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MIAdragon 02-20-2020 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 14804968)
Is Pearl Jam legit grunge?

Wut

Bugeater 02-20-2020 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by crazycoffey (Post 14805591)
Don’t like Pearl Jam. Or sound garden. Nirvana was awesome. So is foo fighters. And I like Alice In Chains. Oh. Btw, I am the deciding factor on Grunge.

Ok, who is and isn't grunge?

Bugeater 02-20-2020 03:46 PM

Stone Temple Pilots?

KurtCobain 02-20-2020 04:25 PM

As Chiefsplanet's very own version of Kurt Cobain I would like to deem that Nirvana, STP and Soundgarden are cool. **** the rest of the early nineties.

Oh, and although my counterpart wouldn't agree, nine inch nails had three good songs. Not grunge though.

ChiefRocka 02-20-2020 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 14804968)
Is Pearl Jam legit grunge?

They were. Gigaton is not.

Seeing them in Baltimore next month

TLO 02-20-2020 06:59 PM

Do people actually make alcohol in prison toilets?

On a side note - do you mind the prison questions? I don't want to bring up negative memories. I'm just genuinely curious about prison life.

Bugeater 02-20-2020 07:02 PM

I'm thinking all one needs to know about prison life is that it's best avoided. I could be wrong though. Maybe it's fun.

Spott 02-20-2020 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KurtCobain (Post 14805656)
As Chiefsplanet's very own version of Kurt Cobain I would like to deem that Nirvana, STP and Soundgarden are cool. **** the rest of the early nineties.

Oh, and although my counterpart wouldn't agree, nine inch nails had three good songs. Not grunge though.

Not even AIC?

Spott 02-20-2020 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 14805598)
Ok, who is and isn't grunge?

Green Day.

TLO 02-20-2020 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 14805962)
I'm thinking all one needs to know about prison life is that it's best avoided. I could be wrong though. Maybe it's fun.

I've watched a lot of documentaries on prison life. The guys spending 10-20 years behind bars seem to enjoy it. At least that's the front they put on when they're talking to the camera.

I've also seen guys who basically got locked up at age 13 or 14, got out when they were 18, re-offended and are back in for another 10-15 years. Being locked up is all they've ever really known.

PAChiefsGuy 02-20-2020 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 14805962)
I'm thinking all one needs to know about prison life is that it's best avoided. I could be wrong though. Maybe it's fun.

Yeah it's great. Good food. Lots of things to do and places to visit. Very safe and lots of good people to hang out with. Nice showers with cold water.

You should give it a shot sometime man. You don't know what you are missing.

CarlosCarson27 02-20-2020 07:27 PM

Prison is mostly a govt run excuse for free labor. Most people don't belong in prison for trivial offenses. Or the sentences are too long for what ever they did.

PAChiefsGuy 02-20-2020 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlosCarson88 (Post 14805992)
Prison is mostly a govt run excuse for free labor. Most people don't belong in prison for trivial offenses. Or the sentences are too long for what ever they did.

Mostly blacks and Hispanics getting the long sentences too.

KurtCobain 02-20-2020 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 14805970)
I've watched a lot of documentaries on prison life. The guys spending 10-20 years behind bars seem to enjoy it. At least that's the front they put on when they're talking to the camera.

I've also seen guys who basically got locked up at age 13 or 14, got out when they were 18, re-offended and are back in for another 10-15 years. Being locked up is all they've ever really known.

Most of those shows are bullshit. The people they interview are the people I hate most in prison, idiots who think they are cool because they're in prison or rats.

KurtCobain 02-20-2020 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlosCarson88 (Post 14805992)
Prison is mostly a govt run excuse for free labor. Most people don't belong in prison for trivial offenses. Or the sentences are too long for what ever they did.

I disagree with most of this post. Pretty uneducated to be honest.

KurtCobain 02-20-2020 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 14805958)
Do people actually make alcohol in prison toilets?

On a side note - do you mind the prison questions? I don't want to bring up negative memories. I'm just genuinely curious about prison life.

