This team is coached like the head coach is worried about his kid being put in jail…….oh wait

Dumbass playcalling, oblivious to the fact that your defense isnt stopping anyone, paired with another 4 turnovers is a good recipe for getting your ass completely embarrassed at home under the lights.

For someone who is supposed to be an offensive genius, with the best qb on the planet, Andy sure as hell doesnt have many plays to beat 2 high safeties.

Defense is the worst I have ever seen. Week 5 and we still have no idea where we are supposed to be, or who to cover. Guessing every play, and getting it wrong every time.

Its time for another defensive toilet flush at the end of the year, from Spags on down.

The team is completely undisciplined. I mean, how many times have they lined up offsides on special teams this season?

This team is having problems on both sides of the ball. They are mediocre at best, turn the ball over lights out.

Same. Mods are sensitive tonight lol.

It might be a perfect storm. A lot of distractions. You'd have to think Reid is still thinking about Britt. And his recent health issues. Clark is a distraction. Mathieu feels slighted. Hell, could even argue mahomes is dealing with being a dad. I gotta feel like he's becoming increasingly frustrated with his receivers and their totally inability to take the top of the coverage. Meanwhile injuries in all the wrong places.

And maybe there's a feeling that this is a transition year. A change of the guard.

It may just not be our year. But I also recognize that with a generational coach and qb, you can never count these guys out.

Other teams can get deep with scheme...we can't do it with Hill...there's alot of laziness at Arrowhead.

The team lacks discipline and a hunger to win.
The defense lacks a killing instinct.

We are definitely seeing the results of picking low in the draft every year, trading draft picks, and not hitting on the draft picks we do have.

This isnt a playoff team...
 

The offense has been and continues to be my biggest concern. They are stubborn with running up the gut way too often and in general no creativity. I firmly believe CEH playing time is directly correlated to his draft position and trying to make us forget about Hunt. But it’s really only making it worst as CEH is completely exposed with too much workload.

We really can’t figure out how to impose our will against this common defensive strategy? Is it just Mahomes not making the right reads? He has terrible happy feet in the pocket right now and seems to have way too many predetermined throws. I don’t believe for a second there aren’t plays to be made. He loves getting out of the pocket for big plays but that doesn’t work when the defense is watching you from 25 yards back. You can no longer catch them off guard as much out of the pocket. I believe he is only completing like 50% of passes out of the pocket right now.

Offense was totally lethargic today. They knew the defense was trash and couldn’t make the plays they needed to make. There was absolutely no fire. When the game is going badly, put the ball in the hands of your play makers.!

MEH getting hurt might be a best case scenario for this offense.

Maybe they’ll finally stop trying to make a silk purse from a sow’s ear and stop running the ****ing ball on 1st down like Herm Edwards is in charge.

That goddamn run, short pass, run, punt drive may have been the most infuriating drive I’ve seen in Reid’s tenure. Just completely inexcusable and things predictably fell to hell from that point forward.

They're literally obsessed with proving they didn't blow the Helaire draft pick.

Don’t think we sniff the SB this year, but the two previous teams to make 3 consecutive SBs had a similar problem. Their 3rd team wasn’t as impressive and struggled through the season. The 90s Bills and 10s Pats. The 1992 Bills was a wildcard and made the SB the hard way. 2018 Patriots went 11-5 and simply weren’t as dominant as past Patriot teams in the regular season.

It’s tough to recover from 2 straight SB trips. Everyone has you circled on the schedule, injury, fatigue, arrogance, etc are all factors I’m sure. If we manage to make a 3rd straight SB it’s going to be done the “hard way” as this is our worst team since atleast 2017

I don't quite understand how the defense is so monumentally awful this season. I mean, they weren't that good last year or the year before, but they were a lot better than whatever this shit is. Going into this season with the addition of Bolton, Reed, and a healthy Thornhill, I actually expected them to be a top 10-15 defense this year. How foolish I was to think that...

I don't know what to say. I'm stunned.

