Assuming KJ Wright is going to be too expensive cap/cash wise another player in that same build is Devondre Campbell who was Damien Wilson’s teammate at U of Minnesota. 6-4 232 33 1/2” arms. That’s a little above average for a DL but at LB that’s rare and well above average. A plus when rushing the passer, shedding blocks playing off the ball and always a plus in pass coverage. He’s just turning 28 before camp starts and a free agent. He has experience in the 4-3 under with the falcons when Dan Quinn drafted him. I wouldn’t want him taking snaps from Gay or Bolton but he could provide depth if he’s wanting to go ring chasing on a one year minimum or limited incentive type deal.

We’ve got a guy in Omari Cobb with the same type build. 6-4 223(probably bigger now) 33 1/2” arm length as well. Now if Cobb has developed and Matt House and the rest of the coaches and like his progress that would be great for the future at LB.
https://draftscout.com/dsprofile.php...DraftYear=2020

Darrius Harris’s arm length btw... 34 1/8”...that’s very good for OT and DE let alone LB. same thing here, if you’re going to walk an off the ball LB and let them rush like NE does with guys like Van Noy and Hightower those are 2 UDFA’s from last year under contract. Not nearly the same players talent wise as the two mentioned from NE I’m just saying it’s something to keep an eye on and hope for some development.
https://draftscout.com/dsprofile.php...DraftYear=2019

Just something I was looking at when I wanted to look at what Tim Ward and Tershawn measurements were because chiefs.com always gives ht and weight that’s way off with udfa’s when they might want to try to stash them on the taxi squad.

Ward 6-5 265 34 1/2” arm length

https://draftscout.com/dsprofile.php...DraftYear=2019

Wharton 6-1 280 (listed at 6-4 255 on chiefs.com lmao) 31 1/4” arm length
That’s center only if you’re talking OL and even below average for an interior DL. But he plays his ass of and his persuit and taking angles to find the ball is outstanding. He’s all hustle and effort and like an undrafted John Randle has created a role for himself.

Rankins-since we’re all wondering who can be a backup at LT
33 3/4” arm length which is about average to even maybe a little less than Reid would prefer. Could be one of the reasons he struggles outside in the past in Houston.

Prince Winnebago dude
33 1/2” arm length

https://draftscout.com/dsprofile.php...DraftYear=2020

Same thing with him. Like Rankin he would probably be better at G in KC’s O.

Doesn’t mean he can’t compete and even win the job of 2nd string LT.
Just something to look at with some of these guys and where they want to play them

But yeah I know the names mentioned with FA DE in Ingram Kerrigan and when he’s healthy Vernon. I agree with those just like KJ Wright and Campbell at LB

To a lesser level of talent Chad Williams and Tajae Sharpe as well. Calloway has the most explosiveness but it’s nice to have 3 guys with that game experience at the pro level rather than just udfa bodies. It should make that position more competitive this offseason and camp

A Passrusher opposite of Clark.

The ability to rush 4 and drop 7 and still get the QB is huge in the NFL.

Give me a another pass rusher and trade for Julio Jones.

What a disappointing career he has had.

Rankin even with our OL destroyed by injury didn't get the opportunities that the rest got. Dude cannot stay healthy or get in the field when we are at the 3rd, 4th guy deep at several positions. He must be pretty bad.

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That’s not entirely true. It’s not like he’s getting put on the PS next week. That would occur at some point towards the end of camp. If he had a pretty good camp and gave teams more additional time to see the blood clots aren’t an issue anymore, he almost certainly would get taken from the PS.

Would really think Houston as the SDE woudl be pretty ideal. Doubt it happens though.

Smith is a huge, talented, and very experienced offensive guard. He's not going to the practice squad, he's not a typical late round project.

This guy's going to be ready to play, and to compete for a starting position. Does he beat out Long or LDT? Maybe, maybe not. Probably not to start the season as I can't see rolling with two rookies, but he won't be buried on the depth chart.

Melvin Ingram. That’s priority numero uno.

Then Breeland or Heyward

I'm kind of to the point that I would be surprised if Long makes the team. He's talented, but if he's actually competing for a position I don't know if he can do it at this point in his career as a guard. LDT may be the default starter at RG, but I could see Smith easily taking it too.

I don't think he could beat either of those guys, and honestly Remmers is the guy he probably has to beat to even make the team.

