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VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 02-08-2021 10:21 PM

Since we need to find a new RB coach this offseason I recommend someone and he’s actually Interested in the job. None other than KCs own Charcandrick West

staylor26 02-08-2021 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 15539763)
I'm honestly going to be far more excited about next season than I ever was about this one. I hate being on top of the mountain - it'll be so much more fun to reclaim that spot than to keep it.

staylor, I'm sure once you go to the gym, do some deadlifts, and then beat up some boomers at an environmental rally, you'll be back to your old self talking football in no time.

(Kidding, buddy. This too shall pass and it would be a pity if any of us really grew tired of watching the Jordan equivalent in his prime.)

I’ll always be excited for the season as long as we have Mahomes, but that’s the kind of loss that makes it hard to get over until TC is starting up and hope is back.

I honestly enjoy the offseason as much as the regular season though. I love the draft and the start of free agency.

The draft in particular is like a constant reminder that we lost. Every time I see a mock draft and that 31st pick I’m going to be sick lol.

BigRedChief 02-08-2021 10:31 PM

Sounds like a front running bandwagon fan.

I know your not, not calling you that, but that’s what it sounds like.

staylor26 02-08-2021 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 15539912)
Sounds like a front running bandwagon fan.

I know your not, not calling you that, but that’s what it sounds like.

No, I’m just very competitive (which admittedly makes me a sore loser) and losing to Tom Brady just makes this one THAT much worse.

Losing a SB? Sucks, but what are we going to do now in free agency and the draft?

Losing a SB to Tom Brady cementing his legacy? Wake me up in September.

Buehler445 02-08-2021 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15539919)
No, I’m just very competitive (which admittedly makes me a sore loser) and losing to Tom Brady just makes this one THAT much worse.

Losing a SB? Sucks, but what are we going to do now in free agency and the draft?

Losing a SB to Tom Brady cementing his legacy? Wake me up in September.

My recommendation is turn off all sports media for awhile. Sister****ers like Skip Bayless and Stephen A Smith will just stir it up on you. Get some time away, you'll be back.

Pants 02-08-2021 10:59 PM

Not at all.

We still have a literal god under center.

Sucks we lost a shitty Super Bowl, but, my goodness, I'm a ****ing Chiefs fan who had to live through the 2003 no defense team, the Herm Edwards, Scott Pioli, Todd Haley, and Romeo Crennel years.

I have had to subject myself to watching Damon "Fetal Position" Huard, Brodie "Air" Croyle, Tyler "Skeleton ****er" Thigpen, Matt "Casshole" Cassel, Tyler "Todd Haley's Rebellion" Palko, Kyle "Nobody Wants Me" Orton, and BRADY ****ING QUINN as the starting quarterbacks.

I have had to endure countless shitty drafts that sent me into the depths of despair.

I'm sorry, but being in 3 consecutive AFC championships, hosting 2 of them and making it to back to back Bowls while winning one? I'm happy as a mother****er when I take a step back and look around.

Losing to the Bucs sucked. Losing in the fashion the Chiefs did sucked even worse. Having to hear the ****tarded GOAT takes and Tom Brady for eternity sucks the worst.

Yes, we got worked by the refs, but we also saw Mahomes' godlike heart on full display (and I hope we never see it like this again).

Oh, and we also still have Veach in charge of the roster.

I think maybe there's a little bit of room optimism here.

ShortRoundChief 02-08-2021 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15539919)
No, I’m just very competitive (which admittedly makes me a sore loser) and losing to Tom Brady just makes this one THAT much worse.

Losing a SB? Sucks, but what are we going to do now in free agency and the draft?

Losing a SB to Tom Brady cementing his legacy? Wake me up in September.

Competition doesn't make you a sore loser. Narcissism does. Competitors understand in the game of sport, there is a winner and a loser. Sometimes your one or the other, but denying a loss because you don't think that it can happen to you isn't the hallmark of a "competitor" it's the hallmark of a sore loser.

Megatron96 02-09-2021 12:27 AM

No.

But the bitter whining by some CPers just might. There's morons here that are so deluded they think that somehow STs cost us the game. Or that it's the coaching staff's fault that we only signed 10 OLs to the team. Or that Andy trying to get our offense the ball back at the end of the first half somehow lost the game.

