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MahomesMagic 01-06-2021 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15447918)
And despite Daboll's changes, Allen still needed almost a whole season to "get" it.

If he goes to Houston, with Watson, he's going to have carte blanche to go back to his old offense and force it on Watson. The good news for Watson is that he's already familiar with those concept because he's been playing in an E/P offense already.

The bad news for Watson is that Daboll's version of the offense is terrible and the only time he's actually been decent is when he was forced to change the offense to specifically fit the QB.

Well, Watson and Allen are completely different QB's. So if he just makes Watson run the old Patriots offense, yes, he would fail.

I would think he would create something based on Watson which is great athleticism and lots of deep shots downfield.

The big issue here is Easterby/Caserio. I would not want to walk into that toxic environment.

htismaqe 01-06-2021 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 15447938)
Well, Watson and Allen are completely different QB's. So if he just makes Watson run the old Patriots offense, yes, he would fail.

I would think he would create something based on Watson which is great athleticism and lots of deep shots downfield.

The big issue here is Easterby/Caserio. I would not want to walk into that toxic environment.

Why would he tailor an offense for Watson? Watson is a prototypical 2020 QB. He doesn't have the limitations that a guy like Allen has. Daboll only tailored the Bills offense because he HAD to.

As HC of the Texans, working for Caserio, the same checks and balances aren't in place. These guys have HUGE egos. I can totally see him coming in there and expecting Watson to run Daboll's offense the way it is, and only customizing it once things start to go wrong.

O.city 01-06-2021 10:55 AM

Some idiot franchises never learn

Oh well, one less franchise Qb to have to worry about

MahomesMagic 01-06-2021 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15447949)
Why would he tailor an offense for Watson? Watson is a prototypical 2020 QB. He doesn't have the limitations that a guy like Allen has. Daboll only tailored the Bills offense because he HAD to.

As HC of the Texans, working for Caserio, the same checks and balances aren't in place. These guys have HUGE egos. I can totally see him coming in there and expecting Watson to run Daboll's offense the way it is, and only customizing it once things start to go wrong.


The NFL never stops amazing me. So if Daboll got promoted to HC based on what he did with Allen and his own mental lesson was not "Mold the offense to fit your QB" then he will be dead man walking.

Watson has elite traits and tools that are different than other QB's. To max out Watson the two guys I thought would be a good fit were Bienemy and Daboll.

Bienemy because Chiefs offense now has lots of attacking vertical concepts that he could tinker with.

Daboll because he would realize he needs 2-3 vertical threats on the field at all times for Watson.

Mecca 01-06-2021 11:00 AM

It's gonna be awesome when they trade JJ Watt for a 3 you know like Pioli did to Tony G.

htismaqe 01-06-2021 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 15447965)
The NFL never stops amazing me. So if Daboll got promoted to HC based on what he did with Allen and his own mental lesson was not "Mold the offense to fit your QB" then he will be dead man walking.

Watson has elite traits and tools that are different than other QB's. To max out Watson the two guys I thought would be a good fit were Bienemy and Daboll.

Bienemy because Chiefs offense now has lots of attacking vertical concepts that he could tinker with.

Daboll because he would realize he needs 2-3 vertical threats on the field at all times for Watson.

The E/P offense that Daboll runs CAN feature those vertical threats. In a lot of ways, it depends on the QB. The Patriots offense was much more aggressive in the middle of Brady's tenure, when he was comfortable with the offense but not old. The real problem is that Daboll just isn't good at in-game adjustments and adding wrinkles.

He literally had to make a Josh Allen offense - it's not really even Daboll's offense anymore - to make it work in Buffalo. We'll see if he's willing to do that as a HC but I have my doubts. We've seen way too many of these guys stubbornly refuse when given this type of chance.

htismaqe 01-06-2021 11:06 AM

Keep in mind too that Houston's current offense (and the one they had under BOB) is the same base system as Daboll's.

Watson should be able to step right in. The question is whether or not Daboll can elevate the offense to an elite level. Maybe Watson can do it in spite of Daboll.

