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in florida, the spring breakers did lead to a big outbreak. Now Florida is struggling to get things under control.

Random, never know who it going to catch it and spread it.

So ****ing what, are you a moron? He is worried that his uncles' preexisting condition combined with Covids could lead to some serious health issues.

Lemme guess, you are another inbred mongoloid that believes covids is a hoax and nothing more than the flu.

LMAO

Aww man. I came in looking to see some good Sturgis stories and pics. Instead, it’s the COVID bullshit.

Listen ****face.

For one it's an outdoor event.

Two, I'm guessing his uncle is pretty ****ing old and having just went through major heart surgery the poor old bastard probably just wants to have fun and live his life a little before it ends. Or he could spend the rest of his days quarantined like a rat in a cage until his ultimate demise.

Nobody including his nephew should question his decision to enjoy the remainder of his life.

Finally, go **** yourself.

You miss the skank getting mauled by a bison a few posts up?

Rona will be over about the same time that duh u runs recruiting in the state of Florida.

Taking a tour of the town on Google maps is interesting, the town is spliced up with maps from May, August, Sept. and October.

Main and Milde street has some of the bike feel because they were taken in August, otherwise the town seems quiet. Seems like a decent Midwest town overall.

It's a quiet town 10 months out of the year. Friendly people willing to help you out. They understand a lot of their revenue is made in a short time.

It is however on the edge of the black hills. It can be hotter than hell there this time of year.

The Great White Buffalo made its final stand.






On some woman in Custer State Park.


+1 for the Buffalo.

So it will be over now?

Miami is in the process of securing virtually every major South Florida recruit for 2021.

Talk about an attempted diss fail, JFC LMAO

It is hilarious to watch you continue to attempt (and mostly fail) at making a case for why sitting outdoors in a football stadium is more risky than sitting on an airplane vs attending an outdoor protest, etc.

Bottom line is during the past few months people have flown on airplanes, participated in protests, attended outdoor celebrations at Mt. Rushmore and while each has its own incremental differences in terms of risks, as a general rule none of those activities have led to the so called ”super spreader events” you are breathlessly anticipating.

You're trying to make a case for a position you hold. I'm trying to help you understand how the world works from the data we have available. That's the difference.

It's not my responsibility to cure you of your ignorance. If you truly wanted to learn, there are plenty of sources out there that can help you. But you don't. So why should I waste my time?

Jesus christ. Can we get away from you ****ing fear mongers anywhere? Take your shit somewhere else. We're surrounded by breathless Covid fear porn every where we look. Take it somewhere else. If you're time is up, it's up. Quit living in fear like a little bitch.

Well look at that. Speak of ignorance, and a perfect example appears.

Can we make some kind of rule that blatant counter-factual stupidity has to stay in the DC forum where it belongs?

No

The DC was created especially for those people that wanted to talk politics or for people that just couldn't join in on a conversation without making it political.

For whatever reason, the Mods are allowing politics to slip into nearly every thread in the Lounge and I think it ****ing sucks.

There's a dedicated forum in which to discuss politics, so there's absolutely no reason to bring that into the Lounge, which should be reserved for sports only.

It's not like people are talking sports in the DC.

Counter-factuals aren’t inherently poliitical. Susser is just trying to limit non-political arguments he doesn’t like.

You're right. We should just ban them entirely. Good idea.

That’s idiotic, but whatever you want to do. I’m not sure why you picked this hill to say something nonsensical on.

Smells like you're cooking up a couple of .500 seasons here really soon!

Just trying to match your desired level of intellectual conversation. Any opinion is valued no matter how idiotic, right?

DaFace for MOD GOD.

Mod of the year!

I don’t need you or Suzzer curating for me, if that’s what you’re asking. I still don’t know why you’d pick this topic to get stupid on. Do counter-factual arguments enrage you?

Enraged? No. But I do think that elevating the opinions of those who intentionally choose not to learn about the topics they're discussing is annoying at best and harmful at worst.

On a side note, I don't mean any offense, but I'm going to stop responding to you for a while. I'm not sure you've said a word to me in the past 5 years that wasn't bitching in some way about either me or the mods, so I'm not sure what the point really is. You want CP to be a free-for-all with no subforums and where the quality of discussion in DC reigns supreme. We get it. It's not happening. It's wasting both my energy and yours to get into it further anymore.