Probably the same dumbasses that bemoaned Andy not being aggressive enough a few weeks ago. Probably the same dipshits that never want to see Patrick execute another QB sneak because of a freak accident.

Petty little wretches deserve this loss more than anyone. Just wish they weren't fair-weather fans of the Chiefs, tbh. Let 'em go whine for the Raiders or the Jets. At least they'd have good reason to piss and moan.

ShortRoundChief 02-09-2021 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15540021)
No.

But the bitter whining by some CPers just might. There's morons here that are so deluded they think that somehow STs cost us the game. Or that it's the coaching staff's fault that we only signed 10 OLs to the team. Or that Andy trying to get our offense the ball back at the end of the first half somehow lost the game.

Probably the same dumbasses that bemoaned Andy not being aggressive enough a few weeks ago. Probably the same dipshits that never want to see Patrick execute another QB sneak because of a freak accident.

Petty little wretches deserve this loss more than anyone. Just wish they weren't fair-weather fans of the Chiefs, tbh. Let 'em go whine for the Raiders or the Jets. At least they'd have good reason to piss and moan.

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Ninerfan11 02-09-2021 01:01 AM

You guys have the best QB in football, you'll be fine for two decades. Have fun and enjoy it.

ShortRoundChief 02-09-2021 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninerfan11 (Post 15540041)
You guys have the best QB in football, you'll be fine for two decades. Have fun and enjoy it.

Thank you for that non-stupid, non-knee jerk post.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 02-09-2021 01:48 AM

On a unrelated note, Kelce had the most receiving yards ever by a TE in the super bowl

-King- 02-09-2021 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15540021)
No.

But the bitter whining by some CPers just might. There's morons here that are so deluded they think that somehow STs cost us the game. Or that it's the coaching staff's fault that we only signed 10 OLs to the team. Or that Andy trying to get our offense the ball back at the end of the first half somehow lost the game.

Probably the same dumbasses that bemoaned Andy not being aggressive enough a few weeks ago. Probably the same dipshits that never want to see Patrick execute another QB sneak because of a freak accident.

Petty little wretches deserve this loss more than anyone. Just wish they weren't fair-weather fans of the Chiefs, tbh. Let 'em go whine for the Raiders or the Jets. At least they'd have good reason to piss and moan.

Wait, you think calling a timeout when they had 3rd and 2 on their 40 with 40 seconds left was a good idea?

Megatron96 02-09-2021 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15540068)
Wait, you think calling a timeout when they had 3rd and 2 on their 40 with 40 seconds left was a good idea?

I think he was trying to get the ball back for the office with the hope that we could book and a couple of scores between the end of the 1s half and the beginning of the 2nd. You know, try to grab some Momentum.

I think he was rolling the dice, to try and get the team back in the game. Yeah, it was pretty aggressive. And the armchair quarterbacks can now second-guess that decision to their hearts content. With the advantage of 20/20 hindsight.

But in that moment, when he called the Time out, I was all for it. I wanted the opportunity for our offense to get the ball back; because I knew that all we needed was a little break here or a little break there and Patrick could lead them to a score, even with just a few seconds left on the clock.

Because we’ve watched them do it more than a few times over the past three years. Or have All you whiners forgotten that?

It was a high risk/high reward kind of call. Kind of like a Wasp, or the 48 Rose Bowl play. Unfortunately this one didn’t work out.

But since Patrick became the starter, most of these calls have worked out in our favor. And I’ll be absolutely honest, I would rather Andy roll the dice, then the turtle up the way he did sometimes with Alex Smith at the helm.

It’s antithetical to take the conservative way out, when you have the weapons this team has combined with the most talented quarterback the world has ever seen. The whole point of this team is going for it; putting pressure on the other team all the time.

But that also means sometimes you’re not always going to be successful.

I can live with that. Apparently some of you don’t have the balls for it.

Fortunately for Patrick, Reid really does have the balls to make those kinds of calls. And I’ll bet a month’s salary that that will end up translating into more Super Bowl rings then calling it conservative over the next 10 years.

