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Easy 6 05-15-2021 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Monticore (Post 15675072)
Not sure why the thought of having a dominant o-line gets me so hard but man it sure ****ing does, you can do anything you want and the other team can't do shit about it.

Its because we've been waiting for a line full of bullies since Reid arrived

And now we have them, 5 brand new bullies... something many said couldn't be done in one offseason

Brody Wa 05-15-2021 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15675051)
Listening to Trey Smith interview. He’s got a similar mindset to Orlando Brown Jr. He’s determined and has a strong will to meet his goals.

This OL is going to be so badass. It’s going to be even better in 2022 when they’ve had a little more time to gel

I think CEH has a better than good chance at having a Priest Holmes type of season behind this offensive offensive line. I hope they use CEH in the passing game more often this year.

Chief Pagan 05-15-2021 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 15674672)
Can Mahomes play in a a clean pocket?

Asking for a friend....

He's a running QB.

Answering for our haters...



:bolt:

Skyy God 05-15-2021 02:31 PM

Tell your friend to go **** themselves, Pete.

Red Dawg 05-15-2021 03:48 PM

Mahomes numbers inside the pocket are just as great as they are outside the pocket. Any statement that says Mahomes QB skill has flaws is total......****ing.....bullshit.

Easy 6 05-15-2021 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 15675255)
Mahomes numbers inside the pocket are just as great as they are outside the pocket. Any statement that says Mahomes QB skill has flaws is total......****ing.....bullshit.

This is true, he can beat you inside or outside the pocket with equal skill

chief4life 05-15-2021 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 15675206)
Tell your friend to go **** themselves, Pete.

What did he say?

Bob Dole 05-15-2021 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 15674741)
I want to believe, but perhaps I am just a Doubting Thomas.

Malik played in 34 games at Georgia and he had 70 tackles and 4 sacks. I think he was a rotational player at Georgia.

At the 2021 Senior Bowl practice in January, he tore his ACL.

I have read that the Chiefs are looking at Malik maybe getting healthy and being able to help in 2022.

I always want to root for a young player to come and make a difference for the Chiefs.

What is it about Mr. Herring that has you NOT doubting?

The fact that he never gets mentioned.

Coogs 05-15-2021 04:25 PM

It appears from the photos of day 1 and day 2 that Smith is working at LG and Williams is at the RG spot. Now granted we only have 4 offensive linemen there, but that is a tad interesting even if it is just day one and two of rookie mini camp.

RunKC 05-15-2021 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by chief4life (Post 15675171)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Plenty of chatter about <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> Lucas Niang. Focused my lens on him and others during day 2 of rookie mini-camp <a href="https://twitter.com/41actionnews?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@41actionnews</a> <a href="https://t.co/eG6rT7OOH7">pic.twitter.com/eG6rT7OOH7</a></p>&mdash; Aaron Ladd (@aaronladd0) <a href="https://twitter.com/aaronladd0/status/1393644071923720196?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 15, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Zayne Anderson #6. Looks similar to Sorenson but with a faster 40 time.

Pack your bags Armani Watts. Your time here is over

staylor26 05-15-2021 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 15675291)
It appears from the photos of day 1 and day 2 that Smith is working at LG and Williams is at the RG spot. Now granted we only have 4 offensive linemen there, but that is a tad interesting even if it is just day one and two of rookie mini camp.

Makes sense because you have Long, LDT, and Wylie at RG. While it’s just Thuney, Allegretti, and Rankin at LG. He could easily win the backup job to Thuney.

I still expect him to be the starting RG in 2022.

DaneMcCloud 05-15-2021 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 15675291)
It appears from the photos of day 1 and day 2 that Smith is working at LG and Williams is at the RG spot. Now granted we only have 4 offensive linemen there, but that is a tad interesting even if it is just day one and two of rookie mini camp.

It's not interesting or surprising in the least.

Reid wants all of his lineman to be comfortable playing any position along the offensive line, so it stands to reason that guys are in different spots during the Rookie Minicamp session(s).

Coogs 05-15-2021 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15675308)
It's not interesting or surprising at all because Reid wants all of his lineman to be comfortable playing any position along the offensive line.

It's interesting to me.

DaneMcCloud 05-15-2021 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 15675311)
It's interesting to me.

Then you haven't been paying attention, as usual

Coogs 05-15-2021 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15675388)
Then you haven't been paying attention, as usual

:shrug:

RG position is wide open IMO. Smith has just as good of shot as either LTD or Long if what they say about best players will play. Smith would have been a day 2 pick without the blood clots. That starter material when you are talking IOL. Same applies to Niang at RT and Humphery at C. It looks to me like the more snaps these three could take as a unit in their natural positions to develop chemistry would be a good thing.