My personal hot take is whatever line we draw, some people will always walk right up to it and put their toes on that line, and inch across to be just obnoxious enough to fly under the radar. And not just for politics.... people have literally asked us how shitty they can be to other people and wanting us to provide the line on racism or hate or whatever.

As far as politics, there are certainly people who are more in tune to it than I am... people who point out how political certain posts are because of some sub context that I'd otherwise be unaware of, whether it's some public figure who's on one side or the other, or DC leakage, etc.

We've never been zero tolerance on much around here, and as much as I'd love to put a stop to every political thing in the Lounge, a lot of it is more eye-roll inducing than anything... and it would really be more about booting people from the Lounge entirely than trying to put up with the same people who get booted from threads.

I don't have a good answer for it. Daface one day mentioned having no DC at all... and while in theory that gives people a place to spew all of their political drivel, maybe getting rid of it would drive those idiots away. :shrug:

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Says the idiot that posts there.

Well, since some people are unable to "Self-Police" in the Lounge, the answer would involve a ridiculous amount of work on behalf of the moderators, which is unfair because CP moderators aren't paid for their time or services.

But outside of just booting people day in a day out, there really isn't an answer because apparently, some people view everything with a political eye, which often causes pure football threads to become political in nature, basically defeating the idea of having a Lounge for football/sports and a DC for politics.


I'd be all for abolishing the DC because the overwhelming majority of those people rarely even bother participating in the Lounge (or the other forums), so their contributions would not be missed.

The real problem with abolishing the DC is that not only would the Lounge need to be heavily moderated 24/7, it would likely take months of heavy moderation and most likely, dozens of bannings in order for those people to stop with the political talk and even then, it would be a challenge to moderate on a daily basis.

This guy gets it.

Don’t let it avoid your notice that I wasn’t the snarky instigator here.

I don’t think we should have separated DC from the Lounge. The process that was used was rotten too. I’ve long ago accepted that it will never go back. I very occasionally bring it up and maybe give a brief explanation about why I think it was a bad decision, but I don’t make a big deal about it.

You can reply or not reply to my posts. I’ll know it if you do and I don’t care about the reasons if you don’t.

I think anything like that would require a decision to basically just allow the mods to enforce their opinions broadly and let the rules all be be fuzzy guidelines. That can work in some communities, but it's pretty contrary to how things have always been done around here.

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I pretty much agree with your post, although I wonder if having DC doesn't actually cause more political posts in the Lounge.

I kind of think it probably does. People get used to the shit slinging in DC and naturally carry that style over to the Lounge.

To be fair though, all of this started with 88 spewing nonsense, and he tends to do that regardless of the topic.

There's only one solution:

https://64.media.tumblr.com/02d891b3...o2_r1_500.gifv

As has been pointed out already....88 in a user name tells you all you need to know.:D

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The word "politics" is getting thrown around loosely. In this thread the conversation of covid began to take over Sturgis but that doesnt necessarily mean it is politics......or at least party politics which is what destroys threads. However social issues are the topic of the nation and everything gets sucked into it. NBA, MLB and the NFL have opened their arms to making social justice a priority. Every sports board in the country is experiencing a spike in social issue talk or as some say "politics". I believe it impossible to eliminate this wondering of ideas and disagreements from many threads but civility can be controlled. If names are getting called or personal insults then ship it off to DC otherwise keep it civil or move on.

Truth. And they will let you know too.

there would be a revolt if mods were allowed to “mod” on their opinions.
The current societal and government situations are going to have some bleed over into football, fans, games etc that normally would never occur. I pushed the envelope when it first started as much as anyone. But, in my defense I’ve not posted like that for months now.

I disagree. There's no reason for people to bring up politics or their hatred of certain TV channels due their politics in threads about football.

Some knucklehead brought up his hatred of a TV network in the Damien Williams thread, which is completely and utterly unnecessary.

The blatant posts are blatant and IMO, aren't that difficult to spot and require no opinion by the moderator.

Bring up politics = banned from the thread. Seems pretty easy to me.

I guess feel free to do a poll and see if a majority of people want us to ban people for mentioning certain TV channels.