Jerm 02-09-2021 02:11 AM

Eh I usually purge myself of all things Chiefs and NFL until the draft no matter what each year so it’ll be no different this year...just stings more.

-King- 02-09-2021 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15540072)
I think he was trying to get the ball back for the office with the hope that we could book and a couple of scores between the end of the 1s half and the beginning of the 2nd. You know, try to grab some Momentum.

I think he was rolling the dice, to try and get the team back in the game. Yeah, it was pretty aggressive. And the armchair quarterbacks can now second-guess that decision to their hearts content. With the advantage of 20/20 hindsight.

But in that moment, when he called the Time out, I was all for it. I wanted the opportunity for our offense to get the ball back; because I knew that all we needed was a little break here or a little break there and Patrick could lead them to a score, even with just a few seconds left on the clock.

Because we’ve watched them do it more than a few times over the past three years. Or have All you whiners forgotten that?

It was a high risk/high reward kind of call. Kind of like a Wasp, or the 48 Rose Bowl play. Unfortunately this one didn’t work out.

But since Patrick became the starter, most of these calls have worked out in our favor. And I’ll be absolutely honest, I would rather Andy roll the dice, then the turtle up the way he did sometimes with Alex Smith at the helm.

It’s antithetical to take the conservative way out, when you have the weapons this team has combined with the most talented quarterback the world has ever seen. The whole point of this team is going for it; putting pressure on the other team all the time.

But that also means sometimes you’re not always going to be successful.

I can live with that. Apparently some of you don’t have the balls for it.

Fortunately for Patrick, Reid really does have the balls to make those kinds of calls. And I’ll bet a month’s salary that that will end up translating into more Super Bowl rings then calling it conservative over the next 10 years.

No it was dumb as shit. Best case scenario is that we get the ball back with 30 seconds left and 1 timeout. That was the absolute best case scenario. We were hoping Brady who I think at that point had like 80% completion to have an incomplete pass or for Fournette to not be able to get 2 yards. Given that the offense as at that point was amazingly terrible and couldn't protect Mahomes to save their life, there was no upside to it. There was no hope of even getting to field goal position with the way our offense was playing.

You can check the game thread. This isn't a case of hindsight being 20/20. People in the moment knew that was a stupid decision. There's a difference between being aggressive and being stupid. That was stupid.

Baby Lee 02-09-2021 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15540078)
No it was dumb as shit. Best case scenario is that we get the ball back with 30 seconds left and 1 timeout. That was the absolute best case scenario. We were hoping Brady who I think at that point had like 80% completion to have an incomplete pass or for Fournette to not be able to get 2 yards. Given that the offense as at that point was amazingly terrible and couldn't protect Mahomes to save their life, there was no upside to it. There was no hope of even getting to field goal position with the way our offense was playing.

You can check the game thread. This isn't a case of hindsight being 20/20. People in the moment knew that was a stupid decision. There's a difference between being aggressive and being stupid. That was stupid.

In hindsight, it was dumb. But it wasn't blanket dumb. It was dumb because the team wasn't ready to perform explosively that day.

A regularly running 2020 Chiefs team, you call that, get the stop and salvage some last minute points. Or even if you give up the couple yards for the first, you stop them for a couple more plays outside FG range same as if you hadn't called the TO at all.

But this team was off and hampered. They shit the bed on the first stop, then the refs reamed them, then they did again.

You don't play a SB game with our weapons expecting back to back ridiculous PIs to be the consequence of a gamble. Playing to close out the half with our tail between our legs would have sent the message that you have no faith in the team and just want the day over with.

-King- 02-09-2021 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 15540083)
In hindsight, it was dumb. But it wasn't blanket dumb. It was dumb because the team wasn't ready to perform explosively that day.

A regularly running 2020 Chiefs team, you call that, get the stop and salvage some last minute points. Or even if you give up the couple yards for the first, you stop them for a couple more plays outside FG range same as if you hadn't called the TO at all.

But this team was off and hampered. They shit the bed on the first stop, then the refs reamed them, then they did again.

You don't play a SB game with our weapons expecting back to back ridiculous PIs to be the consequence of a gamble. Playing to close out the half with our tail between our legs would have sent the message that you have no faith in the team and just want the day over with.