They just finished by far the toughest stretch of the season and should frankly be sitting at 4-1. The only way they miss the playoffs is if the turnovers keep piling up, which I don’t see happening.

I think this will look like a much more balanced team by the end of the year. Spags will make changes (unless he wants to lose his job). Less snaps for Sorenson, possibly move Jones back to DT, get Gay involved, more aggressive calls, etc. They’re not going to give up 30 points every game. Things will balance out, especially as they start to play lesser offenses.

How many times did the Patriots have a rough start only to go to the SB?

Even with the way the defense has played, I still view most of the remaining games as should-win games. I don’t see any that should be chalked up as a loss. I don’t think a big winning streak is out of the question at all.

Half of CP jerks off furiously anytime we have an amazing day running the football and move the ball roughly 80% as well as we would on a bad day passing it.

I’ll never understand the fascination with doing things the hard way.

Yeah right from the beginning it was looking like one of those nights. The 3rd down pass that went through Tyreek's hands and hit him in the facemask and then the fumble on the kick return. Not a good way to start the game. The offense has overall been good. They're just making critical mistakes. It's been uncharacteristic. Don't really know what's up.

In defense of this trash defense - the offense was probably worse tonight.

It was laughably inept from about the 3rd play of the game (Robinson holding penalty) forward.

I think EB is calling the plays. They showed Andy right after a play, and it looked like he wasn't calling plays.

That's probably why we're getting those shitty first down runs.

To many of the same guys and the guys they chose to be cornerstones are complacent because they've won and been paid.

It is a playoff team, just need to pull their heads out of their ass.

We've hit a point where teams can literally go..where's Dan throw it there.

They’ve gotten old and complacent rather quickly. Time to change up the roster.

Thornhill showed a LOT of promise before his injury.

What happened?

It really feels like when he blew his ACL and they won the bowl without him they decided **** him Dan started on a SB winner.

I actually don’t think it’s uncharacteristic. This team has anyways been sloppy and prone to self inflicted mistakes. The difference right now is defenses are gladly giving us more chances to do it and we seem to be happy to oblige instead of imposing our will on them. It’s sickening to me how all season long we have not figured out how to bust these defenses and instead just run pointless running plays.

The remaining games are becoming MUST WIN games...

Chris Jones had a huge knock of being a lazy shit in college...amazing he's on a winner and gets paid and disappears.

Which is a fixable problem. In fact, I don’t know why he’s getting so many snaps now.

I'm pretty sure he could give up 5 straight 50+ yard completions and he'd still be playing every snap.

When you pay guys who have both their money and their championship, this happens sometimes. It is why the Patriots were constantly a revolving door during that dynasty apart from a few critical players.

That, therein, lies the problem.

This has been on-going since last season.

Hell, he got burned the hell out in the first half, and who did I see starting in the 3rd quarter?

Yep. The problem is not going to get fixed until the COACHING STAFF DECIDES TO BALL THE **** UP AND PUT HIM ON THE BENCH WHERE HE BELONGS!

Probably need to go 8-4ish. Very doable.

HFA might be unrealistic now, but this team doesn’t seem to play much better at home anyway.

Maybe it takes a game or two like this to force their hand. Spags isn’t going to allow Sorenson to get him fired.

They literally had Willie Gay on ST and not in defense for awhile...this team is dumb.

Get Patrick Mahomes to the playoffs and you have a legitimate chance at winning the Super Bowl. That's the only goal now: give Patrick a chance to put the team on his back when it counts.

Playoffs? Haha. We sunk ourselves on the Mahomes deal. Reid is washed. We aren’t a step or two behind the rest. We are a whole team away. Just pathetic.

Go to sleep bitch

Really hate this guy stole my user name and shit post like this. Mods can you force a change?

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Yeah it's the turnovers that's been uncharacteristic. KC was 8th in the NFL in turnover differential at +6 last season, in 2019 they were tied for 7th at +8, in 2018 they were 6th at +9.

This season so far, they're at -7. The only team that's worse is Jacksonville at -10.