I get the rest of it. Being versatile is a good thing. Chemistry is too. Right now I prefer chemistry. Especially from these three.

chief4life 05-15-2021 06:45 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Some more video from Day 2 of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> Rookie Minicamp: a focus on Noah Gray, Trey Smith (and the rest of the Offensive Line under the watchful eye of Andy Reid) and Cornell Powell. <a href="https://t.co/HGZsJuJ1XG">pic.twitter.com/HGZsJuJ1XG</a></p>&mdash; Harold R. Kuntz (@HaroldRKuntz3) <a href="https://twitter.com/HaroldRKuntz3/status/1393726920471285765?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 16, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Delano 05-15-2021 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 15675461)
:shrug:

RG position is wide open IMO. Smith has just as good of shot as either LTD or Long if what they say about best players will play. Smith would have been a day 2 pick without the blood clots. That starter material when you are talking IOL. Same applies to Niang at RT and Humphery at C. It looks to me like the more snaps these three could take as a unit in their natural positions to develop chemistry would be a good thing.

I get the rest of it. Being versatile is a good thing. Chemistry is too. Right now I prefer chemistry. Especially from these three.

There is no chance Smith starts this season. Zero. He’s a developmental guy like Allegretti but with higher upside.

Coogs 05-15-2021 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Delano (Post 15675474)
There is no chance Smith starts this season. Zero. He’s a developmental guy like Allegretti but with higher upside.

He was a potential 2nd round draft pick with blood clot issues. Not talent issues. It's a bit higher than zero on his chances. Do I expect him to start? Probably not. But this is a great opportunity to build chemistry for the right 3/5 of our line going forward. You could work on the versatility the next few weeks when all of the cast of characters are back battling for spots.

Halfcan 05-15-2021 07:34 PM

Gray looks like a beast!

Tribal Warfare 05-15-2021 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Delano (Post 15675474)
There is no chance Smith starts this season. Zero. He’s a developmental guy like Allegretti but with higher upside.

Actually Trey Smith has a legit chance to start if he's given a fair shot

srvy 05-15-2021 07:40 PM

While scrolling down from some tweets posted here I found this little ditty from a familiar face.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">After Lucas Niang reported to camp vastly overweight here is My Updated <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> starting O-Line for 2021:<br><br>LT Orlando Brown<br>LG Joe Thuney<br>C Creed Humphrey<br>RG Trey Smith<br>RT Mitchell Schwartz / Kyle Long</p>&mdash; Chiefs Insider (@ChiefsInsider) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsInsider/status/1393583232487198723?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 15, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

:D

TwistedChief 05-15-2021 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Delano (Post 15675474)
There is no chance Smith starts this season. Zero. He’s a developmental guy like Allegretti but with higher upside.

He’s well ahead of Allegretti. It’s less development and more hoping he doesn’t die because of blood clots. He absolutely has the talent to start.

RealSNR 05-15-2021 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 15674672)
Can Mahomes play in a a clean pocket?

Asking for a friend....

Get smarter friends

DaneMcCloud 05-15-2021 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 15675461)
:shrug:

RG position is wide open IMO.

Wrong.

This is the same line of horseshit you pulled with Mahomes, claiming that he'd start the season, then he'd start later in the season, blah, blah, blah, during his entire rookie season.

Just because you want something to happen doesn't mean it will happen, especially when you're dealing with coaches that have been doing things successfully for 20+ years.

RealSNR 05-15-2021 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 15675274)
The fact that he never gets mentioned.

Are you having a Dante Hall premonition about him?

DaneMcCloud 05-15-2021 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 15675522)
He’s well ahead of Allegretti. It’s less development and more hoping he doesn’t die because of blood clots. He absolutely has the talent to start.

There's not a chance that Smith will start at Right Guard before Kyle Long or LDT, unless of course it's due to injury and even then, I'd expect Veach to sign a veteran before throwing Smith out there after last season's offensive line woes.

The Chiefs had similar offensive line woes in 2014. They threw Fulton out there but sat LDT. It was the last year the Chiefs missed the playoffs and the line was so bad that there were no TD's by a WR all season long.

RealSNR 05-15-2021 08:08 PM

Remember when we first drafted Mahomes and some people thought he was fat?

Yeah... Niang ain't exactly Ryan Sims. He'll be fine.

Delano 05-15-2021 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 15675522)
He’s well ahead of Allegretti. It’s less development and more hoping he doesn’t die because of blood clots. He absolutely has the talent to start.


Smith is a bigger, longer guy and Nick won't get bigger so Smith is ahead there. I think they're both gritty, tenacious guys that aren't super nimble or athletic. Good run blocking, decent pulling, but get them to the second level and they look like infant giraffes.



I'm excited about Smith's development and think he's a steal. Barring catastrophe, he won't start this year. Next year, if he's installed, you have to like the balance along the line with strong run and pass blocking at various points.

Coogs 05-15-2021 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15675553)
Wrong.

This is the same line of horseshit you pulled with Mahomes, claiming that he'd start the season, then he'd start later in the season, blah, blah, blah, during his entire rookie season.

Just because you want something to happen doesn't mean it will happen, especially when you're dealing with coaches that have been doing things successfully for 20+ years.

