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Tribal Warfare 04-08-2020 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ubeja Vontell (Post 14895761)
The thing about running backs is we don't see a HUGE difference in them like we do at other positions. What RB isn't fast, shifty, yep, they all are or they aren't playing the position. A GREAT RB will average...4.4ish, a so so RB...4.0. Hell there are HOF RB's...3.9.

i would never spend big $$$$ on any RB.

What did the Lions do when Barry Sanders was there? The Pats haven't had a slew of great RB's.


Yes, when someone wants to run a decent offense with a good QB or a game manager that's building for the future with RBs being interchangeable. The sum of it's parts are the most important when team doesn't possess an elite QB(Alex Smith, Tiger), but when you have a transcendent QB that his presence alone makes a team a SB contender makes what the team better knowing the window is the present. That's why you hear getting QBs on cheap 1st round contracts because they are building for the future The offense was built to succeed immediately when Kareem was a durable feature back and helped Mahomes accomplish record breaking feats to AFCC inspite of Mr Magoo as DC.

KC faultered in the 1st half because the couldn't convert 3rd and short(s) because Damien isn't elite back with vision, quicks, and great contact balance like Kareem.

The Chiefs positional value represents what helps now considering the SB window thus IOL and RBs have greater value because you are protecting the most important asset that a team could have a Future HOF QB. You don't **** with , just OK " Because Mahomes Bro" because that ideology got him injured because of the workload without elite protection and a 3 down back that can pass protect.

Furthermore, I also hoped "Because Mahomes" would be able to overcome the average RB and OL output. Looking at the CB and LB positions to fill through FA or the draft with high capital. Then Patrick got injured which changed my tune, to help Mahomes as much as possible because he is that printing press we jest .

YontsRBake 04-09-2020 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Ubeja Vontell (Post 14895761)
The thing about running backs is we don't see a HUGE difference in them like we do at other positions. What RB isn't fast, shifty, yep, they all are or they aren't playing the position. A GREAT RB will average...4.4ish, a so so RB...4.0. Hell there are HOF RB's...3.9.

i would never spend big $$$$ on any RB.

What did the Lions do when Barry Sanders was there? The Pats haven't had a slew of great RB's.

Yeah, the big difference today is with the guys who are great receivers (Saquon, Kamara, Cmac, Aaron Jones). We got good enough of a receiver in D Will to get by at a low cap hit.

UChieffyBugger 04-09-2020 01:08 AM

Veach making moves but I still hope we get a decent rb in this draft if possible. The guys we have just scream "running back by rotation" and that ain't good for the long term..especially when Damian, Darrell and Dandre are all free agents next year. Also we all know Damian's injury history...if he went down are Dandre, Darrell and Darwin enough? I have my doubts. This probably means we don't take a back until the third or fourth tbh but there could still be a good one there hopefully.

lawrenceRaider 04-09-2020 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RedRaider56 (Post 14895737)
Dre' was a very good running back in the Air Raid offense at Tech.
Very good at catching balls out of the backfield. hard nose runner. Just never seemed to find his groove with the Raiders. Will be interesting if the change of scenery will help his career.

He was great his rookie year, then dinged up for a couple of years. Last year was healthy, and played pretty darn well in limited action.

Providing he stays healthy, he's a perfect fit for what Reid likes to do with RBs.

RedRaider56 04-09-2020 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 14895984)
He was great his rookie year, then dinged up for a couple of years. Last year was healthy, and played pretty darn well in limited action.

Providing he stays healthy, he's a perfect fit for what Reid likes to do with RBs.


Agreed. Plus he played on ST for the Raiders which is another added benefit


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Chris Meck 04-09-2020 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 14895821)
Yes, when someone wants to run a decent offense with a good QB or a game manager that's building for the future with RBs being interchangeable. The sum of it's parts are the most important when team doesn't possess an elite QB(Alex Smith, Tiger), but when you have a transcendent QB that his presence alone makes a team a SB contender makes what the team better knowing the window is the present. That's why you hear getting QBs on cheap 1st round contracts because they are building for the future The offense was built to succeed immediately when Kareem was a durable feature back and helped Mahomes accomplish record breaking feats to AFCC inspite of Mr Magoo as DC.