Maybe they do in some prisons, I've never seen it. I've seen it made in trash bags and butter containers stolen from the kitchen. Also peanut butter jars and other various bottle type things. Mostly trash bags though in my experience.

I don't mind the prison questions. I hate that place but I don't really mind talking about anything in life. I'm a pretty open dude, when I shut up and keep things in I start falling apart generally.


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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 14805962)
I'm thinking all one needs to know about prison life is that it's best avoided. I could be wrong though. Maybe it's fun.

It's not fun.

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Originally Posted by Spott (Post 14805967)
Not even AIC?

They might be considered grunge I don't know. And I guess they have like two good songs.

Bugeater 02-20-2020 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KurtCobain (Post 14806019)
It's not fun.

Yeah I've read the Google reviews on a few of them and most aren't very positive.

Bugeater 02-20-2020 08:00 PM

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This one doesn't sound too bad though

CarlosCarson27 02-20-2020 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KurtCobain (Post 14806011)
I disagree with most of this post. Pretty uneducated to be honest.

Fine. Youre one guy. You went to prison. Doesn't make you a critical authority about govts origins, inner workings and intent. Did people deserve longe sentence over weed or other drugs? Of course not. Govt just takes advantage of how stupid and compliant the lazy citizens are to authority. Most of what the legal system is allowed to do is completely unnecessary. But the wealthy need to exercise authority to keep the common man at bay.


Not one time in my life have police ever been helpful or necessary. And they are obviously useless in bad neighborhoods. they are just tax collectors with guns. They beat up people for verbally disagreeing with them. Judges tell you, you are in contempt for asking questions. The rule of law is one big elitist scam.

Holladay 02-20-2020 08:46 PM

I have a close friend who went to prison for child rape. He didn't and took the "fall" for some "friends" of his at the time. He was 18. He wasn't a model citizen in his youth and probably would have ended up in jail at some point. But not for 15 years.

His points are, you get accustomed to it. That becomes normal life. You can do well, per se (still in jail) and understand the system and work it to your advantage. You get comfortable like Brooks.

When he got out, he really was tempted to repeat to go back. What kept him clean was the lifers inside that have no chance at a real life anymore. He now had a chance at a real life and if he screwed up and landed back in, they would think "what a piss ant, you had another chance but blew it".

He didn't want to go back and face it.

He has done well. He has a tough row to hoe but he is appreciative and works many jobs to make ends meet with his family.

He got screwed in life with one decision at 18...for his "friends".

Ubeja Vontell 02-20-2020 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlosCarson88 (Post 14805992)
Prison is mostly a govt run excuse for free labor. Most people don't belong in prison for trivial offenses. Or the sentences are too long for what ever they did.


Dude, you are so wrong it's comical.

CarlosCarson27 02-20-2020 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ubeja Vontell (Post 14806126)
Dude, you are so wrong it's comical.

You also have no understanding about govts intentions to/for controlling the populous. You simply think there's 2 sides to a debate and of course govt would never lie to you, right?

You worship the State.

CarlosCarson27 02-20-2020 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Holladay (Post 14806114)
I have a close friend who went to prison for child rape. He didn't and took the "fall" for some "friends" of his at the time. He was 18. He wasn't a model citizen in his youth and probably would have ended up in jail at some point. But not for 15 years.

His points are, you get accustomed to it. That becomes normal life. You can do well, per se (still in jail) and understand the system and work it to your advantage. You get comfortable like Brooks.

When he got out, he really was tempted to repeat to go back. What kept him clean was the lifers inside that have no chance at a real life anymore. He now had a chance at a real life and if he screwed up and landed back in, they would think "what a piss ant, you had another chance but blew it".

He didn't want to go back and face it.

He has done well. He has a tough row to hoe but he is appreciative and works many jobs to make ends meet with his family.

He got screwed in life with one decision at 18...for his "friends".

And now he's a free range slave. A tax slave.

Ubeja Vontell 02-20-2020 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlosCarson88 (Post 14806138)
You also have no understanding about govts intentions to/for controlling the populous. You simply think there's 2 sides to a debate and of course govt would never lie to you, right?

You worship the State.

