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DaNewGuy 11-30-2019 04:42 AM

Josh allen moves with the grace of when everyone pretends to guard the special needs kid and he hits a sloppy layup ....Patty moves like a graceful figure skater which is nirvana inducing...

ThyKingdomCome15 11-30-2019 05:48 AM

I find this thread to be offensive.

ThyKingdomCome15 11-30-2019 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 14623835)
Me, that’s who... fits him perfectly IMO

Makes me think of Johnny Manzel. Pass.

DaFace 01-04-2020 06:27 PM

:hmmm:

RealSNR 01-04-2020 06:31 PM

Josh Allen is a ****ing idiot.

He's almost as stupid as Deberg.

PattyFlakes 01-04-2020 06:46 PM

Creating this thread should be ban-worthy. This is just awful, even by DeBerg standards.

rabblerouser 01-04-2020 06:48 PM

Shitting yourself with the stomach flu diarrhea, or a Deberg thread?

George Liquor 01-04-2020 07:05 PM

This was a real thread?

loochy 01-04-2020 07:14 PM

Allen is football reeruned.

King_Chief_Fan 01-04-2020 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 14623127)
We are starting to see some people saying Josh Allen is/will be better than Patrick Mahomes. I think it’s ridiculous, but there are people that feel that way. I was wondering if anyone here would choose Josh over Mahomes. So the choice is simple: who would you rather have as QB for the next 12 years? Allen Or Mahomes?

Haven't seen or heard of this nonsense
I refuse to answer dumb questions

DRM08 01-04-2020 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 14623722)
Wouldn’t trade Money for anyone, period

But were I a Bills fan I’d be feeling pretty damn good about my future right now... his progression from last year is unmistakeable

A linebacker sized guy with a legit cannon, who can not only scramble well but actually take off and get big chunk plays? That’s nothing to shit on, good for Buffalo they deserve it

I don't think they are feeling very good about his progression right now.

Marcellus 01-04-2020 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 14695544)
Allen Deberg is football reeruned.

FYP

TEX 01-04-2020 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 14695861)
I don't think they are feeling very good about his progression right now.

Exactly. Allen came unraveled at crunch time like nobody's business. What he showed may just be ingrained in his DNA. He was terrible on the simple stuff. If anything his performance, when mattered most, raised questions.

BWillie 01-04-2020 08:47 PM

You guys are being a little hard on Deberg. At no point did Deberg ever say that Mahomes wasn't better than Allen.

Chief Roundup 01-04-2020 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 14696226)
You guys are being a little hard on Deberg. At no point did Deberg ever say that Mahomes wasn't better than Allen.

Nah not really. After 15 years his shtick has gotten old. His peers are letting him now it is time to change.

Flying High D 01-05-2020 09:29 AM

So glad the Bills have Allen.

stevieray 01-05-2020 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 14695996)
Exactly. Allen came unraveled at crunch time like nobody's business. What he showed may just be ingrained in his DNA. He was terrible on the simple stuff. If anything his performance, when mattered most, raised questions.

My wife said he looked terrified.

TwistedChief 01-05-2020 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 14696226)
You guys are being a little hard on Deberg. At no point did Deberg ever say that Mahomes wasn't better than Allen.

No. The problem here is that NO ONE was comparing Allen and Mahomes when this post was made.

chiefzilla1501 01-05-2020 09:41 AM

Meh, I’d be ok with him if we never had a shot at mahomes. He’s not a generational talent but I could see him one day Flacco-ing his way to a super bowl as a game manager if all the chips bounce right and you give him a great supporting cast . He has plenty of comeback wins to his name. I love our chances with mahomes but an Allen gives a team an outside shot.

Watson, on the other hand, flat out didn’t look great yesterday.

Chiefs Pantalones 01-05-2020 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 14623127)
We are starting to see some people saying Josh Allen is/will be better than Patrick Mahomes. I think it’s ridiculous, but there are people that feel that way. I was wondering if anyone here would choose Josh over Mahomes. So the choice is simple: who would you rather have as QB for the next 12 years? Allen Or Mahomes?

Dumb threads like this is why I don’t post much anymore lol.

redfan 01-05-2020 10:01 AM

This is an actual thread on CP.

ChiTown 01-05-2020 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14695219)
Shitting yourself with the stomach flu diarrhea, or a Deberg thread?

