Inbred Pats fans trying to figure this shit out:

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The proposed CBA also reduces penalties for players who test positive for THC, eliminating any game suspensions strictly for positive tests. So no more getting banned strictly for smoking weed.</p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1230650080065138689?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

True. Got myself mixed up, lol

After reading that list of player team reps, I'm more interested in knowing how they're selected than I am interested in the CBA.

So Josh Gordon about to be reinstated. Take a flyer on him?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Full breakdown on the economics of proposed new CBA from the term sheet distributed by the NFLPA tonight to players: <a href="https://t.co/e8Hqv1TGVR">pic.twitter.com/e8Hqv1TGVR</a></p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1230651325857386496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Team vote.

I read a thing earlier that basically said Richard Sherman and Russell Okung could **** this up as they are strong voices and will likely want a lot more than this deal offers.

Salary cap is going through da roof ya'll

Anything about a separate cap use for QB’s?

Re sign Jones, Breeland, Fuller, extend Watkins and Mahomes and probably still have 20 mil left

Don’t believe so but the salary cap is about to skyrocket tho

At a bare minimum they need to be pushing hard to get the Week 17 game check up to $2.2 million. That is Russell Wilson's game check salary in a contract based on 16 games. $250,000 cap is a pretty big insult to a bunch of guys around the league, especially when you are asking them to risk injury. The cap number needs to be at least $1 million and I'd push for a lot more than that if I was in the players' shoes.

They are also increasing the active game day roster by one player which has to be an OL.

Practice squad players increase to 14 instead of 12 now.

Lol you’re still fear mongering about a strike? LMAO

Quick approval means that they wanted to push something they like through, I think the players should push back to get an extra half percent.

Nah I doubt they're enough to sway everyone.

$5 billion raise over 10 years for 17th game. Raise in the % revenue that sets the cap. $1.25 million cap exemption for two players. . Only one tag instead of two tags. One more roster spot. Another two practice squad spots. Sounds like it may get approved by the players.

With all the cap space we have.... Veach grab him now!!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lions are releasing DT Damon “Snacks” Harrison, per source.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1230659939036729344?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Last I saw there won't be a substantial increase until 21, this year's cap still expected to be around 200 mill.

If/when this gets done, FA will be nuts. We won’t be participating early but it will be fascinating to watch these deals.

Agents know that money is coming. Gonna make the current market for each position go way up

The players only care about guaranteed $ on their contracts. They don’t care about the per game check.

Even if they did they are getting that extra 250k for a real game over the basically $0 they get for the pre season games. They come out ahead.

I wish the league would come up with a way to keep homegrown talent easier. You spend 4-5 years developing a player and then not be able to keep them because they get too expensive. Do something like a 25% salary cap exception of a player's contract if that player was drafted or first signed (UDFA) by a team.

as it should be. There is plenty of money to go around. Players should get a bigger piece of the financial pie.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hard no on that proposed CBA.</p>&mdash; JJ Watt (@JJWatt) <a href="https://twitter.com/JJWatt/status/1230663863529607178?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It goes from 10 Practice Squad to 12. They have added 2 players for that.

They also added 2 players onto regular roster so instead of 53 it is now 55...if new CBA is approved.

Info from SI.com

the stars never like a new CBA regardless of the sport.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The NFLPA has sent all players a fact sheet that covers the highlights on the current proposal for a new Collective Bargaining Agreement. A lot to go through here.. <a href="https://t.co/tzOhyLOmhY">pic.twitter.com/tzOhyLOmhY</a></p>&mdash; Darren Heitner (@DarrenHeitner) <a href="https://twitter.com/DarrenHeitner/status/1230646875558219776?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Now we have enough roster spots to keep Mahomes' BFF!

Players should be happy. They can smoke weed now!

So the NFLPA CBA Proposal Fact Sheet says, practice squad will be 12 increasing to 14 with two unlimited Accrued Season players. So that is bumping from 10 PS players, which it is now, up to possibly 14?

Also weekly pay goes from $8,000 per week up to $10,500 per week for those players.

that gets a lot of votes for the deal from the players not making shit. Smart move by the NFL.

Gehrig Dieter will be happy he is getting a pay raise. Patrick is happy about that too.

All those new players being added to the NFL roster sizes, also become new NFLPA members...so there is that for the union to consider.

I apologize. The NFLPA fact sheet looks like you were correct.

It goes from 10 to possibly 12 but as high as 14 if you have 2 veteran players on there.

JJ Watt should care about games, if he has to play more than 10 that's to much.

Does Watt even play anymore?

Actually I think it looks like a pretty fair CBA proposal.

So every player will get paid an extra game check for the 17th game.

In the "Not For Long" league, many of these players won't even be around when the 17th game kicks in.

Also new contract will be signed with the 17 game schedule in mind.

The $250,000 limit, well those players are getting paid pretty well anyway.

I'm voting for it. Where do we go to cast our votes?

no suspension for only testing positive for mj

they aren’t worried about the small percent that has 100m contracts in this vote. they just need the lower paid guys to buy in

it’s not going to effect enough guys for it to matter. and if it’s that big of a deal on a superstar just give him a little raise

i’ve heard the discipline issue was big for the players

Honestly does look like a new deal. I hope MVP says yes on it tomorrow!

So 32 player Reps are going to be real important. They have to have a 2/3 vote for yes before it gets to the rank and file union members.

Nice presents from the owners have been showing up for those reps...or horses heads found in the bed.