Easy 6 01-06-2021 11:19 AM

That Texans HC job just became a joke, even with Watson still around

Did they bother to study that horribly talent depleted New England team before deciding to hire their director of player personnel?

Mecca 01-06-2021 11:40 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/8dF0B1c8TA">https://t.co/8dF0B1c8TA</a> <a href="https://t.co/mRsObHRj6J">pic.twitter.com/mRsObHRj6J</a></p>&mdash; Brett Kollmann (@BrettKollmann) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrettKollmann/status/1346634588995551234?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 6, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Patriots have drafted literally one Pro Bowler in the last seven years and it&#39;s a ****ing PUNTER and their team fell apart the second Tom Brady left to go play on a better built roster...but sure yeah let&#39;s keep trying to mimic them down in Houston.<br><br>We&#39;re god damn BRILLIANT.</p>&mdash; Brett Kollmann (@BrettKollmann) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrettKollmann/status/1346636863088410624?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 6, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="sv" dir="ltr">SLJKJNFGLKSDHFJKDFSN BJKSDBVCSFD KBN SD;LFVVNSDFLK;JVJADKL BFLKDSM VLKASNCDSFMV;LASnc;lsdnvkmsdanclmsdnvladsnfkl;jnsdv;knckl;jnsdf;lgnasljkf;ldsgnlksdamf;ldsanlkcfvsnd m;lfvc <a href="https://t.co/Kac1W0G2QJ">https://t.co/Kac1W0G2QJ</a></p>&mdash; Brett Kollmann (@BrettKollmann) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrettKollmann/status/1346640667645153280?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 6, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Look, I&#39;m not mad about the Caserio hire in a vacuum. I&#39;m sure he can find talent just fine.<br><br>I&#39;m mad that his hire ensures that Jack Easterby stays in the organization. THAT is the part I despise.</p>&mdash; Brett Kollmann (@BrettKollmann) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrettKollmann/status/1346649260448575489?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 6, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We failed him <a href="https://t.co/cqCcOoQGxC">https://t.co/cqCcOoQGxC</a></p>&mdash; Brett Kollmann (@BrettKollmann) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrettKollmann/status/1346712548771573761?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 6, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Brett is not having a good day.

dirk digler 01-06-2021 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 15448015)
That Texans HC job just became a joke, even with Watson still around

Did they bother to study that horribly talent depleted New England team before deciding to hire their director of player personnel?

I don't know if Nick is smart\good or not but I don't think anyone else knows either because Bill makes all the decisions.

History shows though he will probably suck like all the others.

Chris Meck 01-06-2021 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15447972)
It's gonna be awesome when they trade JJ Watt for a 3 you know like Pioli did to Tony G.

I'd take that deal.

Bird in the hand and all that.

front four rotation would be deadly.

Easy 6 01-06-2021 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 15448082)
I don't know if Nick is smart\good or not but I don't think anyone else knows either because Bill makes all the decisions.

History shows though he will probably suck like all the others.

Yeah, Bill has final say but this guy surely had a hand in guiding all those terrible personnel decisions... I'm pretty sure we can write them off as legit AFC competition now

htismaqe 01-06-2021 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15448055)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Look, I&#39;m not mad about the Caserio hire in a vacuum. I&#39;m sure he can find talent just fine.<br><br>I&#39;m mad that his hire ensures that Jack Easterby stays in the organization. THAT is the part I despise.</p>&mdash; Brett Kollmann (@BrettKollmann) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrettKollmann/status/1346649260448575489?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 6, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Brett must not be very astute.

We've known for MONTHS that Jack Easterby was not only going to be part of the organization but part of the team hiring the GM. Surely Brett knew this too.

This is PRECISELY why some of us have been writing off the Texans HC job since the day BOB was fired.