Turns out I wasn't really wrong. You were clamoring for it too by the end of the season. I just had better long term vision that you. :D

And here. I just find it interesting and surprising. I'm not advocating he start. You just put those words in my mouth.

Delano 05-15-2021 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15675557)
There's not a chance that Smith will start at Right Guard before Kyle Long or LDT, unless of course it's due to injury and even then, I'd expect Veach to sign a veteran before throwing Smith out there after last season's offensive line woes.

The Chiefs had similar offensive line woes in 2014. They threw Fulton out there but sat LDT. It was the last year the Chiefs missed the playoffs and the line was so bad that there were no TD's by a WR all season long.


They'd move Thuney, Wiley, or Remmers to RG before Smith gets a chance this year.

Halfcan 05-15-2021 08:30 PM

^ This draft looks like a grand slam!

DaneMcCloud 05-15-2021 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 15675568)
Turns out I wasn't really wrong. You were clamoring for it too by the end of the season. I just had better long term vision that you. :D

:rolleyes:

DaneMcCloud 05-15-2021 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Delano (Post 15675576)
They'd move Thuney, Wiley, or Remmers to RG before Smith gets a chance this year.

Yep, or Allegretti or someone else with experience.

Look people, Tennessee is not the Tennessee of the past. They are 10-24 in the past 4 years in SEC games.

If his blood clotting issue is under control, Smith has serious upside but even then, he's not an NFL starting guard right now, especially on a team with Super Bowl aspirations.

Stryker 05-15-2021 08:50 PM

Joshua Kaindoh

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Noah Gray

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Creed Humphrey

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Cornell Powell

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Trey Smith

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Coogs 05-15-2021 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15675629)
:rolleyes:


Here is a thread from November of 2017. And I will tap out at this point.

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/show...ahomes&page=10

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Originally Posted by New World Order View Post
Mahomes development is more important than receiving a second or third round pick for Alex.

Play him now and let him get some game experience before he starts next year.
Game experience?

Mahomes has more arm talent than anyone in the league not named Rodgers or Brady.

Play him.

tredadda 05-15-2021 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 15675640)
Joshua Kaindoh

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Noah Gray

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Creed Humphrey

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Cornell Powell

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Trey Smith

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Good grief I hate Petro's stupid COVID vaccination questions.

DaneMcCloud 05-15-2021 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 15675656)
Here is a thread from November of 2017. And I will tap out at this point.]

You still don't get it.

From the moment Mahomes was drafted, you were claiming that he was ready to start. You continued that all throughout Minicamps and Training Camp. You stated it every single week of the season and would not shut up about it.

When I made that post, the Chiefs were in the middle of a 4 game losing streak. They looked finished for the season (and for all intents and purposes, they were finished for the season). At that point, there was absolutely nothing to lose.

That is very different than what you posted for months and months and months and months.

And no, Trey Smith is not going to start Week 1 unless the Chiefs endure catastrophic injuries, again.

RunKC 05-15-2021 10:10 PM

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Powell was talked about by Louis Riddick so we know that our staff thinks highly of him. He was on the Chiefs social media today, had a sweet one handed catch (in my pic below) and I even heard on the news that “the rookies performed we in their first action, most notably Cornell Powell who stood out according to the team.”

Not trying to hype him up but he seems a bit different from the recent WR’s we’ve drafted lately. I think this guy could be a contributor in the second half of the season.

kcclone 05-15-2021 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 15675685)
Good grief I hate Petro's stupid COVID vaccination questions.


He’s turned into such a tool.

Such a whinny bitch and basically runs a trivia show now.

oldman 05-15-2021 10:32 PM

Unless LDT and Long are washed up or injured, Smith will not be the game 1 starter. If those 2 are good to go, Wylie probably won't be with the team.

Hammock Parties 05-15-2021 11:05 PM

Man it IS weird.

If this guy blows up we're going to be calling him Lizard Prince.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It’s scary how much Cornell Powell looks like Sammy especially with the 14 on <a href="https://t.co/tbh0x24CcY">pic.twitter.com/tbh0x24CcY</a></p>&mdash; Braiden Turner (@bturner23) <a href="https://twitter.com/bturner23/status/1393691881419075586?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 15, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Rasputin 05-15-2021 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15675717)
Man it IS weird.

If this guy blows up we're going to be calling him Lizard Prince.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It’s scary how much Cornell Powell looks like Sammy especially with the 14 on <a href="https://t.co/tbh0x24CcY">pic.twitter.com/tbh0x24CcY</a></p>&mdash; Braiden Turner (@bturner23) <a href="https://twitter.com/bturner23/status/1393691881419075586?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 15, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>



I hope this pushes Hardman to the next level he needs a firecracker lit under his ass.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 05-16-2021 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15675699)
Powell was talked about by Louis Riddick so we know that our staff thinks highly of him. He was on the Chiefs social media today, had a sweet one handed catch (in my pic below) and I even heard on the news that “the rookies performed we in their first action, most notably Cornell Powell who stood out according to the team.”