I didn't mind the first time out. But after the Bucs gained 8 yards on 2nd down and they seemed content to let the clock run down, ****ing let them. Like I said, after that 8 yard gain, the best case scenario was us getting the ball back with 30 seconds left. Now what? You're going to get Pat killed some more before the half trying to run deep plays to hopefully get in field goal position? There was just no upside to that second timeout at all.

cooper barrett 02-09-2021 04:08 AM

The side bets are going to kill me
I have to continue to grow my no- trim beard.
It's a year old now and I look like I should star in the Dukes of Hazard remake.

I have to wear this in public once a week. I don't think people on AZ will notice.

https://i.postimg.cc/kgNqT3zf/RIM-Bl...024-009127.jpg

I did make out on all my bets on post season bets.

So no, It's all good 'till next year.

cooper barrett 02-09-2021 05:22 AM

My side bets are going to kill me in the off season

I have to wear this in public once a week.

https://i.postimg.cc/kgNqT3zf/RIM-Bl...024-009127.jpg..

I have to try to grow my beard to 5.6" as I can't trim my beard again this year. It's about half that now.

DTVietnam 02-09-2021 06:09 AM

yeah...it did for me..

last offseason I watched all the Micd ups, Inside NFLs, re-watched all the games, re-watched the Super bowl like a million times. . . all year long. . up until the season. .

this offseason...ill prob watch the mic'd up once just to see what the **** actually happened. . but then i wont be thinking or watching any chiefs stuff until august (except the draft)

that's the depressing part

Dunerdr 02-09-2021 07:35 AM

No, it sucks catching crap from co-workers as if anyone in the building is more critical of a dog shit performance than i am. But with all the impending free agents, a ****ed up cap, and this defeat, im hopeful takes the next step where he gets Peyton and Bradyesque and just takes over practice and meetings lining guys out. A step towards perfection you could say. Right now theres so many bullshit mental mistakes i dont believe that theyre working for that level of detail.

ChiefsFanatic 02-09-2021 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15539466)
For the first time as a Chiefs fan, I honestly don’t care about free agency or the draft. I’m so ****ing pissed, I honestly want to ignore the NFL for the next few months. No combine or anything only makes that moreso the case.

Maybe I’ll get over it and get excited when we start making moves, but right now I have absolutely no interest in keeping up with everything in the offseason.

Outside of the penalties, the Super Bowl was just an embarrassment. I haven't watched any post game stuff because I don't really want to hear 2013 Andy Reid speak.

Andy Reid did not have the team ready to compete, and he was thoroughly out coached. The two timeouts before the half were ridiculous, and his offensive game plan, and lack of adjustments made me believe that his mind was still in Kansas City with Brit.

Losing sucks, but if we had been competitive, and played anywhere close to our ability, I would not be as upset as I am right now. We didn't look like we belonged on the same field as Tampa Bay. Winning Super Bowl 54 is still sustaining me, because I wasn't sure if I would ever see my team win another Super Bowl, but the way we lost, and the lack of effort by everyone not named Mahomes, has turned me off of football until probably day 1 of the draft.

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RunKC 02-09-2021 08:29 AM

Watched the game again. Guys it wouldn’t have mattered if Fisher was out there. I hate saying that but it’s true.

They wanted it way more than we did.

Sassy Squatch 02-09-2021 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15540206)
Watched the game again. Guys it wouldn’t have mattered if Fisher was out there. I hate saying that but it’s true.

They wanted it way more than we did.

Nah, if Mahomes isn't facing jailbreak blitz levels of pressure every other play while they're rushing 4 with 7 in coverage things go differently.

The Franchise 02-09-2021 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15540206)
Watched the game again. Guys it wouldn’t have mattered if Fisher was out there. I hate saying that but it’s true.

They wanted it way more than we did.

You’re worse than Penbrook sometimes.

redfan 02-09-2021 08:45 AM

The only thing I’m not looking fwd to in the off season is this TB12 media blitz. Gonna have to tune out the NFL at least until draft day.

O.city 02-09-2021 08:59 AM

First post since Sunday.

