Who give a shit as long as they are in the nfc kccan rule the afc for a long time!

NOW he wants to be a Chief. No thanks.

Oh yes. Mahomes beating them in Tampa next February would be a beautiful sight.

Us not being able to end Brady's career directly (rather than having Fitzpatrick do it for us) was really the only unfinished business coming out of this past season for me.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tom Brady and gronk walking to Raymond James stadium for the first time <a href="https://t.co/th6m1fIMMB">https://t.co/th6m1fIMMB</a></p>&mdash; CombackCecil (@CombackCecilSZN) <a href="https://twitter.com/CombackCecilSZN/status/1252698838177112065?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I'll give you that. The only thing Witten ever did better than Tony was run block. Tony had the hands, route-running, football IQ, etc. over any TE I've ever seen in my lifetime. If he still has some burst and can still take a hit, I'd sign him. Hell, Antonio Gates and Ben Watson are still playing and they can't run for shit.

if you didn’t see my post..... I’d not get too excited about football being played in TB, with fans in the stands anyway.

I can’t see any way the Empire isn’t the winner here.

Yes, looking very forward to the game and the partying!!

They have a moron for a governor who is going to open everything up within a week or two. As such, I wouldn't be too sure about anything that's going to happen in 9 months or so.

its not his decision. It’s the NFL’s decision. Ticket revenue is only 15% of the NFL’s Total revenue. That’s a haircut compared to people getting covid-19 at a football game.

Hasn't Brady sucked against us with or without Gronk the last couple years? He's 43 years old and I know ESPN is starving for content, but who gives a **** about Gronk coming back. The Bucs will be a better team and probably make the playoffs, but we saw all of this hype with Cleveland last year and turned out to be a big shit burger.

If they want to go up against us with Pat in year 3 (starting), Mecole is gonna be a much bigger deal, another TE that isn't a broke dick added to go with Kelce, and the defense continues to keep getting better....let's line em up and watch that curb stomping!

I said last year we wouldn't lose another game after the Tennessee fluke and we didn't. I don't know who we will lose to again, but it'll happen, maybe 🤷🏾*♂️

**** you for posting this.

Yea I don’t know if he can take a hit. The one thing about Tony tho is that his nutrition and health has always been top notch. One year deal 1 Mil. He deserves that ring. After what Carl and the shit he had at QB he deserves to be rewarded with Reid and Mahomes

Ain’t getting a ring if you give out roster spots to brokedick former greats.

I will say that last season he appeared to be in great shape, lean but still had plenty of muscle, almost as if he could suit up.

I’d take Tony G over Ryan ****ing Hunter. We need a third TE anyways. It’s a really easy choice. Tony G or Deon Yelder?

I mean it’s 2020, crazier things have happened then if Tony G were to return

Uh, we just won a ring, and we are bringing back 20 out of 22 starters from last season. And last season we had both Shady and Suggs on the team. You know, the team that just won SB LIV. Explain to me why we can't get another ring with Tony?

We play the Bucs so it will be our chan chance to shut up Brady loving bundle of stickss forever.

Tony would benefit... Chiefs do it without him

That wasn't the question.
And while I agree that the Chiefs can win another SB without Tony, the question really is "is Tony a better option at TE2 or TE3 than who we ran with last season?" I don't think there's any question, IMO. Tony would be a huge upgrade over Yelder/Bell. And likely for peanuts.

The media’s (over)reaction seems to think that this will be the equivalent of Brady/Gronk in their primes.

Instead it will be a broke dick 43 year old QB and a broke dick 31 year old TE who has been out of football for a year and who has lost a ton of the muscle mass that made him a physically dominating player.

Good luck with that.

The Buccaneers aren't making the playoffs, let alone a Superbowl. This roster is still miles away from being good.

Yesterday/today Gronk passed his physical and weighed in at 260 lbs. Don't think he lost as much muscle as you think.

I fear zero teams that are decisively worse than the Chiefs at HC and QB. The Buccaneers fall into that category.

The Bucs would have been in the playoffs easily last year had Winston not thrown 30 Interceptions, most of them at very critical times in the game.

They'll be a playoff contender with or without Gronkowski because their defense is ****ing tits and their perimeter weapons are among the best in the league.

And Tom Brady won't throw 30 INT's.

He’s goddamn 44, you mongaloid.

The only players to play at that age are kickers.

I am leaning towards this. I believe Brady has 1 decent year left, but Gronk has about 4 games left.

Gronk got his break. He's only 30. Brady is the wild card. Can he do enough to win with a totally new team? Will the wall hit him before December? It will happen soon.

It's 'mongoloid,' dipstick.

Your contention was that we couldn't win a SB if we signed a 44 year-old TE2 or TE3. I still would like an explanation for that viewpoint. Especially when there have been and will be starting QBs that have played into their early 40s.

Bring em on. I’d love to see Brady (& Co.) v. KC in the SB.