Eating an AIDS sammich or a Deberg Thread?

Gimme the sammich....

Prison Bitch 01-05-2020 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 14623200)
No we aren’t. Post your evidence or delete thread.

So did de berg ever tell us who exactly was saying this?


Or did he lie?

FlintHillsChiefs 01-05-2020 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 14623127)
We are starting to see some people saying Josh Allen is/will be better than Patrick Mahomes. I think it’s ridiculous, but there are people that feel that way. I was wondering if anyone here would choose Josh over Mahomes. So the choice is simple: who would you rather have as QB for the next 12 years? Allen Or Mahomes?

Get a load of this idiot

TEX 01-05-2020 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 14697766)
Meh, I’d be ok with him if we never had a shot at mahomes. He’s not a generational talent but I could see him one day Flacco-ing his way to a super bowl as a game manager if all the chips bounce right and you give him a great supporting cast . He has plenty of comeback wins to his name. I love our chances with mahomes but an Allen gives a team an outside shot.

Watson, on the other hand, flat out didn’t look great yesterday.

Maybe so but Allen is nothing special. I dont even think he's a game manager b/c he's not accuarate. Yesterday, he may have set some sort of a record for coming unglued down the stretch of an NFL playoff game.

Even though Watson didnt look all that great for most of the game, you saw the difference in the two QB's. Once HOU got tired of trying to give the game away, and once it was painfully obvious that Josh Allen was not capable of accepting any gifts to win the game, a play had to be made to finally win the damn thing, and Watson made it. The moment was clearly too big for Josh Allen yesterday. He looked terrified before he even took the field on every drive down the stretch. No way I want a QB like that for anything.

DRM08 01-05-2020 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 14697977)
Maybe so but Allen is nothing special. I dont even think he's a game manager b/c he's not accuarate. Yesterday, he may have set some sort of a record for coming unglued down the stretch of an NFL playoff game.
You saw the difference in the two QB's. Once HOU got tired of trying to give the game away, and once it was painfully obvious that Josh Allen was not capable of accepting any gifts to win the game, a play had to be made to finally win the damn thing, and Watson made it. The moment was clearly too big for Josh Allen yesterday. He looked terrified before he even took the field on every drive down the stretch. No way I want a QB like that for anything.

To be fair, it was his first playoff game. But you'd much rather see the guy start off shaky and finish strong than the other way around. He really fell apart down the stretch. UGLY stuff.

chiefzilla1501 01-05-2020 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 14697977)
Maybe so but Allen is nothing special. I dont even think he's a game manager b/c he's not accuarate. Yesterday, he may have set some sort of a record for coming unglued down the stretch of an NFL playoff game.

Even though Watson didnt look all that great for most of the game, you saw the difference in the two QB's. Once HOU got tired of trying to give the game away, and once it was painfully obvious that Josh Allen was not capable of accepting any gifts to win the game, a play had to be made to finally win the damn thing, and Watson made it. The moment was clearly too big for Josh Allen yesterday. He looked terrified before he even took the field on every drive down the stretch. No way I want a QB like that for anything.

Yeah he looked really bad in the clutch yesterday. Just saying he’s looked better in the clutch in regular season games. He might be a much more mobile version of Flacco. Flacco wasn’t terribly accurate either. And his first playoff performances were beyond terrible. But for one playoff run he out together a really solid performance and had the right pieces around him. Unlike an Alex Smith, Allen is at least somewhat aggressive for a game manager.

The bills are in trouble if he turns out to be a choker with playoff pressure. But if he doesnt I don’t think they’re regretting who they have. Of course they’d rather have mahomes or Rodgers but not every team is blessed with a generational talent.

Chiefshrink 01-05-2020 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 14698147)
Yeah he looked really bad in the clutch yesterday. Just saying he’s looked better in the clutch in regular season games. He might be a much more mobile version of Flacco. Flacco wasn’t terribly accurate either. And his first playoff performances were beyond terrible. But for one playoff run he out together a really solid performance and had the right pieces around him. Unlike an Alex Smith, Allen is at least somewhat aggressive for a game manager.

The bills are in trouble if he turns out to be a choker with playoff pressure. But if he doesnt I don’t think they’re regretting who they have. Of course they’d rather have mahomes or Rodgers but not every team is blessed with a generational talent.