If Long is actually 100%, he's a pro bowl level player, very smart, and very experienced.

It IS possible that he takes Remmers spot as super-sub. That's possible. If so, that's a big upgrade.

I think it's likely he takes the starting RG spot. I don't see rolling with two rookies day one, but I expect Smith to be there sooner than later.

Honestly, LDT is kind of odd man out; all the rest of the players are now in a different mold.

I would be very surprised if we did anything at WR or RB other than a ring chaser like Bell last year. We are not signing Julio Jones with that massive contract. There's a slim chance he gets cut after the June deadline to save the Falcons approx. 15 million in space, then maybe on a skinny deal. We are fine at RB as well with this no O-line, but again, someone cheap could always be added. I agree with others on here Breeland and Ingram if they like the price were offering are probably Veach's current priorities.

I agree, if he's 100%. I'm assuming there isn't as much tread on the tires, even after getting some time away from the game. But I would love to be wrong (which, I am quite often, so this bodes well).

I just assume LDT is the starter. Reid seems to love continuity, at least that's been my impression and why I figure its his job to lose at this point. And I think Smith is a beast. Of course, this offseason sure didn't have the same look and feel either, and the type of linemen coming in haven't really been in the mold of what I thought Reid typically wanted. So who knows.

At the end of the day, this appears to be a pretty good problem to have. Which decent player do you have to cut?

I'm OK with going with what we have at RB until we see what we have with Williams coming back. If he doesn't produce, buh-bye. The same goes for both LDT and Long. All I can say is I NEVER want to see Remmers at LT again. I don't see us spending a lot of cash on someone like Jones as a WR. There's a couple already on the expanded roster I'd like to see.
I looked at the latest cap figures and it looks like we have about $9.8M today. The latest number I've seen to sign our draft picks is about $5M, so I'd bring Breeland back at the $3M he made last year. I know Veach can always play with contracts, especially Mathieu's, but let's not go to the brink again until we see what holes we really do have.

Thuney would be LT2 I would guess, as they went so far as to say they could play him there before they got OBJ.

So we'd have to be down to LT3 to see a possibility of Remmers there, and even then I'm not sure we would.

Step 1: Extend Tyrann Mathieu and free up some more 2021 cap room

Step 2: Sign a veteran DE. I don't care if it's Melvin Ingram or Justin Houston or Ryan Kerrigan. Add a vet to the mix to start opposite Clark.


Step 3: Re-sign Bashad Breeland. It's the best fit for him and for the team.

Step 4: Sign a veteran WR. I really like Dede Westbook and think he could give them some juice at WR2, if he's recovered. His knee injury was pretty devastating... but he's a nice fit for this offense if he's back to what he was.

No thanks on Larry Fitzgerald, who is cooked, but Tate would be interesting.

I wouldn't be opposed to Tate, but I think I'd go with someone like Westbrook and roll with what they've got at WR.

I would love Houston at DE opposite Clark. He seems like an ideal DE in this scheme. I would guess that bridge is burned.

I agree except I hope we don't have to worry about that. However, that scenario pretty much locks Allegretti in as LG2/C2 or 3. Like I said earlier, Allegretti isn't going anywhere soon. Even if Smith turns out great, it's different footwork from RG to LG. An experienced pro can handle that, but a rookie --that's just way too much to ask today.

Who is left to have continuity with? If your overhauling theres not sense in not letting the better player get their feet wet.

There is 0% chance Julio gets cut. If the Falcons make him available he will be traded. I think people vastly underestimate his value. Top five WR in the league. Future HOFer. Great in the lockeroom. Great in the community. Leader. Everything you want. There will be a bidding war for him.

I mean... just all of this. Including the avatar.


I want a healthy wide receiver, so... not everything.

LDT would be the "continuity" since he has been a starter under Reid. I'm not advocating for it, I'm just trying to guess how it will shake out.

Id be okay taking a "gamble" on a guy that has EARNED his stripes. He is a future 1st ballot HOFer for a reason. Entering next year he is a top five WR in this league.

Golden Tate, Dede Westbrook, that crap isn't going to move the needle whatsoever. If that is what some of you are asking for I guess I'd prefer to just stand pat with Hardman, Robinson, Pringle as your second tier options dont need to waste more money for another JAG receiver.