KC faultered in the 1st half because the couldn't convert 3rd and short(s) because Damien isn't elite back with vision, quicks, and great contact balance like Kareem.

The Chiefs positional value represents what helps now considering the SB window thus IOL and RBs have greater value because you are protecting the most important asset that a team could have a Future HOF QB. You don't **** with , just OK " Because Mahomes Bro" because that ideology got him injured because of the workload without elite protection and a 3 down back that can pass protect.

Furthermore, I also hoped "Because Mahomes" would be able to overcome the average RB and OL output. Looking at the CB and LB positions to fill through FA or the draft with high capital. Then Patrick got injured which changed my tune, to help Mahomes as much as possible because he is that printing press we jest .

OR-the fact that Fisher was out and Erving was playing LT, Wylie sucks ass, Reiter is a major step down from Morse, LDT is not the same post injury meant that there were no holes open in the running game as well as being shitty enough at pass blocking to actually affect Mahomes.

rtmike 04-09-2020 08:32 AM

Good gravy, how many uniforms does TT have, lol.

burt 04-09-2020 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by RedRaider56 (Post 14895737)
Dre' was a very good running back in the Air Raid offense at Tech.
Very good at catching balls out of the backfield. hard nose runner. Just never seemed to find his groove with the Raiders. Will be interesting if the change of scenery will help his career.

I am expecting a total different year for him....but I AM a homer...

RedRaider56 04-09-2020 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by burt (Post 14896229)
I am expecting a total different year for him....but I AM a homer...


Same here. Maybe the Mahomes/Washington connection hits on all cylinders again


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MahiMike 04-09-2020 09:55 AM

Told you guys. We don't need no stinking rookies/draft!

notorious 04-09-2020 10:04 AM

This team didn’t have a playoff game within single digits.

We are stacked.

These little additions are just icing on the championship cake.

Dante84 04-09-2020 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 14896316)
This team didn’t have a playoff game within single digits.

We are stacked.

These little additions are just icing on the championship cake.

Just gives us so much flexibility. We are legit looking at a dynasty if we manage everything right.

Veach won't allow us to get into a tight situation or have our hands forced. Showed great restraint in the Ramsey pursuit, and was aggressive for a guy he believed in, like Frank Clark. Love having this dude as our GM, and he's still just in his 30's.

Wallcrawler 04-09-2020 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DTVietnam (Post 14895376)
deep down even though i knew it would never happen I was hoping to wake up one day and check twitter and see that the Chiefs signed Kareem Hunt
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Jesus ****ing Christ. It had to happen. That turd just HAD to worm back into the hb discussion.

Even after a superbowl win without that maladjusted, hotheaded, complete and utter career destroying dumbass, there are still people that want his bullshit baggage on the team.

Unbelievable. The dude has one leg out the door of the NFL and you want to place responsibility on him and expect the team to rely on him.

I hope Kareem thoroughly enjoyed that Superbowl, while crying into his drug stash being forced to listen to "It couldve been me" by Billy Ray Cyrus on repeat for 48 hours.

That couldve been you kid, if you werent such an unfathomably stupid ****.

Go fight someone now. Itll make it better. Then have some drinks and drive home.

Mecca 04-09-2020 10:59 AM

Cleveland put a 2nd round tender on Hunt so even if they wanted him back it would be a no go.

Kiimo 04-09-2020 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 14896392)
Jesus ****ing Christ. It had to happen. That turd just HAD to worm back into the hb discussion.

Even after a superbowl win without that maladjusted, hotheaded, complete and utter career destroying dumbass, there are still people that want his bullshit baggage on the team.

Unbelievable. The dude has one leg out the door of the NFL and you want to place responsibility on him and expect the team to rely on him.

I hope Kareem thoroughly enjoyed that Superbowl, while crying into his drug stash being forced to listen to "It couldve been me" by Billy Ray Cyrus on repeat for 48 hours.

That couldve been you kid, if you werent such an unfathomably stupid ****.

