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Easy 6 12-10-2021 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 16001570)
This is the smart person’s answer.

I’ve seen The Road. No ****ing thanks.

Why dontcha come on down to the truck and getcha' selves somethin' to eat

What are you eating?

HemiEd 12-10-2021 05:48 PM

Got some feelers out in Switzerland for a suicide pod. ;)

JakeF 12-10-2021 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 16001541)
Think just about all the people on life supporting meds. My wife can't survive without her seizure medication as well as her COPD shit. I take meds for Heart failure that can't be just quit.

A 1/3rd of the population are dead from stuff like that. Everyone in the hospital, assisted living, needs meds to live are gone. Most people over 70, under 10, probably die too. :(

It won't take long at all for all the existing medications to get used up. Breathing and dialysis machines won't have power. Human beings will quickly drop from the top of the food chain to fighting in the muck with the rest of the critters.

It won't be pretty.

Gotta find a lake away from the cities, so you can fish and hunt for food. You don't want to be in a city full of people who don't know how to take care of themselves without Grubhub and Uber. People can be nasty in the best of times. They will turn to murder, theft and other disgusting things in a heartbeat when they get cold and hungry.

JakeF 12-10-2021 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 16001555)
I assumed he was alluding that he's just shoot people and take what he needed. Hence, use lead bullets to take instead of using gold to buy. :shrug:

:thumb:

ToxSocks 12-10-2021 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TinyEvel (Post 16001406)
When we lived in Hollywood Hills the plan was to have two enduro bikes and backpacks with the necessary things to get out of the LA area in case of massive earthquake or a dirty bomb, etc.

$30K worth of motorcycles in your disaster preparedness kit? That's some mother****in' dedication.

Delano 12-10-2021 05:57 PM

People that roleplay this shit are weird as hell.
Same types that jerk off to the idea of Texas seceding.

ToxSocks 12-10-2021 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 16001537)
It cracks me up people saying ammo. You gonna shoot someone to take their shit???

Guns and ammo are for self defense and harvesting meat.

Shoot someone and harvest them for their meat, dude. C'mon now. Think.

JakeF 12-10-2021 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16001550)
No mention of masks or hand sanitizer smh

You'll see social distancing taken to an entirely new level, though.

Rainbarrel 12-10-2021 06:35 PM

The sound of a gun or smell of gun powder would not be a deterrent. It would draw them in like midnight vultures. Give me a crossbow and traps.

BryanBusby 12-10-2021 06:40 PM

With this massive 17 inch penis I will just bang broads for all of my supplies. Suckers.

Katie 12-10-2021 07:04 PM

Also, rechargeable batteries with solar powered charger.

Hog's Gone Fishin 12-10-2021 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Katie (Post 16001618)
Also, rechargeable batteries with solar powered charger.

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Yeah, both those aren't long term solutions. Gonna have to live off the land.

displacedinMN 12-10-2021 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 16001572)
Why dontcha come on down to the truck and getcha' selves somethin' to eat

What are you eating?

Who's coming to dinner?
Why you are!

https://decadescdn.decades.com/Di3LI...erve%20man.jpg

Its not a manual, its a cookbook

penguinz 12-10-2021 07:45 PM

5 Gallons of Covid vax so I can get through 2 years worth of boosters! 😜

Rausch 12-10-2021 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 16001627)
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Yeah, both those aren't long term solutions. Gonna have to live off the land.

Even if every human in this country knew how to farm and what to hunt there isn't enough. Damn near every wild animal around would be gone in a few months. The fish would be gone first because damn near any starving idiot can fish...

neech 12-10-2021 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 16001636)

That’s one of my favorite episodes.

Bwana 12-10-2021 07:58 PM

I'm good.

neech 12-10-2021 08:04 PM

I’ve watched enough naked and afraid episodes where I think I can handle myself.

Stryker 12-10-2021 08:31 PM

Fire arms? or the whole ordeal? I have flashlights out the ass, I have 4 fully filled propane tanks, I have a freezer filled with groceries. I have the following weapons supply...