Dude, your level of ...Duh!....belongs in prison, no clue at all, none!

KurtCobain 02-20-2020 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlosCarson88 (Post 14806079)
Fine. Youre one guy. You went to prison. Doesn't make you a critical authority about govts origins, inner workings and intent. Did people deserve longe sentence over weed or other drugs? Of course not. Govt just takes advantage of how stupid and compliant the lazy citizens are to authority. Most of what the legal system is allowed to do is completely unnecessary. But the wealthy need to exercise authority to keep the common man at bay.


Not one time in my life have police ever been helpful or necessary. And they are obviously useless in bad neighborhoods. they are just tax collectors with guns. They beat up people for verbally disagreeing with them. Judges tell you, you are in contempt for asking questions. The rule of law is one big elitist scam.

You're one guy who has never been helped by the police. I know a lot of people that have been helped by the police. In bad neighborhoods. You're right about some of the drug sentencing. There seems to be quite a few corrupt laws designed to keep a certain sect of the population down.

You're wrong about the free labor thing. At least in Missouri and Kansas State penitentiaries.

KurtCobain 02-20-2020 09:27 PM

In fact in the Missouri department of corrections, three out of the five prisons I've been to don't even make you get a job, in fact they're so crowded it's hard to get a job.

rabblerouser 02-20-2020 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by crazycoffey (Post 14805591)
Don’t like Pearl Jam. Or sound garden. Nirvana was awesome. So is foo fighters. And I like Alice In Chains. Oh. Btw, I am the deciding factor on Grunge.

Soundgarden>>>>>>>>>>>>Foo Fighters.

Bugeater 02-20-2020 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Holladay (Post 14806114)
I have a close friend who went to prison for child rape. He didn't and took the "fall" for some "friends" of his at the time. He was 18. He wasn't a model citizen in his youth and probably would have ended up in jail at some point. But not for 15 years.

His points are, you get accustomed to it. That becomes normal life. You can do well, per se (still in jail) and understand the system and work it to your advantage. You get comfortable like Brooks.

When he got out, he really was tempted to repeat to go back. What kept him clean was the lifers inside that have no chance at a real life anymore. He now had a chance at a real life and if he screwed up and landed back in, they would think "what a piss ant, you had another chance but blew it".

He didn't want to go back and face it.

He has done well. He has a tough row to hoe but he is appreciative and works many jobs to make ends meet with his family.

He got screwed in life with one decision at 18...for his "friends".

Bullshit. No one willingly does 15 years for something they didn't do.

rabblerouser 02-20-2020 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 14805599)
Stone Temple Pilots?

Much more expansive than the "grunge" label. Amazing melodies, like if you took the Beatles and Bowie and filtered them through Jim Morrison and The Velvet Underground and added a dash of math rock with a pinch of art-noise punk.

KurtCobain 02-20-2020 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 14806155)
Bullshit. No one willingly does 15 years for something they didn't do.

Agreed. Also, he would have had a terrible time in prison.

LiveSteam 02-21-2020 04:02 AM

1st thing you learn.
Everyone is innocent in jail.

eDave 02-21-2020 04:07 AM

One of my favorite peeps here, which isn't saying much.

Nickhead 02-21-2020 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 14532751)
Did you have a job in prison? If so, what was it? And how do you get into specific jobs? Are they matching people up by aptitude or interest, or is it random?

he held the paper plate :D

eDave 02-21-2020 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CarlosCarson88 (Post 14806079)
Fine. Youre one guy. You went to prison. Doesn't make you a critical authority about govts origins, inner workings and intent. Did people deserve longe sentence over weed or other drugs? Of course not. Govt just takes advantage of how stupid and compliant the lazy citizens are to authority. Most of what the legal system is allowed to do is completely unnecessary. But the wealthy need to exercise authority to keep the common man at bay.


Not one time in my life have police ever been helpful or necessary. And they are obviously useless in bad neighborhoods. they are just tax collectors with guns. They beat up people for verbally disagreeing with them. Judges tell you, you are in contempt for asking questions. The rule of law is one big elitist scam.

Silly. The police are very helpful to you. Every day.