He's actually the modern day Bobby Douglas that can throw.:D

NJChiefsFan 01-05-2020 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 14696226)
You guys are being a little hard on Deberg. At no point did Deberg ever say that Mahomes wasn't better than Allen.

Yes but a rational person knows it's not worth a thread to post what some random person said. Cause there is NO way a number of people said it where it warrants actually asking the community if they think these"people" are crazy.

Chiefshrink 01-05-2020 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 14697977)
Maybe so but Allen is nothing special. I dont even think he's a game manager b/c he's not accuarate. Yesterday, he may have set some sort of a record for coming unglued down the stretch of an NFL playoff game.

Even though Watson didnt look all that great for most of the game, you saw the difference in the two QB's. Once HOU got tired of trying to give the game away, and once it was painfully obvious that Josh Allen was not capable of accepting any gifts to win the game, a play had to be made to finally win the damn thing, and Watson made it. The moment was clearly too big for Josh Allen yesterday. He looked terrified before he even took the field on every drive down the stretch. No way I want a QB like that for anything.

:clap:

Bills defense did far enough to win that game for sure.:thumb:

JakeF 01-05-2020 09:45 PM

Allen still has a lot to learn. He has to be able to calm down and focus in crunch time. He's still showing some talent though. He has a chance to be a quality starter in the NFL for a long time.

TLO 01-16-2020 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14700486)
Allen still has a lot to learn. He has to be able to calm down and focus in crunch time. He's still showing some talent though. He has a chance to be a quality starter in the NFL for a long time.

He's garbage

notorious 01-16-2020 12:09 PM

Jesus Christ. How many clogged turd threads are going to float up?

DRM08 01-16-2020 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 14727485)
He's garbage

Compared to Mahomes, I agree. Compared to a lot of other QBs in the NFL? Josh is pretty solid.

KChiefs1 01-16-2020 12:13 PM

Watching the WC game vs the Texans is proof enough.

DRM08 10-05-2020 12:01 PM

Josh is off to a very strong start this year, thanks in part to a schedule featuring 3 of the worst defenses in the league for the first 4 weeks. Dan Orlovsky bringing some high heat. I hope this kind of comparison motivates Mahomes, as it did for the Baltimore game.

MVP
@BuffaloBills


First 4 games:

2020 Josh Allen
4-0 W-L
1,409 yards
15 touchdowns
71% Comp pct
9.0 Yds per att

2018 Patrick Mahomes
4-0 W-L
1,253 yards
15 touchdowns
65% Comp pct
8.7 Yds per att

UChieffyBugger 10-05-2020 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 15218165)
Josh is off to a very strong start this year, thanks in part to a schedule featuring 3 of the worst defenses in the league for the first 4 weeks. Dan Orlovsky bringing some high heat. I hope this kind of comparison motivates Mahomes, as it did for the Baltimore game.

MVP
@BuffaloBills


First 4 games:

2020 Josh Allen
4-0 W-L
1,409 yards
15 touchdowns
71% Comp pct
9.0 Yds per att

2018 Patrick Mahomes
4-0 W-L
1,253 yards
15 touchdowns
65% Comp pct
8.7 Yds per att

Those Allen stats aren't right. He has 12 td's for 1326 yards and one int thus far.

DRM08 10-05-2020 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 15218268)
Those Allen stats aren't right. He has 12 td's for 1326 yards and one int thus far.

Wow, I don't know where Orlovsky pulled those stats.

Mecca 10-05-2020 12:50 PM

I'm assuming they're counting his rushing numbers in there.

smithandrew051 10-05-2020 12:50 PM

I’m guessing he added rushing stats for total yards and touchdowns.

UChieffyBugger 10-05-2020 12:55 PM

If he's counting rushing stats then why is he comparing the stats to Pat's 2018 season when Pat's stats didn't include rushing? Better off comparing Allen's stats to Lamar's from last year.

tatorhog 10-05-2020 12:56 PM

Reading another DeBerg thread or having a vasectomy performed sans anesthesia using only blunt tools?

Mama Hip Rockets 10-05-2020 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 15218309)
If he's counting rushing stats then why is he comparing the stats to Pat's 2018 season when Pat's stats didn't include rushing? Better off comparing Allen's stats to Lamar's from last year.

Those included rushing stats for Mahomes as well. He had 1200 pass yards and 53 yards, so 1253 yards total in those 4 games.