No I'm trying to keep counter-factuals which 100% come from partisan stupidity (like coronahoax) out of the lounge. No one thinks coronavirus is a hoax because of anything but politics. It's a sneaky way of inserting politics w/o directly mentioning politics. Sometimes (but probably not this thread) it's a conscious attempt to get a thread moved to DC where they can swarm it and gum it to death. I'm not even sure if they're being serious or performative about coronahoax. Maybe they don't know either - which basically describes politics in 2020.

patty I used to think you and donger were the same. I didn't agree with either of you on a ton of stuff. But I considered you both to at least be willing to use logic to defend your positions. Somewhere along the line donger stayed with basic respect for facts - while you took the other fork in the road and went into full blown spin mode. Maybe you should put your amazing argumentative skills to work for good for once - like convincing the coronahoax people they're wrong instead of defending them.

Okay, now you're being obtude, Dude.

The point is that some people either cannot or will not separate sports from their political beliefs and it's becoming more and more prevalent in the Lounge with each passing day.

If you want to sit back and make snarky remarks, go for it, but I thought that we were having a rational conversation.

Apparently, I was wrong.

To be fair, a thread about Sturgis in August 2020 is going to really be about covid, which of course has a ton of political weight attached. There is plenty of room for legitimate debate about whether Sturgis is really that dangerous or not.

But "lol you idiots the whole thing is a hoax, stop living in fear pussies" is not one of those legitimate positions. It's a bad-faith tactic to gunk up the thread and drown out sensible discussion imo. Or it's just performative trolling nonsense.

This place has pretty much always been ruled by the majority. I don't think what you're suggesting is something that the majority wants. You are welcome to prove me wrong.

I don't know how that's being obtuse.

And all of a sudden this turned into the Star board from 20 years ago

Those were good times.

Yeah, that's when you start relying on mod opinion to figure out if stupidity is politically motivated or not.

I'd personally ban 88 forever because he's too stupid to be on the internet, whether it's on purpose or not.... but, we've never banned people purely out of idiocy.

I've booted him from a thread or three because he opinion spams for attention, but I really don't know if the bullshit he's spewing is politically motivated or not. I'm well aware that some of the shit he spews has become political, but it just goes back to where you would draw the lines of whether people are trying to insert their political perspective.

And like BRC said, there's just so much shit these days that tie in politics with sports... and do we ban every person who uses the acronym SJW or slyly (or not so much) inserts their opinion of Covid or BLM or whatever, etc, etc... it would be exhausting and most likely not add an equally significant value to the Lounge.

to me, it only seems fair that people inject politics into sport or whatever, considering sports has brought politics into its bubble. not to mention the fact that there are no 'real sports' to talk about in this current climate. Some here whinge just as much if not more than some of the SJW crowd. :D

ouch

How many people in this thread even ride?

KCdumbass88 is one of the dumbest posters on the entire board. It takes work to be that reeruned.

And he roots for the fifth best football program in the state of Florida. LOL he's a loser all around.

I once got a postcard from them bragging "3rd best MBA program in southern Florida!"

Not the southeast.

Not Florida.

Southern Florida. LMAO



And KU has the greatest football program in 66044.

Who are these coronahoax people you think I’m defending. I’ve never called coronavirus a hoax.

It’s not surprising that Donger’s heel turn appeals to your sense of Trump badness.

They're proud of being almost relevant that's for sure.

Screw that crap. Fire these people into the sun. I wouldn't feel the least bit sorry. Dude compared COVID to peanut allergies the other day. That is willfully ignorant and dangerous and just flat out trolling to get a rise out of people.

That's why we created a DC forum to contain all the people who've let their brains be rotted by politics.

The kind of scum that post there regularly (BEP) don't have a single thought cross their mind that isn't polluted by politics.

A lot of people in this country have. It's why we're in the shape we're in. Food allergies kill like 150-200 people a year, and we have to sit here and try to fact correct people who compare it to a virus that has killed 160k in 6 months. I mean you might as well just blow the whole damn forum up because that kind of "conversation" adds zero value to anything.

Politics isn't even having values anymore. It's taking a position opposite someone else so you can just troll them.

It's even gotten to be more of a cesspool this last year or two. Seems to be several new posters there that contribute nothing positive to CP. They tend to be the kind that believe and perpetuate any wacked out conspiracy theory put forth by "their side'. The more despicable the better.

You're just as guilty as anyone you twit. Want me to go thru the covid thread and point it out?

Hey ****stick, you like running around behind my posts and licking my ass?

You go right ahead, give it your best shot.

It’s funny. I agree with the sentiment of this post but would apply it to the opposite argument.

