That or Blythe at C out of the gate.

Doing what? Playing golf?

I think Humphrey's upside wins that spot as long as he's got a vet on either side of him.

I think OC is more important than RG, which is why I would bet on Humphrey starting and not Smith to begin the season.

By midseason that could change if they're comfortable with Humphrey and Niang's progress and game smarts.

I just don't see Andy rolling with 60% rookies, and the entire center and right side being all rookies.

But I've been wrong a few times this offseason, so who knows.

I'd think he'll want a vet in between the two youngsters though, and I think Niang should beat out Remmers.

Blyth was pretty damn good with the Rams last year. I think he'll take the starters spot (for their season). Smith I think is the one that beats out his vet competition. Was there a major reason that he dropped? Projected for the 2nd round lol. He should ne able to take down the Frenchman -who is a FA anyway. Remmers and Niang should be a good battle but Lucas hasn't played real football in over 2 years....

Brown
Thuney
Blyth
Smith
Remmers

With Niang, and Creed getting mins this season as our relief for the starters. After the season, Blyth leaves (1 yr deal I think?) and Creed becomes our C for the next 12 years.

How exactly did he manage to fracture his kneecap? What was he doing?

Smith slid because of health concerns.

I agree with Meck. Humphrey's upside is off the charts and I think he wins that job. If Remmers wins the RT job, I could see Smith in the mix at RG but I don't think Andy rolls with Humphrey, Niang, AND Smith.

Given the Chiefs’ track record, they let him walk at the end of his rookie deal.

It's so nice that this happens and we get to discuss which player on our roster should replace him rather than what brokedick retread we should be looking into.

TROOF!

Let's hope that that streak finally ends. Though I understand why they did it each time, it's still sucks as both players went on to have very productive times after they left us.

I'm still wary of someone winning the job after not playing football in 2 years. I can see Creed and LDT I guess but I still say the Remmers takes the RT. We'll see though. The C--->RT part of our Oline is by far the most interesting battle that will be going on in camp.

I want nothing to do with LDT at RG. He's been out for a year and now isn't coming to camp (granted I think thats because of border issues?).

I've never been a big fan as a player of his anyway. Seems overrated

Hopefully he didn't injure himself typing this tweet.

Brown-Thuney-Humphrey-Remmers-Niang

Remmers was our week one starting RG last year was he not?

Remmers
Allegretti
Reiter after we re-sign him to a multi year deal
Long with a prosthetic leg
Wylie

Let's go.

Which part?

LMAO

I think he would have made a good CBOTY candidate that would have made a feel good story but I didn't have any expectations of it.


Also I'm glad he can give up reps for the younger guys that need the reps so this is probably a blessing for Chiefs.

The Sammy Watkins Brokedick Stretching Technique.

Brown - Thuney - Humphrey - LDT - Niang

I imagine this is how the line looks at the start of the year. LDT may have been out for a year but there's no way they play 3 rookies on one side of the line and I'd rather LDT be in than Remmers or whoever the **** else is left on the depth chart.

Blythe has a good chancd at the spot, he didn't sit a year and is a better guard than center.

I think Remmers is the best chance at taking the starters spot. Andy likes him and despite what ppl think here he wasn't terrible at RT. Everyone just remembers the Super Bowl and how godawful he was on the left side. He's fine for a year, while Niang learns how to play football again.

I had Long beating out LDT, but he can't stay healthy so I have no idea on that-I'm hoping for Smith though. Center, like I said Blyth was pretty good with the Rams but everyone is in agreement that Creed is awesome. I just feel like they won't start a rookie there if they have a perfectly good vet they can pair with Mahomes. It's title or bust this year, so why leave this stuff in a rookie's hands if you don't have to? Especially on the 2nd most important spot on the offensive line.

Injuries at this time of year?
This isn’t the Broncos message board.

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They didn't draft and sign these ****ers to sit on the bench.

Starting 3 rookies is a recipe for disaster. They didn't sign these FAs to sit on the bench.

FYP

Says you, we'll see. 2-time All Big-12, 2-Time all SEC, and Niang. Plus..........Mahomes.

Kyle Long and injury

no one should be surprised

During Andy's press conference multiple times Reid was asked how Trey Smith's progress going

Smith is gonna be our RG isn’t he. What a ****ing steal!!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">With Kyle long out until at least the regular season&#39;s start (I can confirm <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TomPelissero</a> report, not that he needs it), watch for Trey Smith. <br><br>The Chiefs are very pleased with him, and now Smith has an opening at RG. I&#39;m told he&#39;s looked every bit the steal many thought he was</p>&mdash; Matt Verderame (@MattVerderame) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattVerderame/status/1402995705199751173?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That means absolutely nothing when it comes to the NFL.

Nothing.

Thousands upon thousands of acclaimed guys from every conference, including the SEC, have failed to live up to expectations in the NFL.

The Chiefs face some pretty damn good defenses to start the season so unless there are catastrophic injuries, I have a hard time believing that Andy Reid is going to start three rookies Week 1.

And Mahomes was destroyed in the Super Bowl and struggled with a toe injury well before that game. He needs experienced offensive lineman when facing the Ravens, Chargers and the Redskins defense, not three rookies on the entire right side of the line.