Deberg_1990 01-07-2021 09:39 AM

There is growing buzz that Watson will demand a trade.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There&#39;s a growing buzz in league circles that Deshaun Watson could ask to be traded, and his new contract doesn&#39;t make that as difficult as you&#39;d think <a href="https://t.co/wvY5BxQZRq">https://t.co/wvY5BxQZRq</a></p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1347196011056402438?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 7, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

wazu 01-07-2021 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15452096)
There is growing buzz that Watson will demand a trade.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There&#39;s a growing buzz in league circles that Deshaun Watson could ask to be traded, and his new contract doesn&#39;t make that as difficult as you&#39;d think <a href="https://t.co/wvY5BxQZRq">https://t.co/wvY5BxQZRq</a></p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1347196011056402438?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 7, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That trade better be with Jacksonville.

CasselGotPeedOn 01-07-2021 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15452096)
There is growing buzz that Watson will demand a trade.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There&#39;s a growing buzz in league circles that Deshaun Watson could ask to be traded, and his new contract doesn&#39;t make that as difficult as you&#39;d think <a href="https://t.co/wvY5BxQZRq">https://t.co/wvY5BxQZRq</a></p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1347196011056402438?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 7, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Not surprising. BOB killed that franchise for the foreseeable future, and Cal McNair pissed on it's rotting corpse by hiring bat boy to run things.

-King- 01-07-2021 10:03 AM

Texans would never trade him but if they did, the bidding war between the 49ers, Bears, and Washington would be crazy.

MahomesMagic 01-07-2021 10:06 AM

Houston trade Watson and hire Josh Mcdaniels and call it a day.

RunKC 01-07-2021 11:14 AM

Shit someone beat me to it.

I think this is going to happen

RunKC 01-07-2021 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15452159)
Texans would never trade him but if they did, the bidding war between the 49ers, Bears, and Washington would be crazy.

Broncos too

staylor26 01-07-2021 11:17 AM

What HC is going to want to come to Houston and turn around and trade Watson?

It’s not happening. At least not now.

wazu 01-07-2021 11:23 AM

So four months ago Watson signed a huge extension through 2025 for a ton of money. Since then all that's really happened is O'Brien was fired (would think good thing), and a GM hired (also probably beats no GM)...and he's demanding a trade? Don't get it. Do blame him.

Mecca 01-07-2021 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 15452426)
So four months ago Watson signed a huge extension through 2025 for a ton of money. Since then all that's really happened is O'Brien was fired (would think good thing), and a GM hired (also probably beats no GM)...and he's demanding a trade? Don't get it. Do blame him.

They hired another NE stooge...he literally tweeted out "some things never change"

RunKC 01-07-2021 11:26 AM

I feel like Sean Payton would be at the front of the lien trying any way possible to make this trade happen.

Got the team, need a QB. Vikings would be so good for him too but they can’t get out of Kirk’s awful contract until 2022

CasselGotPeedOn 01-07-2021 11:29 AM

I feel like an under the radar team would be the Dolphins. They have the picks and a solid team already in place.

Sassy Squatch 01-07-2021 11:33 AM

You'd have over half the league scrambling all over themselves if he's actually available for trade.

staylor26 01-07-2021 11:37 AM

99% of big trades happen out of conference.

If it happens, it will be an NFC team.

Sassy Squatch 01-07-2021 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15452476)
99% of big trades happen out of conference.

If it happens, it will be an NFC team.

Can't say I'd be too sorry to see him go. Not too long ago the Texans were the clear #3 in the conference behind the Chiefs and the Ravens.

wazu 01-07-2021 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15452438)
They hired another NE stooge...he literally tweeted out "some things never change"

He signed that extension while still playing for an "NE stooge" who had just traded Hopkins this past offseason, as well as destroying the future of the team with a half dozen other moves. How has the situation gotten any worse? If anything it's better.

Sassy Squatch 01-07-2021 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 15452484)
He signed that extension while still playing for an "NE stooge" who had just traded Hopkins this past offseason, as well as destroying the future of the team with a half dozen other moves. How has the situation gotten any worse? If anything it's better.