But I’m really curious why it’s being discussed in this thread. Is this the new CP, Alex sucks in every thread? No escape. Gotta talk about the Rona everywhere now.

GTFO with it please

The thread is only here because it was bumped to bring up the COVID angle. Should have been a new thread, but no one starts threads anymore it seems.

It’s a little before 2020

No shit? I didn’t notice it was bumped..............................................

Since this is the new DC lounge lite and best place to discuss the Rona


I wonder, when was the first US Rona case?

What is the us population?

What is the number of “confirmed” cases of the Rona in the US?

What again is the number of Rona Deaths in the US?


Can we get a few mathematicians in here to explain the findings?

This is what I was responding to. There are some of us that knew when the DC forum was built that was where to take political discussion to not affect the lounge. If everyone followed the rules it wouldn't be an issue.

You're part of the cesspool that is infecting the lounge. There are others on the other side of the spectrum as well but don't pretend you aren't part of the problem.

Come on, no one? So many full of opinions. From it a hoax it it’s the worst thing ever!


I’ll help best I can;

Some say first case was November 2019, some say feb 2020. Either way, more than 6 months.

Us population; some say around 320 million, some say 340 million. But not accounted are visitors, legally or not. So it should be easy to assume the population is probably well over 340 million. But for simple math, we’ll just say 300 million.


Confirmed cases? Under 6 million, per the cdc; right now. Not taking into account the duplicates or possible false positives: Let’s round up to 6 million anyway. For simple math. Since it’s half way through the year, let’s make that “2% of the us population”, 4%, if you’re inclined to to believe the fear mongering media. In one year’ time we POSSIBLY face 4% of the US population contracting this horrible virus. That’s a reasonable projection that is more likely false than positive.

Confirmed deaths; under 200,000 (under 168,000). If that number continues on the above assumptions, we face the projection of 400,000 deaths in “one year” of this pandemic. Pretty close to 1% survival rating even with the liberties of the numbers.

So, recap; 2-3% of the us population (give or take .9%) in one years time gets the virus. And around 1% (give or take about .5%) could die in a one year time period.

Without a vaccine, But it’s imperative we wear masks and vote by mail and small family owned businesses stay closed while Walmart stays open. And protesting cops is good but protesting Rona regulations are bad. Funerals for said bad cops actions are ok. but going to grandma’s funeral is bad.


I agree it’s not a hoax. It is worse than the “regular” flu. And may be almost as bad as the H1N1 or may be slightly worse. But it’s most certainly being used to push agendas and propaganda. During an election year. When a non politician is creating waves on both sides of the party lines.

But thinking wearing a mask in your own car, by yourself, is the new normal. And thinking opposite of masks, and Rona fear, and political polarizing in every form of media outlooks; is the stupid take in all of this.......

Ok, dudes...............

I have no answer other than take the precautions you deem necessary in your situation. I wear a mask for the benefit of others, whether or not it makes a difference.

It was move in day for USD and unfortunately I had to stop at Hy-Vee. All the old people were wearing masks and maybe 50% of the young students moving in. We're just going to make it through it at this point. Can't stop the planet from spinning.

I’d worry more on the cleaning of their hands and items most touched by other hands, than any mask.

But. Pray tell, what mask were you wearing? the others wearing? all properly worn? or was it just simpleton compliance, with no other thoughts on the matter?


Oh, I see..... it doesn’t matter if the mask works or not.

Spot on. But no matter how many facts and logic you bring lots of people here will still call you a coronahoaxer. If you don't agree with the world-is-doomed outlook they've been spoonfed from the media you're just a conspiracy theorist in their eyes.

You make a very good point here

How do you keep politics out of a discussion when EVERYTHING is political now? Just as you say with sports, it wasn’t the fans that brought politics into it... it was the athletes and the media

Buying a goddamn can of Goya beans has somehow become a political act, there IS no keeping politics out of anything these days

And all the braying about “DC people” rings hollow when coming from some of you - looking at you Stummpy - everyone to the right of you is a Trumptard, so save your bitching for someone who gives a shit

99.96% survivability chance for Rona.

"Sensible discussion", or "just performative trolling nonsense"? You decide.

LMAO Dong the truth teller, yeah you’re not biased at all

And yet again, another originally interesting thread that now goes into the ignore file.

The football season cannot get here soon enough.:banghead:

There. I fixed it so it's now a proper Deberg thread. You guys can now safely un-ignore the thread that no one has posted in for 7 years.