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DaFace 01-13-2021 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15473765)
So Andy or some coach actually said that Sammy didn't practice because of that calf injury today after practice?

This is all I'm getting at. Do we have an actual statement from a coach about the reason Watkins didn't practice today, or are we just guessing based on the fact that Watkins left the NOR game(?) because of a strained calf?

If we do have a statement I would really appreciate a link, please.

He was a DNP for Chargers week with a calf injury. So unless something happened off the field since then, that's the issue.

https://www.chiefs.com/team/injury-report/

SupDock 01-13-2021 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15473710)
Dude is done.

Day to day?

****. He's done for

dirk digler 01-13-2021 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15473765)
So Andy or some coach actually said that Sammy didn't practice because of that calf injury today after practice?

This is all I'm getting at. Do we have an actual statement from a coach about the reason Watkins didn't practice today, or are we just guessing based on the fact that Watkins left the NOR game(?) because of a strained calf?

If we do have a statement I would really appreciate a link, please.

No Reid just said Watkins didn't practice but the injury report will be out shortly. Week 17 he didn't practice because of his calf so the assumption is this is the same today.

htismaqe 01-13-2021 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 15473767)
Watkins may stay in KC this offseason, though.

Nobody is going to offer him money, and we may be able to keep him for pennies.

No amount of money is worth it for a guy that might play 6 or 7 games a season.

Megatron96 01-13-2021 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15473797)
No amount of money is worth it for a guy that might play 6 or 7 games a season.

10.

htismaqe 01-13-2021 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15473810)
10.

Not enough.

ForeverIowan 01-13-2021 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15473617)
OBJ? Wth? Are we talking about the guy that is sitting in bed right now because he blew up his leg?

The guy that couldn't get open all season before he hurt his leg?

The guy that takes plays off, doesn't block, talks shit constantly, about his own team and coaches if you don't force-feed him the ball?

That OBJ?

Hard pass.

Thats the one. Listen, if Sammy balls out in the playoffs forget it and bring him back for a 3 peat. If not, time to freaking move on. I'll throw the dice on an OBJ with something to prove if the contract is right. Cant be any worse in regards to availability than Sammy that past several years. If not, like I said, draft Watkins' replacement in the first round. Keep surrounding Pat with weapons.

All of that being said, Watkins better freaking be ready to go Sunday.

Sassy Squatch 01-13-2021 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 15473823)
Thats the one. Listen, if Sammy balls out in the playoffs forget it and bring him back for a 3 peat. If not, time to freaking move on. I'll throw the dice on an OBJ with something to prove if the contract is right. Cant be any worse in regards to availability than Sammy that past several years. If not, like I said, draft Watkins' replacement in the first round. Keep surrounding Pat with weapons.

All of that being said, Watkins better freaking be ready to go Sunday.

Watkins has played in 34 games the past 3 years. OBJ has played in 35.

Megatron96 01-13-2021 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15473821)
Not enough.

I agree that Sammy needs to be on the field more, period.

But let's at least be factual. Sammy has played 34 out of a possible 47 regular season games for KC since becoming a Chief. And played 5 out of 5 playoff games.

So it's more accurate to say that Sammy played (including playoffs) 12 games in his first year as a Chief, 15 in his second, and we'll see here in his third.

And in those playoff games, he's amassed 24 catches, for 464 yds, 1 TD, for 19.3 yds/catch. He averages just under 100 yds/game in the playoffs on just 4.8 catches/game, and catches 71% of the passes thrown at him.

And really, that's why he's here. Not to amass regular season numbers, but to put up those kinds of numbers in the playoffs, in the biggest games, against the best defenses in the league. I don't actually care how many catches he gets against DEN in week 6 or whatever.

But yeah, this year was disappointing so far as Sammy was concerned, in the regular season. It wasn't all his fault, but he missed 6 games, period.

EDIT: Sammy has 476 yds in the playoffs as a Chief.

Megatron96 01-13-2021 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 15473823)
Thats the one. Listen, if Sammy balls out in the playoffs forget it and bring him back for a 3 peat. If not, time to freaking move on. I'll throw the dice on an OBJ with something to prove if the contract is right. Cant be any worse in regards to availability than Sammy that past several years. If not, like I said, draft Watkins' replacement in the first round. Keep surrounding Pat with weapons.