Not trying to hype him up but he seems a bit different from the recent WR’s we’ve drafted lately. I think this guy could be a contributor in the second half of the season.

I swear you guys never learn. Chiefs specifically said that Powell will be Sammys replacement. He will see action early on and often

oldman 05-16-2021 08:44 AM

Powell will see action when he learns the playbook. As to him being Sammy's replacement, is he planning on spending much time in the trainer's room?

I don't think you can take a lot away from the limited action we've seen. No pads, no vets, and a lot of guys that will be insurance salesmen come September or before. I'm not looking for any of them to be Game 1 starters except Niang, but I do expect to see some of them get their shot before the season ends. I'm not even sure Niang will start if Schwartz comes back healthy.

Easy 6 05-16-2021 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15675557)
There's not a chance that Smith will start at Right Guard before Kyle Long or LDT, unless of course it's due to injury and even then, I'd expect Veach to sign a veteran before throwing Smith out there after last season's offensive line woes.

The Chiefs had similar offensive line woes in 2014. They threw Fulton out there but sat LDT. It was the last year the Chiefs missed the playoffs and the line was so bad that there were no TD's by a WR all season long.

Agreed

While I'm ALL in on Smith and can't wait to see him eventually start, it seems very doubtful we'll see him in there immediately... he's going to need some refinement and a chance to see how vets go about their business first

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15675717)
Man it IS weird.

If this guy blows up we're going to be calling him Lizard Prince.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It’s scary how much Cornell Powell looks like Sammy especially with the 14 on <a href="https://t.co/tbh0x24CcY">pic.twitter.com/tbh0x24CcY</a></p>&mdash; Braiden Turner (@bturner23) <a href="https://twitter.com/bturner23/status/1393691881419075586?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 15, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yeah its pretty eerie and doppelganger-ish, it'd be amazing to see him be the first rookie receiver Reid trusts giving starter type reps to

Skyy God 05-16-2021 09:20 AM

Like last year, there’s going to be a ton of market inefficiencies in 2021 draftees.

It’s very likely the Chiefs killed it again.

RealSNR 05-16-2021 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 15675834)
Like last year, there’s going to be a ton of market inefficiencies in 2021 draftees.

It’s very likely the Chiefs killed it again.


Absolutely. The NFL has proven that half or more of GMs and front offices are incapable of pivoting when circumstances change. Even a respected guy like Mickey Loomis was whining last year not about safety but about the lack of in-person visits for free agency and how the NFL should delay the opening.

This year with no combine, few in person visits, and shortened or nonexistent game tape from the past season, the draft was held anyway and a bunch of these guys were probably like, “derp not enough scouting!”

Veach has proven to be forward thinking in his short time as an NFL GM. He largely outsmarted a bunch of teams last year, and on paper he probably did the same thing this year.

RaidersOftheCellar 05-16-2021 10:18 AM

Let’s go, Colin Powell!!

duncan_idaho 05-16-2021 12:59 PM

Man, if Powell could grasp the playbook well enough to play big snap counts year 1, it would really bode well for the future.

I could see him being a Sneed-like mid-round guy. Someone who makes a big year 1
Contribution and outperforms his draft slot by a large amount, giving KC a bunch of cheap early production AND more flexibility.

KChiefs1 05-16-2021 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 15675862)
Let’s go, Colin Powell!!


I keep making that same mistake.

Hoover 05-16-2021 03:16 PM

I've got him down for 37 grabs, 421 yards and two TDs.

Tribal Warfare 05-16-2021 06:46 PM

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Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan 05-16-2021 06:58 PM

Gah, Teicher's questions are cringe-worthy at best. :banghead:

srvy 05-16-2021 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kcclone (Post 15675703)
He’s turned into such a tool.

Such a whinny bitch and basically runs a trivia show now.

Yep I wish the players would tell it's none of your damn business. He still doesn't annoy as much as Teicher. Does that guy even prepare at all? Just seems like he mails it in at every press conference.

Red Dawg 05-16-2021 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan (Post 15676368)
Gah, Teicher's questions are cringe-worthy at best. :banghead:

****ing Teicher. What dumb **** and stupid questions.

Tribal Warfare 05-16-2021 10:11 PM

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UChieffyBugger 05-16-2021 10:39 PM

Powell just feels like a dude who has been the underdog his whole career. But he's watched his peers, learned his craft rep in, rep out, and all of that grinding, along with his physical gifts developing, are gonna explode into something special when he hits the field on sundays. No-one saw Kittle coming being a 23 year old 5th round pick and I think Powell has that same stuff about him tbh.

BossChief 05-17-2021 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15675690)

And no, Trey Smith is not going to start Week 1 unless the Chiefs endure catastrophic injuries, again.

Normally, I’d agree with you here. This offseason is far different, though.

Neither LDT or Long played last year, so I think Smith does have a slim chance to win the job outright in camp. I honestly think he can outplay LDT right away and Long is a complete ?...if Long is as healthy as they say he is, it’s his job to lose.

