I am wrong based on something that happened with Peter King once, 5 years ago when we had a different GM. Got it.

Watching the Chiefs draft Patrick Mahomes was the greatest sports memory I ever had in my life. It's now #2, behind watching Patrick Mahomes win the Chiefs a Super Bowl.

But they're two different types of happiness, and in some ways I was MORE joyous when the Chiefs drafted Mahomes. The Super Bowl win was an accomplishment. The curse was lifted. And we reached our goal, something I've been wanting to see my entire life as a fan. The actual drafting of Mahomes, however, was the HOPE of that dream coming true, all in a huge surge of emotion, knowing that even my Chiefs are capable of taking that necessary risk you need to become a champion.

One was joy from relief. The other was joy from hope. The NFL Draft, for fans of the shittiest franchises, represents hope.

But if you can't stand the fact that Mel Kiper gets shit wrong a lot, then you do you, buddy. Go get your surge of endorphins from your shitty macadamia nut cookies. I'll take the NFL draft, thank you very much.

They seemed locked in on one of the top Wr. and one of the should be there so I don't see a trade down.

KC to me seems to be looking at a lot of different scenarios and moving pieces. There are probably one/two guys they would move up into the 20's if they slip and handful they would take if they make it to 32 and some spots they would move back 5-10 and gamble their guy is still there. It will be interesting. Just a long time to wait for the first 20 or so picks to happen.

I was just about to say f$&@k Veach has been reading the planet again.


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Veach seems more likely to be aggressive with adding offensive weapons for Mahomes than drafting a CB in the first round... just based on his history as the Chiefs’ GM.

I'm fine with that. Score 40 a game and let's see who can keep up.

In okay with that!!! Taking the Royals Mantra, That’s what speed do!

He has 2 years of draft history. You can't really take anything yet out of his tendencies because the sample size is too small.

No, you’re wrong because you were implying that it’s impossible for King to know what the Chiefs want to do, when he in fact has before and reported it.

Again, it was during Reid’s tenure. What difference does it make who the GM is? Also, Veach hasn’t had a 1st round pick for King to have dirt on since he became GM. You realize that, right?

Didn't we have one last year until a day or two before the draft?

Yea but what is there to report when Veach clearly wasn’t planning on having a 1st round pick?

Kong’s mocks are done days before the draft.

This cannot happen as Watkins got a no trade clause when he modified his deal.

King actually got this one too.

https://247sports.com/nfl/seattle-se...ock-131413774/

I don’t remember this at all. Great find.

Now this dude and all these other morons pretending that King knows nothing REALLY look dumb.

49ers are open for business too.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...nuJ?li=BBnba9I

They were actually mocked Ruggs at #13

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No. I was implying the Chiefs FO wouldn't have leaked the information. I never said anything about King except that you were an idiot for basing anything on ONE instance of him knowing we were high on a player in 2015.

Shields68's post already demolished my point so my argument is dumb. You're still an idiot, though.

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Isaiah Simmons would help up more.

You want to trade to like pick 5?

But he has a 0% chance of “falling into the twenties”.

While we’re at it....why not trade up for Okudah or Young?

Nice...

Everyone said that LB Derrick Johnson wouldn't drop to us at 15th either.

Queen or Murray as well.

You can sell me on the other guys dropping, Simmons is an elite athlete, Derrick Johnson didn't have what he has.

Some people think that Simmons might fall because he doesn't really have a position in the NFL. Myles Jack has been struggling to find a home too.

Dude if you go look at the athletic scores, Simmons rates as an elite athlete at 3 different positions.

Myles Jack is actually you know, really good, I wish our LB's struggled like that.

He also broke the news on that ball of shit, Tyson Jackson

And as somebody discovered, he had us trading for Clark last year. But he knows nothing!

I think it's fair to say that King has connections to the Chiefs. He has been right about some very specific things lately.

False

LMAO

If you want to compare a LB to DJ coming out, athletically and all that it's Queen, he's an uber athlete that is a bit undersized and isn't a big fan of taking on blockers as he goes around them and dips under...

It's not ****ing Simmons.

WOW..there's a name I haven't heard in forever.
Like, I literally completely forgot about Tyson. wasn't he like #3 overall or something.

Well, i was here on this board when everyone was screaming that Johnson would NEVER still be on the board when we picked. I was here during the live draft and people were still saying he was long gone before we picked.

A lot of that has to do with the fatalistic attitude of we Chiefs' fans. :D

Over the years we've learned that off the ball LB's don't get picked super high if they have question marks.

This rumor reminds me of when the Chiefs were reportedly willing to trade up for Laquon Treadwell a few years ago. We never got to know if and how much that was true.

In this case, I can believe that Veach and Reid really like Ruggs but the chances that they make any significant trade up for him is extremely slim IMO.

It seems like a trade up would cost something like their 2nd round pick. I really don't see it.

Plus, from what I've read on Ruggs, he seems to bring a bit more of the same that Hill and Hardman bring to the table. It's not like he would bring a new dimension to the offense.