Buehler445 10-05-2020 01:27 PM

If Allen gets 5000/50. I will legit be impressed

Hammock Parties 10-07-2020 01:13 PM

We are in for a shootout.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I can&#39;t stop watching this throw <a href="https://t.co/gbPD3t0y0Q">pic.twitter.com/gbPD3t0y0Q</a></p>&mdash; Erik Turner (@ErikJTurner) <a href="https://twitter.com/ErikJTurner/status/1313268156178333696?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 6, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

MahomesMagic 10-07-2020 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15225365)
We are in for a shootout.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I can&#39;t stop watching this throw <a href="https://t.co/gbPD3t0y0Q">pic.twitter.com/gbPD3t0y0Q</a></p>&mdash; Erik Turner (@ErikJTurner) <a href="https://twitter.com/ErikJTurner/status/1313268156178333696?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 6, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Bills now get a bye and a free win and are now preparing for Chiefs. We'll be dead tired by the time we get them.

Take the under.

htismaqe 10-07-2020 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 15225530)
Bills now get a bye and a free win and are now preparing for Chiefs. We'll be dead tired by the time we get them.

Take the under.

This is just false.

Nobody has said the Titans are being forced to forfeit.

MahomesMagic 10-07-2020 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15225569)
This is just false.

Nobody has said the Titans are being forced to forfeit.

Sorry, on mobile.

If they do the forfeit.

htismaqe 10-07-2020 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 15225591)
Sorry, on mobile.

If they do the forfeit.

They've already said it's not really an option.

BoxWine_Stouffers_TubeSock 10-07-2020 02:48 PM

There will be no forteiting. This is Thunderdome.

Megatron96 10-07-2020 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15225365)
We are in for a shootout.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I can&#39;t stop watching this throw <a href="https://t.co/gbPD3t0y0Q">pic.twitter.com/gbPD3t0y0Q</a></p>&mdash; Erik Turner (@ErikJTurner) <a href="https://twitter.com/ErikJTurner/status/1313268156178333696?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 6, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That was a great throw and an even better catch. But it was not a very good decision. His receiver was not only doubled, but they technically had him completely covered. Probably should've been defensed, or even picked.

KChiefs1 10-07-2020 03:22 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BillsMafia?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BillsMafia</a>, if it was your decision and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> offered the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bills</a> a trade today: Patrick Mahomes for Josh Allen, Tremaine Edmunds and Tre&#39;Davious White - would you do it?</p>&mdash; Matt Parrino (@MattParrino) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattParrino/status/1313857430757965824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ToxSocks 10-07-2020 03:23 PM

He still makes some boneheaded plays in the pocket and takes some awful sacks.

He's also played in what, 1 big game?

I'm gonna say that he's not ready for a matchup with Mahomes and the Chiefs on primetime. The stage might be a little too big for him, until proven otherwise.

smithandrew051 10-07-2020 03:23 PM

Chiefs have a significantly better pass defense, better QB, better weapons, and a better coach. We should all be rooting for a shootout.

BoxWine_Stouffers_TubeSock 10-07-2020 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15225654)
That was a great throw and an even better catch. But it was not a very good decision. His receiver was not only doubled, but they technically had him completely covered. Probably should've been defensed, or even picked.

Mediocre at best. Pat would do that blindfolded, with his hands tied behind his back, and his dick wrapped around his leg. Allen is nothing special.

Hammock Parties 10-07-2020 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15225654)
That was a great throw and an even better catch. But it was not a very good decision. His receiver was not only doubled, but they technically had him completely covered. Probably should've been defensed, or even picked.

If Mahomes makes that throw everyone here is slobbing his knob as it being UNDEFENSIBLE!!! COVERAGE NO MATTER!!!!! MAHOMES IS GOD!!!!!!!!!!

That was a ****ing amazing throw - the ball came out so fast and went to a spot those guys weren't getting it.

I think Josh Allen gives us all we can handle in two weeks.