That is entertainment.

Hmm suddenly I very much want it to be the Buccs playing us in the SB. I hope they get Edelman too. It's time we put these old timers away for good.

The regular season game may end up having the highest SNF ratings of the year

Definitely going to be a night game.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens in that division. The Panthers are pretty washed up (they were 5-11 with a horrible -130 point differential). The Saints were clearly the class of the division (13-3,+117). Then you had the Falcons and Bucs in the middle with 7-9, the Falcons a -18 and the Bucs a +9. It's a weird division, full of aging QBs who still have the ability to play well. Depending on how the Falcons do this season, I could see the Bucs going anywhere from 12-4 to 9-7. Will it be enough to unseat the Saints? Will it be enough to get the Bucs past the logjam of strong NFC teams (Cowboys, Eagles, Niners, Seahawks, Rams, Packers, Vikings... seven teams who altogether averaged a +73)? Does a 43-year-old QB and a year-retired injury-prone former stud TE have enough to bring the offense to a level where it can make the playoffs and win playoff games? The NFC is going to be fascinating... as opposed to the AFC, where the storyline is simply, "Can the Ravens do enough to get some lucky bounces and beat the Chiefs in the AFCCG?"

You serious? In the midst of everything going on, I haven’t even really paid attention to the schedule.

Now I’m psyched.

Adding an extra playoff team to each conference should make the regular season even more important to teams on the edge of making the playoffs.

Defensively, Tampa is near elite. They have some excellent perimeter weapons on offense and an excellent head coach and defensive coordinator.

Their offensive line is their Achilles heel, although they have an opportunity to upgrade because they're picking early enough in Round 1. If they can come to terms with Shaq Barrett before July 15th, they'll have an opportunity to trade for some offensive lineman as well, maybe even Thuney.

They're close.

Yeah, the Chiefs are at New Orleans and at Tampa Bay this season, so I'd imagine we'll see both on either SNF and/or TNF.

He can go back to the Falcons that he loved so much.

Quick think of every terrible trademark combo before Brady makes his TB12 application. Then blackmail him for some nudes of Gisele. Then forward me those nudes as a thank you for the idea.

They aren't even winning their division bro.

Their run defense was good, but their pass defense was pretty awful. And that’s a large part why their run defense was so good. Because passing on them was the way to score. Let them trot that shitty defense and porous o line out there with an old qb with limited mobility. I’m not worried about the Bucs.

The Bucs were an average defense the second half of the year. Barrett was a complete fluke, he won't get double digit sacks this upcoming season. The young DB's will ALL take a big step back from the end of the season. This Buccaneers team it anywhere close to being ready for a playoff run. Bad offense with an old rag armed QB, no running game, offensive line is shit, they have 2 legit weapons everyone else on the offense is crap and outside of Vita Vea they have nothing on the front 7. Devin White is fast, but is still too dumb to not blow every gap assignment in front of him, JPP is old and will come to halt here in 2020 and none of their DB's are good enough to make up for the linebackers sucking (except Lavonte David, he is a decent player). In other words the Buccaneers are as far off from the Superbowl as an 8-8/7-9 team can be.

Agreed

Brady throwing to Goodwin, Evan's, and Gronk is compelling. But it's got nothing on KC returning all it's fire power. Young fire power at that.

Pats had hilariously little leverage.

“If the Patriots wanted to play hardball, he could have signed his papers to unretire and eaten up $10 million against the Pats’ salary cap until a trade materialized. Gronk is due to earn a $9 million base salary, $250,000 offseason workout bonus and $750,000 in per-game roster bonuses in 2020.

That would have been problematic since the Patriots only have about $1 million in cap space....”

They can have the spotlight, but they are not gonna be hoisting the Lombardi. So who cares.

I would say that the Buccaneers are better than the Chiefs at WR and TE but far inferior at QB at this point, which is why they will struggle to get to 8 wins.

Nah.

That's probably an 11-5, NFL Divisional round team.

Depends how much COVID impacts the ability for the offense to gel.

Ehh Brady is going to hit a wall sometime around week 8 and he will be Manning at the end of his career. The difference is the Buccaneers don't have that defense.

considering Brady can't throw the ball further than 8 yards now...

The warm weather will probably help him a little bit.

Please explain your reasoning.

They're #2 WR is better, the Hill Evans thing is I'm gonna say push, just completely different players but both dominant at what they do.

Their TE is not better, but now they basically have a backup TE that is starter quality so they don't have the elite guy that Kelce is but their depth is better.

Gronk will be good for a few games, but overall his production over the season and the consistency just won't be there. Selling tickets and hyping up the team, that's all this is right now.

Has anyone like BlackOp chimed in yet about how this is an NFL conspiracy and ultimate payback for Brady fighting through 2019, agreeing to allow the Chiefs to win it only to be paid back by going to another team in the NFC in 2020 and then walking away with a ring?