I have a 1000 rounds of AR ammo, 75 rounds of .44 ammunition, 150 rounds of G22 ammo and 150 rounds of 12 gauge shot gun ammo. Do I pass the test?

Easy 6 12-10-2021 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by neech (Post 16001657)
I’ve watched enough naked and afraid episodes where I think I can handle myself.

LMAO

ThaVirus 12-10-2021 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 16001570)
This is the smart person’s answer.



I’ve seen The Road. No ****ing thanks.


The book is pretty similar to the movie.. so bleak.

I'm scared shitless of death/dying so pretty much any apocalypse, I'd fight tooth and nail to survive. Not that kind, though. Any sort of The Road, Fallout, Interstellar, Fury Road, Book of Eli type of situation where we can't even grow crops anymore or water is hard to come by? Kill me immediately, please.

Stewie 12-10-2021 11:25 PM

Enough food for at least 2 years and a stellar water purification system that turns crappy water into wine.

Hog's Gone Fishin 12-11-2021 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 16001696)
Fire arms? or the whole ordeal? I have flashlights out the ass, I have 4 fully filled propane tanks, I have a freezer filled with groceries. I have the following weapons supply...

I have a 1000 rounds of AR ammo, 75 rounds of .44 ammunition, 150 rounds of G22 ammo and 150 rounds of 12 gauge shot gun ammo. Do I pass the test?

n00b ROFL

Rainbarrel 12-11-2021 06:38 AM

Those who hoard and do not share. Will be overpowered by the thousands to one who did not. The only thing we have to lose is our discomfort. Thanks in advance.

LiveSteam 12-11-2021 10:31 AM

I have a stash of Hustler and OUI mags
They should cum in handy, in a SHTF situation

Bearcat 12-11-2021 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 16001696)
Fire arms? or the whole ordeal? I have flashlights out the ass, I have 4 fully filled propane tanks, I have a freezer filled with groceries. I have the following weapons supply...

I have a 1000 rounds of AR ammo, 75 rounds of .44 ammunition, 150 rounds of G22 ammo and 150 rounds of 12 gauge shot gun ammo. Do I pass the test?

Seems like more than enough to see the Chiefs pick in the top 10 of next year's draft. You pass!

Buehler445 12-11-2021 11:35 AM

Yeah, I'm not bugging out into the wild. That shit ain't happening. Not here.

If shit gets real in town, I'm loading the kids up and heading to the farm, generators enough to make life happen and probably the most defensible place I can get to, plus all the tools I need.

Society folds up, I'm rustling some cows from a feedyard and hoping for the best. But I'm staying right here until some semblance of a society comes back online.

If society folds up for the long term most people are epic ****ed. If I can defend my place, I can last longer than most.

Hog's Gone Fishin 12-11-2021 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 16001647)
Even if every human in this country knew how to farm and what to hunt there isn't enough. Damn near every wild animal around would be gone in a few months. The fish would be gone first because damn near any starving idiot can fish...

Nah, I don't agree with this . A large lake or really any lake would be hard to fish out but most of the city folks would die off quickly anyway so there wouldn't be that much pressure on fishing. How many city folks even have a fishing pole?? City folks will burn all their gas driving around town looking for supplies. Never even make it to a lake.

scho63 12-11-2021 02:03 PM

200 cigars, a couple gallons of booze and a fleshlight with extra batteries.

I'm all set.

kstater 12-11-2021 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 16001147)
You see, this approach will become the norm of people that have nothing! When people are desperate, they will retort to whatever means they can to survive.

People who have planned will become a target for people who do not have.


Exactly. Why waste the ammo defending, when you can use less being on the offensive.

Easy 6 12-11-2021 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 16002314)
Exactly. Why waste the ammo defending, when you can use less being on the offensive.

You're prolly just joking, but if not thats a scuzzy attitude to have... also keep in mind that people who prepare are likely to have you badly outgunned

frozenchief 12-11-2021 02:20 PM

An excellent book about the shit hitting the fan is One Second After, by William Forstchen. His book describes life after an EMP event. In his book, the EMP was from a deliberate attack. While that is a logical possibility, I believe that is highly unlikely. We are far more likely to get an EMP from a Carrington event. Foratchen’s book, then, serves as a warning of what to consider.

