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Looked pretty normal from what I saw of him in the game tonight.
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Jerry West and the Clippers are in some serious shit about Kawhi, it seems.
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Harden situation finally boiling over. Houston trying to trade him today.
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And it's done. Headed to Brooklyn.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Reporting w/ <a href="https://twitter.com/ramonashelburne?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RamonaShelburne</a>: Brooklyn’s acquiring James Harden in a three-way deal with Cleveland. Caris LeVert, Dante Exum, Rodions Kurucs, four 1st round picks – including Cavs’ 2022 first via Bucks -- and 4 Nets pick swaps to Rockets. Jarrett Allen, Taurean Prince to Cavs. <a href="https://t.co/qM0ZDH4dH3">https://t.co/qM0ZDH4dH3</a></p>— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) <a href="https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1349464741882814466?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 13, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Didn't even get Kyrie. Wow
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That is just an awful trade IMO.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Indiana Pacers are moving Victor Oladipo to the Rockets for package around Caris LeVert, sources tell <a href="https://twitter.com/TheAthleticNBA?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheAthleticNBA</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/Stadium?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Stadium</a>.</p>— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1349465741347721216?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 13, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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NBA is such a joke of a league. These players are such pathetic divas, it must make guys like Jordan and Magic puke in their mouths. |
LMAO Rockets probably won the trade by letting Kyrie stay there. That much crazy in one locker room will blow up just in time for those picks to be actually worth something.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Rockets are expanding the deal to send Caris LeVert to the Pacers for Victor Oladipo, sources tell ESPN.</p>— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) <a href="https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1349466633530712067?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 13, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources: Full current trade:<br><br>Rockets: Victor Oladipo, Dante Exum, Rodions Kurucs, 3 BKN first-rounders (22, 24, 26), 1 MIL first (22, unprotected), 4 BKN 1st round swaps (21, 23, 25, 27) <br><br>Nets: James Harden<br><br>Pacers: Caris LeVert, 2nd-rounder<br><br>Cavs: Jarrett Allen, Taurean Prince</p>— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1349467665631490050?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 13, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nets offense: <a href="https://t.co/n2KsDlyoNz">pic.twitter.com/n2KsDlyoNz</a></p>— Wami (@WamiWaynwiedWo) <a href="https://twitter.com/WamiWaynwiedWo/status/1349464831858978829?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 13, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Isn't Oladipo an expiring contract?
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">All four first-round picks and all four first-round pick swaps to the Rockets are unprotected, sources tell <a href="https://twitter.com/TheAthleticNBA?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheAthleticNBA</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/Stadium?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Stadium</a>. <a href="https://t.co/HdiUsvjPP7">https://t.co/HdiUsvjPP7</a></p>— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1349468417292701698?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 13, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Man, the Rockets did really well.
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Have to wonder if Kyrie has been going apeshit recently just do the Rockets wouldn't trade for him.
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The ****?
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Brooklyn Nets were always interested in acquiring James Harden but the deal became imperative in light of the situation with Kyrie Irving. <br><br>Kyrie is willing to sit out the year if need be those close to him are saying.</p>— Jason Dumas (@JDumasReports) <a href="https://twitter.com/JDumasReports/status/1349472090294947842?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 13, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
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Apparently he's really upset about Steve Nash being the coach.
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I’m kind of interested in what the Cavs added. They started off 3-0 then have pretty much been without Love, Sexton, Garland, and Okoro since. Plus Porter Jr hasn’t played at al yet this year... those are all pretty much their best players other than Drummond.
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Assuming Kyrie Irving doesn't retire to become a social justice warrior and/or walk the earth like Caine in Kung Fu, the Nets essentially have a title on lock for as long as those three want to play together.
Sucks for LeBron and the rest of the league, but that's a super team that simply won't be beaten. At least he got the one last year. |
Also, the Rockets got virtually nothing for as good a player as James Harden is. He did make the situation untenable though with his behavior.
If Simmons was truly being offered up by Philly, it also does make me wonder whether the owner stepped in to stop that trade and go with the Nets instead out of a distaste for the way Morey exited. Simmons alone just about beats out the Nets package. |
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The NBA is a joke of a league.
Kyrie Irving just decides not to show up to work for weeks on end and nobody seems to care? Imagine if Kelce just decided he wasn't going to play and went AWOL for weeks on end. He would get lambasted by the media and would become unsignable. James Harden lets himself get as fat as Jon Gruden and whines about his situation in Houston, and teams bend over backwards to make a deal to send him to a contender. No accountability whatsoever in the Association. Ownership needs to grow some ****ing balls. |
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It's just an absurd trade from a value perspective that in all likelihood ruins the competitive balance of the league for a few years similar to Durant's signing with the Warriors (again assuming that Kyrie Irving is actually interested in playing basketball). It's hard to believe the other teams couldn't have offered up more than this. |
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Brooklyn has 3 open spots available.<br><br>The Nets have their $5.7M tax ML, the minimum exception and likely a $5.7M Disabled Player exception. <a href="https://t.co/w92QwNtJYp">https://t.co/w92QwNtJYp</a></p>— Bobby Marks (@BobbyMarks42) <a href="https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1349471598101864452?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 13, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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You were rooting for Kawhi to LA though. Deal with it. |
LMAO Houston wanted Simmons, Thybulle, Maxey, and picks. Philly wouldn't give them what they wanted so probably traded him to Brooklyn out of spite.