Also, there are really 4 guys that will compete for RG

Long
LDT
Blythe
Smith.

Smith is the only one that played any snaps at RG last year and is under contract past next season.

I wouldn’t be as shocked as you’d be if he were to go out and win the job outright, but I agree it’s a long shot.

JakeF 05-17-2021 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 15676492)
Powell just feels like a dude who has been the underdog his whole career. But he's watched his peers, learned his craft rep in, rep out, and all of that grinding, along with his physical gifts developing, are gonna explode into something special when he hits the field on sundays. No-one saw Kittle coming being a 23 year old 5th round pick and I think Powell has that same stuff about him tbh.

I think Powell is going to surprise too. Given enough reps he will become our #3 wr, maybe our #2.

Kman34 05-17-2021 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 15676517)
I think Powell is going to surprise too. Given enough reps he will become our # wr, maybe our #2.

1st year WRs in Reid’s offense are typically role players till they learn the playbook.. Don’t look for a lot of production out of him this year..

Oxford 05-17-2021 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 15675103)
Sounds like a phantom IR stash candidate.

Or a "Red" Herring

JakeF 05-17-2021 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 15676564)
1st year WRs in Reid’s offense are typically role players till they learn the playbook.. Don’t look for a lot of production out of him this year..

Why do you have to be so negative about everything? :D LMAO

Powell is going up against Robinson, Hardman, and Pringle for snaps. We have Tajae Sharpe, Fortson, Kemp, and Dieter too but only Sharpe is likely to have a real shot at getting many snaps. It's past time for Dieter to hit the ****ing bricks.

Powell is supposed to be smart and run good routes. That should help him win some reps. His size might help him take some blocking reps away from Robinson.

I hope he becomes our very own D.K. Metcalf. :clap:

JakeF 05-17-2021 07:45 AM

Brown, Thuney, Humphrey, Smith, Long


Boom!! look at the starting offensive line. :D

Dunerdr 05-17-2021 07:51 AM

Are we taking Kyle Long serious at RT? Personally i just see him as a guard option.

JakeF 05-17-2021 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 15676582)
Are we taking Kyle Long serious at RT? Personally i just see him as a guard option.

He was pretty darn good at RT for the Bears when they had some injuries. I have to think he's better than Remmers.

-King- 05-17-2021 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 15676586)
He was pretty darn good at RT for the Bears when they had some injuries. I have to think he's better than Remmers.

Lmao why would he be? Remmers was solid at RT as recently as last year. Last time Long played RT was 6 years ago and he's had major injuries and surgeries since then.

AdolfOliverBush 05-17-2021 08:17 AM

I think Niang wins the RT job outright.

Dunerdr 05-17-2021 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush (Post 15676596)
I think Niang wins the RT job outright.

I also think this but people keep penciling Long in.

-King- 05-17-2021 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush (Post 15676596)
I think Niang wins the RT job outright.

Me too. If not him it's going to be Remmers. But the way people are talking about Niang, he's ready to take the starting job.

Dunerdr 05-17-2021 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15676606)
Me too. If not him it's going to be Remmers. But the way people are talking about Niang, he's ready to take the starting job.

Pull back the reigns you missed a few days, this weeks topic is too fat/ calves too small. Please try to keep up with the shit Athan takes.

KChiefs1 05-17-2021 08:38 AM

https://theathletic.com/2593272/2021...robust-return/

Chiefs Rookie Camp Takeaways
by Nate Taylor

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KANSAS CITY, Mo. — No full-on 11-on-11 periods. No one-on-one battles between an offensive lineman against a defensive lineman. Just a few seven-on-seven passing repetitions. And a lot of individual drills.

Chiefs coach Andy Reid made all of those statements Sunday, just minutes after the team held its modified rookie minicamp.

With just 29 players on the practice fields at the training facility this weekend — amid the NFL’s rules regarding the ongoing coronavirus pandemic — Reid did his best to teach under unusual circumstances. The players, after learning the playbook through virtual meetings, were eager to perform for Reid and the rest of the coaching staff to demonstrate their ability to apply the Chiefs’ terminology and up-tempo practice style.

A few scenes on the field, though, were indeed odd.

Undrafted rookie quarterback Shane Buechele (SMU) commanded a 10-man huddle because the Chiefs had just four offensive linemen: center Creed Humphrey, right tackle Lucas Niang and guards Trey Smith and Darryl Williams. When the offense broke the huddle, on the opposite side of the line of scrimmage were just three defensive linemen, three linebackers and a rotation of defensive backs.

“It’s rough on the O-line and D-line right now because they can’t hit anybody and do their thing,” Reid said, smiling. “It’s versus a bag.”

The experience, Reid said, was still beneficial for the players, especially since teams couldn’t have on-field work for last year’s rookie minicamp because of the pandemic. All six players the Chiefs selected in the 2021 NFL Draft participated in the minicamp. In one way or another, each player made a strong impression through three non-padded practices.