One recent article on geological evidence showing that Carrington events are more common and potentially far larger than previously thought:

https://astronomy.com/news/2021/09/u...flares-can-get

neech 12-11-2021 02:52 PM

There was a show on TV called Doomsday Preppers that showed people who are stockpiling food, water, weapons and whatever else they think is necessary in the event basic services should fail and society turns chaotic.
Most all of them lived way out in the sticks well away from the city.

Then they would give a grade on how well they were prepared at the end of the show.

It taught me that I as well as most people who think they are prepared for the worst woefully fall short of where they should be.

MTG#10 12-11-2021 02:57 PM

**** this thread. Now I'm paranoid and about to order thousands of dollars worth of equipment/supplies.

frozenchief 12-11-2021 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by neech (Post 16002388)
There was a show on TV called Doomsday Preppers that showed people who are stockpiling food, water, weapons and whatever else they think is necessary in the event basic services should fail and society turns chaotic.
Most all of them lived way out in the sticks well away from the city.

Then they would give a grade on how well they were prepared at the end of the show.

It taught me that I as well as most people who think they are prepared for the worst woefully fall short of where they should be.

This is absolutely true. I’m not really a prepper, although I have some supplies to last a few weeks in the event of n earthquake. However, I know that if the grid goes down for whatever reason, life would get very bad very quickly. My state is far enough away that it has its own grid so a failure in NY that brings down the grid in the northeast would not affect me, which is good. But a massive Carrington event in today’s world? I would expect de-population of about 60+% in this country. Oddly, the less technologically reliant a country or group is, the greater their survivability percentage.

neech 12-11-2021 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by frozenchief (Post 16002424)
This is absolutely true. I’m not really a prepper, although I have some supplies to last a few weeks in the event of n earthquake. However, I know that if the grid goes down for whatever reason, life would get very bad very quickly. My state is far enough away that it has its own grid so a failure in NY that brings down the grid in the northeast would not affect me, which is good. But a massive Carrington event in today’s world? I would expect de-population of about 60+% in this country. Oddly, the less technologically reliant a country or group is, the greater their survivability percentage.

I read all three of John Matherson books that you mentioned earlier, but yeah I'm about as prepared as you and figure if SHTF I'm about as screwed as everyone else in the country. It will be Neechs last stand at my household I'm afraid.

trndobrd 12-11-2021 04:03 PM

Got nothing here. Best if you just keep moving on.

Easy 6 12-11-2021 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by neech (Post 16002388)
There was a show on TV called Doomsday Preppers that showed people who are stockpiling food, water, weapons and whatever else they think is necessary in the event basic services should fail and society turns chaotic.
Most all of them lived way out in the sticks well away from the city.

Then they would give a grade on how well they were prepared at the end of the show.

It taught me that I as well as most people who think they are prepared for the worst woefully fall short of where they should be.

I remember that show on National Geographic, watched maybe 5-6 of them

And you're right, most people (including me) really aren't as prepared for an emergency as they'd like to think... particularly the food aspect of it

I've got enough rice, beans and canned goods for maybe two months tops

Easy 6 12-11-2021 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by trndobrd (Post 16002482)
Got nothing here. Best if you just keep moving on.

IIRC you're a retired KC detective, so we know you're armed and well trained... don't worry about me!

frozenchief 12-11-2021 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by neech (Post 16002449)
I read all three of John Matherson books that you mentioned earlier, but yeah I'm about as prepared as you and figure if SHTF I'm about as screwed as everyone else in the country. It will be Neechs last stand at my household I'm afraid.

That’s kind of my thinking. To adequately prepare for something like a world-wide Carrington Event would literally be life-consuming. You have to measure the risk of harm and the magnitude of harm and while the magnitude would be tremendous, the risk of a massive EMP doesn’t appear to justify the preparation necessary unless I was already massively wealthy.

