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Veach is God!

It's hard to compare GMs across the NFL especially if you only say, "Well, look at all these good players we've added through the draft and from random dumpsters!" Perhaps half of the fans around the league claim their GM is the best in the NFL and will attempt to prove it by compiling a list of talent their guy has added to the roster. Rick Spielman of the Vikings has a VERY underrated resume in that regard. The few dozen Charger fans out there will often claim that Telesco is the best because he hits his drafts out of the park. And hey, yeah, he's more of a meme at this point than he is anything else, but Jerry Jones is fully capable of finding talented players. Again, if we're just making lists of great moves, all of these GMs can boast strong resumes.

You're not special if you can find good players in the NFL. You can find good players. Your division opponents can do that, too. So can half the league.

The best GMs are the ones who not only find those players, but they also do so with a cohesive vision and a plan. Bill Belichick isn't that great at drafting, but he wins Super Bowls with weirdly unspectacular rosters because he is always one step ahead of the rest of the league at zigging when everybody else is zagging. Veach has been in a very fortunate environment to begin his career, but he's been VERY active the past couple of offseasons and isn't afraid to challenge conventional wisdom, like when everybody says he's constantly riding too close to the cap limit and he manages to bring just about everybody back for another Super Bowl run.

And sometimes those strategies don't work, or they do work but even the best GMs make too many mistakes in implementing them. But ideally if you're in a supportive environment, your owner will keep you around long enough so you can ride out the cycle of disappointment and try again.

It's still a collective effort with Reid's blessing in the end IMHO. Reid can downplay his part all he wants but it still goes through Andy.

Per Louis Riddick

@Chiefs General Manager Brett Veach joining us on #NFLLive tomorrow on @espn. The man is making it happen! You will want to tune in. Promise. #NFL

ROFL

Machiavellian Hitler,

I have no words.

Touche

🤣

Man. What's it like being THAT reeruned?

Hitchens never HAD the wheels, but outside of that, he's been wonderful.

You are one bitter narcissistic dude for sure. Get some help man.;)

I think I'd still go with Ozzie here, but Ballard is good as well.

Coulda shoulda woulda.

Veach went for the gold and got the gold. Sure he tripped over his dick early, but a trophy is a trophy.

Ballard had the tools to go for the gold in 2018 and went Ted Thompson. While it's great to have vast capital, it's still not for long and he flubbed it.

Veach in Indy could have possibly got them one Lombardi with Luck before the goony mother****er quit to go bird watching or whatever the **** he's doing now.

Ozzie is no longer the Ravens GM.

:cuss:

I know. He's serving as some sort of scout/talent-evaluator/front office guru roll now. He's still the best, IMO.

All the evidence points to KC's HC/GM relationship being one that collaborates and shares notes and ideas on personnel, but the GM gets the final say. Both dudes report to Clark Hunt.

Why would the franchise lie about something like that? They have absolutely nothing to gain. Philadelphia was completely open about Andy Reid having final say over Howie Roseman on personnel matters. So was Andy Reid. Reid comes to Kansas City and says, "We're going to change it up. I'm going back to being a coach. That's where I'm the happiest." Even if he didn't mean that at all, then why wouldn't he just do what he did in Philly when Veach got hired and say, "I'm working with him on personnel."

You're trying to find a hidden ulterior evil motive like you always ****ing do with everything. You think your version is the actual truth in spite of nothing at all to support it. And you're calling ME narcissistic?

Sometimes a coach is just a coach, Sigmund Fraud.

I think Telesco is a pretty underrated GM that would look better if he got some common sense and left a dead end franchise like the Chargers.

Lynch, as much as I hate to say it, has been brilliant as well. His eye for QBs may ultimately be his downfall, but everything else he touches seemingly turns to gold.

Getting Kittle in the 5th might be even better than Tyreek in the 5th.

I think more credit goes to mini rat there. Lynch has definitely exceeded the 0 expectations they set for him though, and Kittle was a top notch land. That double first round selection of Solomon Thomas and Foster though....woof.

Those were terrible, but almost everything else has been great. Samuel in the 2nd was awesome.

He’s a good GM, but he also just drafted Herbert who I’m very confident will be a bust.

I have a suspicion that was driven by shitty ownership.

I'm still holding out a bit to see what the end result will look like. Samuel was a WR I was very high on going into last years draft though. Falling into McGlinchey was another solid move.

Lynch has also benefitted from drafting fairly high. BUT, overall, he's done that well.

I'm curious to see how this class shapes out. I had Kinlaw very high on my imaginary board in this draft.

I have no problem calling it “The Brett Veach Lounge” until Week One. Anyone disagree?

DeCosta has proven to me that he’s as good as Ozzie as a GM. He killed it this offseason.

Veach, DeCosta, Roseman, Telesco and Ballard are top 5 IMO

In retrospect, I think one of Veach's best moves was "trading" Marcus Peters.