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There's no denying this is what that is, though. |
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But I am guessing they made this trade because Kyrie isn't coming back. |
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These players are getting away w way too much. You sign a contract you have an obligation to the organization and your teammates to do your best to help the team win. You don't like the organization then don't sign the ****ing contract in the first place. Go some where else! After you sign that contract there should be no way a player can 'demand' a trade wout severe consequences. Just retire and go play golf.. |
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These teams hire and fire GM's and coaches constantly, leaving players that have signed long term deals stuck with shitty ****ing teams. It's ****ing ridiculous that people like you comment on a league in which you have absolutely zero knowledge. |
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And Harden sucks now? LMAO JFC, you're ****ing moron. |
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Then, Harden threw a hissy fit and demanded that Paul be shipped out. So the organization obliged and traded him for Russell Westbrook. That also predictably failed and they shipped him out. Everything Houston has done the last 8 years has been dedicated to building a championship contender around James Harden as the centerpiece. They invested heavily in him and gave him everything he wanted. The reality is that James Harden is not a winner and wasn't capable of being "the guy" on a championship team. So instead of taking personal accountability for the Rockets' failures, he cried and blamed the organization and whined his way all the way to a super team. Players in this league are entitled babies. The product on the floor is great, but the majority of the superstar players are dicks and wusses who are impossible to root for. |
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Who cares if Nets are willing to trade for his ballhogging ass! You act like Nets have been winning so many championships lately and are an elite organzation. They are trash themselves. |
Harden is one of the best offensive players to ever play the game. He's more than worth his contract. LMAO
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Duh. |
Yeah, that's ****ing ridiculous. Even the mid tier stars get max money nowadays.
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Just don't understand how the Rockets managed to trade Harden without getting a single even borderline elite player back.
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The Lakers are still the heavy favorite. Chemistry is quite real and may take some time to develop. You have to remember the original super team couldn't even beat basically a 1 man team in 2011.
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Brooklyn now has +270 odds to win the NBA Championship, ranking second in the NBA behind only the Los Angeles Lakers (+260) |
**** Harden.
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As a Sixers fan I was rooting for us to trade Simmons for Harden as him and Embiid would have been fun to watch...but when reports today suggested that the Rox wanted Ben AND our new potential superstar star Tyrese Maxey along with picks?!!..i was out. Maxey could be another Harden, Dame, Mitchell type of dude in the years to come and there was no way Morey would have done that deal. The East is gonna be a nightmare now with Harden, KD and Kyrie together but can that team defend? I have my doubts. My Sixers will probably try to develop our young core or maybe try and trade for Beal or Levine.
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LMAO I'd give this current iteration of the Nets moren of a chance to become a legitimate three ring circus than make it to the NBA finals.
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Anybody who doesn't realize what this team is doesn't have a clue. Durant/Curry/Klay is the only thing even close to that trio in NBA history. There's a pretty good argument they're already the best team in the NBA even if Kyrie Irving doesn't buy in, but if he does, it's game over. |
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Besides, Curry was an absolutely dreadful defender who teams exposed repeatedly in the playoffs and it didn't matter at all because of the KD Warriors' immense offensive talent. The Nets arguably are even better in that regard as Kyrie can do so much more off the dribble than Klay ever could. |
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I don't think most people have ever fully grasped how good James Harden is. With help from CP3, he almost knocked off the Durant Warriors (likely the most dominant team in NBA history) and would have done so had CP3 not gotten hurt. No other NBA team even came close to that and that was mostly because Harden is absolutely unstoppable as an offensive player.
He will win a title playing with Durant and it's going to happen whether Irving decides to give a shit or not. |
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And yes, my only hope for the future of the league (i.e. LeBron's future) is that Kyrie doesn't want to play anymore and Durant starts hating Harden's guts within a year or two. But championships tend to smooth things like that over and the Nets will almost certainly be winning one this year. |
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Nets have title or failure like Brady. Anything less is a fail.
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These things take awhile to get going. Plus. The lakers are ****ing good. |
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I'll take my chances with that over 36 year old LeBron, AD, and some scrubs. |
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Harden also already did play w Durant and Westbrook and they didn't win shit. Yes he has gotten much better since then but we will see how he plays w Irving. Harden is a a ballhog who doesnt play D. Great scorer yes and unstoppable at times but defense still matters in this league and they have no bench. Who knows if Durant stays healthy. Lots of question marks there. Either way league is becoming a joke w all these players constantly leaving. Getting a little ridiculous.. |
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The Nets are ridiculously good right now. |
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I hadn't followed the Kyrie thing. That dude might actually be crazy. I also didn't follow the Harden thing really closely and how he absolutely quit...and you know that he gained weight...THIS WEEK. FWIW, I listened to the Russillo podcast about it today. It's a good listen. I'd recommend it. He had on Bill Simmons and Jackie McMullen (Who I normally don't like but she was really good today. None of those guys thought it would work. I mean, it can work, but there is a lot of stuff that has to go right, and frankly, probably won't. The big thing is personalities, which we've been over, although one thing I haven't seen mentioned is Harden has been THE ONLY GUY taking shots in crunch time for 8 years. That's a tough game to break. What I didn't realize, is that Durant, to date, has almost the same usage rate as Kyrie, who's is ridiculously high, but both are less than historic Harden. They're productive, but they can't all be historically productive together, because, well, there is a time limit. Again, it CAN go right, but a lot has to go right. |
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