I find myself not that upset. Hindsight, we were rolling out a god awful OL all the way across the board against that DL. It was obvious, we just dind't wanna see it.

Once we got behind and they knew what was coming, it wasn't gonna matter. You can't win in the league when a whole unit is full of not just backups, but 3rd stringers playing out of position.

It is what it is.

Gary Cooper 02-09-2021 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15540206)
Watched the game again. Guys it wouldn’t have mattered if Fisher was out there. I hate saying that but it’s true.

They wanted it way more than we did.

Why? It's like watching the worst movie ever, and then watching it again two days later.

RunKC 02-09-2021 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15540225)
You’re worse than Penbrook sometimes.

Truth hurts bud

RunKC 02-09-2021 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15540217)
Nah, if Mahomes isn't facing jailbreak blitz levels of pressure every other play while they're rushing 4 with 7 in coverage things go differently.

Yeah man it’s not like the rest of the OL wasn’t getting absolutely butt****ed by their DL. Idc what position Wylie played. He was getting butt****ed at RG all year.

Sammy played roughly 20 snaps aka he was worthless bc he was hurt. Mecole was worthless. Robinson was worthless.
Kelce and Tyreek dropped passes they usually catch.

And then the defense got crushed. The Bucs destroyed their souls running the ball in the 2nd half. Literally did what they wanted until they called off the dogs when it was 31-9.

Almost nobody showed up except for Patrick and Butker.

Pants 02-09-2021 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15540343)
Yeah man it’s not like the rest of the OL wasn’t getting absolutely butt****ed by their DL. Idc what position Wylie played. He was getting butt****ed at RG all year.

Offensive line issues compound exponentially as you replace your starters. When you start to move them around, it just becomes an unmitigated disaster.

An OL unit can take 1 person getting hurt and still work okay with a solid backup. 2 backups is much more difficult but serviceable. When you're rolling out 4 backups AND they have to play out of position, you would get destroyed even by average D Lines.

We faced like a top 3 unit. You saw the result.

Eric Fisher would have absolutely made a huge difference not only because he's so much better than Remmers at LT but also because Remmers would then play RT where he's much better than Remmers at LT.

It's not a difficult concept to understand.

O.city 02-09-2021 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15540343)
Yeah man it’s not like the rest of the OL wasn’t getting absolutely butt****ed by their DL. Idc what position Wylie played. He was getting butt****ed at RG all year.

Sammy played roughly 20 snaps aka he was worthless bc he was hurt. Mecole was worthless. Robinson was worthless.
Kelce and Tyreek dropped passes they usually catch.

And then the defense got crushed. The Bucs destroyed their souls running the ball in the 2nd half. Literally did what they wanted until they called off the dogs when it was 31-9.

Almost nobody showed up except for Patrick and Butker.

When it's jailbreak to your QB, the WR's and stuff just aren't gonna matter. You've gotta have some offensive line.

It's really amazing to me the Chiefs did what they did this year with the OL being what it was.

RedRaider56 02-09-2021 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by redhed (Post 15540239)
The only thing I’m not looking fwd to in the off season is this TB12 media blitz. Gonna have to tune out the NFL at least until draft day.

This..turning my focus towards college basketball.

RunKC 02-09-2021 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15540359)
When it's jailbreak to your QB, the WR's and stuff just aren't gonna matter. You've gotta have some offensive line.

It's really amazing to me the Chiefs did what they did this year with the OL being what it was.

Part of that jailbreak was scheme. I’ll have to find the video but on many plays they’d rush Suh on the RT to cut Patrick off from moving outside the pocket to his right, then JPP went inside on the LT and Barrett just ran around from the right side to the left as they filtered Patrick that way. He got a free rush right in Patrick’s face.

Bowles had a great gameplan. It sucks that we got ****ed but it is what it is.

Now we have to adjust

O.city 02-09-2021 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15540377)
Part of that jailbreak was scheme. I’ll have to find the video but on many plays they’d rush Suh on the RT to cut Patrick off from moving outside the pocket to his right, then JPP went inside on the LT and Barrett just ran around from the right side to the left as they filtered Patrick that way. He got a free rush right in Patrick’s face.