Reid praised defensive end Joshua Kaindoh, whom the Chiefs selected in the fourth round of the draft, for his work ethic, intelligence and heavy hands when executing individual drills.

“You want to go into training camp with an understanding of the new things you’re able to study and experiment with, as coaches, and then on the field, as players, to make yourself better,” Reid said. “This gave them an opportunity now to hit Phase 2 (of the team’s offseason program) when the veterans are here with a base understanding of what’s going on.

“They’re going to have to strap it on when the veterans get in because it’s gone fast. We’re already four installs into it, and they’re going to have to catch up.”

Ahead of the Chiefs’ voluntary workouts, which start May 25, here are five takeaways from the team’s rookie minicamp:

Second-rounder Bolton flashes several traits

Rain forced Sunday’s practice to be held in the Chiefs’ indoor facility. Adjusting the schedule, Reid had the players go through seven-on-seven repetitions inside the red zone. The highlight Reid shared with reporters was that linebacker Nick Bolton, whom the Chiefs selected with the first of their two second-round picks, made an athletic interception.

“He’s Tiger-tough,” Reid said of Bolton, referencing his college career at Missouri. “He’s got great instincts, he’s very intelligent and did a nice job. We’re in shorts and he’s a linebacker, so I know he probably can’t wait until we start hitting. For the drills here, he sure did a nice job.”

A two-year starter at Missouri, Bolton was a team captain and led the Tigers last season with 95 tackles. He also recorded 7.5 stops for loss, two sacks and five pass breakups.

Putting on the Chiefs’ uniform and helmet for the first time Friday, Bolton wanted to accomplish the simple task in minicamp of showing his competitiveness, no matter the drill or repetition he went through. He sprinted to the perimeter well and he was in place to make a few pass breakups in the intermediate area of the field.

“When he got drafted, I didn’t know I was coming here, but I’m like, ‘Dude, he’s going to be so annoying to chase down on the field,’” Chiefs sixth-round pick Trey Smith said Saturday of Bolton. “Just playing him for so many years, he’s a baller. I can’t wait to get a little bit of action against him again.”

Prior to minicamp, Bolton said he felt more comfortable with the playbook after talking with linebacker Anthony Hitchens, the eight-year veteran who will serve as his mentor this upcoming season.

“That’s one of my guys,” Bolton said Friday of Hitchens. “He was actually down there in Dallas (earlier this spring) when I was down there, so I texted with him quite a bit. We talked a lot, so I’m just looking forward to building that relationship.”

General manager Brett Veach said earlier this month that Bolton will be expected to learn the middle and weak-side linebacker positions under defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo and linebackers assistant Matt House. But one relationship that Bolton already had before arriving in Kansas City was with Andy Hill, the Chiefs’ second-year assistant special teams coach. Before joining the Chiefs, Hill was Missouri’s special teams coordinator in Bolton’s freshman and sophomore seasons.

Bolton understands he will likely begin his NFL career as a core special teams player. He also knows that Hill vouched for him when the Chiefs were considering who to select in the second round.

“I appreciate him for that,” Bolton said of Hill. “Since I got here, he’s been trying to teach me a little bit on special teams. I’m trying to soak up as much knowledge as I can from him to put myself in position to help us.”

Gray, Powell show strong hands

In the 2021 draft’s fifth round, the Chiefs selected tight end Noah Gray and receiver Cornell Powell, two pass-catchers who had limited opportunities in college that the team believes are ascending players.

Gray was one of the few pass-catchers who went through individual drills at times without wearing gloves. But the seven-on-seven periods allowed Gray and Powell to showcase their skills.

“The receivers that we have here, they work really hard,” Buechele said of Gray and Powell. “They’re taking a lot of reps, they’re running a ton but they’re taking in the playbook really well. I’m learning from them just as much as they’re learning from me.”

In his final season at Duke, Gray recorded 237 snaps in the slot, 139 on the line at the traditional tight end spot and 120 in the backfield. In the Chiefs’ rookie minicamp, Gray lined up often as either the traditional tight end or as the slot receiver, a role in which he split repetitions with Jody Fortson, the third-year receiver.

Powell made the minicamp’s coolest highlights. During Saturday’s practice, Powell made an impressive reception in which he stretched his 6-foot frame and 33-inch arms to grab the ball. Another repetition featured Powell using his left hand to make a one-handed catch.

“I consider myself a playmaker,” Powell said Saturday. “I can go down the field and make plays, I can run routes and I can give my team a spark. I’m just here to have fun, make plays and contribute to winning championships.”

Some of Powell’s favorite moments from the minicamp was whenever he heard instruction from Reid, the future Hall of Fame coach known for his passing innovations.

“I’ve got a championship head coach in Andy, so it’s always a blessing to be able to obtain knowledge from him,” Powell said. “He was just giving me little tips and reminding me to have fun with it and just to be myself.”