Did we cut this piece of shit yet?

You're probably right. But I think these are going to excel. Time will tell.

People forget how good LDT could be in the seasons he played next to Morse and Fulton. His biggest issue has been availability and nagging injuries.

If he's healthy, he's probably our most reliable RG at least for the near future. And yeah, that's even without having played for a full season. It won't take him long to get back what he had via NFL offseason conditioning.

As it is, he's got a no trade clause and a chunk of dead cap coming back to bite us if we cut him. If at all possible, the team probably wants him to play. Hell, it's possible he was the frontrunner at RG before Long got hurt, too.

^^^
This is the rookie I predict will be our starter. Niang and Creed are gonna sit for a few.

Unfortunately this

I think that if Humphrey starts (and he probably should) and Niang wins the RT job (and he totally should) then you'd want a vet in between them and LDT would get the nod due to familiarity with the team, Mahomes, and the system.

I have zero doubt that Smith will win that spot perhaps even later in the season, certainly in 2022, but I think you want a vet in there that's seen anything a defense might throw at you.

He'll be back when the season starts. But not as a starter. LDT just got his old job back.

LDT at RG is a given.

I haven't kept up on this, but is Smith's health thing 100% cleared? I remember reading that doctors gave him the ok to play football, but was there some wait-and-see period that pro teams may have wanted to conduct to make sure? Or is it one of those, "It was a problem, it got corrected, and now he's good as new" things?

LDT missing voluntary OTA’s is weak considering he is trying to return from an opt-out season.

He should have figured out the international entry logistics in advance if that’s the hold up.

The Chiefs have had a very high level of participation at their voluntary OTA’s overall.

He hasn't had clots since 2018 and takes medication for it no but I don't think there's any way on knowing if they'll suddenly come back or not.

Smith has stated he is on medication and is fine. Good thing other teams blew it out of proportion or we could not have got him.

Thuney said he and Creed are both explosive. :thumb:

I'm a fan of Smith and may the best man win but to spend all those resources and have 2 rookies starting? Idk.

Agreed. Could even be 3 if Niang takes over RT spot.

The most talented line would be

Brown - Thuney - Humphrey - Smith - Niang

But the likely week 1 OL will be

Brown - Thuney - Humphrey - LDT - Remmers

But I have a strong suspicion that Remmers will have a “tight hamstring” (or the equivalent) in the final week of camp and Niang won’t give the job back.

Yep. Cleveland, week 1, is no picnic either with Clowney and Garret.

I'd say at max it'll be the Ravens game he'll get the nod

I feel like it's a tough ask for Niang after two years out and after Remmers did pretty OK. I'd imagine LDT has a better shot at RG after a year because of being a known quantity.

Reckon it'll be Brown - Thuney - Blythe - DLT - Remmers or possibly Brown - Thuney - Humphrey - Blythe - Remmers.

Hope I'm wrong on Niang and even better if Smith beats out LDT and Blythe. Wylie is obviously an absolute no.

I think theres no chance Blythe gets the nod at this point.

Why does everybody feel like it's a tough ask for Niang to start?

widely considered a first round talent, possibly the #1 OT in the draft until his injury (there are a few articles out there from before the injury talking about this), has been working out, working on specific techniques at the team's request, totally rehabbed now and healthy. And a year with the playbook and terminology.

I don't think it's a tough ask at all. I fully expect him to win that RT spot.

Ay this point? It's only OTAs lol

Clowney sucks

Brokedick is brokedick. No surprise here.

This was always gonna be a depth signing, no matter what anyone thought. Long is not a guy you can rely on being your starting guard. His body just isn't built for the long haul.

But he can still provide some quality depth and minutes off the bench to spare other guys and provide some quality play there when healthy (which again, used in a limited role, is possible).

It was always gonna end this way if the Chiefs stuck him there as the starter and left him there. He's a less reliable player than Osemele who we signed and stuck at left guard last year. Those guys are always ticking time bombs . . . . . just a matter of when.

I don't think it's going to be a tough task, relatively speaking.

I think he's facing better competition at RT than Humphrey is at OC. And I think Smith is a backup to start the season.

So really it comes down to Creed and Niang battling for starting spots and I think Niang's competition will be tougher than Humphrey's simply because Humphrey has less competition.

See, I would disagree that Niang has tougher competition.

Blythe has been a decent starting Center. Remmers was less than a dumpster fire at RT. I don't see that as tougher competition.

At any rate, I expect both Humphrey and Niang to win their spots.

I still don't understand how he managed to fracture his kneecap. What was he doing? How did it happen?

I think they brought Blythe in to play RG ostensibly so that's part of my factor.

I also think you're underestimating Andy's proclivity to play "pet players" - guys he's really comfortable with - of which Remmers seems to be one. Remmers started 10 games at RT last season while Niang was sitting at home. I don't think you can discount that.

I don't think that means Niang won't win the job, I think he will. I just think Humphrey is ALREADY the favorite at OC whereas the other guys are still fighting for a spot.

Apparently smith is first man up at RG as of right now

Will that change when LDT comes back?