Bowles had a great gameplan. It sucks that we got ****ed but it is what it is.

Now we have to adjust

Sure, gameplan and all. But teams have done that all year.

They were just more talented than we were up there. People are making this out to be more than it is.

The Bucs were able to get tremendous pressure with 4 guys and dropped 7. When you do that, the other team doesn't have a chance.

So yeah, we can adjust by not having 3rd stringers and dudes off the street play G and T.

MahomesMagic 02-09-2021 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 15540357)
Offensive line issues compound exponentially as you replace your starters. When you start to move them around, it just becomes an unmitigated disaster.

An OL unit can take 1 person getting hurt and still work okay with a solid backup. 2 backups is much more difficult but serviceable. When you're rolling out 4 backups AND they have to play out of position, you would get destroyed even by average D Lines.

We faced like a top 3 unit. You saw the result.

Eric Fisher would have absolutely made a huge difference not only because he's so much better than Remmers at LT but also because Remmers would then play RT where he's much better than Remmers at LT.

It's not a difficult concept to understand.

I picture it like Jenga.

We kept removing guys and the structure kept standing.

We pulled out the Fisher block and...

KChiefs1 02-09-2021 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 15539531)
I'll avoid NFL shows for the next eight months so I don't have to listen to show after show after show after show talking about how amazing it was that Brady produced 201 yards of passing offense with another 120 yards in penalties whenever he needed them. I'll start paying attention again in training camp.

I deleted all the programs I usually watch...GMFB, Get Up, PFT, Cowherd, NFL Live & Total Access. When the draft starts getting closer, I'll start watching again.

The Tommy Brady ballwashing is disgusting. I know the guy has more rings than any NFL team now but do I have to hear about it constantly?

I now see where people want the NFL to retire the #12. Seriously?

Frazod 02-09-2021 10:06 AM

Well, let's see. The season ended with the worst lost in years, it's cold as **** outside, and I hate basketball and have zero interest in hockey.

The offseason is kind of self-ruining.

Easy 6 02-09-2021 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 15540391)
I picture it like Jenga.

We kept removing guys and the structure kept standing.

We pulled out the Fisher block and...

Great analogy

Pants 02-09-2021 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 15540391)
I picture it like Jenga.

We kept removing guys and the structure kept standing.

We pulled out the Fisher block and...

Yup. That's perfect.

RunKC 02-09-2021 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 15540391)
I picture it like Jenga.

We kept removing guys and the structure kept standing.

We pulled out the Fisher block and...

It just seemed like we weren’t there mentally. The first error with Mecole on that deep pass, then the second where he wasn’t even looking for the ball on that sideline pass.

Then after that we had a shot for a first down on a great pass but Kelce was open and had an awful drop.

Then the punter dropped the ball.

Then we made some absolutely stupid mistakes like an offsides penalty and Chris Jones being baited.

We were just not there mentally

Pants 02-09-2021 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15540431)
It just seemed like we weren’t there mentally. The first error with Mecole on that deep pass, then the second where he wasn’t even looking for the ball on that sideline pass.

Then after that we had a shot for a first down on a great pass but Kelce was open and had an awful drop.

Then the punter dropped the ball.

Then we made some absolutely stupid mistakes like an offsides penalty and Chris Jones being baited.

We were just not there mentally

It pains me that Mecole is not thriving in an offense where 80% of the defense's effort is spent on 2 other dudes.

MahomesMagic 02-09-2021 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 15540444)
It pains me that Mecole is not thriving in an offense where 80% of the defense's effort is spent on 2 other dudes.

Using route running to gain separation on a DB is a critical skill for WR's.

Mecole just can't be trusted to do it right now.

Pants 02-09-2021 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 15540452)
Using route running to gain separation on a DB is a critical skill for WR's.

Mecole just can't be trusted to do it right now.

He also lacks football IQ/understanding when it comes to adjusting his routes based on the coverage he's [not] seeing.

He's basically a really fast guy with decent hands. We need more football players like Kelce, Reek, and CEH.

MahomesMagic 02-09-2021 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 15540459)
He also lacks football IQ/understanding when it comes to adjusting his routes based on the coverage he's [not] seeing.

