I hope Andy gives him a shot sometime this year when we have a game in hand where the line of scrimmage is our side of the 50.

Who gives a crap what some twitter rando says, why is this a thread?

Phew. That's.....far.

I mean that's 11 yards further back. Looks like that ball was snapped right from the Charger 40, doesn't it? Seems like the official scorer said from the 41 but in either event, a ball that he kicked the ever loving shit out of that traveled as true as you'll ever see that kind of kick travel....I STILL don't think it cleared by 10 yards.

Guy says he can do it at 70 and has in practice, but man - I don't think the one he drilled yesterday is good from that far and I'm just not sure how much harder/cleaner he can kick a ball.

That was just nuts on.

One of my favorite highlights was when the Raiders tried a 76 yarder with Janikowski. Didn't come close, but it was completely ridiculous and hilarious because everyone is lined up 12 miles away from the field goal camera.

Well...I mean...we all learned something.

Evidently Townsend does utilize a ball marker and evidently they are legal.

So this thread has been a hell of a lot more informative than most of 'em.

Let Mecca have this one. He doesn't get a lot of dubs...

It protects the grass from Butker's nuts digging a trench on his swing.

Wow.

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One of the strongest legs in NFL history and he didn't make it to the end zone. He's probably 15 yards short on that one - hard to believe he got as much of it as he's capable of. Kicking into the wind probably didn't help much.

What dumb ass STs coach said "yeah, he can hit that?" Like, we know every game what Butker's capable of going either direction because he and Toub go out there, kick the hell out of a few balls and see what they do.

There's no WAY Janikowksi was nailing 'em from 76 heading that direction in warm-ups. What a stupid waste of time and I wish it would've been returned just to make the Raiders look like the unprepared assholes they are.

I dunno, dude's a rookie, maybe they have him using one until he is accurate enough without it. It's a ball marker, nothing more. Maybe he should just use a Sharpie next time to allay any suspicions...

Side note - are we sure that Tommy Townsend actually has a strong leg?

Like, I read a lot about the new hotness rookie punter and this booming leg he has, but he's had the chance to really uncork a couple and so far he's hit one for 55 that had no loft to it at all and and another one that was, what, 44 with some actual hang?

I was going to expect/ignore a handful of touchbacks more than normal because he's young and placing them isn't easy. But I figured we'd make a little up on the back end w/ a dude that has Jack Fox's leg out there (because Fox, when we had him in camp, was capable of bombing the shit out of them).

For a dude that has a leg that's supposed to be able to flip the field, I haven't seen any real thunder in it at all. A flat 55 yarder or 45 with arc is really damn average.

Hopefully he's just getting his timing down or something because he ain't very good right now.

All that hair is causing too much excess drag.

LMAO Pretty much. I laugh every time I see that when the camera cuts to the field goal view and both teams are clear on the other side of the Raiders logo. That has to be one of goofiest things a team has ever done. I can't imagine what possessed them to even try it.

Lane Kiffin

Ooooh, I like that. I think that could very well happen at some point. With no rush he could kick it lower and longer.

Cuz they knew Jafattass could heave it, but he'd never complete it. They figured "This would be epic if Janikowski makes it, and if he doesn't, oh well..."

Janikowski shared his GHB

I think in college Jan Stenerud attempted a 90 yard field goal or something like that. I don't remember the reason, but I think under some old college rules it was basically a live-ball punt and Stenerud could kick it further than the punter.

The mystery is solved!! Trippy saga.

It's like he patted the turf as in thanking the Football God's for it going through. It's probably a kicker holders superstition to thank the Football God's.

Jankowski was so out of shape he was probably gassed on his approach to the kick.

Really bizarre. The way he picked it up, feels like he placed something. Do I care? Not particularly. Just don't do it again. Did he do this on the previous 2 game winners? I don't think he did. So why that one time?