McNair put on appearances of hiring a search firm to find his next GM. Caserio wasn't even on the list he was presented. He STILL went with Easterbys bullshit after floating to the media that he had no real power. I don't feel sorry for Watson here but dude may have been sold a bill of goods that the next regime would be different to get him to stay.

staylor26 01-07-2021 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15452483)
Can't say I'd be too sorry to see him go. Not too long ago the Texans were the clear #3 in the conference behind the Chiefs and the Ravens.

Yea, in the end, a trade would likely be a good thing for the AFC. There’s a clear imbalance of talented young QB’s between the conferences too, so it would be good for the league in general.

But I don’t think it’s happening this soon.

Sassy Squatch 01-07-2021 11:56 AM

Houston sports still aren't done paying for that Astros Karma LMAO Both Harden and Watson want out.

wazu 01-07-2021 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15452504)
McNair put on appearances of hiring a search firm to find his next GM. Caserio wasn't even on the list he was presented. He STILL went with Easterbys bullshit after floating to the media that he had no real power. I don't feel sorry for Watson here but dude may have been sold a bill of goods that the next regime would be different to get him to stay.

It's possible that he was lied to, yes. But if he cared this much about who the Texans were going to hire as their next GM, maybe best course would have been to hold off on signing that extension.

Mecca 01-07-2021 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15452504)
McNair put on appearances of hiring a search firm to find his next GM. Caserio wasn't even on the list he was presented. He STILL went with Easterbys bullshit after floating to the media that he had no real power. I don't feel sorry for Watson here but dude may have been sold a bill of goods that the next regime would be different to get him to stay.

He also told them Bienemy was a dude he wanted to be his coach, they are the only team with an opening to not interview him.

carcosa 01-07-2021 12:56 PM

Maybe they could trade him to the Dolphins for the #3 pick!

wazu 01-07-2021 01:00 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If I’m Saints , 49ers or even Chicago...... I’m all in on this Watson news....</p>&mdash; Tyrann Mathieu (@Mathieu_Era) <a href="https://twitter.com/Mathieu_Era/status/1347242945313959937?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 7, 2021</a></blockquote>
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CasselGotPeedOn 01-07-2021 01:01 PM

Tua and the 3rd pick for Watson? I feel like it would still take at least another high pick though.

Buehler445 01-07-2021 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 15452772)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If I’m Saints , 49ers or even Chicago...... I’m all in on this Watson news....</p>&mdash; Tyrann Mathieu (@Mathieu_Era) <a href="https://twitter.com/Mathieu_Era/status/1347242945313959937?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 7, 2021</a></blockquote>
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Pretty much everybody but

KC
LAC
BUF
BAL
CLE
CIN
TN
SE
ARI

Everybody else should be at least figuring out what they can put together. Miami trading their picks back would be all-time hilarious.

Sassy Squatch 01-07-2021 01:13 PM

Watson has a no trade clause so he could tell them to **** off if they send him to a shitty team. It'd be an ultimate bitch move to do that while demanding a trade though.

Deberg_1990 01-07-2021 01:15 PM

Watson to DC would make that team an instant super bowl favorite

Mecca 01-07-2021 01:15 PM

Guy who covers the Texans is saying to ignore it and no way it happens.

htismaqe 01-07-2021 01:16 PM

HB just wanting him out of the AFC.

Deberg_1990 01-07-2021 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15452408)
What HC is going to want to come to Houston and turn around and trade Watson?

It’s not happening. At least not now.

‘Next in line’ Patriot Way stooge.

CasselGotPeedOn 01-07-2021 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15452811)
Watson has a no trade clause so he could tell them to **** off if they send him to a shitty team. It'd be an ultimate bitch move to do that while demanding a trade though.

No it wouldn't. He's not trying to leave a shitty situation for another one.

staylor26 01-07-2021 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15452828)
‘Next in line’ Patriot Way stooge.

Even Patriot stooges know you don’t trade away a franchise QB with nobody else in place or in reach.

If the Texans still had their #3 overall pick, I’d entertain this, but they don’t.