He's basically a really fast guy with decent hands. We need more football players like Kelce, Reek, and CEH.

Yup. I was really hoping I was wrong when we passed on Terry McLaurin but Mclaurin is a real #1.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 02-09-2021 10:39 AM

mourning seems very appropriate, several things considered

HC_Chief 02-09-2021 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 15540459)
He also lacks football IQ/understanding...

He's basically a really fast guy...

Yep, he would have been Al Davis' wet dream. A track star pretending to be a receiver.

Gary Cooper 02-09-2021 02:39 PM

Not sure if anyone mentioned this, but this game was similar to another game earlier in the playoffs.

LA demolished Seattle's high powered offense by dominating the line of scrimmage. Russell Wilson had nowhere to go with the football. Didn't have enough time. Couldn't get the ball to his targets.

comochiefsfan 02-09-2021 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15540431)
It just seemed like we weren’t there mentally. The first error with Mecole on that deep pass, then the second where he wasn’t even looking for the ball on that sideline pass.

Then after that we had a shot for a first down on a great pass but Kelce was open and had an awful drop.

Then the punter dropped the ball.

Then we made some absolutely stupid mistakes like an offsides penalty and Chris Jones being baited.

We were just not there mentally

We were a fire breathing dragon in the AFC Title game. We were flying around with swagger and confidence.

That team never showed up for the Super Bowl.

Just really bizarre.

Steron 02-09-2021 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 15539655)
I don't remember once losing it last night during the game. I cursed once or twice at some of screwups and screw overs we did or received but it felt like a slow motion trainwreck from nearly the beginning to end.

I can't remember one time feeling confident we would win. I was very optimistic but most of that relied on unrealistic expectations.

When I saw all the drops, the penalties, the horrid line play, and then the final straw was our punter shanking 25 yard kicks off the side of his foot. I knew we were having no good juju.

I lost it once. I think it was the first quarter when Hardman quit on a route and Mahomes threw it to where he would have been if he kept running. I stopped watching with about 6 minutes left in the first half. Didn't check the score once until the next day. I was a little down but over it now.

Easy 6 02-09-2021 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 15541185)
We were a fire breathing dragon in the AFC Title game. We were flying around with swagger and confidence.

That team never showed up for the Super Bowl.

Just really bizarre.

Its gotta be the Britt Reid thing, nothing else makes much sense IMO

You wouldn't think it'd affect the players to the same degree as Andy, but it seems to have somehow cast a pall over the whole damn team

htismaqe 02-09-2021 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 15541185)
We were a fire breathing dragon in the AFC Title game. We were flying around with swagger and confidence.

That team never showed up for the Super Bowl.

Just really bizarre.

The defense forced two consecutive punts, with one being a 3-and-out.

They absolutely showed up. And then the penalties started.

Sassy Squatch 02-09-2021 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 15540459)
He also lacks football IQ/understanding when it comes to adjusting his routes based on the coverage he's [not] seeing.

He's basically a really fast guy with decent hands. We need more football players like Kelce, Reek, and CEH.

I'm pretty confident that Hardman ****ed the offensive game plan to hell and back and we never really recovered from it. It seemed like he was going to be the focus of the offense early game while Hill and Kelce had the attention of 4 defenders and he just let us down over and over and over. Let off the throttle on what could've been a TD and failed to get his head around twice. After that Mahomes seemed to abandon him except for a couple of plays down the stretch where he failed to do anything of significance once again and actually fell down on what may have been a big gain play. Not to mention his horrific offsides.

|Zach| 02-09-2021 03:06 PM

I don't care about following that stuff anyway so "no"

Pants 02-09-2021 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15541277)
I'm pretty confident that Hardman ****ed the offensive game plan to hell and back and we never really recovered from it. It seemed like he was going to be the focus of the offense early game while Hill and Kelce had the attention of 4 defenders and he just let us down over and over and over. Let off the throttle on what could've been a TD and failed to get his head around twice. After that Mahomes seemed to abandon him except for a couple of plays down the stretch where he failed to do anything of significance once again and actually fell down on what may have been a big gain play. Not to mention his horrific offsides.

That's actually a really good take. I bet you're spot on.