Yeah change it to ButtHeader !!

Teams making us run more plays is leading to turnovers.

The Mahomes contract has not even kicked in yet. That's the scary thing. The roster was pretty much garbage in 2018 even when he was still on the rookie contract. Right now he still has the cap hit of a 5th year option in the rookie contract. Front office has failed pretty bad with draft picks and other acquisitions, especially on defense.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings...rback/cap-hit/

The big question is whether Veach and his staff can start having more luck with draft picks and so forth as they move forward.

I think the nerd squad summed it up. They haven't adjusted to deep safety coverage, Tyrann mattheiu and others in the defensive core have lost a step and the lower end starters are terrible. Honestly it felt like they were on the verge of being exposed a lot last year and were a very unconvincing 14-2. The defense needs to keep chris jones, lose the rest of the core and hopefully get lucky in the draft. For this year they need to win the next 3 in a row (all very winnable) to get the swag back.

Goes way beyond turnovers.. Clearly the D has taken a step back. Veach has done a terrible job acquiring talent on that side of the ball. I know the homers will be mad I said anything negative about the Chiefs but its the truth.

Exactly the case. They have 1 player on the DL worth a shit, and he's playing out of position. Zero LB"s and maybe 2 or 3 secondary guys.

True, but they're going nowhere this year.

Are they, though? I mean, yes, by definition they are winnable, but I’m not comfortable putting a W beside any game on the schedule at this point. Our defense is just so bad, all of these teams have weapons that we can’t match up with.

WFT- both of their back are good pass catchers (Gibson played WR in college) and Scary Terry should feast on our joke of a secondary.

TEN- Can you picture what AJ Brown is going to do on crossing routes? Plus, it seems this is the year to take your revenge pound of flesh from us (Chargers, Bills)

NYG- The closest to a predictable win, but Saquon Barkley (if healthy) could catch 10 balls for 150 against our LBs.

I think we beat the Giants, lose to the Titans and the game against WFT is a toss up that I guess I’ll give to us since we have such an advantage at the QB position. So, 4-4 At basically the halfway point, which makes sense since this looks very much like a 9-8/8-9 football team

It WAS in the hands of the play makers. Mahomes couldn't hit anyone. When he does, the other playmaker (Hill) bobbles it for an INT. Then Mahomes makes an ill timed throw with a DL in his face for another INT. Kelce made a few plays, then got knocked the F out.



So what other playmakers do you have in mind? Hardman? He drops everything that is thrown at him.

This team is cooked, way too many years of mediocre to bad drafting has caught up with us. Our WRs outside of Hill are trash, our Safeties are trash, our LBs are trash, RBs are trash, we have one decent DL who shows up occasionally. Outside of Sneed we haven't drafted a defensive player worth a shit in a long time.

Look at 2018, has not produced anything on the D side:
Rnd 2 Speaks
Rnd 3 Nnandi
Rnd 3 O'Daniel
Rnd 4 Watts
Rnd 6 Tremon Smith
Rnd 6 Kahlil Mckenzie

I thought we drafted McKenzie to play o line? Or maybe he was an o lineman we were converting to defense? Either way, he sucked as does everyone else on that list.

i honestly think this is partly true..its almost like he threw the Super Bowl; and hasnt coached a good game since..

i think the guilt is eating him up . .

Sneed who will forever be remember by the guy that Josh Allen posterized

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBZiPQ-V...g&name=900x900

Hi guy that isn't anywhere near as funny or bright as he thinks he is. I posted the whole 2018 draft buddy, yes there was one OL in there at the end. Good job smart guy!

Holy hell, are you stupid. Do you have any reading comprehension skills? I was trying to remember the reason we drafted Mckenzie. Then, I agreed with your post criticizing the list. I was literally agreeing with you.

Seen a couple of comments about how the Patriots were able to stay competitive, a major difference is that the AFC West is much better than the AFC East. The Chiefs can't coast to six wins in this division. When the Patriots got blown out, things changed.