All of that being said, Watkins better freaking be ready to go Sunday.

Okay, I guess. But even skipping the part where OBJ hasn't played in anymore games than Sammy over the last couple years, OBJ hasn't even played up to his average over that span. And he's not even a good substitute for what Sammy does in KC's offense. He isn't a good run-blocker, he isn't a physically impressive receiver, he's not a good improv player, and he's basically the opposite of a team-first player.

OBJ caught just 54% of passes thrown at him over the last two seasons. Sammy caught nearly 64%. Basically if you force-fed Sammy the ball, he'd out-produce OBJ by several hundred yards/season.

Please explain why Andy would want to see OBJ in Chiefs' red, because I really don't get it.

dirk digler 01-13-2021 03:39 PM

Injury report is out

https://www.chiefs.com/news/division...iefs-vs-browns

Watkins Calf DNP

O.city 01-13-2021 03:40 PM

Sammy won't play. If you can't practice after 2 weeks off, you won't be ready in a couple day.s

Good god what a disappointment.

comochiefsfan 01-13-2021 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 15474016)
Injury report is out

https://www.chiefs.com/news/division...iefs-vs-browns

Watkins Calf DNP

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/69052637.jpg

DaFace 01-13-2021 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 15474016)
Injury report is out

https://www.chiefs.com/news/division...iefs-vs-browns

Watkins Calf DNP

Tyreek's not on the list at all. That's good to see.

comochiefsfan 01-13-2021 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 15473602)
Unless he goes off in the playoffs you've got to think we part ways. OBJ or a first rounder for his replacement please.

The absolute last thing this locker room needs is Odell Beckham Jr.

Not just no, but **** no.

crispystl 01-13-2021 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15474021)
Sammy won't play. If you can't practice after 2 weeks off, you won't be ready in a couple day.s

Good god what a disappointment.


Damn that was my first thought too. I hope we’re wrong.


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dirk digler 01-13-2021 03:47 PM

Is there an easy way to embed that because copying and pasting doesn't format right

DaFace 01-13-2021 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 15474062)
Is there an easy way to embed that because copying and pasting doesn't format right

From Twitter? You click the dots in the upper-right to get the embed code.

Not really any easy way to do it with a random web page like the injury report.

EDIT: I usually just wait until someone does the hard work for us.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> vs <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Browns?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Browns</a> injury report - Wednesday <a href="https://t.co/A1YFEHAtjZ">pic.twitter.com/A1YFEHAtjZ</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1349476279687524357?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 13, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ForeverIowan 01-13-2021 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15473992)
Okay, I guess. But even skipping the part where OBJ hasn't played in anymore games than Sammy over the last couple years, OBJ hasn't even played up to his average over that span. And he's not even a good substitute for what Sammy does in KC's offense. He isn't a good run-blocker, he isn't a physically impressive receiver, he's not a good improv player, and he's basically the opposite of a team-first player.

OBJ caught just 54% of passes thrown at him over the last two season. Sammy caught nearly 64%. Basically if you force-fed Sammy the ball, he'd out-produce OBJ by several hundred yards/season.

Please explain why Andy would want to see OBJ in Chiefs' red, because I really don't get it.

There will be plenty of time to discuss offseason roster moves. I hope Sammy goes wild in the playoffs and he's back next year.

That being said, there is more than one way to skin a cat. Reid has engineered this offense to maximize the skill set of his players. I agree Watkins and OBJ have very different strengths. Rosters change and Reid is one of the best offensive minds ever. He will tailor his offense accordingly.

You wana compare completion percentage to a guy playing with Patrick Mahomes and has Andy Reid dialing up the plays as compared to Baker Mayfield and a total mess of an organization in the Browns? Cmon.

Hopefully the next three games go according to script and Watkins does work. If not, I'm just saying I think OBJ could be a name on the board. Itd be nice to use our high draft picks to continue to get younger and faster on defense in lieu of spending another 1st on a skill position player.

OKchiefs 01-13-2021 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15474021)
Sammy won't play. If you can't practice after 2 weeks off, you won't be ready in a couple day.s

Good god what a disappointment.

Relax. It's the first practice of the week. There's plenty of times throughout the season where injured players don't practice to start the week but get a walkthrough in by Friday and are able to play on Sunday.