Sassy Squatch 01-07-2021 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15452818)
Guy who covers the Texans is saying to ignore it and no way it happens.

It's totally dependant on how uncomfortable Watson is willing to make the situation.

Coochie liquor 01-07-2021 01:25 PM

Watson on the Saints would be ****ing sick!

CasselGotPeedOn 01-07-2021 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15452839)
Even Patriot stooges know you don’t trade away a franchise QB with nobody else in place or in reach.

If the Texans still had their #3 overall pick, I’d entertain this, but they don’t.

It doesn't matter if they don't want to trade him, the last thing you want is a disgruntled franchise Qb. We'll see if he actually wants out or not.

ChiefBlueCFC 01-07-2021 01:37 PM

Deberg lickin his chops thinking about the Chiefs trading Mahomes to Houston for Watson

Deberg_1990 01-07-2021 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15452839)
Even Patriot stooges know you don’t trade away a franchise QB with nobody else in place or in reach.

If the Texans still had their #3 overall pick, I’d entertain this, but they don’t.

I remember McDaniels trading away Cutler in Denver (at the time considered a franchise QB)

Sassy Squatch 01-07-2021 01:46 PM

LMAO Mangini can be a pretty effective troll

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;(Mangini) believes the Houston <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Texans</a> job is Josh McDaniels&#39; to lose and that both Adam Gase and Matt Patricia could be brought in to guide the offensive and defensive units.&quot;<a href="https://t.co/ItawH4luP8">https://t.co/ItawH4luP8</a></p>&mdash; Greg Rajan (@GregRajan) <a href="https://twitter.com/GregRajan/status/1347233086514278400?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 7, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Deberg_1990 01-07-2021 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15452913)
LMAO Mangini can be a pretty effective troll

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;(Mangini) believes the Houston <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Texans</a> job is Josh McDaniels&#39; to lose and that both Adam Gase and Matt Patricia could be brought in to guide the offensive and defensive units.&quot;<a href="https://t.co/ItawH4luP8">https://t.co/ItawH4luP8</a></p>&mdash; Greg Rajan (@GregRajan) <a href="https://twitter.com/GregRajan/status/1347233086514278400?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 7, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hahah. All 10 Texans fans will kill themselves if that happens.

wazu 01-07-2021 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 15452872)
It doesn't matter if they don't want to trade him, the last thing you want is a disgruntled franchise Qb. We'll see if he actually wants out or not.

More likely we'll just see more passive aggressive tweets and hear things leaked through teammates.

RealSNR 01-07-2021 01:58 PM

Watson doesn't fit the Patriot Way. He's never been kissed by Tom Brady on the lips or verbally abused by Belichick, so there's no way Houston can ever win a Super Bowl with Watson.

Trade him to San Francisco. Swap Janeane Garafalo for Watson, and make San Francisco throw in a 2nd and 4th rounder or whatever it was Arizona did when they sent David Johnson over there for Deandre Hopkins.

The Houston Patriots get a pure-blooded Patriot to lead the "right 53" AND get back some much needed draft stock! I don't see how this can't be a rousing success for them!

Now if everybody just does their job, they'll be winning Super Bowls in no time!

htismaqe 01-07-2021 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15452913)
LMAO Mangini can be a pretty effective troll

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;(Mangini) believes the Houston <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Texans</a> job is Josh McDaniels&#39; to lose and that both Adam Gase and Matt Patricia could be brought in to guide the offensive and defensive units.&quot;<a href="https://t.co/ItawH4luP8">https://t.co/ItawH4luP8</a></p>&mdash; Greg Rajan (@GregRajan) <a href="https://twitter.com/GregRajan/status/1347233086514278400?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 7, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ROFL

Pasta Little Brioni 01-07-2021 02:29 PM

Gase has done nothing in his career other than being Mannings stooge for a bit. Dude made that clown ALOT of money. Mc D looks like shit without Brady. Patricia doesn't have Beli to hold his hand.
Super group my ass.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 01-07-2021 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15452913)
LMAO Mangini can be a pretty effective troll