CarlosCarson27 02-21-2020 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 14806378)
Silly. The police are very helpful to you. Every day.

where,how,? I just described their purpose. Theyre basically useless. on the tv shows, they never save the day. Just run around harassing the poor and homeless.
pull me over and say i'll get a ticket if I dont fix a tail light.
one cop pulled me over late one night, simply to train a rookie. I didnt do shit but now i'm nervous.
He pulled me over and shined the light in my eyes to see if i'm drunk. I had 2 or 3 beers that night and the last one had been about an hour and a half before.
I crossed an intersection on a green traffic light and all the sudden theres a cop car pulling me over. The rookie looks in my eyes,with light. eventually asks me to get out of the car.
I said " I am a little nervous here" so he understands if i act clumsy,. I hear behind me.. "thats ok, we're nice guys" or something to that effect. I turn around and its an older cop. I realize then that he's training this guy.
they didnt give a full drunk test. i dont even remember what happened but it was short lived and unnecessary . They let me go.. but the fact is, it was illegal.
There was no godam reason to pull me over. They just strong handed their false authority.

One other time, but its too lengthy for now.

Bugeater 02-21-2020 07:46 AM

You seem nice

tmax63 02-21-2020 08:17 AM

Sorry all your encounters with cops have been bad but just like all professions about 90% are good and there's a few bad ones. Whether you think you deserved it or not they usually have a reason to **** with you. You do stupid shit and you get harassed. In a smaller town like where I grew up you screw up a few times and they recognize you/your car and you get harassed for being a screw-up. The thing is you most likely did stuff that hung a **** with me sign around your rear view mirror and then wonder why they did.

CarlosCarson27 02-21-2020 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tmax63 (Post 14806435)
Sorry all your encounters with cops have been bad but just like all professions about 90% are good and there's a few bad ones. Whether you think you deserved it or not they usually have a reason to **** with you. You do stupid shit and you get harassed. In a smaller town like where I grew up you screw up a few times and they recognize you/your car and you get harassed for being a screw-up. The thing is you most likely did stuff that hung a **** with me sign around your rear view mirror and then wonder why they did.

Excuses, excuses. Whether I think I deserved it? They had no business interrupting my life -period.
I was minding my own business and what they did was illegal.
People have been trained to bow to authority, even when it's wrong.
There's no 90% of anything. I'm a 40 something year old man in a dark red Saturn. There's no flipping way in hell that fit any description, of anything suspicious.
Cops are just dumb jocks with guns, who get off of on being bullies.
They told me nothing about "we have a report of this and such and you fit it.
They were bored and effing around and training a cop at my expense.
Are they all like this? No, but the police industry is based in/on and function through the dumb soldier cops.

Anyway, sorry. I realize the thread is about an incarceration interview. Sorry. Have a nice weekend :) carry on

KurtCobain 02-21-2020 05:59 PM

You seem sad.

LiveSteam 02-21-2020 07:50 PM

I am.
All I want in life is this Welsh Witch.
Unfortunately.. She doesn't want we.

KurtCobain 02-21-2020 08:52 PM

I feel ya, I have had a meaningful conversation with a woman in five years let alone anything more than that.

KurtCobain 02-21-2020 08:53 PM

Hey have I ever told you guys the story about the time I crapped my pants in prison?

LiveSteam 02-22-2020 02:21 AM

Nope.

Nickhead 02-22-2020 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by KurtCobain (Post 14807602)
Hey have I ever told you guys the story about the time I crapped my pants in prison?

the best way to avoid ass sex? end result? :D

Otter 02-22-2020 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by KurtCobain (Post 14807602)
Hey have I ever told you guys the story about the time I crapped my pants in prison?

Isn't pooping your prison kind of like someone dancing bad at a hall wedding? I mean someone is bound to break out the chicken dance.

Rasputin 02-22-2020 07:10 AM

I just want to say I'm proud to call KurtCobain my friend.


Made the Super Bowl Partay in Kansas City a real treat.

Otter 02-22-2020 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Rasputin (Post 14807839)
I just want to say I'm proud to call KurtCobain my friend.