Here's an old SI article about Stenerud that mentions the field goal attempt made with the ball placed three-yards deep in his own endzone, a 113-yard attempt. https://vault.si.com/vault/1968/11/0...a-strange-game
(In college, the goal posts had been "in the back" of the end zone since 1927. The NFL didn't move them there until 1974.) The article doesn't say what the rules were for a missed field goal. Even today, a field goal attempt can be recovered and returned within the field of play, but maybe in the old days, the field goal attempt was treated more or less like a punt, so missing one wasn't as bad for the kicking team, in terms of where the opponent gets to take over the ball as the current rules make it.

There's an interesting rule in NFL and high school football regarding fair catches, where a team that has just made a "fair catch" can execute a free kick (either as a punt or as a place kick) that can yield a 3-point Field Goal. The nice thing about it is that the defense has to start 10 yards away, so it yields a nice little advantage to a team like the Chiefs that has a terrific placekicker like Harrison Butker. We might end up winning a game one day because of that rule. :)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_catch_kick

This girl live near you?

He popped his hand down to get up.

ant man

Why "don't do it again"?

Is it illegal to mark a spot? Only thing I see is that tee's are against to rules in assisting field goal kicks. I don't see shit about marking where you want to place the ball.

I tend to agree, but if anyone was to get screwed on semantics it would be the Chiefs. Did he sit the ball on the marker? Then you could probably argue it was a tee even though we all know something the size of a dime isn't going to do anything to help your kick.

Well for one we dont know what exactly it was he used to mark the spot.

The dude asking what he picked up specifically @'d Pat McAfee and he pretty much said its a nothing burger. He said he never used anything but many around the league do.

Think I'll take the word of a 2x Pro Bowl punter and holder for Adam Vinatieri over a college punter.

We have a similar odd rule in high school here, if you miss a field goal but it goes into the end zone it’s a touchback for the other team. Actually works out pretty well because if you miss a long field goal the other team gets it at the 20 instead of the spot of the kick.

I have it on good authority that Townsend used a four-leaf clover to spot the ball, which is why he picked it and kept it. Luck of the Irish and all.

Correct iirc as the story was Lane Kiffin did the 76 yard field goal as a bit F U to Al Davis because Al would call down plays that he wanted the coach to call even if it wasn't in the game plan. Al would call for deep pass plays over ride his coaches play call. Al Davis liked to under mind his coaches.

I always dreamed that if we won the Super Bowl, these sorts of things would be CP's biggest arguments.

One of Townsend's barrettes popped out and he was simply picking up to put back in his hair.

https://blog.thelonghairs.us/wp-cont...right-side.jpg

Yes, that's the standard rule for high school football (per the National Federation of State High School Associations (NFHS) Rules of High School Football), which I think Alaska and everywhere else except Texas uses. Texas uses the NCAA rules. I think historically the current high school rule was the original standard, but the NCAA and the NFL departed from it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touchback

It was an invisible feather that only Townsend could see from an Angel that lifted the ball and carried it through the uprights. Lost its feather after the third time. Football God's were on our side after the no call helmet to helmet on Sammie Watkins.

I'm so old I can remember when kickers used to use a tee on FG's. But a ref was right there and that wasn't a tee. Maybe a dime. :)

What's really bizarre is that we're gonna pretend like there isn't video of the dude using a marker and that an NFL holder didn't flat out say that some people use 'em, some don't. It's clearly something that happens in the NFL.

I mean c'mon fellas - this seems pretty settled doesn't it?

The kid uses some kind of little marker to identify where he's gonna place the ball. He picked it up after the kick. There's nothing illegal, nefarious or untoward about it.

We had a thread on CP where we all LEARNED something. That never happens. Why can't we just take the win here and move on?

With some of the replies I see on this site, it makes me wonder if a lot of people just read the OP and then post their reply without reading anymore of the thread.

nice find.

Add another 18 yards onto that kick and straighten up the angle a lot, and it would have been good.

Trying to get stickum off his hands.

We really are the new dynasty.