Mecole was worse than awful this game.

RunKC 02-09-2021 03:28 PM

Guys this could have been so much worse. Imagine if this happened last year?

50 year wait only to get curb stomped?

Some of you might have snapped and killed a mother****er

KChiefs1 02-09-2021 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 15540444)
It pains me that Mecole is not thriving in an offense where 80% of the defense's effort is spent on 2 other dudes.


He sucks ass. He’s worthless.

KChiefs1 02-09-2021 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 15541185)
We were a fire breathing dragon in the AFC Title game. We were flying around with swagger and confidence.

That team never showed up for the Super Bowl.

Just really bizarre.


Did the Britt Reid stupidity cause it?

Megatron96 02-10-2021 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by JudasRising20 (Post 15541183)
Not sure if anyone mentioned this, but this game was similar to another game earlier in the playoffs.

LA demolished Seattle's high powered offense by dominating the line of scrimmage. Russell Wilson had nowhere to go with the football. Didn't have enough time. Couldn't get the ball to his targets.

First intelligent thing i've read in this thread.

Megatron96 02-10-2021 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15541277)
I'm pretty confident that Hardman ****ed the offensive game plan to hell and back and we never really recovered from it. It seemed like he was going to be the focus of the offense early game while Hill and Kelce had the attention of 4 defenders and he just let us down over and over and over. Let off the throttle on what could've been a TD and failed to get his head around twice. After that Mahomes seemed to abandon him except for a couple of plays down the stretch where he failed to do anything of significance once again and actually fell down on what may have been a big gain play. Not to mention his horrific offsides.

:facepalm:
JFC.

morphius 02-10-2021 08:06 AM

Not as much as I would have expected it to. Might have helped that the two people I talk to outside of here about football I warned that I was pretty concerned about the OL and if they would be able to hold up. So I was prepared for them to be bad, but obviously had no idea they would be as bad as they were.

rico 02-10-2021 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 15539495)
No ****ing chance in hell.

We have Patrick Mahomes, still by far the best football player on the planet. And this offseason we're going to go get the man some help.

This loss hurts. It sucks to be humbled. But it's gonna make the revenge tour that much sweeter next season.

Bring on the draft and free agency.

P.S. We're also the AFC Champions and 30 other franchises would kill to have the season we did. I know it's hard to see that now, but it was still a great year.

Bingo.

Hammock Parties 02-10-2021 03:52 PM

2021 will be a joyless march to the postseason

Valiant 02-10-2021 03:57 PM

I am hoping someone lowkey steals beinemy.

We gets an assistant defense coordinator to mix up our defense. Still want to see ray Lewis coach linebackers.

I am looking forward to the draft and what free agents want to come here.

Unless we can draft up and grab that stud tightend. Get some oline and linebackers.

The Franchise 02-10-2021 03:58 PM

All I know is I better not see this bullshit sleepwalking through games like we saw this year. I want scorched ****ing earth the entire season. Stop expecting to just flip a switch when you need it.

Easy 6 02-10-2021 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15543423)
All I know is I better not see this bullshit sleepwalking through games like we saw this year. I want scorched ****ing earth the entire season. Stop expecting to just flip a switch when you need it.

:rockon:

Hammock Parties 02-10-2021 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15543423)
All I know is I better not see this bullshit sleepwalking through games like we saw this year. I want scorched ****ing earth the entire season. Stop expecting to just flip a switch when you need it.

Who cares. That level of play isn't sustainable for 20 games.

Break it out when you need to rape a contender.

Otherwise just get the bye and then start the constant rape.

Sleepwalking a few games a year didn't hurt us last season and it won't hurt us next season.

MGRS13 02-10-2021 05:07 PM

This team needs. And has for a long long time to get tougher on the line of scrimmage. They need some dogs inside on the offensive line and some fire in the defensive line. This team waits for 15 to take it to the other team. He needs help. They need someone who wants to smack you in the mouth, they need a Matthieu on the o line and another on the d.

New World Order 02-10-2021 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15543412)
2021 will be a joyless march to the postseason

Oh we're going back to the Bowl.

This time with a legit offensive line and hopefully not so many ****ing stupid defensive penalties.


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