Go fight someone now. Itll make it better. Then have some drinks and drive home.



Yeah remember how pissed people were when the Chiefs released him?

He was clearly on a short leash before the video. I'm glad people here realize how dumb it would be to re-sign him.

Rausch 04-09-2020 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14896499)
Cleveland put a 2nd round tender on Hunt so even if they wanted him back it would be a no go.

Hunt is done. He'll be out of the NFL in 2 years.

I would have liked Dobbins in the draft but Washington is a very solid no 2 or no 3 option so we shouldn't spend a single pick at HB. We are good with the 4 we have now.

If we want to improve the running game draft a solid C or G in rounds 2-4...

Tribal Warfare 04-09-2020 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14896010)
OR-the fact that Fisher was out and Erving was playing LT, Wylie sucks ass, Reiter is a major step down from Morse, LDT is not the same post injury meant that there were no holes open in the running game as well as being shitty enough at pass blocking to actually affect Mahomes.

As I said IOL's value has changed immensely . The singular aspect that needs to be remedied is protecting Mahomes if IOL or RB are 1st round prospects pull the trigger and to select them

Mecca 04-09-2020 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 14896940)
Hunt is done. He'll be out of the NFL in 2 years.

I would have liked Dobbins in the draft but Washington is a very solid no 2 or no 3 option so we shouldn't spend a single pick at HB. We are good with the 4 we have now.

If we want to improve the running game draft a solid C or G in rounds 2-4...

I actually think this is the Chiefs attempt to remake their RB room.

Damien Williams I think is the only lock, while I expect that Williams, Washington, Thompson and a draft pick to compete for the other spots, with where we ranked in rushing it's a fair thing to do.

nychief 04-09-2020 03:28 PM

I think they'll draft/bring in a UDFA RB and throw numbers at the problem like they did last year.

Mecca 04-09-2020 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by nychief (Post 14897260)
I think they'll draft/bring in a UDFA RB and throw numbers at the problem like they did last year.

I think they might do both, with Damian being the only lock and literally the rest of it being wide open.

Tribal Warfare 04-09-2020 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by nychief (Post 14897260)
I think they'll draft/bring in a UDFA RB and throw numbers at the problem like they did last year.


Which gave the bright idea for a QB sneak since KC had RBs who are unreliable to convert 3rd in short situations.

nychief 04-09-2020 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14897271)
I think they might do both, with Damian being the only lock and literally the rest of it being wide open.

I just don't see how Thompson sees the field much unless he can passblock this year.

MarkDavis'Haircut 04-09-2020 10:16 PM

Decent back. Good receiver.

I like Richard more but you guys signed a good backup. Treat him well.

jerryaldini 04-09-2020 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 14897279)
Which gave the bright idea for a QB sneak since KC had RBs who are unreliable to convert 3rd in short situations.

Dwill was money in short yardage throughout the winning streak playoff run

Tribal Warfare 04-09-2020 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jerryaldini (Post 14898127)
Dwill was money in short yardage throughout the winning streak playoff run

Damien was unavailable for more than a quarter of the season. He even said he was fresh because of said games missed.

KC needs a feature back to take the workload off of Patrick which will make him relatively healthy instead of limping through it.

KChiefs1 04-09-2020 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14895126)
Pat approves!!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Glad to be back with my dawg! Welcome to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/dwa5hington?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@dwa5hington</a> <a href="https://t.co/0hgX9QiUNf">https://t.co/0hgX9QiUNf</a></p>— Patrick Mahomes II (@PatrickMahomes) <a href="https://twitter.com/PatrickMahomes/status/1248015020455124992?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 8, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


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Thiggy#4 04-10-2020 08:28 AM

Good signing...Washington is a versatile back who can play when given the chance.

ToxSocks 04-10-2020 09:50 AM

He's going to be better in K.C than he ever was in Oakland. It's a good signing and i expect we'll be singing his praises come mid season.

And this also means that the Chief go into the draft with total flexibility. They had before this signing, but man, now they REALLY have it because backup RB was a hole.

ThyKingdomCome15 04-10-2020 01:04 PM

Solid for the money.


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