I use "trading" in quotes because IMO, it was either that or a keel haul.

Remember ... when that happened, many fans were pissed off as hell because they valued Peters and we did not yet know what we had in Mahomes.

Veach knew, however ...

He knew that (going forward) this was Mahomes' locker room and Peters was going to be a distraction and would eventually become a plague on our house.

Today, we have a culture that not only values winning, it values teamwork and brotherhood among the players and coaches.

Rare.

And possible (at least, in part) because Veach was confident that showing Peters the egress was the best move at the time.

FAX

People overrate Ballard so much just because we wanted him. All I see in Indy so far is him not signing or even trying to sign free agents and just signed Phillip Rivers, a stopgap at best and a brokedick at worst.

His drafts haven't been great either

I think not re-signing Nelson was one of the best moves

The finesse is sticking with a strategy. Mathieu, Watkins, etc. were paid huge money because that's how you get a player to accept a shorter-term deal you can easily get out of. It may seem common sense to do lots of these deals with an elite QB on a rookie contract but Veach did it with remarkable consistency. Including a bold decision to wipe out Houston & Berry's cap charge. The Chiefs aren't saddled because Veach built in enormous flexibility because outside of the big 3, we barely have any long-term dead money to worry about. For a Super Bowl roster.

He did enough for a Super Bowl (the defense was no small accomplishment) and he's given us a great window for another 3-4 more years. And he built tremendous flexibility in 4 years when Mahomes' contract kicks in because we won't be saddled with any dead money. Sure, it makes for some hard decisions then. But we have a few years to build up young talent and we'll have tons of cap wiggle room by then, not to mention that Mahomes also has wiggle room to restructure his contract to get more talent around him.

What I'm hoping is Mahomes will pop out a son really quick and by the time he retires we draft PMIII

I’ll be be quick - Patrick Mahomes and SB. He’s already the best GM the Chiefs ever had...by a landslide.

I would rank Veach over him at this point because of the Super Bowl, but Ballard's done a great job in Indy. He took over from a completely inept front office and completely retooled the team. They were a mess at offensive line and he turned it into the best OL in the league. He completely re-did the defense into a top 10-15 unit, and found value at every level of the draft.

Veach was definitely given a much better team, but was behind the big move that kicked us over the top. Ballard rebuilt the Colts, and now they're basically a QB and pass rusher away, which to be fair are the two most important areas. He got kind of screwed by Luck. He basically needs to find a real franchise QB in the draft, and he'll finish the job.

He got dealt a significant blow when Luck suddenly retired. The Colts are going to be the team we will be battling. Rivers behind that OL may be deadly for a year or two.

Every decision Veach has made can be justified. We won the SB after cutting bait with some high end players and signing some. He found Mahomes as well. He is the man to trust.

One of the many things I really respect about him. He means what he says (so far). he said he was going to sign Mahomes to a long-term deal that would make Pat a KC Chief for the duration of his career.

Done.

He said he was going to find a way to keep Sammy Watkins around over the off-season.

Done and done.

He said he had every intention of keeping CJ in KC for the foreseeable future.

Done and done and done.

So far he's been a man of his word, and I love that. No negotiating double-speak or other nonsense. Just honest statements and 100% integrity. We can just sit back and relax with this guy running the FO.

Well ****ing said!!! Veach is gonna go down as one of the greats as well. He’s super young and knows exactly what he is doing

I would go as far as saying the Chiefs are currently the best run franchise in the NFL. Clark is a great owner who is just hands off enough but has let it be known that if you aren’t getting it done GTFO! He’s smart enough to know he doesn’t have all the answers but tries to put the right people in place. I don’t think he gets enough credit for that full court press to get Andy to KC back in the day.

Clark’s the ****ing man and his wife and daughter are HOT.

Lamar has gotta be shedding a year looking down at him being so proud of him. Clark is a fantastic owner!!

That’s why we’re so lucky. So many franchises are doomed from the start by bad ownership and worse hires like the Bengals. Some of the other teams owners are just vanity projects. I think Clark wants to further cement his families legacy on the league. Lamar played a big part in innovation and now Clark has a chance to make the Chiefs one of the storied winning franchises.

So when does Clark Hunt start talking to Veach about an extension? Just make it a lifetime contract. Veach has literally told us what he wants to do with each player and he follows through on his word. No BS. If he told me tomorrow that they would cut the whole team and sign the entire Bengals roster I somehow believe we would win the super bowl. Veach has my 100% trust. This is what a perfectly run franchise looks like. No disgruntled players on the team. Veach let’s his players know that if you ball out we will re sign you. Just be patient!! Jones showed up last year to training camp and didn’t hold out. Veach told him he wants him in KC for a long time and boom what happens a deal gets done. I can’t find a single flaw in Veach. Not one. He manages the cap like a wizard, he brings players in that contribute. He will be in the HOF when it’s all said and done

Could any have you ever imagined someone posting this on CP and not being immediately eviscerated?