He's also injured a lot, would cost $15M, and would be option #3 at 15M a year. No way I would take him unless the draft compensation was low, ATL ate a huge portion of that salary, or he was willing to renegotiate at a much smaller salary. Don't think all that will happen, so it's a hard pass on him here.

Whoever you bring in is option #3. You can still get a good one for cheaper than Julio.

Understood. I personally hope were able to replace him. He was not dominate the last time we saw him.

I dont think there is much out there in the free agent market that has more to offer than Robinson as a third option. He knows the offense and has built good rapport with Mahomes. Just spend that $ on defense.

I mean to be fair we went 7-0 without Watkins last year and averaged 33.1 PPG....

I stand corrected, I had read a piece wrong, if they cut him they have an additional $15 million in dead money and they are in cap hell already. However, I don't think anyone will want to pick up that contract, especially the Chiefs... injury concerns or not. I think he may go for a 3rd or 4th round pick at the best if traded, and the Falcons may just restructure his current deal and keep him, if that's all they can get. JMO

I don't think we need the needle moved that much when it comes to the third receiver, or even second receiver. Mecole Hardman HAS to know that this is a make or break year for him. Even Mahomes called him out on twitter when they drafted Powell.

It's so funny how everyone was clamoring for us to take a WR in the second round. I'm like... uh... we just did. How about he steps up and runs good routes, then this isn't an issue?

I've watched probably more clips of Smith than any other of the draftees leading up to the draft. Which still isn't much, but the guy just stands out to me, especially going against all the SEC dlinemen that got drafted. My gut says LDT starts just because Andy knows him and likes him, but I can't help but think Smith is ultimately the guy, and that'll be sooner than later.

Leno perhaps?

Why tf would we get Leno

He was disappoint.

Might be able to get a 7th for trading him.

People seem to have given up on Hardman. I haven't.

Remember, he was 21 his rookie year so he's now the same age as Tyreek was before his yr 2 breakout.

Hardman also didn't have OTAs and a truncated camp/preseason in 2020 that probably hurt his development. If you watched Kurt Warner's breakdown of the SB, you'll see one play in particular that if Hardman cut upfield he likely would have gotten a TD.

Harman really needs to work on the mental side of route adjustments as well as sharpening his cuts.

Veach would miraculously get a 5th somehow. Prolly give up our 7th + Wylie.

That is interesting, i like him a lot as well but he has some stuff that needs cleaned up. I would have assumed Long would get a shot at the rotation because Andy loves vets and his dad is part of that NFL good ol boys club. But id be thrilled if Smith just steam rolled both vets.

Was Breeland spooning Reiter on the same set of ski's as the middle fatty jumped the shark?

There's going to be a bunch of veerry good vets getting released over the next couple weeks, we may pick up upgrades at special sticker prices....

Well Mahomes called him out on Twitter but that's because Powell tweeted himself with a Chiefs jersey on and he had Mecole's number on it. It was more making fun of that then actually saying Mecole has been served notice or something.

Okafor over Ingram. Okafor will be much cheaper and is better fit. Ingram is shorter with much shorter arms. Let taco, okafor and danna compete. And bring back breeland too.

Because we are still thin at Tackle. Leno would be a solid reserve at LT.

We are literally 10 deep at O line. Let me guess the Chiefs are the treasury and we can print money whenever?

Okafor is literally hurt all the time.

Who???

No, no we aren't, we are going to cut/trade guys with staring experience this year.

Brown, Niang and Remmers is a solid 3, in a pinch Thuney, Long and even LDT could slide out to OT. Very few teams have that kind of depth.

Okafor cheap is better than Ingram. He’s talented and a fit.

This. It's time for him to step up and work.

I keep seeing people talking that we need to bring back Breeland. I'm not opposed to it. But I don't think that it's necessary. Sneed is a bonafide starter. Ward is probably on the other side, and Fenton on the slot. That's a pretty good set of corners, and don't forget that we have Baker too. He got hurt before he could get established. But with a full off-season and camp, he could take the starting slot from Ward. He was a first round pick and he got cut because of the legal issue that looks like it's behind him now, Add him in the mix, and I just don't see a need for Breeland. I guess that you can never have too many corners though. Especially if we end up facing Rodgers twice per year

Okafor never seems healthy even when he suits up.