Megatron96 01-13-2021 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 15474096)
There will be plenty of time to discuss offseason roster moves. I hope Sammy goes wild in the playoffs and he's back next year.

That being said, there is more than one way to skin a cat. Reid has engineered this offense to maximize the skill set of his players. I agree Watkins and OBJ have very different strengths. Rosters change and Reid is one of the best offensive minds ever. He will tailor his offense accordingly.

You wana compare completion percentage to a guy playing with Patrick Mahomes and has Andy Reid dialing up the plays as compared to Baker Mayfield and a total mess of an organization in the Browns? Cmon.

Hopefully the next three games go according to script and Watkins does work. If not, I'm just saying I think OBJ could be a name on the board. Itd be nice to use our high draft picks to continue to get younger and faster on defense in lieu of spending another 1st on a skill position player.

No, you're right. We shouldn't run down this rabbit hole right now.

Btw, you can actually look at the entirety of their respective careers, OBJ with NYG/CLE, vs. Sammy with BUF/LAR/KC, and Sammy is still the better receiver, in catch%, yds/cth, even games started. And Sammy had Tyrod Taylor, EJ Manuel and K. Orton throwing to him for most of his time in BUF.

But I'm good with putting this aside for now.

Why Not? 01-13-2021 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonka83 (Post 15473702)
Watkins is quickly approaching Eric Berry territory.

I missed the play Berry made to clinch our AFC Championship and the huge play he made to fuel our SB comeback. But, otherwise.....sure.

staylor26 01-13-2021 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15474021)
Sammy won't play. If you can't practice after 2 weeks off, you won't be ready in a couple day.s

Good god what a disappointment.

Lol it’s Wednesday dude.

If he’s not practicing tomorrow and Friday then sure, but DNP on Wednesday means nothing regardless of whether it’s been a couple weeks or not.

ForeverIowan 01-13-2021 04:18 PM

[QUOTE=Megatron96;15474147]No, you're right. We shouldn't run down this rabbit hole right now.

Btw, you can actually look at the entirety of their respective careers, OBJ with NYG/CLE, vs. Sammy with BUF/LAR/KC, and Sammy is still the better receiver, in catch%, yds/cth, even games started. And Sammy had Tyrod Taylor, EJ Manuel and K. Orton throwing to him for most of his time in BUF.

But I'm good with putting this aside for now.[/QUOTE

I hear ya. I'm not necessarily saying I think OBJ is the better receiver. That's debatable. I'm just saying if this season goes south you have to make some changes to the roster and invigorate some energy into that locker room. Id think WR2 would potentially be the first place they look considering the contract situation there.

Sammy is gonna wreck shit yet again in the playoffs. I love where we stand. Moot point at the moment.

Kman34 01-13-2021 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15474021)
Sammy won't play. If you can't practice after 2 weeks off, you won't be ready in a couple day.s

Good god what a disappointment.

SFC.. He’ll play...

htismaqe 01-13-2021 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 15474096)
There will be plenty of time to discuss offseason roster moves. I hope Sammy goes wild in the playoffs and he's back next year.

That being said, there is more than one way to skin a cat. Reid has engineered this offense to maximize the skill set of his players. I agree Watkins and OBJ have very different strengths. Rosters change and Reid is one of the best offensive minds ever. He will tailor his offense accordingly.

You wana compare completion percentage to a guy playing with Patrick Mahomes and has Andy Reid dialing up the plays as compared to Baker Mayfield and a total mess of an organization in the Browns? Cmon.

Hopefully the next three games go according to script and Watkins does work. If not, I'm just saying I think OBJ could be a name on the board. Itd be nice to use our high draft picks to continue to get younger and faster on defense in lieu of spending another 1st on a skill position player.

Unfortunately, Watkins and OBJ have the same weakness. Inability to stay healthy.

We need guys that can be on the field. Period.

htismaqe 01-13-2021 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15473855)
I agree that Sammy needs to be on the field more, period.

But let's at least be factual. Sammy has played 34 out of a possible 47 regular season games for KC since becoming a Chief. And played 5 out of 5 playoff games.

So it's more accurate to say that Sammy played (including playoffs) 12 games in his first year as a Chief, 15 in his second, and we'll see here in his third.