An earthquake, though, is much more probable where I am. I figure if there’s another bad earthquake (and I’ve lived through a 7.2, which was terrifying, but it wasn’t the 9.1 of the Good Friday earthquake), it would have massive disruptions here but I think supply chains and transportation would be running, even if on a limited schedule, within 2-3 weeks tops. So preparing for that possibility does not require nearly the commitment as it does to prepare for a total grid-down SHTF moment.

trndobrd 12-11-2021 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 16002494)
IIRC you're a retired KC detective, so we know you're armed and well trained... don't worry about me!

More a comment on the people who go on TV and advertise what they have to the world. Seems like a poor choice.

You may be thinking of someone else. Not a LEO and, sadly, not retired yet.

Chief Pagan 12-11-2021 06:27 PM

I don't see the point of having six months supply (unless you expect to share with your community/extended family). And I don't think a couple of guns would save you from an the organized gangs and warlords that would exists after a collapse. Although owning a bunch of guns/ammo might help you join/be part of said gangs/warlords.


But if you have the means/space, I think it is worth being self-sufficient for a little while. That deep freeze that knocked Texas out is a good example.

I have enough food/water on hand that I would be absolutely fine not leaving my house for two to three weeks minimum. I have one liter bottles for drinking water inside the house where it stays climate controlled and I replace this every few years when I think about it. I have another 20 gallons out in the garage that could be used for washing.

I also have a portable propane generator and I keep enough propane on hand to run it for 40~50 hours. It uses the same 20 lb tanks as my grill, so the amount of propane I have varies a bit.

I have a mini split just for my bedroom (in addition to a whole house AC). The generator can run the mini split, the fridge in my kitchen, and a couple of lights, my computer, and a few other odds and ends.

The generator is mostly if I get hit by a rolling black out on a 100+ degree day I can keep my bedroom air conditioned. But if I lost all utilities, I could run the AC and fridge a few hours at a time, and maybe make the propane last a week or so.

I try not to let the fuel tank on vehicle get below 1/3 empty before refilling it, but this one is hard to stick to.

Middle class people with a garage/basement ought to be a little more prepared to survive a few days, in my opinion.

No, you don't need to spend thousands of dollars and be prepared to go six months. The generator is a luxury mostly because my heat tolerance is poor.

If you live somewhere where evacuations are reasonably plausible (fires/hurricanes/flood/etc.) have a plan for that.

But good grief, at least keep a weeks worth of water and food (if you have the space). Stash some led flashlights/lanterns around.


If you live in a tiny apartment, or are struggling to put food on the table... Yea, I get it.

R8RFAN 12-11-2021 07:02 PM

Here's my thoughts.
After about 3 days of no food or electricity gangs will be forming going house to house to take anything you have. But you say, I have guns, well they will have guns too and you have to sleep sometime so when you do they will just burn your barn down like in the Westerns. You best chance will be to head to the forest and live off the land.

KsBubba 12-11-2021 09:18 PM

A few thoughts.

#1 Keep at least a half tank of gas in your car. There is a good chance 150 miles in one direction will be a better place if it's going to be more than a week. Make friends with a few Bubbas who live in the rural areas. A few of us will not miss a lick.

#2 Don't wait around if it looks bad.

#3 Considering buying a 50lb bag of beans every 3 months. Donate the old bag to a food bank.

#4 I do keep a couple hundred dollars in old silver coins for peace of mind but...

#5 I have stockpiled a lot of salt in a few different places. The Romans paid soldiers in salt for a reason. Trading stock

MTG#10 12-24-2021 09:38 AM

So because of this damn thread I've spent over $500 on freeze dried meal buckets that are good up to 25 years. I have enough to feed my house plus all of my closest family for well over a year. My next step is buying some stackable drinking water storage tanks.

Any tips on water prep for long term storage? I have an RO filter but it'd take forever to fill 100 gallons and would waste a ton of water in the process. I was thinking straight from the tap would be the best bet, as the water quality in my town is pretty good. But not sure if I should add a little extra chlorine or anything to it?