Powell didn’t become a major contributor at Clemson until his senior season, but he made the most of his 15 starts last year, recording 53 receptions for 882 yards and seven touchdowns. The Chiefs posted a short video on their Twitter account Saturday that featured Powell, who is known for his route-running ability, making a smooth catch in the middle of the field before turning up field to gain additional yards. Powell received a compliment from former receiver Sammy Watkins, who last wore the No. 14 jersey in Kansas City.

Similar to Watkins’ role the previous three seasons, the Chiefs project Powell as a strong possession receiver who can be effective in the intermediate area of the field for superstar quarterback Patrick Mahomes.

“Going from (former Clemson quarterback) Trevor (Lawrence) to Patrick Mahomes, it’s just a blessing,” Powell said, smiling. “I couldn’t ask for anything better. I fell into the perfect situation, so I’ve just got to make the most of every opportunity.”

Niang makes compelling return

Before the minicamp, the last time Niang was at the Chiefs’ training facility was in early August 2020. The Chiefs selected Niang in the third round of the 2020 draft, but he elected to opt out of the season because of the pandemic. Niang felt it was wise to be cautious, and he didn’t want the possibility of the virus to negatively affect his health and his ability to perform for multiple years.

“At the time, I thought it was the best decision,” Niang said Sunday. “I was thinking long term. I just didn’t feel comfortable not knowing enough about the disease. I felt it was the logical thing to do.”

Rejoining the Chiefs for his upcoming rookie season, Niang said it felt great to get back on the field.

Throughout last season, Niang watched the Chiefs and worked out four days each week with Brett Yarris, a behavior scientist and the CEO of BX Movement. Niang spent most of the time with Yarris working as the right tackle, as he improved his hand placement when engaging a pass rusher and developed more counter moves when reacting to the various pass-rushing moves.

Reid was intrigued to see Niang again after the rookie participated in a few practices during training camp before opting out and moving back to his hometown of New Canaan, CT. In observing the three practices this weekend, Reid said it was easy to see that Niang was in better shape.

“He’s a big man that has these beautiful feet,” Reid said of Niang, who is listed at 6-foot-7 and 328 pounds. “I look forward to getting him back in the pads at training camp and moving around and doing what offensive linemen do, the real football part of it. You can tell he’s worked. For right now, he looked tremendous.”

By not having a rookie minicamp last year, Niang was glad to have the chance to have the experience this time, which allowed him to realize his own growth in the past eight months.

“All the plays and all the thinking was way easier this year,” he said. “I could focus more on my technique because I knew my assignments faster having been through it one time.”

Linemen anxious to learn from veterans

With just four offensive linemen participating in the minicamp, Humphrey and Smith found that the biggest value to them might have been learning from offensive line assistant Andy Heck while watching film of the Chiefs’ veteran linemen to better grasp the team’s blocking concepts.

“I’m going to take coaching well,” Humphrey said Friday. “I’m going to work my butt off, making sure I’m doing all of the right things, showing them that I’m a team-first guy and just getting out there and competing.”

A couple weeks before the minicamp, Niang was able to train alongside veterans such as right guard Kyle Long, left tackle Orlando Brown Jr. and left guard Joe Thuney.

Humphrey and Smith are looking forward to their opportunity when the Chiefs have their voluntary workouts.

“A lot of these guys are top-notch guys, very helpful and they’ve played a lot of football, too,” Humphrey said. “Getting to learn how they do things is going to be huge for me. I’m excited to get to work with all of them.”

The draft’s three-day event was a grueling one for Trey Smith, the talented guard from Tennessee who fell until the Chiefs selected him in the sixth round. The biggest reason Smith was still available for the Chiefs with the No. 226 pick is because other teams were concerned about his medical background; he was diagnosed in February 2018 with blood clots in his lungs.

With two weeks to reflect on the draft’s outcome, Smith is grateful the Chiefs selected him. He will likely spend his rookie season polishing his technique by learning from Heck and veterans such as Thuney, Long and right guard Laurent Duvernay-Tardif. Smith also commended the Chiefs’ medical staff, as team physician Mike Monaco and vice president of sports medicine Rick Burkholder did thorough evaluations of him to help convince Veach and Reid to add him to the team.

“I have a certain standard, expectations that I have for myself and for my life,” Smith said. “Not meeting that (in the draft), I was disappointed. But ultimately, God has a plan for me and my life. I think right now I’m at the best place I could actually be at. I’m super excited to be here.”

Another receiver to know

In 2015, Dalton Schoen was a star receiver from Blue Valley Northwest High in Overland Park, Kan., who joined Kansas State’s football team as a walk-on.

“Going to Kansas State was a dream come true,” Schoen said Sunday. “My first goal going there, though, was to get on the field. I was fighting for a job on special teams. I ended up starting as a sophomore, so then, all of a sudden, your goals get a little bit higher.”

So yes, Schoen can see the similarities in his freshman season at K-State in 2016 and his first practices with the Chiefs as a undrafted, second-year free agent. Schoen finished his college career with 92 receptions for 1,569 yards and nine touchdowns. He joined the Los Angeles Chargers last year but didn’t have rookie minicamp and did what he could with a limited amount of repetitions in training camp.