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;(Mangini) believes the Houston <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Texans</a> job is Josh McDaniels&#39; to lose and that both Adam Gase and Matt Patricia could be brought in to guide the offensive and defensive units.&quot;<a href="https://t.co/ItawH4luP8">https://t.co/ItawH4luP8</a></p>&mdash; Greg Rajan (@GregRajan) <a href="https://twitter.com/GregRajan/status/1347233086514278400?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 7, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Chargers front office sending Herbert jerseys to Houston. The carpetbaggers!

wazu 01-07-2021 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 15453084)
Gase has done nothing in his career other than being Mannings stooge for a bit. Dude made that clown ALOT of money. Mc D looks like shit without Brady. Patricia doesn't have Beli to hold his hand.
Super group my ass.

Yes but that was before Belichick agreed to show McDaniel's his "world".

The Franchise 01-07-2021 05:45 PM

Washington needs to make this happen.

Sassy Squatch 01-07-2021 05:49 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">From the six teams with head coach openings, the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Texans</a> are the only ones not to interview or request to interview <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/49ers?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#49ers</a> DC Robert Saleh and <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> OC Eric Bieniemy. Unless I&#39;m missing something, that just doesn&#39;t make much sense. It doesn&#39;t cost you anything to talk to them.</p>&mdash; NFL Update (@MySportsUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1347325701368721411?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 7, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

chiefzilla1501 01-07-2021 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15453864)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">From the six teams with head coach openings, the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Texans</a> are the only ones not to interview or request to interview <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/49ers?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#49ers</a> DC Robert Saleh and <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> OC Eric Bieniemy. Unless I&#39;m missing something, that just doesn&#39;t make much sense. It doesn&#39;t cost you anything to talk to them.</p>&mdash; NFL Update (@MySportsUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1347325701368721411?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 7, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Remember when Clark hunt initiated a head coach search and he pulled in Andy Reid and Pioli was pushing Kirk ferentz? This tree shit is so damn embarrassing.

RunKC 01-07-2021 06:26 PM

He’s definitely going to ask for a trade

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Texans</a> QB Deshaun Watson is extremely unhappy with the organization after owner Cal McNair informed him he would be involved in the GM and coach hiring process and provide feedback… but then did neither in the hire of GM Nick Caserio, sources say.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1347335681278935042?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

staylor26 01-07-2021 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15454019)
He’s definitely going to ask for a trade

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Texans</a> QB Deshaun Watson is extremely unhappy with the organization after owner Cal McNair informed him he would be involved in the GM and coach hiring process and provide feedback… but then did neither in the hire of GM Nick Caserio, sources say.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1347335681278935042?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He can ask for one all he wants.

Unless he’s willing to let it get very ugly, he has no leverage.

Again, what HC is going to sign up for that job then turn around and trade Watson in a year where they don’t even have their 1st round pick?

Deberg_1990 01-07-2021 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15454028)
He can ask for one all he wants.

Unless he’s willing to let it get very ugly, he has no leverage.

Again, what HC is going to sign up for that job then turn around and trade Watson in a year where they don’t even have their 1st round pick?

I guess he can hold out and lose money? Like RBs do

Sassy Squatch 01-07-2021 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15454028)
He can ask for one all he wants.

Unless he’s willing to let it get very ugly, he has no leverage.

Again, what HC is going to sign up for that job then turn around and trade Watson in a year where they don’t even have their 1st round pick?

Or go the other way and demand he start over by buying out Caserio and firing Easterby. ****ish behavior but if he's really that torn up about it you're going to have to be unpleasant to get your way.

RunKC 01-07-2021 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15454028)
He can ask for one all he wants.

Unless he’s willing to let it get very ugly, he has no leverage.

Again, what HC is going to sign up for that job then turn around and trade Watson in a year where they don’t even have their 1st round pick?

Cal McNair should have thought about that before ****ing over their biggest star and most valuable player. That’s complete insanity.