Also on a semi-related note, I have fairly large a tornado shelter in my basement where I want to keep all of this but its full of beer-making supplies. If anyone is into, or is thinking about getting into homebrewing let me know, I'll make you a great deal to get rid of all this stuff.

trndobrd 12-24-2021 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 16031530)
So because of this damn thread I've spent over $500 on freeze dried meal buckets that are good up to 25 years. I have enough to feed my house plus all of my closest family for well over a year. My next step is buying some stackable drinking water storage tanks.

Any tips on water prep for long term storage? I have an RO filter but it'd take forever to fill 100 gallons and would waste a ton of water in the process. I was thinking straight from the tap would be the best bet, as the water quality in my town is pretty good. But not sure if I should add a little extra chlorine or anything to it?

Also on a semi-related note, I have fairly large a tornado shelter in my basement where I want to keep all of this but its full of beer-making supplies. If anyone is into, or is thinking about getting into homebrewing let me know, I'll make you a great deal to get rid of all this stuff.

Why not get a ceramic filter kit w/ 5 gallon buckets? After sitting unused in the basement for years, it took about 20 minutes to assemble and filtered plenty of water during a recent boil warning.

Bearcat 12-24-2021 11:06 AM

A live look inside the room full of people who believe a word of that.

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/5e/d2/be/5...e1a36fb040.jpg

trndobrd 12-24-2021 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16031656)
A live look inside the room full of people who believe a word of that.

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/5e/d2/be/5...e1a36fb040.jpg

:spock:

George Liquor 12-24-2021 11:24 AM

I've got like 3 cases of MREs and some water.

But those things give me gas that will peel paint off the walls so I don't want to "survive" on em for that long

MTG#10 12-24-2021 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by trndobrd (Post 16031651)
Why not get a ceramic filter kit w/ 5 gallon buckets? After sitting unused in the basement for years, it took about 20 minutes to assemble and filtered plenty of water during a recent boil warning.

Unfamiliar with that but will look into it. Only thing that worries me about relying solely on filtration is viruses/pathogens that may slip through.

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16031656)
A live look inside the room full of people who believe a word of that.

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/5e/d2/be/5...e1a36fb040.jpg

Assuming this is directed at me, what's so hard to believe? Walmart.com has had great deals on Ready Wise food kits lately and I stocked the hell up with multiple orders. Would you like to see a picture of my storm shelter/homebrew storage area?

trndobrd 12-24-2021 11:35 AM

Not the brand I have, but similar concept. https://www.amazon.com/Gravity-Purif.../dp/B00XTJJIF2

Chief Pagan 12-24-2021 12:51 PM

Plastic one gallon bottles from the grocery store cost around a dollar or so and will last for years if you keep them out of the light and out of the heat.

So if you have a basement that works great or even stashed around the house if you usually air condition.

If you leave them in a hot garage, I'm not sure. Probably not ideal because the plastic might leech into the water. But if one time in 30 years you drank a few liters, it probably won't be the thing that gives you cancer.

They don't cost that much to replace every 5 or 10 years.

Chief Pagan 12-24-2021 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 16031530)

Any tips on water prep for long term storage? I have an RO filter but it'd take forever to fill 100 gallons and would waste a ton of water in the process. I was thinking straight from the tap would be the best bet, as the water quality in my town is pretty good. But not sure if I should add a little extra chlorine or anything to it?

From what I read online, the best strategy for tap water storage was frequent replacement. It wasn't as reliable long term as the sealed plastic bottles.

But I think it would be hard to stick to a schedule of replacing frequently.

I suppose extra chlorine would help but don't go overboard and make it undrinkable. Or just filtering it if/when you ever needed it.

100 gallons sounds like a lot. Maybe keep 15 gallons of plastic bottles on hand and then switch to the tap water if that ran out.

Reroka 12-24-2021 01:21 PM

I have 10k rounds of 9mm ammo, 10k rounds of 40 cal ammo and 10k rounds for my 223.
2 months of food, enough water to fill a large swimming pool.

neech 12-24-2021 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Reroka (Post 16031893)
I have 10k rounds of 9mm ammo, 10k rounds of 40 cal ammo and 10k rounds for my 223.
2 months of food, enough water to fill a large swimming pool.

What do you do after your 2 months worth of food runs out?


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