And in those playoff games, he's amassed 24 catches, for 464 yds, 1 TD, for 19.3 yds/catch. He averages just under 100 yds/game in the playoffs on just 4.8 catches/game, and catches 71% of the passes thrown at him.

And really, that's why he's here. Not to amass regular season numbers, but to put up those kinds of numbers in the playoffs, in the biggest games, against the best defenses in the league. I don't actually care how many catches he gets against DEN in week 6 or whatever.

But yeah, this year was disappointing so far as Sammy was concerned, in the regular season. It wasn't all his fault, but he missed 6 games, period.

EDIT: Sammy has 476 yds in the playoffs as a Chief.

You can't just say "he'll play in the playoffs" though.

Did Dee Ford not teach people about this? Guys that get banged up all the time eventually are banged up at the wrong time.

You can't keep rolling the dice with a guy like Watkins, eventually he's going to let you down.

Megatron96 01-13-2021 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15474372)
You can't just say "he'll play in the playoffs" though.

Did Dee Ford not teach people about this? Guys that get banged up all the time eventually are banged up at the wrong time.

You can't keep rolling the dice with a guy like Watkins, eventually he's going to let you down.

No, you're right, you can't just assume he'll play in the playoffs. And there's no such thing as a pinch/designated WR. Can't just bring him in for the playoffs, or games you want to have him. Simply can't afford that.

All I was saying is that so far in his Chiefs career, his play in the playoffs has been outstanding. If he could be just a little more consistently available, we'd probably keep him another season, period.

But he hasn't been this season, and I really thought he would be, but it is what it is.

Right now, I just hope he can play, if not in this game, then in the AFCCG and the SB.

After that, it's up to Andy and Veach.

htismaqe 01-13-2021 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15474390)
No, you're right, you can't just assume he'll play in the playoffs. And there's no such thing as a pinch/designated WR. Can't just bring him in for the playoffs, or games you want to have him. Simply can't afford that.

All I was saying is that so far in his Chiefs career, his play in the playoffs has been outstanding. If he could be just a little more consistently available, we'd probably keep him another season, period.

But he hasn't been this season, and I really thought he would be, but it is what it is.

Right now, I just hope he can play, if not in this game, then in the AFCCG and the SB.

After that, it's up to Andy and Veach.

Absolutely agree, especially with the bolded part.

O.city 01-13-2021 06:56 PM

Only way I’d think about Odell is if it were a one year prove it deal

DTVietnam 01-13-2021 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15473493)
I’m so sick of Sammy’s bullshit. I don’t give a **** about what he did before in the playoffs.

He’s not a primary weapon. FFS he’s the ****ing 4th option in this offense. His broke ass is absolutely replaceable.

you watch ur tone when talking about Starship 14:


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="es" dir="ltr">¡LO HACE VER MUY FÁCIL!<br><br>Mahomes conecta con Sammy Watkins para sepultar las esperanzas de los Titans y poner 3 posesiones de ventaja.<br><br>Todo apunta que estarán en Miami.����������<br><br> <a href="https://t.co/PILVa6BiW2">pic.twitter.com/PILVa6BiW2</a></p>&mdash; FantasyFootballMEX (@FantasyMex) <a href="https://twitter.com/FantasyMex/status/1219027036280360961?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sammy Watkins out here bullying Richard Sherman on national television. <a href="https://t.co/EyPAr4pTRk">pic.twitter.com/EyPAr4pTRk</a></p>&mdash; Austin Pendergist (@apthirteen) <a href="https://twitter.com/apthirteen/status/1224162850182025216?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 3, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs again use motion to set up blocks on the edge. Titans shift right into lead blocks for Watkins and Kelce. Titans blitz middle but Hill is just way to fast. Great downfield cut by Kelce. The Chiefs found the weak spot on Tenn&#39;s edge and attacked it. 6 for KC <a href="https://t.co/8J7MC15LOL">pic.twitter.com/8J7MC15LOL</a></p>&mdash; Caleb James (@CJScoobs) <a href="https://twitter.com/CJScoobs/status/1220109315035541505?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 22, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sammy Watkins owning Gilmore. <a href="https://t.co/fMJhEOcnc1">pic.twitter.com/fMJhEOcnc1</a></p>&mdash; ArrowheadGuys (@ArrowheadGuys) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadGuys/status/1204490752925065223?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 10, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


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