Watson can pull a Carson Palmer and threaten to retire. Again no coach should want to go to that hell hole after what they just did.

Watson has already made a shit ton of money from his signing bonus and can also threaten to sit out next year if he’s not traded. I know I would.

Sassy Squatch 01-07-2021 06:35 PM

Houston is going to have a shitty time regardless now that it's been made public the owner lied to his franchise player. There's no getting that toothpaste back into the tube

pugsnotdrugs19 01-07-2021 06:36 PM

Please get him out of the AFC.

We’ve got enough good young quarterbacks to deal with.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-07-2021 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15454041)
Or go the other way and demand he start over by buying out Caserio and firing Easterby. ****ish behavior but if he's really that torn up about it you're going to have to be unpleasant to get your way.

ROFL That's not happening

Sassy Squatch 01-07-2021 06:39 PM

Watson offered his input on potential general manager candidates, but the Texans neither considered nor consulted with those endorsed by their franchise quarterback, league sources told ESPN.

Additionally, the Texans did not inform Watson that they intended to hire Caserio, and he found out about the hire on social media. That contributed to Watson taking to Twitter that night to post "some things never change...."

Watson's feelings were not directed toward Caserio, sources told ESPN, but instead were indicative of the way business was again conducted by the Texans.

Last offseason, Houston didn't let Watson know that star wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins would be traded, which led to some disappointment. Now that it has happened again, Watson is said to be infinitely more bothered, sources told ESPN.

wazu 01-07-2021 06:42 PM

Has anybody ever even heard of a player being involved in the hiring of a GM? That's a ridiculous thing to promise or expect.

CasselGotPeedOn 01-07-2021 06:43 PM

Elway is gonna get wasted and accidentally trade 4 1st round picks for Deshone Kizer

Sassy Squatch 01-07-2021 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 15454073)
Has anybody ever even heard of a player being involved in the hiring of a GM? That's a ridiculous thing to promise or expect.

I'm guessing that was promised during extension negotiations.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-07-2021 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15453847)
Washington needs to make this happen.

If their DL is locked up, that’s an NFC favorite.

Deberg_1990 01-07-2021 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15454068)
Watson offered his input on potential general manager candidates, but the Texans neither considered nor consulted with those endorsed by their franchise quarterback, league sources told ESPN.

Additionally, the Texans did not inform Watson that they intended to hire Caserio, and he found out about the hire on social media. That contributed to Watson taking to Twitter that night to post "some things never change...."

Watson's feelings were not directed toward Caserio, sources told ESPN, but instead were indicative of the way business was again conducted by the Texans.

Last offseason, Houston didn't let Watson know that star wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins would be traded, which led to some disappointment. Now that it has happened again, Watson is said to be infinitely more bothered, sources told ESPN.


It always starts with Shitty ownership. I have know idea why Easterbys still around?? The McNairs suck.

Thank god we have Clark.

tredadda 01-07-2021 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 15454141)
If their DL is locked up, that’s an NFC favorite.

Definitely. They are a pretty talented team outside of the QB position.

boilertiger 01-07-2021 07:57 PM

best match for Watson might be Dolphins?

Could give up Tua and give Houston their #3 pick back which would be crap your pants funny.

boilertiger 01-07-2021 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15454028)
He can ask for one all he wants.

Unless he’s willing to let it get very ugly, he has no leverage.

Again, what HC is going to sign up for that job then turn around and trade Watson in a year where they don’t even have their 1st round pick?

He has plenty of leverage. Houston is trash without him and the fanbase will melt down if they trade him.

McNair is dumb.

Hoover 01-07-2021 08:13 PM

Stunning how you can **** up a team after having Watson and Hopkins in place....

Mecca 01-07-2021 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 15454073)
Has anybody ever even heard of a player being involved in the hiring of a GM? That's a ridiculous thing to promise or expect.

Lots of times franchise players have input especially if they're going to move someone.

Or at least the courtesy to let them know before it's on ESPN.


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