DRM08 10-07-2020 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15225659)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BillsMafia?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BillsMafia</a>, if it was your decision and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> offered the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bills</a> a trade today: Patrick Mahomes for Josh Allen, Tremaine Edmunds and Tre&#39;Davious White - would you do it?</p>&mdash; Matt Parrino (@MattParrino) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattParrino/status/1313857430757965824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

There are some pretty delusional Buffalo fans responding to that question. All it takes is a couple good games against some of the worst teams in the league and they think Allen is the greatest thing ever.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 10-07-2020 03:40 PM

Tried telling y’all Allen is for real. The only saving grace for us is that their defense is trash

Megatron96 10-07-2020 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 15225664)
Chiefs have a significantly better pass defense, better QB, better weapons, and a better coach. We should all be rooting for a shootout.

If our pass rush can get pressure on him, I expect Josh to throw several picks, or at least intercept-able balls. I doubt he suddenly became a great decision-maker in one off-season. Especially an off-season in which he had almost no OTAs/camp reps. He's likely just the beneficiary of acquiring a top-tier WR (Diggs), and his OC building the offense around that, plus the fact that the Bills have played three of the worst defenses (possibly 4) in the league to this point.

I mean, look at their opponents so far: Jets, Dolphins, Rams, and Raiders. Only one of those teams has a pass rush at all. And the Jets and Dolphins and Raiders feature three of the worst defenses in the league. Only the Rams have a better-than-league average defense (8th/passing, 18th/rush), and the Bills should've lost that game except for some poor officiating.

And the Bills don't have a good pass rush.

Sorce 10-07-2020 03:42 PM

They have played the jets, dolphins, rams and raiders. Not exactly the top teams.

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VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 10-07-2020 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorce (Post 15225709)
They have played the jets, dolphins, rams and raiders. Not exactly the top teams.

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Rams are good

BoxWine_Stouffers_TubeSock 10-07-2020 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15225694)
If Mahomes makes that throw everyone here is slobbing his knob as it being UNDEFENSIBLE!!! COVERAGE NO MATTER!!!!! MAHOMES IS GOD!!!!!!!!!!

That was a ****ing amazing throw - the ball came out so fast and went to a spot those guys weren't getting it.

I think Josh Allen gives us all we can handle in two weeks.

He's okayish. Might be the 3rd best QB in his division. We'll see. I give him a C.

DRM08 10-07-2020 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15225716)
Rams are good

Are they? All 3 wins are against the horrible NFC East, 2 of them pretty ugly wins against Cowboys and Giants.

Megatron96 10-07-2020 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15225694)
If Mahomes makes that throw everyone here is slobbing his knob as it being UNDEFENSIBLE!!! COVERAGE NO MATTER!!!!! MAHOMES IS GOD!!!!!!!!!!

That was a ****ing amazing throw - the ball came out so fast and went to a spot those guys weren't getting it.

I think Josh Allen gives us all we can handle in two weeks.

Maybe. And I already said it was a great throw. And an even better catch.

I'm only pointing out that it wasn't a great decision, that it's never a great decision to throw into double coverage, especially when one of the defenders is draped over your receiver.

I'll go one further: I think in the same exact situation, Patrick doesn't attempt that throw, because it's too tight and it's a double. I think he goes to the receiver in the flat on the right or the guy that appears to be leaking out on the left of the OL. Either one is basically wide open, and both had room in front of them to maybe score anyway.

When Mahomes makes most of his great throws, it's almost never into double coverage, unless it's a bracket and the safety over the top is late, usually because Patrick manipulated the poor bastard into moving away from the receiver he wants to throw to. But throwing into a double on the EZ? Doesn't sound like Mahomes to me.

BoxWine_Stouffers_TubeSock 10-07-2020 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 15225724)
Are they? All 3 wins are against the horrible NFC East, 2 of them pretty ugly wins against Cowboys and Giants.

That and Goff is their QB. The only reason people care about him is because our 2018 defence made him look like Joe Montana. The dude sucks.

DJ's left nut 10-07-2020 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15225659)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BillsMafia?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BillsMafia</a>, if it was your decision and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> offered the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bills</a> a trade today: Patrick Mahomes for Josh Allen, Tremaine Edmunds and Tre&#39;Davious White - would you do it?</p>&mdash; Matt Parrino (@MattParrino) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattParrino/status/1313857430757965824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dafuq is their logic on that one?

They got White w/ the Chiefs pick, yes. And they also got the 22nd overall in 2018, which when combined w/ the 3rd they also got might have allowed them to move up to 16 and select Edmunds (though not quite).

The 'trade' was Mahomes for White and Edmunds. Then they used 7 overall on Allen.