It will be really interesting to see what they do with it.

I don't think they're going to start 3 guys on the right that have never played an NFL down.

I think Humphrey is a lock at OC. After that, I think Niang has the 2nd-best shot to win a starting job.

Which means Smith is the odd man out there. There's much more depth/competition at RG than at either RT or OC.

Yes. It doesn't mean he's the starter all season, though. If Humphrey wins the starting C job, you can be sure LDT will be the starter Game 1 unless he comes back weak or gets injured in camp. I still think Remmers will start Game 1, but Niang will push him all season.

I think its changed to a lower leg injury now.

Based on everything we're hearing, it may be a situation where there's just no way to keep him from starting, if he's that good.

I don't think LDT gets the RG spot. Look at all they've done bringing in guys. That doesn't lend much confidence.

Once Andy sets his line, thats the starters unless there's an injury.

I keep coming back to this. Unless theres an injury its not moving.

Absolutely correct. The only reason LDT hasn't been released is because it's a wash on the cap to do so. They'll let him come in and see if he's still physically able to do it but I can't see it happening. The guy was already slipping before taking a year off and I can't imagine he had much time to be working out while doing what he was during Covid.

There's a reason they brought in so many interior lineman. LDT not showing up for voluntary workouts says a lot, too. I think the guy is pretty much done with football. If Long had actually stayed healthy I think there's a good chance LDT wouldn't even have made the team. He still might not.

You mean, in OTA's?

LMAO

Some of you people have lost your goddamned minds.

This is a team with Super Bowl aspirations that just had the ever loving shit kicked out of the offensive line just 16 weeks ago. Andy is going to start the season with the best and most experienced guys, which does not include a 6th round guard, when there are at least two other capable starting guards (three, if Niang starts at Right Tackle).

It doesn't matter what the year says on the calendar, every ****ing year, people fall in love with some late round/undrafted free agent and this year, it's Smith. And while he may become a quality and maybe even high quality right guard, the Chiefs are not going to start him next to a rookie center or what's essentially, a rookie right tackle, unless it's due to catastrophic injury.

The Browns, Ravens, Chargers and WFT's defensive line would eat three rookies all game long.

Oh, give me a ****ing break.

LDT is 6 year veteran and Super Bowl champion. The Chiefs aren't going to dump him, nor are they going to eat his salary when they have so little room left.

NFL players miss entire seasons due to injury all the mother****ing time and many come back at the same exact level as before. LDT wasn't injured, he opted out to help others. He's not recovering from a torn ligament or broken or fractured bone. He's a professional football player and as long as he's willing to play this season, he'll be the favorite to start at right guard.

Good grief.

We shall see.

This LDT not being at OTA's narrative has taken a very Lucas Niang opt out turn. If he comes here he cant go home until he quarantines for 2 weeks. More than likely he, a guy who knows the offense i might add, just doesnt want to tack months on to his time away when he can get in shape at home with his loved ones.

The OTAs issue wasn’t my main point.

I’m just not an LDT fan, never have been. He was already slipping before taking a year off and he’s starting at RG, I think it’s a weakness. Certainly not Andrew Wylie level weakness, but I was hoping Long would take the job and run with it.

We’ll see what kind of shape he comes into camp in. My hopes aren’t very high.

Thank you for your always pleasant feedback.

I agree with your overall point 100%, but to be fair, Smith isn’t your average late round pick. He likely would’ve been selected early on day 2 if it weren’t for health concerns.

Also, we're talking about the RG position here. If you're going to start a rookie anywhere on the line, that's the spot to do it.

Doesn't really matter, though. Reid is going to play whoever he's most comfortable with. If Smith goes out and plays at a higher level than anyone else at the position to the point where Andy gives him the job, then great. That means he truly earned it. If not, then so be it. Our starting RG isn't going to make or break the season either way.

No, we shall not see.

You've 'lost your goddamn mind' for thinking a very talented rookie might win a starting job at a relatively low impact position like RG, a spot which at this point has no clear cut starter.

You may as well check yourself into a mental institution. :thumb:

Yeah, because Andy Reid is going to start THREE rookies in 2021.

:facepalm:

JFC, talk about hyperbole.

Even Will Shields didn't last 15 years. Good ****ing grief.

Who said he was going to start 3 rookies? I don't think Niang is starting at RT, personally. Andy is much more likely to start inexperienced lineman at guard than tackle.

Just relax man, this is OTA offensive line discussion. Nobody has a clue what's going to happen. Very few people thought there would be a complete overhaul of the entire line a few months ago either and look what happened there. That was not very Andy Reid-ish.

A lot of things Andy 'would never do' have changed over the past few years. He might surprise us again.

Nobody here has watched any practice.

Humphrey, Smith and Niang starting is possible week 1 and assuming no injuries to those 3 players, it is very likely that they are starting after the bye and through the playoffs.

The best thing about LDT was his physical toughness and playing to the whistle. Smith may be more physical.

I hope I can find some loudmouth who thinks he knows everything to give me big odds on the bet that the Chiefs will not start Humphrey, Smith and Niang in any game during the 2021 season.