Wasn’t Andy literally seconds away from becoming the head coach of the Cardinals?

Not only that but the corners on our roster left a lot to be desired at the time, our secondary also was our weakest part of the defense. Trading away Peters who was widely regarded as our best CB at the time was not a popular move.

Veach hasn't missed much while being the GM of the KC Chiefs- only move that I think was a bad misfire was Breeland Speaks but who gives a shit since the good heavily outweighs the bad.

:LOL:

OMG. I ****ing love the internet.

Not high on Speaks, but we still don't know what we have in him. Kpass looked great once he was out of Uncle Bob's cluster****.

Veach is about to be on NFL Live on ESPN here in a few minutes.

how was it?

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Remember when Steven Nelson said Pittsburgh was better than KC because of the relationship with the players and the front office?

LMAO

He must have been thinking of the King Carl era.

That's a great example of far we have come. :thumb:

He only feels that way because we didn’t pay him lol

Here's my Brett Veach story:

As some of you know, I won a charity auction at the last Big Slick in June 2019. As I was outside the Sprint Center getting an Uber with my friends, a man approached me with his wife.

"Hi, I'm Brett Veach, GM of the Kansas City Chiefs, and I really liked your style in there."

"Uhm, I know who you are."

We then spent a good 20 minutes on the side talking about the Chiefs. I asked him about the Tyreek situation. He gave me some details which I can't repeat but said, "Max 2 game suspension. Probably not even that." I asked him about the trade for Frank Clark and whether he felt he could get that production from a certain prospect who tested well in the combine. "Well, that guy wasn't even on our draft board for health reasons. But man, no one in OTAs can block Frank Clark." He then took his iPhone out and he was showing me video of Clark dominating in practices. We talked the draft class. We talked Mahomes. I only regret not asking him about Dorsey.

I think he was buzzed. I was hammered and it shows in the pictures. Veach is like if any of us ever became GM and we're just really ****ing good at what we do and excited to be doing it.

Veach, unlike several of our previous GMs, seems like a good dude.

Veach was on the MMQB pod. Very interesting that he thinks he’s a hybrid of John Dorsey and Chris Ballard. I never thought of that, but I can actually see that in Brett.

Dude called the SB win on opening day of camp.

I know you said you can't repeat the stuff related to Tyreek, but can you at least tell us, "HE GOOD"

LMAO

If not the best, he's definitely in that conversation.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For every <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFL?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFL</a> organization that wants to chase/try to find the next <a href="https://twitter.com/PatrickMahomes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PatrickMahomes</a> they should also be chasing/trying to find the next combo that works like Hunt/Veach/Reid...greatness is a group effort in the NFL</p>&mdash; Dan Orlovsky (@danorlovsky7) <a href="https://twitter.com/danorlovsky7/status/1280307377988927489?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

As I recall he used that very term, and as he grinned, I noticed he had borrowed one of Tyreek's gold teeth. I knew everything was gonna be okay after that.

Was that the same night you blew him in the bathroom at McFaddens Twisted Chief?

This is so true.

Veach is going in the ring of honor.

He sure worked wonders with that $177.00 this off season.

Can we draft Mahomes unborn son yet? I mean, with two parents who were paid money to play sports, with one of them being the greatest to ever do it, the kid has to be genetically gifted. And I think we already know that Mahomes will be a great father, mentor, and coach to this not-yet-conceived phenom.

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Watch out SuperTurtle will call you a reerun for that

I never wanted to breed with anyone more than I want to with Patrick Mahomes. That perfect, curvy body. Those bountiful breasts. The immaculate thighs of a literal god. It honestly ****ing hurts knowing that I'll never mate with him, pass my genes through him, and have him birth a set of perfect offspring. I'd do ****ing ANYTHING for the chance to get Mahomes pregante. A N Y T H I N G. And the fact that I can't is quite honestly too much to ****ing bear. Why would God create something so perfect? To ****ing tantalize us? ****ing laugh in our faces?! Honestly guys, I just ****ing can't anymore. ****./MAHOMO 4 LIFE

I’ll have to find the clip, but Andy was talking about Veach’s keen eye for talent when he was excited about Mahomes an entire year before he was draft eligible.

Andy mentioned that Veach was also excited about Carson Wentz some time before he was draft eligible, but obviously Wentz wasn’t attainable (fortunately lead us to Pat!).

Veach is 40 years old guys. That’s it. Andy obviously won’t be here forever, but I have full confidence in Brett Veach having the responsibility to find not only Andy’s successor, but also Patrick’s (when that time comes).

I feel an incredible amount of comfort with him deciding those 2 key decisions for our future.

Happy birthday Burt!

Happy Birthday young GOAT

Only 40 years old, wow... he could be here another 20-25 years easy

Happy Birthday, Brad!!!!!!

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Veach is so damn good 😭😭.

Mahomes, Watkins, CEH, and Fisher, right?

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Taco too but he’s on IR

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