Did their scouting department do an amazing job of salvaging a poor decision? Oh absolutely. But any team that could've had Patrick Mahomes (i.e. all of 'em) and doesn't, made the wrong choice.

RaidersOftheCellar 10-07-2020 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 15225697)
There are some pretty delusional Buffalo fans responding to that question. All it takes is a couple good games against some of the worst teams in the league and they think Allen is the greatest thing ever.

Yeah, it’s hilarious.

One guy said that it would be swapping 3 superstars for one decent player.ROFL

htismaqe 10-07-2020 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15225703)
Tried telling y’all Allen is for real. The only saving grace for us is that their defense is trash

Just like Lamar Jackson was for real, right?

Is there an opposing QB you don't slobber all over?

RealSNR 10-07-2020 07:38 PM

Call me when he throws lasers in a playoff game.

That game against the Texans last year was brutal, man. He looked like he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.

Ten bucks says Belichick sweeps the Bills yet again this year.

DJ's left nut 10-07-2020 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 15226217)
Call me when he throws lasers in a playoff game.

That game against the Texans last year was brutal, man. He looked like he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.

Ten bucks says Belichick sweeps the Bills yet again this year.

He's gotten a LOT more precise this year.

Last season he threw a lot of passes about 18 inches away from where he wanted them and made every catch for his receivers just a little harder than it needed to be.

He wasn't Tebow out there, but his pass catchers were ALWAYS having to reach back or down or up to snag a ball that was largely an unforced misfire.

If a guy can refine his mechanics to the point where that tendency largely goes away for 4 games, then it stands to reason that it's pretty sustainable. I don't think he'll stay THIS good, but I do think there's an strong chance that he's a vastly improved player to the guy he was last season.

And if so, that's a really frisky ballclub.

Best22 10-08-2020 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15225716)
Rams are good

They blew a 28-3 lead to the Rams though

We’re lucky to win

BlackOp 10-08-2020 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15225659)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BillsMafia?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BillsMafia</a>, if it was your decision and the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> offered the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bills</a> a trade today: Patrick Mahomes for Josh Allen, Tremaine Edmunds and Tre&#39;Davious White - would you do it?</p>&mdash; Matt Parrino (@MattParrino) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattParrino/status/1313857430757965824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I wouldn't trade Mahomes for their entire team....and that isn't hyperbole. We all saw him shit the bed in playoffs last year...PMII has never done that. They got beat by the Texans...the team he put 51 on in 2 3/4 quarters.

I wouldn't do it if they included their entire 2021 draft in the deal.

Bills fans are just excited that they arent awful for once...KC just beat their nemesis for the 2nd time in consecutive seasons...should have been the 3rd time straight.

It's like asking if the Bulls would trade MJ for Miller and 2 other Pacer's starters.

Veterans arent going to flock to Buffalo for a chance to play with Allen... to get a ring.

UChieffyBugger 10-13-2020 11:49 PM

Well our friend Josh had an interesting night that's for sure.

Mr.Black 10-13-2020 11:57 PM

Mahomes

JakeF 10-14-2020 02:19 AM

Keep Mahomes


The real question is Sean McDermott or Andy Reid?

Dunerdr 10-14-2020 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 15243288)
Keep Mahomes


The real question is Sean McDermott or Andy Reid?

i didnt watch any of it. did allen shit the bed again?

FloridaMan88 10-14-2020 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 15243288)
Keep Mahomes


The real question is Sean McDermott or Andy Reid?

Alert us when McDermott wins a playoff game.

MahomesMagic 10-14-2020 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 15243355)
i didnt watch any of it. did allen shit the bed again?


Titans bracketed Buffalo's primary receivers early and demanded Allen read the defense and find the open guy. It didn't look pretty.

By the time Allen needed to speed up the game to give his team a chance he had given up looking downfield and going through progressions and was looking for the checkdown on almost every throw.

Sad.

RealSNR 10-14-2020 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 15243288)
Keep Mahomes


The real question is Sean McDermott or Andy Reid?

Lololololol

dlphg9 10-14-2020 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 15243288)
Keep Mahomes


The real question is Sean McDermott or Andy Reid?

No that's not the real question you ****ing moron.

McDermott as a HC has had the number 22nd, 30th, 23rd, & 11th ranked offense in the league. Yeah, real difficult question if your mom and dad are brother and sister.


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