2020

Kpass 20 Tackles, 1 scks, 3 PD, 0 FF, 2 TFL, 16 gms
Okafor 9 Tackles, 3 scks, 0 PD, 1 FF, 1 TFL 11 gms

If Kpass sucks...

How about LDT + 2022 2nd Rd Pick = Julio Jones on a slightly restructured deal incentivizing him to stay on the field?

I read ATL needs an OG, we might have x4 starting-caliber guards on the roster currently.

We have $9m in space, moving LDT saves us $2.75m, if Julio's willing to play WR 1A for $11.75m and turn the rest of his $15m Base into incentives...whoo-boy! We'd be set!

You Julio-baters are just the absolute worst.

lol would be fun for sure!

A pass-rusher would also be fantastic, Melvin Ingram maybe?

Mahomes needs less work, not more. Hand the ball off, run the wildcat. 17-21 games a season is going to take it's toll. Brady doesn't strain...anything. Never has.

1) Running produces less expected points than passing.

2) The Wildcat was dead in like 2011.

3) You’re a butt****ing moron.

Looks like I'm moving down, giggitty.

Okafor sucks dog nuts, we'd have been much better off finding the money to keep Ogbah... sans him, that leaves Ingram or Kerrigan as the next best vet options

Okay. Whose mult are you? I've been wanting to know for awhile. blueballs? Are you blueballs?

Taysom Hill was a compliment/ necessary to be future. 17 games means stretching players with Hamburger helper.

No, we really don't. The #2 reciever is actually the third or fourth option on this team and has been since Mahomes took over. It's not a big role. A solid "post-up" guy like Powell is just what the doctor ordered.

Mecole is a speedy gadget player and return specialist. He'll never be a great route runner. He's still a solid player overall.

There will be some EDGE guys that get cut. Chiefs have to figure out what they have in guys like Tim Ward first.

What are you saying? Why do you talk like that?

REVEAL THYSELF, MULT!

Anti-freeze and ball powder unite into a poultice!

I’d imagine that Ingram is wanting a contract similar to the one Clowney got last year when he signed late. He got almost $13 million

I wouldn’t offer him that. Maybe an $8 million base with $2-3 million in incentives?

Suggested Post-Draft Free Agents & Trade Ideas?
 

Faider or Donko fan?

He’s not worth that much.

We don’t need to run more, we just need to be more effective when we do run. We have to be able to punish light fronts. We can’t let teams drop 7 with no consequence.

We still need to primarily be a passing team, because Mahomes/Kelce/Hill. Some effective counterpunching with the run would be nice though.

Yep.

Look, you have to make people pay for not playing you honest. There will be games, particularly early on, where we probably shove it down their throats. That won't mean Andy's changed his stripes, and by the end of the year I'm sure the run/pass balance will still skew heavily towards pass.

But you've got to force defenses to play you straight up. If they want to drop 7 you absolutely steamroll them until they stop doing that.

Knee, ankle, head, toe, individually explained away. Cumulatively effect remains. Less time for concern as for wisdom, when adding a 17 regular season game. This is for all players. Those that dress probably need to take snaps. The back up QB position may evolve.

Smed?

Dede, Ingram/Okafor, and Breeland seem to be the top targets.

Any additional surprise cuts or under-the-radar trades for a WR, DE, CB out there?

No interest in Richard Sherman here at CP?

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...to the ship?

Maybe.

Don't know much about him in the NFL but he was a standout All-American at UNI and was the MVP of the East-West Shrine Bowl the year he came out.

I looked him up and he wasn't invited to the combine but posted a respectable 4.46 at his pro day. He did put up really good vert and broad jumps - 42.5" and 11'2" respectively. He's 6'2" so he might be a kind of jump ball guy.

Fountain was balling with the Colts but then got a season ending injury. That stalled his development and by the time he was ready to play again the Colts had drafted two high end recievers. His traits are great it's just a matter of whether he can learn the playbook and embrace this opportunity.

Daurice Fountain had a good senior year at UNI with 13 games, 66 catches for 943 yards and 12 TDs. As htismage writes, he was the MVP of the Shrine Bowl with 61 yards on 3 catches and 2 punt returns for 30 and 10 yards. I think a good signing if he can be healthy.

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Camp fodder.

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BRING HIM HOME VEATCH RIGHT DOESEYS RONG