Made the Super Bowl Partay in Kansas City a real treat.

Me too.

I'm glad you're doing better. I'm just from a ball busting background so don't take it personally.

Keep it up. You seem like a good guy who just messed up.

Rasputin 02-22-2020 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Otter (Post 14807843)
Me too.

I'm glad you're doing better. I'm just from a ball busting background so don't take it personally.

Keep it up. You seem like a good guy who just messed up.

Thanks. Lol but I don't remember you busting my balls ?


I think i remember though

rabblerouser 02-22-2020 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by KurtCobain (Post 14807602)
Hey have I ever told you guys the story about the time I crapped my pants in prison?

Finish the story, man!

KurtCobain 02-22-2020 07:59 AM

In 2018 one day I realized I hadn't pooped in two days and as a result, my stomach was pretty wrecked. I put in a medical request, but it was ignored. About five days later I still had not took a shit, and I was getting pretty sick. I was going through hot and cold flashes. We were watching the Chiefs Rams game in my cell and I couldn't even enjoy it because I had to wear all of my clothes plus my blanket and my cellmates blanket just to stay warm. A CO saw me and told me to fill out another medical request and he'd make sure it got to a nurse.

The next day I went to medical and saw the super hot young nurse. She said oh my God you look terrible, I told her I haven't shit in over a week and I think my body is mad about it. She brought me these two brown pills and some water. I asked her if this would help me poop and she giggled and said yes.

Three hours later I'm on the toilet, but no bueno. I'm sitting in a common area talking to somebody's telling them I don't think those pills worked when I stand up and try to fart. BOOM! My pants filled up with shit so fast, and it didn't stop there it was running onto the floor I take off down the hall to the toilet and there's just a streak of water poop behind me. Shit everywhere, guys, down both legs ruined my socks and my shoes. Thought it was pretty funny, so did everyone else, unfortunately, that story got told to new people a million times.

Rasputin 02-22-2020 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by KurtCobain (Post 14807862)
In 2018 one day I realized I hadn't pooped in two days and as a result, my stomach was pretty wrecked. I put in a medical request, but it was ignored. About five days later I still had not took a shit, and I was getting pretty sick. I was going through hot and cold flashes. We were watching the Chiefs Rams game in my cell and I couldn't even enjoy it because I had to wear all of my clothes plus my blanket and my cellmates blanket just to stay warm. A CO saw me and told me to fill out another medical request and he'd make sure it got to a nurse.

The next day I went to medical and saw the super hot young nurse. She said oh my God you look terrible, I told her I haven't shit in over a week and I think my body is mad about it. She brought me these two brown pills and some water. I asked her if this would help me poop and she giggled and said yes.

Three hours later I'm on the toilet, but no bueno. I'm sitting in a common area talking to somebody's telling them I don't think those pills worked when I stand up and try to fart. BOOM! My pants filled up with shit so fast, and it didn't stop there it was running onto the floor I take off down the hall to the toilet and there's just a streak of water poop behind me. Shit everywhere, guys, down both legs ruined my socks and my shoes. Thought it was pretty funny, so did everyone else, unfortunately, that story got told to new people a million times.


We have a patient on our unit that usually says off the wall shit and he complains a lot about not taking a shit. So yesterday morning wanted me to take a scalpel and cut open his rear end so he could shit. I told him that was out of my scope of practice and that he should put in a request to the doctor witch I quoted him "take a scalpel and cut my rear end so I can shit. I've had it done before and it works" And i turned that request in to the doctor. i love my job you cannot make this shit up.

KurtCobain 02-22-2020 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Rasputin (Post 14807867)
We have a patient on our unit that usually says off the wall shit and he complains a lot about not taking a shit. So yesterday morning wanted me to take a scalpel and cut open his rear end so he could shit. I told him that was out of my scope of practice and that he should put in a request to the doctor witch I quoted him "take a scalpel and cut my rear end so I can shit. I've had it done before and it works" And i turned that request in to the doctor. i love my job you cannot make this shit up.

That's gnarly.

Back when I used to use opioids a lot my shit stop I'd have to dig it out of my own ass.


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