longer than a couple of games, so does our Super Bowl dreams.

Yea and he's also not here because he's a moron, Kpass to this point is a Jag and Hunt is no longer here which means we ****ed up.

Well yea, but it wasn’t about Hunt’s character, which wasn’t a concern at the time. It was about his talent/value.