Prove it

They only way this makes sense is if they scouted next years crop of WRs and didn't see anyone they liked.

Veach has shown he is aggressive when there is a player he likes... both with money and draft resources. Speaks, Mathieu, Clark, Watkins...and Mahomes (Dorsey).

Obviously, there is a lot of communication with Reid and Spagnuolo. They know what they have and what they need...

Mahomes is Veach's professional crown jewel...the pick of a lifetime. He is always going to aggressively to supply him with weapons.. which as a fan is fun to experience.

He caught a lot of ridicule for saying "He's the best player I've ever seen" before Mahomes was even starting....so I think there is a little of "prove you wrong" vindication in him.

I think the deal would have to include next's years #32.

This move would free up $14 million next year (not resigning Watkins)...then you subtract an additional 2021 1st round contract. Money is going to be tight in the future...

5 years of Ruggs is, financially, about the cost of a single season of Watkins...there is a chance to get a 3rd comp if Watkins signs a big deal. Chiefs probably arent going to be big spenders next season...

The other boon is the Chiefs offense will be nasty this year....

It's because Ruggs has something no one else does, special speed, the Chiefs value the shit out of it.

Why not trade for Burrow? Andy can turn him into a first rounder!

Yep.

They'd have at least 2 years of Ruggs, Hill and Hardman and one year with those guys AND Watkins and Robinson.

I doubt it will shake out that way but if it did, I wouldn't complain a bit.

I dont either...but Veach will know where he can move if there is another player he wants.

Yes, when he has the ball or is running in a straight line.

IF he falls to the twenties... yeah right

I don’t wanna trade up Ruggs, and I feel like it’s a bit of a smoke screen. Why would Veach want that leaked??

The most important aspect of Peter King's article today featured something I've been saying for weeks: The UDFA market will be insane this year because of the lack of facility visits and medical checks:

“You hit the real story behind the draft,” Chiefs GM Brett Veach said last week. “The biggest challenge for most staff this year will not be in the draft, but [in undrafted] free agency . . . It’ll certainly be a story for years to come for all draft rooms, how it all went down.”

So Denver will take him knowing they dont have an OL.

Raiders will take him.

It was bound to happen, I suppose ... due to sustained proximity ...

But, Peter King has now contracted Florio.

FAX

Do you know who their GM is??

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Maybe we can get Derrick Brown on the cheap, too.

after watching some of his youtube highlights I could see why they like this guy
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Didn’t we try that two years ago? While the game was exciting I don’t think I would like watching us score 51 again.......and lose.

I think the Chiefs are actually at a good position to get what they need without paying more to move up. Plus, it seems like there's some good talent in the middle rounds, so I have no interest in losing those picks.

That said, I generally prefer trading down to trading up, for a number of reasons. However, I have suddenly discovered a new variant to that rule. If you're the Super Bowl champions, you generally have fewer areas of need, and it takes a player with more talent to break into the starting lineup. So if you're the talent-packed Chiefs, I can see an argument for trading up to keep the talent level ultra-high in the starting lineup.

:facepalm:

Good ****ing grief.

Or maybe not jump off sides.

So this really means there's zero chance we're drafting a receiver and zero chance we're moving up. Because anything we really want to do isn't making it to the media.

Every coach/GM front office type is putting out smoke screen BS to camouflage their intentions or to put out a shiny object to deflect.

Then on draft day every team goes out to the media to gush that they got the #1 person on their board with every pick.

I still say we need o line help

That’s what will happen, if we move up.

You know what I’d love to see?

Veach moves 32 and next years first to move up to 25 and getting a late second/early third thrown in this year.

I’d be happy with that.

Next years draft might come after a shortened season in college football, if any.

Or stop a team on 3rd and long even once when it mattered.

Not IF they decide to offer up CJ.

Just Reid/Veach screwing with Gruden/Elway.;)

No way we have the ammo UNLESS we offer CJ and it better be a top 15 or higher pick.;)

lol that's literally the same thing

Not really.

He’s saying it’s a rumor he’s heard, but he’s implying he doesn’t even necessarily believe it.

It’s pretty obvious that he’s not reporting it as fact.

It wouldn't surprise me either. What would surprise me if the trade up was for Ruggs. I see that more as a smokescreen personally

Couldn’t fathom a better year not to have 6th and 7th round picks.

Veach nails his UDFA too so this should be good

Yep. Agree 100%. People forget how bad the o line was at times last year

When you're dealing in rumors, you don't have to believe something personally to report it.

No idea why he would take an issue with that tweet.

We fixed that issue.

whatever hapens..the last few years have taught me to Trust Veech and Andy ..

whatever decision they make will be right for the team

I wonder if the Chiefs would have taken Gladney had he not been picked right before us?

Seems to me they were 100% CEH if he was available. At this point I think they would've taken CEH even if Queen was still on the board.

I think Reid and company pulled another smoke screen like they did with Paxton Lynch, lol.

I think this is 100% true. The meltdown would have been Chernobyl-like.