“I felt I had a great camp, and I couldn’t be sad about anything,” Schoen said. “I got cut at the end of it and it just sucked not having preseason games. I never really had a good opportunity to rise above other guys.”

With the Chiefs, Schoen has such an opportunity. Schoen’s first impression was a positive one, too, as he made a highlight-worthy sliding catch during Friday’s practice.

Before the minicamp, Schoen received advice from Byron Pringle, the four-year receiver who was his college teammate. Schoen also did workouts with receiver Gehrig Dieter, a five-year veteran, in Overland Park to be better prepared for the minicamp.

“You’ve got to just have that mindset that you’re a street dog,” Schoen said. “You’re going to show up, you’re going to fight every day, you’re going to do the things most other guys don’t want to do or won’t do. You’ve got to keep fighting until you get the opportunity to prove yourself.”

When the Chiefs hired Reid in January 2013, Schoen was a high school student who remembered the team most for their playoff disappointments. But each year since 2013, Schoen has marveled at Reid’s success in transforming the Chiefs into one of the NFL’s best teams. Although the signing was a minor transaction for the Chiefs in February, the moment was a major one for Schoen, who wants to make his NFL debut with his hometown team.

“I thought the weekend went really well,” Schoen said. “Being from Kansas City, it’s just so cool to have so many people pulling for me. It means a lot. To be here is just a true dream.”

AdolfOliverBush 05-17-2021 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15676606)
Me too. If not him it's going to be Remmers. But the way people are talking about Niang, he's ready to take the starting job.

I will be disappointed if he can't beat out a JAG like Remmers, and a a guy who was retired until recently. It's not exactly an insurmountable obstacle.

htismaqe 05-17-2021 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 15675509)
While scrolling down from some tweets posted here I found this little ditty from a familiar face.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">After Lucas Niang reported to camp vastly overweight here is My Updated <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> starting O-Line for 2021:<br><br>LT Orlando Brown<br>LG Joe Thuney<br>C Creed Humphrey<br>RG Trey Smith<br>RT Mitchell Schwartz / Kyle Long</p>&mdash; Chiefs Insider (@ChiefsInsider) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsInsider/status/1393583232487198723?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 15, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

:D

ROFL

Didn't even get past him saying the starter at RT is a guy that isn't even on the team.

What a moron.

staylor26 05-17-2021 09:24 AM

“Vastly overweight” LMAO

I’m glad Nick Athan thinks he knows what his weight is now, what it was before, and where the Chiefs want it.

RunKC 05-17-2021 09:36 AM

If there wasn’t so much turnover I think Trey Smith could actually start, but we’re looking at new starters at literally every position unless LDT can beat out Long.

OL will take some time to gel like Tampa Bay’s offense last season, but I think they’ll start hitting their groove in October.

I appreciate every snap of this era, but I can’t help to buy think that 2022 could possibly be our best OL ever when Humphrey, Niang and Smith have a year in the league.

Brown Jr-Thuney-Humphrey-Smith-Niang

Obviously they need to prove it, but the potential is there to be a better overall unit than the 2003 OL.

Dunerdr 05-17-2021 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15676649)
If there wasn’t so much turnover I think Trey Smith could actually start, but we’re looking at new starters at literally every position unless LDT can beat out Long.

OL will take some time to gel like Tampa Bay’s offense last season, but I think they’ll start hitting their groove in October.

I appreciate every snap of this era, but I can’t help to buy think that 2022 could possibly be our best OL ever when Humphrey, Niang and Smith have a year in the league.

Brown Jr-Thuney-Humphrey-Smith-Niang

Obviously they need to prove it, but the potential is there to be a better overall unit than the 2003 OL.

I think you are probably right, a year of seeing the competition, a year at this speed and a year in the offense and this could be a tremendous unit.

htismaqe 05-17-2021 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15675747)
I swear you guys never learn. Chiefs specifically said that Powell will be Sammys replacement. He will see action early on and often

No they did not.

The area scout that scouted him said there were "similarities" and that he would "kind of pickup where Sammy left off".

Veach flat out said he brought some different things to the table.

You're reading way too much into something that wasn't really said.

BryanBusby 05-17-2021 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15676617)
https://theathletic.com/2593272/2021...robust-return/

Chiefs Rookie Camp Takeaways
by Nate Taylor

Huh, didn't know they hired Andy Hill.

Oxford 05-17-2021 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15676649)
If there wasn’t so much turnover I think Trey Smith could actually start, but we’re looking at new starters at literally every position unless LDT can beat out Long.

First of all, tie goes to LDT for the RG spot. Actually I think the game plans will have more of a run balance early in the year to help the OL gets its feet under them. Not to say PM the greater wont have (and take) his shots. I doubt we'll see much substitution, AR will pick his 5 and away we go.. Probably a bunch of screens too.

htismaqe 05-17-2021 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 15676689)
Huh, didn't know they hired Andy Hill.

That's better than hiring Benny Hill.


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