I'm sure the tinfoil crowd is working on this, yeah?

I’m not sold on the Tampa defense.

They allowed 449 points last year. Only 3 teams allowed more.

They had 47 sacks, which is pretty good. I doubt it’s sustainable for them though. 19.5 came from Shaq Barrett, whose previous career high was 5.5. 8.5 came from JPP, who’s is 31. Next highest was 6 and everyone else had 2.5 or less.

They allowed 270 passing yards per game, which was 3rd worst in the league. This might also explain some of the sack numbers. They were so bad against the pass that teams possibly threw more than usual. Despite teams throwing against them so much, they only managed 12 picks.

I get that throwing 30 picks hurts your defense. Brady won’t do that, but he also won’t throw for 5,000 yards either.

We saw how easily Mahomes shredded the Titans defense twice. Brady looked absolutely horrible against them. Yeah his weapons weren’t very good last year, but 20-37, 209 yards, and a pick 6? That’s horrible. When Mahomes has zero weapons and Kelce playing (probably hungover) against the Colts, he still managed 321 and a TD.

Tampa Bay needs a first round bye to be a contender. Otherwise, they have zero chance at a Super Bowl.

They're both completely washed. It's gonna be an epic dumpster fire

How long is it going to take Brady and those receivers to get on the same page and get their timing down? Not having an offseason could impact how they start the season. Might not be enough to make them miss the playoffs, but could absolutely keep them from winning the Division or getting the 1-seed.

TB also had the 11th worst adjusted sack rate and the 9th worst adjusted line yards.

Basically, they had one of the 10 worst OL’s in the league last year.

Good thing Brady runs like a gazelle!

You touched on it later in the post, but their QB had like 40 turnovers. It would be difficult for any defense to excel given those circumstances. I'm not saying they're great or anything, but I'm sure they'll perform better this season just by virtue of having a smart QB who moves the chains and doesn't hand them shitty field position.

Mike Evans is incredible and Godwin really turned up this past season, but after that they've got no depth. IIRC, they lost Perriman (and he kinda sucked anyway).

It's essentially Hill, Watkins, Hardman and Robinson vs Evans and Godwin.

But in all likelihood their sack numbers will come way down. Fewer sacks with that secondary means disaster.

Godwin is better than the 3 guys you mentioned. I believe they will end up with one of the top receivers in the draft.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I think Bill Belichick needed Tom to be successful. Do you think Tom needs Bill??? My answer is Nooo. Talk to me</p>&mdash; Asante Samuel (@pick_six22) <a href="https://twitter.com/pick_six22/status/1253008034231717888?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 22, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Asante Samuel with a shot across the bow...

Isn't Matt Cassel and his contract the response to this?

Leave it to Belichick to get picks for a guy that was already retired.

Has Gronk bulked back up? Last I saw him he was back to "skinny Gronk". Far from the big badass guy that we'd seen play. Curious how he gets back to that form in time for this season. (Unless he already has.)

Fox is behind Gronk coming back. He’s going to lose the 24/7 title during a game on Fox.

He weighed 260 lbs. at his physical the other day.

If they do then I'd consider it, but at present? It's hard to argue Bucs receivers over Chiefs.

Who even is their third WR right now anyway?

I would also add that the QB’s ability plays into what you get out of your weapons.

Mahomes would get more out of shit weapons than Brady would. Give both elite weapons, and the same holds true.

Did Vince McMahon agree to this? ROFL

Well, Bill proved he didn’t need Asante Samuel.

Most ex-Pats have sour grapes.

Not me, but for most of the pink hatters...

I'd give up a 4th for OJ Howard.

Asante is a dick... He couldn't even get along w Reid of all ppl.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Gronkowski Breaks 6 Tackles On Way Out Of Neurology Clinic To Finalize Trade With Tampa Bay <a href="https://t.co/HBwLjErQMM">https://t.co/HBwLjErQMM</a> <a href="https://t.co/bTt0O4NHfr">pic.twitter.com/bTt0O4NHfr</a></p>&mdash; The Onion (@TheOnion) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1253061520961024000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 22, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Brady still have a live arm, don't get it twisted. We're not talking Peyton Manning wet noodle here.

The problem is, is he willing to hang in the pocket and deliver and take the hit? If the last two years are an indication, the answer is no.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Most receiving YPG since 2017 for the TEs listed above<br><br>Kelce - 76.7<br>Kittle - 65.4<br>Ertz - 64.5<br>Cook - 49.8<br>Hooper - 43.8<br>Engram - 51.9<br>Gronk - 65.4<br>Ebron - 39.5<br>Graham - 33.4<br>Rudolph - 31.9<br>Howard - 38.3<br>Andrews - 45.3</p>&mdash; NFL Stats (@NFL_Stats) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL_Stats/status/1253054823869689856?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 22, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hope it works out as well as their trade for Jake the Snake Plummer

Hah. Kelce has been going the **** off lately.