Russell Okung who is a rep is trashing this on twitter...David Bahktiari also doesn't like it. Apparently this is not a win for a lot of guys.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’ve been covering sports labor for 20 years. This deal the NFL owners are putting forth might be the worst deal with the exception of the deal the NHL players accepted in 2005 after a year off. There’s no way the NFLPA says yes to this.</p>&mdash; Darren Rovell (@darrenrovell) <a href="https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/1230658734369779712?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The new NFL deal proposed by the owners would pay players a max of $250,000 for the 17th game in contracts already signed. The players cannot accept anything less than receiving the same amount they make for a regular game check for that season. Many make more than $750,000/game.</p>&mdash; Darren Rovell (@darrenrovell) <a href="https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/1230659404351070209?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The owners have been pushing for a seventeen game season for a long time. In all the years it’s been brought up I don’t ever remember a player saying that extending the season was a good idea.
I do however remember players basically saying **** that we’re beat up enough as it is in 16 games.
If it does go through I’d expect more players to retire early.

If this gets voted down there will be a prolonged lockout.

This is going to end up a 50-50 split on revenue and the cap will be 300m in 5 years...maybe 4.

It’s a “first offer” so OF COURSE the players side is going to take a “hard no” type of stance.

Who expected anything different?

Even if they truly love the deal, this is a major negotiation.

Nope.

Two preseason games and dump the pro bowl. Sure you get the honor of being a pro bowler , but no actual game.

The players deserve better. The power is in the nflpa hands.

49.5 to players max imo. well from what i’ve heard. only 1 vote though...

This is just the first offer. They'll go back and for giving and taking until they reach an agreement.

BTW....JJ Watt tweeted "that's a hard no" in response to this.

LMAO

Lol you're stuck on there being a hold out. If there is a holdout im blaming you for bad juju.

Maybe I’m naive, I know the owners have (much) more money of course.

But shouldn’t the players have the leverage here? Fans watch chiefs games to see Patrick Mahomes, not Clark Hunt.

The Chiefs will go on without Clark. They’ll seriously struggle without Patrick.

Advantage players, no?

What kind of negotiations would this be if they just took 1st offer. Also there was no way in hell these guys were adding an extra game just to make at most $250,000. Why the hell would they agree to making the owners a shit ton more money and the players take less than usual. Lots of you acting like the cap on paycheck won't effect many people, but there are lots of guys that make over $4 mil/year and make more than $250k a game.

Well the owners have billions and can afford a work stoppage. Did the players listen to to the NFLPA and save money so they could survive a long term lock out? Owners have the advantage unfortunately.

You're thinking about it wrong, it's just like any business. Does the CEO have more leverage then the workers? Without the owners there wouldn't be a team to play for. They hold all the leverage unfortunately.

It wouldn’t start for several years. Most contracts would be up by then

Yeah the aaf and xfl were/are loaded with nfl talent

It is more on the lines that the players have no other options than the NFL to make their money. The owners have all the leverage.

365 of them on Spotrac are higher than $4M salary ($250k per game).

How many are in 2-3 years right now?

The 250K for week 17th will never be agreed to by the player reps. Just won’t happen.

Palmer says we will tag Jones and possible re sign Fuller

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> will have to figure some things out on defense this offseason in terms of free agency. But they&#39;re not in trouble. I explained why on <a href="https://twitter.com/nflnetwork?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@nflnetwork</a> today. <a href="https://t.co/060YkTQwVB">pic.twitter.com/060YkTQwVB</a></p>&mdash; James Palmer (@JamesPalmerTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/JamesPalmerTV/status/1230649536860884992?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

If every roster spot on the Kansas City Chiefs was filled with XFL & CFL players, and college players who otherwise would never make it in professional football, fans would still fill Arrowhead because it's about the name on the front of the jerseys, and not the players wearing the jerseys?

What is an NFL team worth without NFL caliber players? NOTHING is how much.


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Just going on what I watched Chris Simms say about it, basically he said when you negotiate to this point where you offer a deal, if that deal is turned down the owners are going to think that is bad faith and get pissed off.

They would be paying those players considerably less. The owners still win.

the ONLY option the players have to make the $ they currently make and wish to make is with the NFL. The owners have all the leverage.

As I said from the beginning when this was leaked it was a bad deal for the players and they would be dumb to accept it.


If you want 17 or more games, remove the 250k max (yes I know it is just temporary), remove the inactive list and let all players including practice squad players be active, and give lifetime health benefits. Otherwise I would vote no.

The players don't care about the roster numbers, matter of fact they don't want expanded rosters, more players means less money for them.

I get tag Jones but Fuller? Thornhill should be back with honey badger and Sorenson as a 3rd safety. Breeland wants his money so he's gone. We need a CB, not a safety.

Fuller was way better playing safety but its just not a need and we are always going to be up against the cap from now on until Mahomes retires. Hard choice need to be made. This is low hanging fruit.

I'm not really talking about expanded rosters though I think they should expand it to 55-60, I am talking about all players being active on game days except those that are out because of injury.

More games = more injuries = lifetime benefits.

I don't understand the bitching about the week 17 game check.

So lets pretend I'm a player under contract and that contract states like I make $1M per game check. It's not like my contract is being cut or that my compensations is being lowered. There is a new pay period and I'm getting an EXTRA 250k.

Cry me a river. Plus they % of their share of the cap is going up meaning in future contract there is more $ available for player contracts.

Cry me a river.

I think Spags is the Joe Madden of the NFL, he loves flexibility. Having someone like Fuller allows him to do more stuff, which is important with the Honey Badger.

if my boss told me I get to work an extra day this week but we will only get 1/4 of your salary for that day, with the same workload same physical effort and risks as my normal workload, I would punch them in the face.

It is not just 1 extra game it is 1 extra week of practice/film/time away from family/injury risk/stress.

President Eric Winston???????

This is not even comparable to that.

Sure, you can break it down to what players make per game, but that's not how any player looks at their compensation package.

I know.

Wonder what he makes.