Look at Aaron Rodgers; the Packers have expected him to carry the team and it's not working.

Deep down, I think we all knew that the backyard football plays weren't going to last. It was just so much fun, now we see how the team responds when their backs are up against the wall.

True. Herbert is already considerably better than any QB not named Brady in the AFC East during all of New England's dynasty years.

I think you were trying to be a smart ass, and didn't like the call out, but whatever.

"are you stupid." Is that a question or a statement?

"reading comprehension" your next sentence...

See what I mean about not being as bright as you think you are?

I don't understand this. QB play is not the the reason the Chiefs are in the basement.

Herbert may be the best QB in the AFC right now. Probably him and Allen.

It was a statement. Had it been a question, I would have included a question mark. That's how questions work, since you need me to spell it out for you. It's been nice chatting, but you're off to my ignore list, so talk to you never.

Do you start all of your statements with the word "are"? Cause, again, seems not too bright. Are you picking up on a theme here yet?

Take your ball and go home.

I was responding to his point that the AFC West as a whole is more difficult currently than the AFC East ever was for Brady. My point is that Herbert is in our division and will be a pain to deal with for the next decade. Brady never had to face a franchise QB in his division. Mark Sanchez? Jay Fiedler? JP Losman? Make sense?

It is interesting as the Chargers have been a laughing stock for so long and they appear to have hit gold with the QB like the Chiefs did with Mahomes. I think with the Patriots - 20 years is a looong time to dominate. There were good teams in the East over that time that they had to beat but not a true franchise QB. But great teams and great QBs rise to the occasion. The Patriots still had to play Manning and Roethlisberger to get out of the AFC so the competition was always fierce in the AFC.

I still don't think the issue for the Chiefs is the Chargers though. The defense is just awful, no talent on that side and the offense has been figured out since the SB. There needs to be adjustments which I am sure there will be.

Now that is a fact that cannot be debated.

Griselda up in this bitch!

"You hatin' on the Bills then you way off...
talkin' shit?
Meet us in the playoffs...

Gameday, you know we goin' off...
got your team captain shakin' at the coin toss...

We say Mafia, that means family to me...
cause we stand with the team, best fans in the league...

We the mafia...Bills Mafia...
We the mafia...Bills Mafia..."

https://youtu.be/eUic3bwEems

https://www.teepublic.com/hoodie/2701818-bills-mafia

The “laughingstock” Chargers had as many 11 wins seasons in the past 4 years as the whole non-Patriot AFCE did from 2001-2019 (the 2010 Jets who knocked out NE in the Divisional)

Nah, just the latest one...wasn't even Allen's best hurdle job. That was in his rookie year where he did the same thing to 6' 5" MLB Anthony Barr of the Vikings

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/KzeG...y_11305264.jpg

https://s3media.247sports.com/Upload...200&height=630

The Chiefs will sneak in, and there isn't a team that will want to face them because they know what our ceiling is things are clicking.

No one is afraid of us any more...I guarantee every other team in the AFC wouldn't mind facing this defense come the playoffs.

12 more games to go. If the Chiefs get in they will have fixed a few things.

Chiefs ranked 31st in T/O. Only JAC turns the ball over more.

Gonna let you in on a little secret: you gonna lose most of your games in f you average 2 T/Os a game, and I don’t care if you’re fielding the ‘85 Bears D.

Patrick and the offense need to take much better care of the ball, period.

I hope we don't make the playoffs and I don't think we will. We need better draft status more than another playoff loss.

"Another" playoff loss. You haven't seen a Chiefs playoff loss in 3 years LMAO

I get your point, but what makes you think they'll nail the draft?

No but we have seen a bunch in the last 50. If you are not the champ you are nothing. Well, we won't be champs, so get better picks.

Nothing. But I think even they can't be so stupid as to not take a DE and a CB in the first 2 rounds.

The Chiefs are an average NFL team this year... maybe not even average...

Barring a miracle turnaround of discipline, commitment, desire and talent, we'll be lucky to hit 9-8 on the win-loss record.